On Fri, Apr 08, 2022 at 08:52:26PM +0100, Brian wrote:
[...]
> You didn't like my bus analogy, did you?
I did like it. Nevertheless, I thought something's missing:
> What makes you think that knowing a bus number and destination
> provudes information for where it departs from?
>
> What makes y
On 2022-04-08 17:10, Greg Wooledge wrote:
If you don't want to read the background information, the question is:
How is one *supposed* to figure out which autodetected printer is the
correct one, apart from trial and error?
I think you'd set up a printer on your machine with
'ipp://ip-address
On Tue, 5 Apr 2022 davidson wrote:
On Mon, 4 Apr 2022 Juan R.D. Silva wrote:
On 2022-04-04 5:17 a.m., davidson wrote:
On Sun, 3 Apr 2022 Juan R.D. Silva wrote:
Hi folks,
Debian 11 on Dell M4800 Mobile Workstation with Nvidia Quadro K2100M
card.
I've been using the system with full (100%) s
On Wed 06 Apr 2022 at 14:58:03 (-0400), Juan R.D. Silva wrote:
> On 2022-04-05 7:06 p.m., David Wright wrote:
> > On Mon 04 Apr 2022 at 15:42:46 (-0400), Juan R.D. Silva wrote:
> > > On 2022-04-04 5:17 a.m., davidson wrote:
> > > > On Sun, 3 Apr 2022 Juan R.D. Silva wrote:
> > [ … ]
> > > > > Sorry
On Fri 08 Apr 2022 at 20:43:40 (+0100), Darac Marjal wrote:
> On 08/04/2022 20:27, David Wright wrote:
> > On Fri 08 Apr 2022 at 07:18:28 (+0100), Tixy wrote:
> > > On Thu, 2022-04-07 at 09:40 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
> > > > I need a *HTML* copy of "Installation Guide for 64-bit PC (amd64)" fo
On Fri 08 Apr 2022 at 23:44:29 (+0100), Brian wrote:
> On Fri 08 Apr 2022 at 16:20:54 -0400, The Wanderer wrote:
> > What I understood Greg as asking about is how to get CUPS to *tell* you
> > what the IP address it knows about for a given printer object is. That
> > doesn't seem to be an unreason
(This is probably both overly long and overly repetitive, among possibly
other undesirable things, but I'm running short on time.)
On 2022-04-08 at 18:44, Brian wrote:
> On Fri 08 Apr 2022 at 16:20:54 -0400, The Wanderer wrote:
>
>> On 2022-04-08 at 15:52, Brian wrote:
>> > You didn't like my
On Sat, Apr 09, 2022 at 12:05:01AM +0100, Brian wrote:
> On Fri 08 Apr 2022 at 21:07:18 +0100, Tixy wrote:
> > I wasn't expecting a different IP address but, given Greg's experience,
>
> I think we have a differnet understanding of what The OP's experience
> was.
I knew the printer's IP address b
On Fri 08 Apr 2022 at 21:07:18 +0100, Tixy wrote:
> On Fri, 2022-04-08 at 20:18 +0100, Brian wrote:
> > On Fri 08 Apr 2022 at 17:59:10 +0100, Tixy wrote:
> >
> > > On Fri, 2022-04-08 at 12:10 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > > > Unfortunately, I was not able to find ANY way to determine the IP
> >
On Fri 08 Apr 2022 at 16:20:54 -0400, The Wanderer wrote:
> On 2022-04-08 at 15:52, Brian wrote:
>
> > On Fri 08 Apr 2022 at 15:22:58 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> >
> >> On Fri, Apr 08, 2022 at 08:08:22PM +0100, Brian wrote:
>
> >>> Now contact you highly paid sys admins to ask them to add a
>
On Fri, 8 Apr 2022 12:19:10 -0400
Cindy Sue Causey wrote:
> Just poking my nose in to say that syslog might be an example of that.
> That's speaking from the annoying firsthand experience of having
> something like /var/log/syslog loaded in the Mousepad text editor. It
> will keep announcing that
On Fri, Apr 08, 2022 at 08:52:26PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> You didn't like my bus analogy, did you?
I don't think it's a very good analogy for this situation.
> What makes you think that knowing an IP address tells you where
> any machine of any description is located?
Because the device is (was)
On 2022-04-08 at 15:52, Brian wrote:
> On Fri 08 Apr 2022 at 15:22:58 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Apr 08, 2022 at 08:08:22PM +0100, Brian wrote:
>>> Now contact you highly paid sys admins to ask them to add a
>>> "Location" field to whatever the server/printer is advertising.
>>
>>
On Fri, 2022-04-08 at 20:18 +0100, Brian wrote:
> On Fri 08 Apr 2022 at 17:59:10 +0100, Tixy wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 2022-04-08 at 12:10 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > > Unfortunately, I was not able to find ANY way to determine the IP
> > > addresses of the autodetected printers that were presented
On Fri, Apr 08, 2022 at 08:24:00PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> avahi-browse -rt _ipp._tcp
>
> is better.
That one actually works. It completes in under 1 second, and it
includes IP addresses in its output.
Out of curiosity, I tried omitting the -r option, to try to figure out
what "resolve" means i
On 08/04/2022 20:27, David Wright wrote:
On Fri 08 Apr 2022 at 07:18:28 (+0100), Tixy wrote:
On Thu, 2022-04-07 at 09:40 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
I need a *HTML* copy of "Installation Guide for 64-bit PC (amd64)" for
*OFFLINE* use.
The HTML links on [https://www.debian.org/releases/stable
On Fri 08 Apr 2022 at 15:22:58 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 08, 2022 at 08:08:22PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> > On Fri 08 Apr 2022 at 12:10:37 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > > How is one *supposed* to figure out which autodetected printer is the
> > > correct one, apart from trial and err
On Fri 08 Apr 2022 at 15:30:13 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 08, 2022 at 08:28:31PM +0200, didier gaumet wrote:
> > CLI:
> >
> > # avahi-browse -r _print-caps._tcp
> > (from the avahi-utils package)
>
> I tried this with and without the -r (which according to the man page
> asks to
On Fri 08 Apr 2022 at 15:22:58 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 08, 2022 at 08:08:22PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> > On Fri 08 Apr 2022 at 12:10:37 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > > How is one *supposed* to figure out which autodetected printer is the
> > > correct one, apart from trial and er
On 4/8/22 10:22, Greg Wooledge wrote:
On Fri, Apr 08, 2022 at 06:03:47PM +0100, Tixy wrote:
On Fri, 2022-04-08 at 17:59 +0100, Tixy wrote:
On Fri, 2022-04-08 at 12:10 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
Unfortunately, I was not able to find ANY way to determine the IP
addresses of the autodetected pri
On Fri, Apr 08, 2022 at 08:28:31PM +0200, didier gaumet wrote:
> CLI:
>
> # avahi-browse -r _print-caps._tcp
> (from the avahi-utils package)
I tried this with and without the -r (which according to the man page
asks to "resolve services", but it doesn't say what kind of resolution
it's doing).
On Fri 08 Apr 2022 at 07:18:28 (+0100), Tixy wrote:
> On Thu, 2022-04-07 at 09:40 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
> > I need a *HTML* copy of "Installation Guide for 64-bit PC (amd64)" for
> > *OFFLINE* use.
> >
> > The HTML links on [https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual]
> > lead *
On Fri 08 Apr 2022 at 08:17:14 (-0400), gene heskett wrote:
> On Friday, 8 April 2022 07:32:00 EDT Curt wrote:
> > On 2022-04-08, David Wright wrote:
> > >> Apple: Pages documents include a "last printed" property which gets
> > >> updated when the doc is printed - which suggests there's no option
On Fri 08 Apr 2022 at 20:08:22 (+0100), Brian wrote:
> On Fri 08 Apr 2022 at 12:10:37 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > How is one *supposed* to figure out which autodetected printer is the
> > correct one, apart from trial and error?
>
> Fancy an analogy?
>
> My local bus intercange has display s
On Fri 08 Apr 2022 at 20:28:31 +0200, didier gaumet wrote:
> Hello Greg,
>
> Perhaps, try:
>
> GUI:
>
> avahi-discover from the avahi-discover package presents a network tree:
> you can find the IP adresses of the printers
>
> CLI:
>
> # avahi-browse -r _print-caps._tcp
> (from the avahi-uti
On Fri, Apr 08, 2022 at 08:08:22PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> On Fri 08 Apr 2022 at 12:10:37 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > How is one *supposed* to figure out which autodetected printer is the
> > correct one, apart from trial and error?
> Now contact you highly paid sys admins to ask them to add a "
On Fri 08 Apr 2022 at 17:59:10 +0100, Tixy wrote:
> On Fri, 2022-04-08 at 12:10 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > Unfortunately, I was not able to find ANY way to determine the IP
> > addresses of the autodetected printers that were presented to me.
>
> If I go to http://localhost:631/printers/ and
On Fri 08 Apr 2022 at 12:10:37 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
[Misconceptions snipped. It would take too long to comment on and refute
every single one of them, interesting though they may be.]
> After all this, I have two final comments:
>
> 1) To whomever received two surprise printer test pages:
Hello Greg,
Perhaps, try:
GUI:
avahi-discover from the avahi-discover package presents a network tree:
you can find the IP adresses of the printers
CLI:
# avahi-browse -r _print-caps._tcp
(from the avahi-utils package)
In my case it's sufficient to detect my network printer but I do not
know
On Fri, Apr 08, 2022 at 12:19:10PM -0400, Cindy Sue Causey wrote:
[...]
> Just poking my nose in to say that syslog might be an example of that.
> That's speaking from the annoying firsthand experience of having
> something like /var/log/syslog loaded in the Mousepad text editor. It
> will keep a
On Fri, Apr 08, 2022 at 06:03:47PM +0100, Tixy wrote:
> On Fri, 2022-04-08 at 17:59 +0100, Tixy wrote:
> > On Fri, 2022-04-08 at 12:10 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > > Unfortunately, I was not able to find ANY way to determine the IP
> > > addresses of the autodetected printers that were presented
On Fri, 2022-04-08 at 17:59 +0100, Tixy wrote:
> On Fri, 2022-04-08 at 12:10 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > Unfortunately, I was not able to find ANY way to determine the IP
> > addresses of the autodetected printers that were presented to me.
>
> If I go to http://localhost:631/printers/
I shou
On Fri, 2022-04-08 at 12:10 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> Unfortunately, I was not able to find ANY way to determine the IP
> addresses of the autodetected printers that were presented to me.
If I go to http://localhost:631/printers/ and click on my printer it
shows amongst other information:
Con
On 2022-04-08, Cindy Sue Causey wrote:
>>
>> LO: MS Word does it, so LO does it / because fields in the document may be
>> automatically updated prior to printing
>
> Just poking my nose in to say that syslog might be an example of that.
> That's speaking from the annoying firsthand experience of
On 4/7/22, Gareth Evans wrote:
> On Thu 7 Apr 2022, at 09:58, Jonathan Dowland
> wrote:
>> On Sat, Apr 02, 2022 at 07:08:11PM +0100, Brad Rogers wrote:
>>>Tools menu/Options - General; 'Printing sets "document modified" status'
>>
>
>> Does anyone have any insight into why this is an option? Mor
If you don't want to read the background information, the question is:
How is one *supposed* to figure out which autodetected printer is the
correct one, apart from trial and error?
==
Today I had to print something at work
On 08.04.2022 14:23, didier gaumet wrote:
Le vendredi 08 avril 2022 à 13:48 +0500, Alexander V. Makartsev a
écrit :
I've had "virtio-win-guest-tools" installed inside Win10 guest
does it appear in the list of the Windows installed applications list
(Windows parameters menu)?
I just verified: th
On Friday, 8 April 2022 07:32:00 EDT Curt wrote:
> On 2022-04-08, David Wright wrote:
> >> Apple: Pages documents include a "last printed" property which gets
> >> updated when the doc is printed - which suggests there's no option
> >> in that case.
> >>
> >> Not sure of the accuracy of either re
On 2022-04-08, David Wright wrote:
>>
>> Apple: Pages documents include a "last printed" property which gets updated
>> when the doc is printed - which suggests there's no option in that case.
>>
>> Not sure of the accuracy of either report...
>
> … nor of my memory.
>
> I was never a wysiwy(d)
Le vendredi 08 avril 2022 à 13:48 +0500, Alexander V. Makartsev a
écrit :
>
> I've had "virtio-win-guest-tools" installed inside Win10 guest
does it appear in the list of the Windows installed applications list
(Windows parameters menu)?
I just verified: that's the only thing I installed in th
On 08.04.2022 13:19, didier gaumet wrote:
Hello,
RHEL/Fedora provide guest (virtio) drivers and agents. I have installed
the whole bunch (ISO) into a Win10 KVM guest and the copy/paste is
working properly but I think what is required here is only the Spîce
guest agent.
https://github.com/virtio-
Le jeudi 07 avril 2022 à 18:18 -0500, Dennis Wicks a écrit :
> It doesn't work for me and the suggested solutions I have
> found are referring to a linux guest.
>
> TIA for pointers, suggestions, solutions!
> Denniis
>
>
Hello,
RHEL/Fedora provide guest (virtio) drivers and agents. I have i
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