Re: 5.15 kernel just won't do on Intel Rocket Lake...

2022-02-15 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
Hi, > I just wrote about two places where Debian kernel packages with > "trunk" in their names are visible. But I do not know what those > packages are. If you can explain what those packages are, > what their life cycle is, and why they are named "trunk", that > would be helpful. > I don't see

cinnamon - slow boot up times

2022-02-15 Thread Thomas Anderson
Hello, I have Bullseye installed on an SSD, it boots up fast as expected up until the login screen. I enter my login credentials...then, queue the music...just a darker screen (not pitch black, flickering, or anything bad) 42 seconds later I get my desktop. I do have a Cinnamon desktop env

Re: Uninstalling a package removes other essential packages: What is the best course of action?

2022-02-15 Thread The Wanderer
On 2022-02-15 at 12:56, Stella Ashburne wrote: > Hello The Wanderer >> Do you have any reason to believe that it might? As compared to any >> other random library that Debian provides. > > No, I don't have the technical knowledge to audit libthai. My point > is that why pull in non-English depe

Re: Misremembered

2022-02-15 Thread gene heskett
On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 5:59:37 PM EST Stefan Monnier wrote: > > Yes, "infected" floppy disks were a thing. There really wasn't any > > way to make money off viruses, though. > > I think McAffe would disagree. > Sorry, but that spammer is so disagreable that he would yell insults at the g

[Sid] InfiniBand

2022-02-15 Thread Grzesiek
Hi there, I plan to use NFS over RDMA. I decided to buy two QLE7340 InfniBand controllers and DAC cable (no switch, two nodes only). Is QLE7340 supported by Sid? Is required software included in Debian repositories? Thanks in advance for any help Greg

Re: ssh -X and size of GUI elements (KDE/Qt)

2022-02-15 Thread Christian Britz
On 2022-02-15 17:26 UTC+0100, Dan Ritter wrote: > It's probably a disagreement on screen dpi settings. Check your > native setting and then replicate it on your headless server's > KDE config? Wouldn't this mainly/exclusively affect the fonts? I set dpi in both systemsettings5 tool explicitly to 9

Re: Misremembered

2022-02-15 Thread John Hasler
Andrei writes: > DOS was both very limited in capabilities and didn't implement any > kind of access control or similar. It *couldn't*. The 8088/8086 lacked the hardware. > This was probably the best breeding ground for computer viruses the > bad guys could ever hope for, as they could "infect"

Re: Installing bullseye into previously existing encrypted disk with buster

2022-02-15 Thread Nitebirdz
On Sat, Feb 12, 2022 at 09:36:45AM +1100, David wrote: > On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 at 02:54, Nitebirdz wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 10, 2022 at 04:37:55PM -0500, Dan Ritter wrote: > > > Nitebirdz wrote: > > > > > I currently have a laptop running buster on an encrypted disk that boots > > > > via EFI. The fi

Re: Uninstalling a package removes other essential packages: What is the best course of action?

2022-02-15 Thread tomas
On Tue, Feb 15, 2022 at 07:00:59PM +0100, Stella Ashburne wrote: > Dearie [...] > > Heck, I remember the times where there was a Germanized version of ASCII [...] > Gosh...you have just revealed your age(my father's contemporary perhaps?) Could well be :-) Cheers -- t signature.asc Des

Re: Converting a BIOS (CSM) Debian installation into UEFI

2022-02-15 Thread Felix Miata
David Wright composed on 2022-02-15 10:11 (UTC-0600): > Is anything else required for B to become a "native EFI" installation? > This conversion process will, I think, make the system boot into > the EFI-ed B by default. If I want to make E boot by default again, > should I boot E and run update-

Re: Misremembered

2022-02-15 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 15 feb 22, 12:41:28, John Hasler wrote: > Andrei POPESCU writes: > > When it loads a kernel or chain-loads another boot-loader it basically > > hands over control completely, > > Which is what DOS does. That was possibly not the best choice of words from my side. DOS was both very limite

Re: Uninstalling a package removes other essential packages: What is the best course of action?

2022-02-15 Thread Kushal Kumaran
On Tue, Feb 15 2022 at 06:56:28 PM, Stella Ashburne wrote: > Hello The Wanderer > >> Sent: Monday, February 14, 2022 at 8:48 PM >> From: "The Wanderer" >> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org >> Subject: Re: Uninstalling a package removes other essential >> packages: What is the best course of action

Issue: Slack no longer shows tray icon

2022-02-15 Thread RP
Putting it here in case someone needs it. Issue: Slack no longer shows tray icon Background: I user Slack and follow the usual workaround in order to install the deb package:     - download libindicator3-7     - download libappindicator3-1     - install slack-desktop Problem: Started maybe a

Re: Misremembered

2022-02-15 Thread John Hasler
Andrei POPESCU writes: > When it loads a kernel or chain-loads another boot-loader it basically > hands over control completely, Which is what DOS does. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: Stupid question

2022-02-15 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 15 feb 22, 11:59:59, David wrote: > On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 at 07:57, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > On Lu, 14 feb 22, 10:41:52, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: > > > > How does it decide which partition to boot from? I think this is what > > > the OP is asking. > > > As far as I understand the path to se

Re: Misremembered (was: Re: Stupid question)

2022-02-15 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 14 feb 22, 17:23:52, David Wright wrote: > > On 2/14/2022 10:19 AM, Bijan Soleymani wrote: > > > > > > Not sure about the Debian installer (except that it does boot and > > > run Linux, but not sure it ever switches to another kernel > > > midway), but the Grub bootloader is kind of a mini-

Re: 5.15 kernel just won't do on Intel Rocket Lake...

2022-02-15 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 16 feb 22, 00:50:21, David wrote: > > I just wrote about two places where Debian kernel packages with > "trunk" in their names are visible. But I do not know what those > packages are. If you can explain what those packages are, > what their life cycle is, and why they are named "trunk", th

Re: Uninstalling a package removes other essential packages: What is the best course of action?

2022-02-15 Thread Stella Ashburne
Dearie > Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 1:55 AM > From: to...@tuxteam.de > To: "Stella Ashburne" > Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: Uninstalling a package removes other essential packages: What is > the best course of action? > > > Heck, I remember the times where there wa

Re: Uninstalling a package removes other essential packages: What is the best course of action?

2022-02-15 Thread Stella Ashburne
Hello The Wanderer > Sent: Monday, February 14, 2022 at 8:48 PM > From: "The Wanderer" > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: Uninstalling a package removes other essential packages: What is > the best course of action? > > > Do you have any reason to believe that it might? As compare

Re: Uninstalling a package removes other essential packages: What is the best course of action?

2022-02-15 Thread tomas
On Tue, Feb 15, 2022 at 06:35:46PM +0100, Stella Ashburne wrote: [...] > You are right. I would fix them if I had the knowledge and competency. Back to the libthai thing. Perhaps it is unfixable nowadays: what shall a browser do? Look at this harmless page [1]. Somewhere down there is the Thai t

Re: You know what? Not only Debian but Fedora 35 has libthai too....and more

2022-02-15 Thread Stella Ashburne
Hi Andy > Sent: Monday, February 14, 2022 at 9:05 PM > From: "Andy Smith" > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: You know what? Not only Debian but Fedora 35 has libthai > tooand more > > > systemd and all of Fedora is open source. While it's certainly not > impossible to actively

Re: You know what? Not only Debian but Fedora 35 has libthai too....and more

2022-02-15 Thread Stella Ashburne
Hi Andy > Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 2:22 AM > From: "Andrew M.A. Cater" > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: You know what? Not only Debian but Fedora 35 has libthai > tooand more > > Very grateful to Simon McVitie (smcv) for pointing me to the original bug > number in

Re: Uninstalling a package removes other essential packages: What is the best course of action?

2022-02-15 Thread tomas
On Tue, Feb 15, 2022 at 06:26:18PM +0100, Stella Ashburne wrote: > Dearie, > > Thanks for your reply. [...] > We have to make allowance for the fact that some people are quick to judge > others Right. But we have to make allowance for the fact that no one of us is right all the time ;-) C

Re: Uninstalling a package removes other essential packages: What is the best course of action?

2022-02-15 Thread Stella Ashburne
> Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 7:14 AM > From: "David Wright" > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: Uninstalling a package removes other essential packages: What is > the best course of action? > > > But in view of that single letter in your reply, and another > post on d-u, I'

Re: Uninstalling a package removes other essential packages: What is the best course of action?

2022-02-15 Thread Stella Ashburne
Dearie, Thanks for your reply. > Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 2:48 PM > From: to...@tuxteam.de > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: Uninstalling a package removes other essential packages: What is > the best course of action? > > > Please, hold your horses. Lack of knowledge

Re: Uninstalling a package removes other essential packages: What is the best course of action?

2022-02-15 Thread tomas
On Tue, Feb 15, 2022 at 10:09:35AM -0600, David Wright wrote: > On Tue 15 Feb 2022 at 07:48:57 (+0100), to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > Please, hold your horses. Lack of knowledge sometimes might > > come across as "xenophobic" [...] > Look back: the OP has had plenty of help from me, and may well >

Re: ssh -X and size of GUI elements (KDE/Qt)

2022-02-15 Thread Dan Ritter
Christian Britz wrote: > Hi, > > when I logon to my headless server via ssh -X, I can start graphical > applications and they are displayed on my local X server. > > The font size is excactly the same as on my dektop, but GUI elements > like buttons are somehow smaller in vertical size. It seems

Converting a BIOS (CSM) Debian installation into UEFI

2022-02-15 Thread David Wright
With the threads on "Stupid question" and "Throw an hard drive" in d-u at the moment, this seems timely: I have a drive which contains two Debian installations, one of which (B) was installed for BIOS booting, and the other (E) was installed with EFI booting. I would like to convert B into a EFI s

Re: dual booting, was Re: Stupid question

2022-02-15 Thread David Wright
With respect to the original problem, this response is moot. On Sun 13 Feb 2022 at 18:50:43 (+0100), Hans wrote: > > If you want to boot A, just select it from the menu presented by B's > > grub. > > > > When you boot and run A, you can update-grub¹ and that will scan > > and see both systems, w

Re: dual booting, was Re: Stupid question

2022-02-15 Thread David Wright
On Sun 13 Feb 2022 at 19:26:51 (+0100), Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Du, 13 feb 22, 11:01:48, David Wright wrote: > > > > Typically, one would have a primary, "master" linux system which would > > be used to write an MBR pointing to itself. The other, legacy system > > would have its grub.cfg kept u

Re: dual booting, was Re: Stupid question

2022-02-15 Thread David Wright
On Mon 14 Feb 2022 at 10:18:13 (+1100), David wrote: > On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 at 05:27, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > On Du, 13 feb 22, 11:01:48, David Wright wrote: > > TLDR: > On the topic of grub automatic configuration > 1) suggestions how to avoid it > 2) why I prefer to do that > > Disclaimer: co

Re: Uninstalling a package removes other essential packages: What is the best course of action?

2022-02-15 Thread David Wright
On Tue 15 Feb 2022 at 07:48:57 (+0100), to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Mon, Feb 14, 2022 at 05:14:36PM -0600, David Wright wrote: > > [...] > > > Perhaps the simplest way of answering this is to configure > > your system with /etc/default/locale file as LANG=C.UTF-8, > > and unset any specific i18n

ssh -X and size of GUI elements (KDE/Qt)

2022-02-15 Thread Christian Britz
Hi, when I logon to my headless server via ssh -X, I can start graphical applications and they are displayed on my local X server. The font size is excactly the same as on my dektop, but GUI elements like buttons are somehow smaller in vertical size. It seems to depend on the used toolkit, I noti

Re: gpg-agent, smartcard remembers PIN forever

2022-02-15 Thread Teemu Likonen
* 2022-02-15 07:24:51-0500, Henning Follmann wrote: > I do have my private keys on a smartcard. Everything works fine, > but I noticed that gpg-agent does not forget the PIN of the card > It just remembers it forever (as long as the card remains inserted). > I have to physically remove the smartc

Re: Sid : reboot looses boot partition and goes directly to bios

2022-02-15 Thread Christian Britz
Is this by any chance an UEFI system? I think I remember from dual boot times, that Windows 10 played from time to time with the EFI bootloaders and I experienced the same symptoms like you. I think running grub-install inside Debian fixed it for me. The final solution for me was to get rid of th

Re: Sid : reboot looses boot partition and goes directly to bios

2022-02-15 Thread songbird
Sébastien Kalt wrote: ... > If I stop the computer (shutdown -h now or with KDE menu) it boots > normally to grub when powered on. > > I don't really know when it starts, I rarely reboot my system, last time > might be last november. > > I don't really know where to look to find what might goes wro

Re: 5.15 kernel just won't do on Intel Rocket Lake...

2022-02-15 Thread David
On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 at 17:23, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > On 2022-02-14 23:00, David wrote: > > On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 at 10:14, David Wright wrote: > >> On Mon 14 Feb 2022 at 00:40:11 (-0500), Felix Miata wrote: > >>> Felix Miata composed on 2022-02-13 23:53 (UTC-0500): > David Wr

Re: gpg-agent, smartcard remembers PIN forever

2022-02-15 Thread David
On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 at 23:25, Henning Follmann wrote: > I do have my private keys on a smartcard. Everything works fine, > but I noticed that gpg-agent does not forget the PIN of the card > It just remembers it forever (as long as the card remains inserted). > I have to physically remove the smar

gpg-agent, smartcard remembers PIN forever

2022-02-15 Thread Henning Follmann
Hello, I do have my private keys on a smartcard. Everything works fine, but I noticed that gpg-agent does not forget the PIN of the card It just remembers it forever (as long as the card remains inserted). I have to physically remove the smartcard to wipe the PIN. It might be also a problem of gtk

Re: Misremembered (was: Re: Stupid question)

2022-02-15 Thread Curt
On 2022-02-15, David wrote: > On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 at 10:24, David Wright wrote: > >> Effectively, Grub has two shells, Grub> and Grub rescue>, depending on >> whether the "normal" module has been loaded, and about the only thing >> you can sensibly do without normal is to find it and insmod it. >

Re: Throw an hard drive with Debian installation into...

2022-02-15 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Tue, Feb 15, 2022 at 12:31:58PM +0200, Anssi Saari wrote: > Thomas Anderson writes: > > > I am curious, what would happen if I threw a fully functionally, > > > > Linux installation (HDD) into an entirely different hardware configuration: > > > > Different Process AMD->Intel? > > > > Ram/mobo

Re: Throw an hard drive with Debian installation into...

2022-02-15 Thread Anssi Saari
Thomas Anderson writes: > I am curious, what would happen if I threw a fully functionally, > > Linux installation (HDD) into an entirely different hardware configuration: > > Different Process AMD->Intel? > > Ram/mobo I assume doesn't matter? > > I half expect it to boot up, and be fully function

Sid : reboot looses boot partition and goes directly to bios

2022-02-15 Thread Sébastien Kalt
Hi, I'm experiencing something weird on my ASUS PN50 : I have a dual boot, windows and Sid. CPU: 8-core AMD Ryzen 7 4700U with Radeon Graphics (-MCP-) speed/min/max: 2514/1400/2000 MHz Kernel: 5.15.0-3-amd64 x86_64 Up: 3h 1m Mem: 9300.6/15483.7 MiB (60.1%) Storage: 238.47 GiB (66.6% used) Procs:

Re: Throw an hard drive with Debian installation into...

2022-02-15 Thread Thomas Anderson
Thanks for replies. It all makes sense once I get the answers. =) On 2/15/22 07:29, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Tue, Feb 15, 2022 at 01:58:24AM +0100, Thomas Anderson wrote: I am curious, what would happen if I threw a fully functionally, Linux installation (HDD) into an entirely different har