Re: still fixing stuff the upgrade broke...

2022-01-06 Thread David Wright
On Thu 06 Jan 2022 at 07:24:47 (-0500), Dan Ritter wrote: > Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote: > > So in my Xfce applications menu I have a top-level entry "Ham radio", and > > there was exactly _one_ program to invoke under that, called "chirp". (I > > use this to program radios.) I don't run this

Re: reduce size of debian-live-11.1.0-amd64-xfce+nonfree.iso installation

2022-01-06 Thread David Christensen
On 1/6/22 6:41 AM, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: On Tue, Jan 04, 2022 at 06:37:53PM -0800, David Christensen wrote: debian-user I installed debian-live-11.1.0-amd64-xfce+nonfree.iso and updated onto a amd64 computer for graphical desktop usage (e.g. "daily driver"): I noted that the install was l

Re: IWD+ifupdown instead of wpasupplicant and systemd-resolved?

2022-01-06 Thread Wim
Hi, On Sunday, 02 January at 17:40, riveravaldez wrote: > Hi, I have an old desktop machine with Debian 11, running fine, as usual. > Recently I bought a USB/Wi-Fi dongle/adapter to connect it to my home WLAN. > The chipset and correspondent firmware blob seem to be the 'MediaTek > MT7601U firmwa

Re: Thunderbird not allowing local accounts

2022-01-06 Thread paulf
On Thu, 6 Jan 2022 15:26:23 + Brad Rogers wrote: > On Thu, 06 Jan 2022 15:19:27 + > "Jeremy Nicoll" wrote: > > Hello Jeremy, > > >but other servers that use OAuth2 - notably Microsoft ones - > >regularly revoke users' access tokens and the users currently have > >to set those > > Not

Re: still fixing stuff the upgrade broke...

2022-01-06 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
On 2022-01-06 10:41 a.m., Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote: > On Thursday 06 January 2022 07:20:43 am Greg Wooledge wrote: >> On Thu, Jan 06, 2022 at 01:01:07AM -0500, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote: >>> So I downloaded the current version of the program. This gets incremental >>> upgrades all the time,

Re: still fixing stuff the upgrade broke...

2022-01-06 Thread David
On Fri, 7 Jan 2022 at 02:39, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote: Hi Roy, You sound unhappy to me. Unhappiness can often be caused by a mismatch between expectations and reality. I try to offer you some advice based on years of reading this list ... > > Going by the version number, that looks like it's

Re: still fixing stuff the upgrade broke...

2022-01-06 Thread Dan Ritter
Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote: > On Thursday 06 January 2022 07:24:47 am Dan Ritter wrote: > > ps -auwx|grep -e screen -e lock > > That gets me this: > > Warning: bad ps syntax, perhaps a bogus '-'? See http://procps.sf.net/faq.html > root 110 0.0 0.0 0 0 ?S<2021 0:15

Re: still fixing stuff the upgrade broke...

2022-01-06 Thread Roy J. Tellason, Sr.
On Thursday 06 January 2022 07:24:47 am Dan Ritter wrote: > ps -auwx|grep -e screen -e lock That gets me this: Warning: bad ps syntax, perhaps a bogus '-'? See http://procps.sf.net/faq.html root 110 0.0 0.0 0 0 ?S<2021 0:15 [kblockd/0] root 295 0.0 0.0

Re: still fixing stuff the upgrade broke...

2022-01-06 Thread Roy J. Tellason, Sr.
On Thursday 06 January 2022 07:20:43 am Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Thu, Jan 06, 2022 at 01:01:07AM -0500, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote: > > So I downloaded the current version of the program. This gets incremental > > upgrades all the time, and the latest one is chirp20220103, which I > > downloade

Re: Thunderbird not allowing local accounts

2022-01-06 Thread Brad Rogers
On Thu, 06 Jan 2022 15:19:27 + "Jeremy Nicoll" wrote: Hello Jeremy, >but other servers that use OAuth2 - notably Microsoft ones - regularly >revoke users' access tokens and the users currently have to set those Not using oauth myself, I'd failed to do more than simply glance at some of thos

Re: Thunderbird not allowing local accounts

2022-01-06 Thread Jeremy Nicoll
On Thu, 6 Jan 2022, at 05:31, Brad Rogers wrote: > Many CM users are successfully collecting mail from google using > oauth2. In the last couple of days there's been a flurry of discussion on the CM Developers' mail list about some problems with OAuth2 though. My impression, not knowing the ins&

Re: reduce size of debian-live-11.1.0-amd64-xfce+nonfree.iso installation

2022-01-06 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Tue, Jan 04, 2022 at 06:37:53PM -0800, David Christensen wrote: > debian-user > > I installed debian-live-11.1.0-amd64-xfce+nonfree.iso and updated onto a > amd64 computer for graphical desktop usage (e.g. "daily driver"): > > 2022-01-04 17:57:07 root@laalaa ~ > # cat /etc/debian_version ; una

Re: Thunderbird not allowing local accounts

2022-01-06 Thread Celejar
On Thu, 06 Jan 2022 10:40:10 + Eric S Fraga wrote: > On Wednesday, 5 Jan 2022 at 11:26, Charles Curley wrote: > > Or, if you want to stick with your investment in Thunderbird, use > > dovecot to set up a local imap server. > > dovecot is also quite useful for letting those MUAs that do not

Re: Thunderbird not allowing local accounts

2022-01-06 Thread Celejar
On Thu, 06 Jan 2022 09:26:16 +0100 didier gaumet wrote: > > > Le mercredi 05 janvier 2022 à 11:58 -0500, Celejar a écrit : > > On Wed, 5 Jan 2022 09:44:24 -0500 > > "Paul M. Foster" wrote: > > > > ... > > > > > Thanks for the info. Mozilla Foundation is seriously annoying me > > > lately. >

Re: still fixing stuff the upgrade broke...

2022-01-06 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Thu, Jan 06, 2022 at 12:55:51PM -, Curt wrote: > On 2022-01-06, Dan Ritter wrote: > > > > The change there is that python2 and python3 are ridiculously > > incompatible with each other, so programs written in each need > > to call the appropriate interpreter. However, most python > > progra

Re: still fixing stuff the upgrade broke...

2022-01-06 Thread Curt
On 2022-01-06, Dan Ritter wrote: > > The change there is that python2 and python3 are ridiculously > incompatible with each other, so programs written in each need > to call the appropriate interpreter. However, most python > programs just assume that "/usr/bin/python" or `env python` will > magic

Re: still fixing stuff the upgrade broke...

2022-01-06 Thread Dan Ritter
Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote: > So in my Xfce applications menu I have a top-level entry "Ham radio", and > there was exactly _one_ program to invoke under that, called "chirp". (I > use this to program radios.) I don't run this too often, but having > recently acquired a new radio I went to

Re: still fixing stuff the upgrade broke...

2022-01-06 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Jan 06, 2022 at 01:01:07AM -0500, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote: > So I downloaded the current version of the program. This gets incremental > upgrades all the time, and the latest one is chirp20220103, which I > downloaded. When I went to invoke it directly, there was an error about > so

Re: Problems with videos playback for my user

2022-01-06 Thread Lucio Crusca
On 06/01/22 00:34, Lucio Crusca wrote: Thanks, nice try, but, besides I've cleared all three steps just in case (CPU always below 5% while playing videos), none of those can explain why video playback still works correctly for all the users except mine. Since I needed videos to play, I had

Re: Thunderbird not allowing local accounts

2022-01-06 Thread Eric S Fraga
On Wednesday, 5 Jan 2022 at 11:26, Charles Curley wrote: > Or, if you want to stick with your investment in Thunderbird, use > dovecot to set up a local imap server. dovecot is also quite useful for letting those MUAs that do not support oauth2 access services which require it. -- Eric S Fraga

Re: Thunderbird not allowing local accounts

2022-01-06 Thread didier . gaumet
Le jeudi 06 janvier 2022 à 09:40 +0100, didier gaumet a écrit : [...] > For CLI/TUI MUAs, > I think they are all genuine MUAs, designed to cope with /var/mail > Mbox > mailboxes Correction, they are almost all designed to cope with Mbox, but for example mh/nmh/mmh are not (MH mailboxes)

Re: Thunderbird not allowing local accounts

2022-01-06 Thread didier gaumet
Le mercredi 05 janvier 2022 à 09:44 -0500, Paul M. Foster a écrit : > > Can anyone recommend another MUA which uses mbox format and is > relatively easy to configure? > > Paul Hello Paul, For GUI MUAs, others have suggested Claws-mail (with the mbox plgin, by default Claws only manages MH m

Re: Thunderbird not allowing local accounts

2022-01-06 Thread didier gaumet
Le mercredi 05 janvier 2022 à 11:58 -0500, Celejar a écrit : > On Wed, 5 Jan 2022 09:44:24 -0500 > "Paul M. Foster" wrote: > > ... > > > Thanks for the info. Mozilla Foundation is seriously annoying me > > lately. > > > > Can anyone recommend another MUA which uses mbox format and is > > re