Re: telling if we've actually booted from /boot/xen-4.14-amd64.gz

2021-12-11 Thread Tim Woodall
On Sun, 12 Dec 2021, Andy Smith wrote: Hi Tim, On Fri, Dec 10, 2021 at 10:11:04PM +, Tim Woodall wrote: Is there a simple way to tell if the kernel/hypervisor that was used to boot is the one currently installed in /boot. I do not do this - I build my own hypervisor packages when there i

Re: CUPS mailing list (was: Re: bullseye fusses)

2021-12-11 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sat, 11 Dec, 2021 at 10:32 PM, Andy Smith wrote: To: debian-user@lists.debian.org On Sun, Dec 12, 2021 at 02:56:12AM +, Andy Smith wrote: > Is that the list that you are talking about? For those playing along at home, Gene directly sent me a rambling HTML reply which did confirm that c.

Re: CUPS mailing list (was: Re: bullseye fusses)

2021-12-11 Thread Andy Smith
On Sun, Dec 12, 2021 at 02:56:12AM +, Andy Smith wrote: > Is that the list that you are talking about? For those playing along at home, Gene directly sent me a rambling HTML reply which did confirm that c...@cups.org is the list he is talking about, but only went on to say that he has attempte

CUPS mailing list (was: Re: bullseye fusses)

2021-12-11 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Sat, Dec 11, 2021 at 06:11:28PM -0800, Gene Heskett wrote: > #3: I see apple has completed the embrace,engulf,destroy of cups, its mailing > list > has been removed from the apple servers. The bounce as undeliverable msg > resolves > to an apple server, but there is not a cup list ther

[Solved] fuse vs. fuse3.

2021-12-11 Thread peter
From: pe...@easthope.ca Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2021 08:06:15 -0800 > fuse 3 is installed. > > aptitude still shows fuse, ifuse and exfat-fuse are not installed. > > fuse3 conflicts with fuse and fuse shouldn't be installed. "apt-cache rdepends fuse" identified many packages dependent upon fus

Re: bullseye fusses

2021-12-11 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sat, 11 Dec, 2021 at 9:07 PM, me wrote: To: debian-u...@debian.org Greetings all; Several bullseye problems: #1: I have yet to get the new kmail to receive or send an email. I could use some help there as I am forced to use FF as webmail. And AFAIAK, its busted for that. #2: I just

Re: strange problem with usb wifi adapter

2021-12-11 Thread David Wright
On Sun 12 Dec 2021 at 00:18:52 (+), Long Wind wrote: > if this theory is correct, how does debian installer configure it? official > image i use is supposed to be without non-free firmware It's not a theory, it's a hypothesis based on what you have told us. Each new fact that you reveal ca

WM focus, was Re: changed file while editing

2021-12-11 Thread David Wright
On Sat 11 Dec 2021 at 18:24:46 (-0500), The Wanderer wrote: > On 2021-12-11 at 18:20, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Sat, Dec 11, 2021 at 05:18:32PM -0500, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote: > >> On Saturday 11 December 2021 02:39:06 pm David Wright wrote: > >> > >>> Another facility that I don't use is "cl

Re: telling if we've actually booted from /boot/xen-4.14-amd64.gz

2021-12-11 Thread Andy Smith
Hi Tim, On Fri, Dec 10, 2021 at 10:11:04PM +, Tim Woodall wrote: > Is there a simple way to tell if the kernel/hypervisor that was used to > boot is the one currently installed in /boot. I do not do this - I build my own hypervisor packages when there is an upstream XSA that affects me and th

Re: changed file while editing

2021-12-11 Thread David Christensen
On 12/11/21 3:24 PM, The Wanderer wrote: On 2021-12-11 at 18:20, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Sat, Dec 11, 2021 at 05:18:32PM -0500, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote: On Saturday 11 December 2021 02:39:06 pm David Wright wrote: Another facility that I don't use is "click-to-focus", because I prefer to

Re: changed file while editing

2021-12-11 Thread The Wanderer
On 2021-12-11 at 18:20, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Sat, Dec 11, 2021 at 05:18:32PM -0500, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. > wrote: > >> On Saturday 11 December 2021 02:39:06 pm David Wright wrote: >> >>> Another facility that I don't use is "click-to-focus", because I >>> prefer to focus a window just by sh

Re: changed file while editing

2021-12-11 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Dec 11, 2021 at 05:18:32PM -0500, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote: > On Saturday 11 December 2021 02:39:06 pm David Wright wrote: > > Another facility that I don't use is "click-to-focus", because > > I prefer to focus a window just by shoving the mouse inside it > > (no precision required). >

Re: changed file while editing

2021-12-11 Thread mick crane
No comment on that, as I don't use a DE. Window manager, desktop environment,X I get confused about those. You don't have any of the desktop stuff but still can run a browser and that ? I think I'd like that better. Is there stuff you can delete to get that sort of function or need make a n

Re: strange problem with usb wifi adapter

2021-12-11 Thread David Wright
On Sat 11 Dec 2021 at 22:03:41 (+), Long Wind wrote: > David is right, lsusb: > Bus 002 Device 004: ID 148f:7601 Ralink Technology, Corp. MT7601U Wireless > Adapter > > i do some interesting test, am able to reproduce my problem, > it reaffirm my suspicion that it's related to power cutoff,

Re: changed file while editing

2021-12-11 Thread Roy J. Tellason, Sr.
On Saturday 11 December 2021 02:39:06 pm David Wright wrote: > Another facility that I don't use is "click-to-focus", because > I prefer to focus a window just by shoving the mouse inside it > (no precision required). I prefer this as well. Where is this set? -- Member of the toughest, meanest,

Re: changed file while editing

2021-12-11 Thread mick crane
On 2021-12-11 19:39, David Wright wrote: On Sat 11 Dec 2021 at 15:29:02 (+), mick crane wrote: Mine are a bit different there, have Use middle mouse click to close tabs use middle mouse click to open URLS Auto hide mouse pointer Open new tab to the right of the active tab Audible bell Visua

Re: Can you help me?

2021-12-11 Thread deloptes
Jeremy Ardley wrote: > Most people will have a friend, with a monitor. > > But I guess that isn't something that occurred to you. No ... actually not - they do not have either a spare monitor or time. Luckily they also have no st**id ideas either. -- FCD6 3719 0FFB F1BF 38EA 4727 5348 5F1F DCF

Re: telling if we've actually booted from /boot/xen-4.14-amd64.gz

2021-12-11 Thread Charles Curley
On Fri, 10 Dec 2021 20:14:36 -0700 Charles Curley wrote: > If you are using the unattended-upgrades package, you can set it to > send you emails. Those emails will let you know which packages are > upgraded, and if a reboot is required. See > /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unattended-upgrades. I neglecte

Re: After upgrade from 10 to 11, 63 broken packages and aptitude never finishes.

2021-12-11 Thread A. F. Cano
On Fri, Dec 10, 2021 at 10:07:41AM +0100, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Jo, 09 dec 21, 18:37:02, A. F. Cano wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 09, 2021 at 07:44:09PM +0100, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > On Du, 05 dec 21, 18:08:35, A. F. Cano wrote: > > > > > > > > Something got really messed up during the upgrade.

Re: changed file while editing

2021-12-11 Thread David Wright
On Sat 11 Dec 2021 at 15:29:02 (+), mick crane wrote: > Mine are a bit different there, have > Use middle mouse click to close tabs > use middle mouse click to open URLS > Auto hide mouse pointer > Open new tab to the right of the active tab > Audible bell > Visual bell > all unchecked except

Re: strange problem with usb wifi adapter

2021-12-11 Thread David Wright
On Sat 11 Dec 2021 at 12:13:23 (+), Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > On Sat, Dec 11, 2021 at 05:33:05AM +, Long Wind wrote: > > buster installer can configure my usb wifi adapter without non-freeware > > it works well after installation, i install many packages by wifi > > i shutdown and power di

Re: changed file while editing

2021-12-11 Thread David Christensen
On 12/11/21 7:29 AM, mick crane wrote: On 2021-12-11 06:34, David Christensen wrote: On 12/10/21 7:44 PM, mick crane wrote: On Fri 10 Dec 2021 at 22:37:22 (+), mick crane wrote: hello please excuse basic lack of understanding. I try to write some program in Perl I would find useful. Use

Re: Problems upgrading from Debian 10 to 11

2021-12-11 Thread Charles Curley
On Sat, 11 Dec 2021 16:54:04 + James Dutton wrote: > When I compiled the latest xrdp from the latest sources, xrdp worked > again. Please can debian release a more up to date version of > xorgxrdp? You probably ought to file a bug against xrdp. -- Does anybody read signatures any more? ht

Re: telling if we've actually booted from /boot/xen-4.14-amd64.gz

2021-12-11 Thread Charles Curley
On Sat, 11 Dec 2021 05:52:30 + (GMT) Tim Woodall wrote: > I don't use that but I do something similar. Does unattended-upgrades > email me each day until I reboot? Not every day, but every day when an upgrade is applied it emails you, and tells you that a reboot is pending. -- Does anybody

Re: Debian and FSF docs

2021-12-11 Thread tomas
On Sat, Dec 11, 2021 at 09:46:58AM -0600, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: [...] > It's not just yellow press. The American approach to any public issue is to > turn it into a personal contest between individuals. That's for one reason > only: so we can ignore the real larger issue, and make sure we neve

Problems upgrading from Debian 10 to 11

2021-12-11 Thread James Dutton
Hi, After upgrading from Debian 10 to Debian 11, xrdp stopped working. Someone else has a very good description of the problem here: https://c-nergy.be/blog/?p=17113 Essentially, the problem is fixed by upgrading xorgxrdp to a version newer than 0.2.12. When I compiled the latest xrdp from the l

fuse vs. fuse3.

2021-12-11 Thread peter
Upgraded 10 to 11 according to instructions. https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/arm64/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html fuse 3 is installed. aptitude still shows fuse, ifuse and exfat-fuse are not installed. fuse3 conflicts with fuse and fuse shouldn't be installed. Why does aptitude note i

USB root disk doesn't "survive" closing of laptop

2021-12-11 Thread Musbur
I'm booting my Windows-only work laptop into Debian from a portable USB3 disk for private use. This has been working fine for several years and Debian releases. Also I could just shut the lid and when I opened it again everything worked as before. Recently I noticed that after re-opening the lid,

Re: Debian and FSF docs

2021-12-11 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
On Sat, Dec 11, 2021, 1:39 AM wrote: > On Fri, Dec 10, 2021 at 10:09:39PM -0600, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > > On Fri, Dec 10, 2021, 6:40 PM Stefan Monnier > > wrote: > > [...] > .. > > That I agree with. And it mirrors the earlier FSF/linux-kernel "labeling" > > friction. But I never saw tha

Re: changed file while editing

2021-12-11 Thread mick crane
On 2021-12-11 06:34, David Christensen wrote: On 12/10/21 7:44 PM, mick crane wrote: On 2021-12-11 03:07, David Wright wrote: On Fri 10 Dec 2021 at 22:37:22 (+), mick crane wrote: hello please excuse basic lack of understanding. I try to write some program in Perl I would find useful. Use

Re: strange problem with usb wifi adapter

2021-12-11 Thread Joe
On Sat, 11 Dec 2021 05:33:05 + (UTC) Long Wind wrote: > buster installer can configure my usb wifi adapter without > non-freeware it works well after installation, i install many > packages by wifi i shutdown and power disconnect from pc > then power return and i boot buster, > buster can't

Re: strange problem with usb wifi adapter

2021-12-11 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sat, Dec 11, 2021 at 05:33:05AM +, Long Wind wrote: > buster installer can configure my usb wifi adapter without non-freeware > it works well after installation, i install many packages by wifi > i shutdown and power disconnect from pc > then power return and i boot buster, > buster can't r

Re: Reasonably simple setup for 1TB HDD and 250GB M.2 NVMe SSD

2021-12-11 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Fri, Dec 10, 2021 at 08:08:22AM -0700, Charles Curley wrote: > On Fri, 10 Dec 2021 08:26:24 -0500 > Dan Ritter wrote: > > > Many laptops never need to go to disk-stored suspension; a low-power > > sleep mode is all they need to get through to the next power point. > > For the cases where it is

Re: Update Debian 9 to 10

2021-12-11 Thread Andrei POPESCU
[this appears to have been meant for the list] On Vi, 10 dec 21, 20:25:26, Thanos Katsiolis wrote: > > Yes, it's possible, e.g. in case there was a conflict and APT decided it > > > should remove remove your Desktop Environment to resolve the conflict. > > > > > This should be visible in the logs

Re: strange problem with usb wifi adapter

2021-12-11 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 11 dec 21, 08:49:00, Long Wind wrote: > > now i can't run lsmod in past unless i have time machine > but i might install bullseye in future, i'll have same problem > do you have suggestion on trouble-shooting ? We don't have time machines, but we do have logs ;) Kind regards, Andrei -- h

Re: I'm getting a dependencies error when trying to install roundcube 1.5.1 on my bullseye machine

2021-12-11 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 11 dec 21, 06:04:09, Tim Woodall wrote: > On Sat, 11 Dec 2021, Steve Dondley wrote: > > > > I've not used apt to install packages from files but can you put > > > ../roundcube*.deb? Yes, that would have worked. > > Thanks but I just figured it out literally 30 seconds ago. Had to do the

Re: upgrade - packages have been kept back

2021-12-11 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 11 dec 21, 01:54:12, teamas...@mad-hatters-teatime.teanet.org wrote: > On Fri, 10 Dec 2021 23:57:44 +0100 > Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > On Vi, 10 dec 21, 23:39:30, teamas...@mad-hatters-teatime.teanet.org > > wrote: > > > > > > in 2 things i am pretty sure, my first mail only john doe rea

Re: strange problem with usb wifi adapter

2021-12-11 Thread tomas
On Sat, Dec 11, 2021 at 08:11:04AM +, Long Wind wrote: > > tomas, glad you are back, i think you've  been for long time thanks for the warm welcome :) Actually, just a trivial technical problem: while upgrading my server, Debian's mailer got too many bounces and (rightfully) kicked me out. C

Re: strange problem with usb wifi adapter

2021-12-11 Thread Cindy Sue Causey
On 12/11/21, Long Wind wrote: > > tomas, glad you are back, i think you've been for long time > > i wonder if my wifi adapter really needs nonfreeware That's what I was wondering. What's it using to successfully function before you have to install the nonfree package after the next boot up? Wou

Re: strange problem with usb wifi adapter

2021-12-11 Thread Long Wind
tomas, glad you are back, i think you've  been for long time i wonder if my wifi adapter really needs nonfreeware after all , debain disclaimer is true, it's not bug-free, use it at your own risk