Re: Service stuck at shutdown

2021-11-10 Thread David Wright
On Wed 10 Nov 2021 at 22:18:07 (+0100), Erwan David wrote: > Le 10/11/2021 à 20:01, Tixy a écrit : > > On Wed, 2021-11-10 at 18:33 +0100, Erwan David wrote: > > > Since some time, I always have to wait 1 min 30 at shut down because > > > some service does not stop (for user erwan is said). > > > >

Re: ALSA device names.

2021-11-10 Thread David Wright
On Tue 09 Nov 2021 at 23:04:13 (+0100), deloptes wrote: > pe...@easthope.ca wrote: > > > OK, although > > surround21:CARD=Set,DEV=0 > > and > > surround40:CARD=Set,DEV=0 > > aren't atomic names.  Is the syntax and semantics explained in > > documentation? > > > > No surround22, surround23 ... sur

Re: [OT, deeply] Guix

2021-11-10 Thread David Wright
On Mon 08 Nov 2021 at 22:16:20 (-0500), Stefan Monnier wrote: > >> >> In contrast, with NixOS/Guix that list is available in a plain text > >> >> editable file. > > I'm not sure I'd call scheme a "plain text". > > Interesting. What I mean is a file that's intended to be manipulated by > a text ed

Re: [OT, deeply] Guix

2021-11-10 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
On Mon, Nov 8, 2021 at 9:22 PM Stefan Monnier wrote: > > language to do it. Here are some of those ways: > > Saltstack, Puppet, chef, ansible, AWS Cloudformation, XML > > I hear you, and you're probably right (save for XML: not sure what it > has to with the subject). > Simply that it could

Re: Service stuck at shutdow

2021-11-10 Thread Charles Curley
On Wed, 10 Nov 2021 22:18:07 +0100 Erwan David wrote: > Thanks, for me the culprint is 'dconf worker' (I see it being killed > with a 'timeout error') about 90s after preceding message. > > I do not know where it comes from, I have dconf-service installed as > a dependency of many things, thus

Re: Service stuck at shutdow

2021-11-10 Thread Erwan David
Le 10/11/2021 à 20:01, Tixy a écrit : On Wed, 2021-11-10 at 18:33 +0100, Erwan David wrote: Since some time, I always have to wait 1 min 30 at shut down because some service does not stop (for user erwan is said). How can I debug this, know which service is blocking the shutdown ? Assuming you

Re: downgrade qt version from 5 to 4

2021-11-10 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Wed, Nov 10, 2021 at 09:37:22AM +0100, lina wrote: > Hi all, > > In order to have avogadro instead of avogadro2. > > I intend to downgrade qt5 to qt4. > > But I can't find the qt4 snapshot from http://snapshot.debian.org/ > > Thanks again for your help, lina Hi Lina, As others have said -

Re: Service stuck at shutdow

2021-11-10 Thread Tixy
On Wed, 2021-11-10 at 18:33 +0100, Erwan David wrote: > Since some time, I always have to wait 1 min 30 at shut down because > some service does not stop (for user erwan is said). > > How can I debug this, know which service is blocking the shutdown ? Assuming you system is using systemd then lo

Re: Service stuck at shutdow

2021-11-10 Thread Charles Curley
On Wed, 10 Nov 2021 18:33:10 +0100 Erwan David wrote: > Since some time, I always have to wait 1 min 30 at shut down because > some service does not stop (for user erwan is said). > > How can I debug this, know which service is blocking the shutdown ? 1) Check your logs, especially /var/log/sy

Service stuck at shutdow

2021-11-10 Thread Erwan David
Since some time, I always have to wait 1 min 30 at shut down because some service does not stop (for user erwan is said). How can I debug this, know which service is blocking the shutdown ?

Re: downgrade qt version from 5 to 4

2021-11-10 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Wed, Nov 10, 2021 at 09:37:22AM +0100, lina wrote: In order to have avogadro instead of avogadro2. I intend to downgrade qt5 to qt4. You shouldn't need to: qt4 and 5, in theory at least, should be co-installable. Alas, Qt4 was enthusiastically purged from Debian at the earliest opportunity.

Re: release date on website with notes

2021-11-10 Thread Christian Britz
> On Wed, Nov 10, 2021 at 07:08:07AM -0500, Jeremy Brown wrote: >> >> My computer has had a number of malware incidents, so I am taking extra >> precautions. This morning I got an update notification about my os. Is >> there somewhere I can get notices directly from the debian website with an >> of

Re: release date on website with notes

2021-11-10 Thread Joost van Baal-Ilić
Hi Jeremy, On Wed, Nov 10, 2021 at 07:08:07AM -0500, Jeremy Brown wrote: > > My computer has had a number of malware incidents, so I am taking extra > precautions. This morning I got an update notification about my os. Is > there somewhere I can get notices directly from the debian website with a

Re: Package: nvidia-legacy-390xx-driver

2021-11-10 Thread Christian Britz
On 10.11.21 at 13:25 Greg Wooledge wrote: > I've never used an nvidia card myself, so I don't have first-hand > experience with them. From what I understand, the process of getting > graphics to work properly with nvidia goes something like this: > > 1) Install Debian. > > 2) Install firmware

Re: Package: nvidia-legacy-390xx-driver

2021-11-10 Thread Greg Wooledge
> > > On Tue, Nov 09, 2021 at 02:51:33PM +0100, lina wrote: > > > > Can I have a system with both X-session and the nvidia-driver > > > > as gaussian view requires > > > > > > > > Gaussview must be run in an X-windows session. On Wed, Nov 10, 2021 at 09:16:12AM +0100, lina wrote: > I use the xfce4

Re: Recs for new Linux laptop? (to replace Zareason)

2021-11-10 Thread Tom Browder
On Tue, Nov 9, 2021 at 09:17 Tom Browder wrote: > My Zareason laptop (13-in screen, very lightweight and thin) is running > Debian 10 natively and wonderfully (with Win10 as a dual boot option), but > the company has gone out of business and I want to start preparing a > standby replacement. > T

Re: downgrade qt version from 5 to 4

2021-11-10 Thread Christian Britz
On 10.11.21 at 09:37 lina wrote: > I intend to downgrade qt5 to qt4.  Don't do it. You will probably ruin your system. Many packages depend on qt5. As others suggested, you migh try running an older version of Debian inside a virtual machine.

Re: Recs for new Linux laptop? (to replace Zareason)

2021-11-10 Thread Christian Britz
On 09.11.21 at 18:47 Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > Results may vary: cheap Lenovo may be a very different experience to > Thinkpad. There is a quality difference which depends on original price, > I think. Sure, I know, I wanted to express that if even a cheap low end IdeaPad with no stated support

Re: downgrade qt version from 5 to 4

2021-11-10 Thread deloptes
Jerome BENOIT wrote: >> I intend to downgrade qt5 to qt4. > > You are looking for trouble here. yes indeed - the only thing that make sense is a virtual machine with some old distro that has qt4 -- FCD6 3719 0FFB F1BF 38EA 4727 5348 5F1F DCFE BCB0

Re: downgrade qt version from 5 to 4

2021-11-10 Thread Jerome BENOIT
On 10/11/2021 09:37, lina wrote: Hi all, In order to have avogadro instead of avogadro2. I intend to downgrade qt5 to qt4. You are looking for trouble here. Jerome But I can't find the qt4 snapshot from http://snapshot.debian.org/ Thanks again for your he

Re: Package: nvidia-legacy-390xx-driver

2021-11-10 Thread Jerome BENOIT
On 10/11/2021 09:16, lina wrote: I use the xfce4. Shall I consider changing to the gnome in order to get this problem solved? I guess it is a lower level issue. You may try Debian Live on your box to get a better idea. Cheers, Jerome Thanks, On Tue, Nov 9, 2021 at 5:35 PM Greg Wooledge

downgrade qt version from 5 to 4

2021-11-10 Thread lina
Hi all, In order to have avogadro instead of avogadro2. I intend to downgrade qt5 to qt4. But I can't find the qt4 snapshot from http://snapshot.debian.org/ Thanks again for your help, lina

Re: Package: nvidia-legacy-390xx-driver

2021-11-10 Thread lina
I use the xfce4. Shall I consider changing to the gnome in order to get this problem solved? Thanks, On Tue, Nov 9, 2021 at 5:35 PM Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Nov 09, 2021 at 04:15:49PM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 09, 2021 at 02:51:33PM +0100, lina wrote: > > > Can I ha