Re: Debian 11 installer crashed and reboot

2021-08-20 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
On 8/21/2021 12:08 AM, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: On 8/19/2021 3:11 PM, Andy Smith wrote: Hi Chuck, On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 08:04:43AM -0400, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: After some testing of the Debian 11 installer on Xen (using the debian-11.0.0-amd64-netinst.iso), I find that this image only suppo

Re: Debian 11 installer crashed and reboot

2021-08-20 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
On 8/21/2021 12:42 AM, John Mok wrote: Hi Chuck, As a quick fix on the make installer media work, how can I remake my own installation ISO by recompil ing the kernel and initramfs ? Can give me some directions ? Not yet regarding what kernel options are needed, because I have not done any t

Re: Debian 11 installer crashed and reboot

2021-08-20 Thread John Mok
Hi Chuck, As a quick fix on the make installer media work, how can I remake my own installation ISO by recompil ing the kernel and initramfs ? Can give me some directions ? Thanks a lot. John Mok On Sat, Aug 21, 2021, 12:08 Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: > On 8/19/2021 3:11 PM, Andy Smith wrote: >

Re: Failed to detect SSD when installing Bullseye

2021-08-20 Thread Bjørn Mork
Nikolay Velyurov writes: > I tried to install Bullseye on my MacBookAir6,1 but the SSD is not detected: > > ACPI: SSDT 0x8CD7E000 00010B (v01 APPLE SataAhci 1000 > INTL 20100915) > libata version 3.00 loaded. > ahci :04:00.0: version 3.0 > ahci :04:00.0: AHCI 0001. 32 slo

Re: Debian 11 installer crashed and reboot

2021-08-20 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
On 8/19/2021 3:11 PM, Andy Smith wrote: Hi Chuck, On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 08:04:43AM -0400, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: After some testing of the Debian 11 installer on Xen (using the debian-11.0.0-amd64-netinst.iso), I find that this image only supports installation into a Xen PV guest, the guest

Re: Respect for newbies and new comers [ was : moderators, I would appreciate if you could interfere ]

2021-08-20 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
On 2021-08-20 5:22 p.m., Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > > > On 2021-08-19 5:33 p.m., Brian wrote: >> On Thu 19 Aug 2021 at 14:45:16 -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On 2021-08-19 2:18 p.m., Thomas Schmitt wrote: Hi, Steve McIntyre wrote:

Re: nvme SSD and poor performance

2021-08-20 Thread David Christensen
On 8/17/21 2:54 AM, Pierre Willaime wrote: > I have a nvme SSD (CAZ-82512-Q11 NVMe LITEON 512GB) on debian stable > (bulleye now). > > For a long time, I suffer poor I/O performances which slow down a lot of > tasks (apt upgrade when unpacking for example). On 8/20/21 1:50 AM, Pierre Willaime wr

Re: bullseye: systemd-networkd-wait-online timeouts

2021-08-20 Thread Jochen Spieker
Andy Smith: > On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 09:36:30PM +0200, Jochen Spieker wrote: > >> Aug 18 10:59:20 h2907737 systemd-networkd-wait-online[936688]: Event loop >> failed: Connection timed out >> Aug 18 10:59:20 h2907737 apt-helper[936686]: E: Sub-process >> /lib/systemd/systemd-networkd-wait-online

Re: Reading of release notes (was Re: Still on stretch, getting ready for bullseye)

2021-08-20 Thread songbird
piorunz wrote: ... > New install would change network interface name anyway. net.ifnames=0 works for me in that regards. songbird

Re: Re: Updating kernels impossible when /boot is getting full

2021-08-20 Thread Ilkka Huotari
> Large unneeded files can be deleted with "rm". This is what I ended up doing. The version 25 was in currently use and I rm'ed all the old version files. That worked, but I needed to do the same when version 31 appeared. Fortunately the new version will get into use so rm will work. Maybe apt-g

Re: Respect for newbies and new comers [ was : moderators, I would appreciate if you could interfere ]

2021-08-20 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
On 2021-08-19 5:33 p.m., Brian wrote: > On Thu 19 Aug 2021 at 14:45:16 -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > >> >> >> On 2021-08-19 2:18 p.m., Thomas Schmitt wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> Steve McIntyre wrote: >> This mailing list, like all >> Debian-hosted mailing lists, is subject t

Failed to detect SSD when installing Bullseye

2021-08-20 Thread Nikolay Velyurov
Hi all, I tried to install Bullseye on my MacBookAir6,1 but the SSD is not detected: ACPI: SSDT 0x8CD7E000 00010B (v01 APPLE SataAhci 1000 INTL 20100915) libata version 3.00 loaded. ahci :04:00.0: version 3.0 ahci :04:00.0: AHCI 0001. 32 slots 1 ports 6 Gbps 0x1 impl SATA

Re: Relatively boring bullseye upgrade reports

2021-08-20 Thread James B
Another for the list, Dell/WYSE Zx0 box, with AMD G-T56N cpu and 8gb flash drive.Used for offsite playback of my home media via DWService and as a gateway to my home network.Installation worked perfectly - no issues at all. -- James B portoteache...@fastmail.com Em Sex, 20 Ago ʼ21, às 10:2

Re: Still on stretch, getting ready for bullseye

2021-08-20 Thread Curt
On 2021-08-18, mick crane wrote: >> >> Not sure I see how that analogy applies. >> >> If the 'water' is the knowledge of upgrading Debian releases as present >> in the official release notes, then the chemical analysis is the advice >> on upgrading from this list? In that case, it seems the hors

Re: nvme SSD and poor performance

2021-08-20 Thread piorunz
On 20/08/2021 18:11, Marco Möller wrote: browser.sessionstore.interval Storing the session is not the only data written to the disk. If it would only be this data, then indeed setting a higher interval would be sufficient. But there is much more going on. Especially the cache seems to be a cause

Re: nvme SSD and poor performance

2021-08-20 Thread Alexander V. Makartsev
On 20.08.2021 13:50, Pierre Willaime wrote: Program are slow to start. Sometimes there is a delay when I type (letters are displayed few second after typing). Apt unpack take forewer (5 hours to unpack packages when upgrading to bulleye). That looks abnormal to me. Have you tried to update S

Re: nvme SSD and poor performance

2021-08-20 Thread Tixy
On Fri, 2021-08-20 at 17:48 +0200, Christian Britz wrote: > > Am 20.08.21 um 10:50 schrieb Pierre Willaime: > > > > I activated `# systemctl enable fstrim.timer` (thanks Linux-Fan). > > > Interesting. I am almost 100% certain that it was enabled for me by > default on bullseye. Maybe that behav

Re: Issues with Bullseye

2021-08-20 Thread Hans
Am Freitag, 20. August 2021, 18:55:44 CEST schrieb Brian: Yeah, looks like we woke a sleeping dog up. :) Best Hans > On Sun 15 Aug 2021 at 16:51:19 +0200, Hans wrote: > > Am Sonntag, 15. August 2021, 16:36:05 CEST schrieb Brian: > > Yes, you are very right! > > > > > There isn't any such thing

Re: nvme SSD and poor performance

2021-08-20 Thread Linux-Fan
Pierre Willaime writes: Thanks all. I activated `# systemctl enable fstrim.timer` (thanks Linux-Fan). You're welcome :) But I do not think my issue is trim related after all. I have always a lot of I/O activities from jdb2 even just after booting and even when the computer is doing nothi

Re: nvme SSD and poor performance

2021-08-20 Thread Marco Möller
On 20.08.21 18:22, piorunz wrote: On 17/08/2021 15:03, Marco Möller wrote: I have no experience with SSD, but running my Debian Desktop from a USB Memory Stick since years, please allow me to share information which supports the suggestion of Linux-Fan to also investigate if there is extraordina

Re: Issues with Bullseye

2021-08-20 Thread Brian
On Sun 15 Aug 2021 at 16:51:19 +0200, Hans wrote: > Am Sonntag, 15. August 2021, 16:36:05 CEST schrieb Brian: > Yes, you are very right! > > > > There isn't any such thing as being "too critical" when it comes to > > technical matters :). Other may have been listening in to us [1]. One never kno

Re: nvme SSD and poor performance

2021-08-20 Thread piorunz
On 17/08/2021 15:03, Marco Möller wrote: I have no experience with SSD, but running my Debian Desktop from a USB Memory Stick since years, please allow me to share information which supports the suggestion of Linux-Fan to also investigate if there is extraordinary I/O taking place and maybe could

Re: nvme SSD and poor performance

2021-08-20 Thread Christian Britz
Am 20.08.21 um 10:50 schrieb Pierre Willaime: I activated `# systemctl enable fstrim.timer` (thanks Linux-Fan). Interesting. I am almost 100% certain that it was enabled for me by default on bullseye. Maybe that behaviour changed during the release process. Best Regards, Christian

Re: Typical timescales for publishing binary packages in -backports?

2021-08-20 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 08:26:07PM +0100, Brian wrote: > On Thu 19 Aug 2021 at 16:16:01 +, Andy Smith wrote: > > So I was wondering what is the typical timescale for binary packages > > from the kernel source upload to appear in buster-backports? > > I do not think there is a typical t

Re: Reading of release notes (was Re: Still on stretch, getting ready for bullseye)

2021-08-20 Thread piorunz
On 20/08/2021 12:40, Greg Wooledge wrote: This line of thought probably comes from Windows, when any hardware change causes problems, drivers installation, it can refuse to boot, etc. Not a problem on Debian :) It can be. Any change to the hardware, or even the mobo firmware, can cause PCI da

Re: Buster to Bullseye upgrade problem

2021-08-20 Thread Gareth Evans
On Fri 20 Aug 2021, at 04:45, David Wright wrote: > On Thu 19 Aug 2021 at 07:42:56 (+0100), Gareth Evans wrote: > > On Thu 19 Aug 2021, at 05:50, David Wright wrote: > > > On Thu 19 Aug 2021 at 04:00:04 (+0100), Gareth Evans wrote: > > > > On Wed 18 Aug 2021, at 23:33, piorunz wrote: > > > > > O

Re: Buster to Bullseye upgrade problem

2021-08-20 Thread Gareth Evans
On Fri 20 Aug 2021, at 12:32, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 10:45:57PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > > One might assume so, but only you can check that. There are two logs > > of the upgrade. /var/log/apt/history.log (and its predecessors) shows > > the command issued, followed by

Re: Reading of release notes (was Re: Still on stretch, getting ready for bullseye)

2021-08-20 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Aug 20, 2021 at 11:55:32AM +0100, piorunz wrote: > On 19/08/2021 13:21, songbird wrote: > > when i changed motherboards i figured it was worth a fresh > > install > > This line of thought probably comes from Windows, when any hardware > change causes problems, drivers installation, it can

Re: Buster to Bullseye upgrade problem

2021-08-20 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 10:45:57PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > One might assume so, but only you can check that. There are two logs > of the upgrade. /var/log/apt/history.log (and its predecessors) shows > the command issued, followed by the packages affected, with the old > and new version number

Re: Reading of release notes (was Re: Still on stretch, getting ready for bullseye)

2021-08-20 Thread piorunz
On 19/08/2021 13:21, songbird wrote: when i changed motherboards i figured it was worth a fresh install This line of thought probably comes from Windows, when any hardware change causes problems, drivers installation, it can refuse to boot, etc. Not a problem on Debian :) Motherboard or even C

Re: Pipewire for multiple users

2021-08-20 Thread Lucio Crusca
Il 19/08/21 23:48, martin f krafft ha scritto: Pulse and systemd need a dbus session, and |su| will not get you that. If you want to use either, you need to ensure that you're properly logged in as the user, or configure your system to set up the dbus session accordingly. > > An easy way to do

Re: Relatively boring bullseye upgrade reports

2021-08-20 Thread Reco
hc2: Samsung Exsynos 5422-based board, Odroid HC2 Currently stores backups. Nothing to report, the upgrade went smoothly. Reco

Re: Reading of release notes (was Re: Still on stretch, getting ready for bullseye)

2021-08-20 Thread Anssi Saari
songbird writes: > Anssi Saari wrote: > ... >> And yes, the working upgrades are the reason I've stuck with Debian >> since Hamm. My ever evolving desktop computer is on its second >> installation now since I reinstalled when I switched to 64-bits >> somewhere in the decade before last. > when

Re: nvme SSD and poor performance

2021-08-20 Thread Pierre Willaime
Thanks all. I activated `# systemctl enable fstrim.timer` (thanks Linux-Fan). But I do not think my issue is trim related after all. I have always a lot of I/O activities from jdb2 even just after booting and even when the computer is doing nothing for hours. Here is an extended log of ioto

Re: Relatively boring bullseye upgrade reports

2021-08-20 Thread Reco
Hi. Let me join the party, I hope I'm not late. caiman: Marvell Armada 385-based router, Linksys WRT1200AC. Currently used as unmanaged switch. My only gripe with the upgrade was snmpd. Bullseye's version reordered just about everything in snmpd.conf. Reco

Re: bbc script

2021-08-20 Thread tomas
On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 08:56:22PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Thu, 19 Aug 2021, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > Also relevant: https://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ/115 Great explanation, Greg. I wish I had half of your talent :) One small addendum: the "predefined strings" in the case statement