On Fri, Aug 06, 2021 at 10:52:51AM +1000, David wrote:
[...]
> I was commenting on how I have always been puzzled why
> someone made the effort to give 'chmod' an '-R' option, but
> never made it actually useful for common cases. As it is,
> it seems that it's really only useful for modifying the
On Thu, Aug 05, 2021 at 04:55:51PM -0400, lou wrote:
> tomas, thunderbird is working now
Thanks, glad to hear it :)
Cheers
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ellanios82 wrote:
> - is there a way to send an SMS to a mobile phone, from Thunderbird ?
yes, just attach a SIM card to it (jokingly)
Good Day, List !
- is there a way to send an SMS to a mobile phone, from Thunderbird ?
Thanks vm
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> And I'm using fvwm with systemd.
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On Fri, 6 Aug 2021 at 13:06, David Wright wrote:
> On Fri 06 Aug 2021 at 09:30:17 (+1000), David wrote:
> > 'chmod -R' is less useful because it does not discriminate
> > between files and directories, I never understood why it
> > does not offer that option, because usually we need all file
> >
On Fri 06 Aug 2021 at 09:30:17 (+1000), David wrote:
> On Fri, 6 Aug 2021 at 06:03, Gary L. Roach wrote:
>
> > Second, why am I separating out the Path the way I am doing? I need to
> > check each level for existence then, if the level doesn't exist, create
> > the directory, cd to the directory,
On Thu, Aug 05, 2021 at 09:47:04PM -0400, The Wanderer wrote:
> I believe I've hit contexts in which I could use '-print0 | xargs -0'
> but couldn't figure out a way to get the job done with '-exec', because
> I needed the command which was being run to process the output to be a
> pipeline. (I no
On 2021-08-05 at 20:25, Greg Wooledge wrote:
>> >> find . -type d -exec chmod -v 0644 '{}' \;
>
>> > Use + instead of \; to make them more efficient.
>
>> What does + make as a difference ?
>
> It's a replacement for xargs, except that it actually works, unlike
> xargs, which is horribly broken
On Fri, 6 Aug 2021 at 10:58, Christian Groessler wrote:
> On 8/6/21 2:52 AM, David wrote:
> > I was commenting on how I have always been puzzled why
> > someone made the effort to give 'chmod' an '-R' option, but
> > never made it actually useful for common cases. As it is,
> > it seems that it's
On Fri, Aug 06, 2021 at 02:58:00AM +0200, Christian Groessler wrote:
> On 8/6/21 2:52 AM, David wrote:
> > I was commenting on how I have always been puzzled why
> > someone made the effort to give 'chmod' an '-R' option, but
> > never made it actually useful for common cases. As it is,
> > it seem
On 8/6/21 2:52 AM, David wrote:
I was commenting on how I have always been puzzled why
someone made the effort to give 'chmod' an '-R' option, but
never made it actually useful for common cases. As it is,
it seems that it's really only useful for modifying the write attribute.
Hmm. "chmod -R go
On Fri, 6 Aug 2021 at 10:01, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
wrote:
> On 2021-08-05 7:30 p.m., David wrote:
> > On Fri, 6 Aug 2021 at 06:03, Gary L. Roach wrote:
> > 'chmod -R' is less useful because it does not discriminate
> > between files and directories, I never understood why it
> > does n
On 8/6/21 2:01 AM, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote:
find . -type d -exec chmod -v 0644 '{}' \;
to change the folder
find . -type f -exec chmod -v 0755 '{}' \;
to change files
Pah. Use 'xargs' :-)
$ find . -type f -print0 | xargs -0 chmod 644
$ find . -type d -print0 | xargs -0 chmod
> >> find . -type d -exec chmod -v 0644 '{}' \;
> > Use + instead of \; to make them more efficient.
> What does + make as a difference ?
It's a replacement for xargs, except that it actually works, unlike
xargs, which is horribly broken without GNU extensions.
find . -type d -exec chmod 755 {}
Hi,
On 2021-08-05 8:07 p.m., Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 05, 2021 at 08:01:22PM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
> wrote:
>> find . -type d -exec chmod -v 0644 '{}' \;
>>
>> to change the folder
>>
>> find . -type f -exec chmod -v 0755 '{}' \;
>>
>> to change files
>
> You've switch
On Thu, Aug 05, 2021 at 08:01:22PM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote:
> find . -type d -exec chmod -v 0644 '{}' \;
>
> to change the folder
>
> find . -type f -exec chmod -v 0755 '{}' \;
>
> to change files
You've switched the permissions around. You want 644 on the files, and
755 o
Hi,
On 2021-08-05 7:30 p.m., David wrote:
> On Fri, 6 Aug 2021 at 06:03, Gary L. Roach wrote:
>
>> Second, why am I separating out the Path the way I am doing? I need to
>> check each level for existence then, if the level doesn't exist, create
>> the directory, cd to the directory, set chown an
On Fri, 6 Aug 2021 at 06:03, Gary L. Roach wrote:
> Second, why am I separating out the Path the way I am doing? I need to
> check each level for existence then, if the level doesn't exist, create
> the directory, cd to the directory, set chown and -x chmod. After that
> check the next level and
On Wed, Aug 4, 2021 at 18:58 Gary L. Roach wrote:
> Hi all;
> I have just recently delved into the magical world of Bash scripting and
I long ago gave up bash scripting for other than simple scripts, even for
sysadmin chores.
Most Linux distros, including our favorite Debian, come with Perl in
Hi,
On 2021-08-05 3:01 p.m., Gunnar Gervin wrote:
> My experience of life is if I criticise someone usually it's in me;
> mirroring myself; projecting.
> Something I need improve on(?).
> I got an advice that might work:
> Go to Devuan with it; Debian simplified? If it works, ok for me.
Devuan is
tomas, thunderbird is working now
On Thu, Aug 05, 2021 at 01:03:16PM -0700, Gary L. Roach wrote:
> First, the IFS command sets the string separator. The default values are
> space /n and one other. The / is not among them.
Yes, we know that. The issue is that you are setting IFS for the
whole script, when you probably *should* be
hi all;
I really appreciate all of your help. The file now works. See attached.
Now t0 answer some questions.
First, the IFS command sets the string separator. The default values are
space /n and one other. The / is not among them. If I don't set the
delimiter before I do the read, the whol
Hi Brian,
Some of the people who have received temporary bans have then come back and
been relatively well behaved thereafter. As a member of the Debian Community
team, I'm certain that the listmasters have banned people for short periods
in the past. Rather than being judgmental or jumping to c
On Thu, Aug 05, 2021 at 07:35:55PM +0100, Brian wrote:
[...]
> > Listmasters' discretion is always the final arbiter.
>
> Indeed. They apply the lump hammer.
Always assuming the best ;-/
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On Wed 04 Aug 2021 at 23:30:45 +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 04, 2021 at 11:43:26PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> > On Wed 04 Aug 2021 at 22:01:18 +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> >
> > > Problems?
> > > =
> > >
> > > Complaints about inappropriate behaviour should be referred t
On Wed 04 Aug 2021 at 21:21:33 -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote:
[...]
> > The objective of Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside appears to be to put
> > the user in his place.
> >
> Strangely, I got many thanks from this user, when I explained to him
> about the fact that "top posting" d
On 05.08.21 15:28, Marco Möller wrote:
Hello! Do you have bad experience using Thunderbird as an IRC client for
IRC in the OFTC network? In the past I used HexChat, now running KDE
Plasma I am considering Konversation to be an option, but as I anyway
use Thunderbird for email, maybe I simply us
Hi,
On 2021-08-05 8:44 a.m., Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 05, 2021 at 01:49:50PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
>> FWIW: my laptop runs wth SysV init, no Gnome (actually no desktop
>> environment), but with X and a window manager (Fvwm). It's not
>> always "obvious", but it is definitely doa
On Thu, Aug 05, 2021 at 03:28:44PM +0200, Marco Möller wrote:
> Hello! Do you have bad experience using Thunderbird as an IRC client for IRC
> in the OFTC network? In the past I used HexChat, now running KDE Plasma I am
> considering Konversation to be an option, but as I anyway use Thunderbird
> f
On 05/08/2021 04:48, Gunnar Gervin wrote:
Thx all.
Problem solved;
to your orientation.
Most other challenges are
possible to find in Duckduckgo or Google, & in former answers.
I was in lack of sleep cos of heat
Thus a bit manic; flooding, sorry.
& didn't see the importance of culture, rules, def
Hi,
The Wanderer wrote:
> It might be worth filing a documentation-level kernel bug report about
> this, or at least posting to the LKML to ask what the reasoning here is.
... together with a handful of sr and isofs bug fixes, if this was an
ideal world. {:)
I wrote:
> > (Wasn't there a way to
At various times, people on this list have talked about optimal
price/performance desktop systems intended to run Debian.
The AMD Ryzen 5600G is now out; the first price I saw for it was
$265 US including shipping.
It's a 6 core, 12 thread CPU + AMD GPU suitable for the vast
majority of non-ga
On 2021-08-05 at 09:04, Thomas Schmitt wrote:
> Hi,
>
>> Can someone tell me where I should look for the kernel for the
>> loopback setting?
>
> Quite exactly a year ago i learned the hard way that it's
> CONFIG_BLK_DEV_LOOP which on amd64 should be set to "m" to get /dev/loop*.
> See its descri
Hello! Do you have bad experience using Thunderbird as an IRC client for
IRC in the OFTC network? In the past I used HexChat, now running KDE
Plasma I am considering Konversation to be an option, but as I anyway
use Thunderbird for email, maybe I simply use Thunderbird also for IRC?
Thanks for
Hi,
> Can someone tell me where I should look for the kernel for the
> loopback setting?
Quite exactly a year ago i learned the hard way that it's
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_LOOP which on amd64 should be set to "m" to get /dev/loop*.
See its description at
https://sources.debian.org/src/linux/5.10.46-1/dri
On Thu, Aug 05, 2021 at 08:32:39AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 05, 2021 at 01:59:06PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > On Thu, Aug 05, 2021 at 07:19:11AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > > The external versions of test and [ need to exist for POSIX conformance,
> > > and also so that
On Thu, Aug 05, 2021 at 01:49:50PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> FWIW: my laptop runs wth SysV init, no Gnome (actually no desktop
> environment), but with X and a window manager (Fvwm). It's not
> always "obvious", but it is definitely doable. Debian's happy.
And I'm using fvwm with systemd.
On Thu, Aug 05, 2021 at 01:59:06PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 05, 2021 at 07:19:11AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > The external versions of test and [ need to exist for POSIX conformance,
> > and also so that you can -exec them from find(1) or other similar
> > programs.
>
> I
On Wed, Aug 04, 2021 at 08:47:30PM -0700, Gary L. Roach wrote:
> Thanks for the help but I still have the problem of the if statement always
> being true. This time I enclosed the file so you can test it.
You didn't make the changes that I told you to make yesterday. But
this has already been cov
On Thu, Aug 05, 2021 at 04:36:59AM -0700, Colin Williams wrote:
> I'm running bullseye / debian 11.0 testing. I have been running a
> script that is supposed to write a filesystem image (for chromiumOS).
> In short I'm getting the following
>
> losetup: cannot find an unused loop device
> partx: s
On Thu, Aug 05, 2021 at 07:19:11AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 05, 2021 at 10:07:12AM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > [1] Nowadays this is a little white lie: most shells have them
> >as builtins, but they are supposed to behave like regular
> >programs, for compat. There /
On Thu, Aug 05, 2021 at 10:38:47AM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 05, 2021 at 09:26:35AM +0100, Tixy wrote:
> > ; has no special meaning inside "". The expression is true because
> > there is only a single non-null argument between the [ ]
Precisely. But you're probably not explaini
I'm running bullseye / debian 11.0 testing. I have been running a
script that is supposed to write a filesystem image (for chromiumOS).
In short I'm getting the following
losetup: cannot find an unused loop device
partx: stat of failed: No such file or directory
partx: stat of failed: No such fi
On Thu, Aug 05, 2021 at 06:34:18AM -0400, lou wrote:
> Thank didier and tomas! i've set up thunderbird
>
> when i receive mail, thunderbird prompts me for password, i enter
> 16-char-long code, password used in their web-based mail isn't used
I think I din't understand you: is thunderbird working
On Thu, Aug 05, 2021 at 06:10:01AM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 2021-08-05 4:06 a.m., Gunnar Gervin wrote:
> > Steve.
> > At least Debian works better in this old Mac best of all else I've
> > tried. Debian is very instructive, which in itself is an argument to use
>
On Thu, Aug 05, 2021 at 10:07:12AM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> [1] Nowadays this is a little white lie: most shells have them
>as builtins, but they are supposed to behave like regular
>programs, for compat. There /is/ a /bin/test, but I can't
>find a /bin/[ on my system anymore.
Am 05.08.2021 um 12:34 schrieb lou:
Thank didier and tomas! i've set up thunderbird
when i receive mail, thunderbird prompts me for password, i enter
16-char-long code, password used in their web-based mail isn't used
Take a look in "Settings" and there for Master-Password ..
Thank didier and tomas! i've set up thunderbird
when i receive mail, thunderbird prompts me for password, i enter
16-char-long code, password used in their web-based mail isn't used
Hi,
On 2021-08-05 4:31 a.m., Gunnar Gervin wrote:
> How do I change keyboard in Xfce desktop?
>
> History/what I did:
>
> Chosen keyboard (in setup during installation process)
> disappeared/changed into a keyboard without keys: " @ $ € "
>
> Maybe it happened because I chose
> " i686 pae " (
Hi,
On 2021-08-05 3:48 a.m., Gunnar Gervin wrote:
> Thx all.
> Problem solved;
> to your orientation.
> Most other challenges are
> possible to find in Duckduckgo or Google, & in former answers.
> I was in lack of sleep cos of heat
> Thus a bit manic; flooding, sorry.
> & didn't see the importanc
Hi,
On 2021-08-05 4:06 a.m., Gunnar Gervin wrote:
> Steve.
> At least Debian works better in this old Mac best of all else I've
> tried. Debian is very instructive, which in itself is an argument to use
> it for a newbie in IT & Linux.
> BR,
> Gunnar.
> PS.
> And level of patience, respect & even
On Thu, 5 Aug 2021 10:30:42 +0300
Gunnar Gervin wrote:
> Hi again, experts.
> Please advice how fix it.
> WiFi gone.
> I used ethernet cable to reinstall Debian i386 32b Buster. Now WiFi won't
> turn on. In Xfce desktop "Advanced Network Manager" shows the WiFi
> provider, but "Save" button's gre
On Thu, Aug 05, 2021 at 11:31:42AM +0300, Gunnar Gervin wrote:
> How do I change keyboard in Xfce desktop?
>
> History/what I did:
>
> Chosen keyboard (in setup during installation process) disappeared/changed
> into a keyboard without keys: " @ $ € "
For Debian, the relevant package is `keyboar
On 2021-08-05 09:31, Gunnar Gervin wrote:
How do I change keyboard in Xfce desktop?
this looks to cover it.
https://wiki.debian.org/Keyboard
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On Thu, Aug 05, 2021 at 09:26:35AM +0100, Tixy wrote:
> On Thu, 2021-08-05 at 10:36 +0300, Anssi Saari wrote:
> [...]
> >
> > [ A="0 ; " ]
> >
> > is always true. It seems it probably has something to do with expansion,
> > quoting and the special meaning of ;.
> >
>
> ; has no special meaning
How do I change keyboard in Xfce desktop?
History/what I did:
Chosen keyboard (in setup during installation process) disappeared/changed
into a keyboard without keys: " @ $ € "
Maybe it happened because I chose
" i686 pae " (or similar name)
under "advanced" (option 2) in start-up of the machin
On Thu, 2021-08-05 at 10:36 +0300, Anssi Saari wrote:
[...]
>
> [ A="0 ; " ]
>
> is always true. It seems it probably has something to do with expansion,
> quoting and the special meaning of ;.
>
; has no special meaning inside "". The expression is true because
there is only a single non-null
On Thu, Aug 05, 2021 at 10:08:55AM +0200, didier gaumet wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> >From memory (so take it with a grain of salt), when Thunderbird asks
> for a password to access a mail server for the first time [...]
This is more or less my recollection, yes.
> I would imagine that is somewhat sim
Hello,
>From memory (so take it with a grain of salt), when Thunderbird asks
for a password to access a mail server for the first time, it proposes
to store it in order for the user to not have to enter his password
each time. But this storage is not mandatory. If the user choses to
enter his pa
On Wed, Aug 04, 2021 at 08:47:30PM -0700, Gary L. Roach wrote:
> Thanks for the help but I still have the problem of the if statement
> always being true. This time I enclosed the file so you can test it.
Please, don't top quote. It confuses the hell out of me.
Now, I think in your script
if t
Steve.
At least Debian works better in this old Mac best of all else I've tried.
Debian is very instructive, which in itself is an argument to use it for a
newbie in IT & Linux.
BR,
Gunnar.
PS.
And level of patience, respect & even humility is a bit higher here than
the smaller, also quick response
Steve,
Thx for the tip.
I'll test Devuan a bit later;
so far it looks all doable in Debian i386 Xfce i686 pae chosen (under
"Advanced" in startup) with some Gnome packages added. Cos I must work,
too, with what I have now.
I am grateful a 14 year old Mac can work as good as this does; looking
good,
Thx all.
Problem solved;
to your orientation.
Most other challenges are
possible to find in Duckduckgo or Google, & in former answers.
I was in lack of sleep cos of heat
Thus a bit manic; flooding, sorry.
& didn't see the importance of culture, rules, definition of issue, &
similar; I'm quite self-
"Gary L. Roach" writes:
> Hi all;
>
> I have just recently delved into the magical world of Bash scripting
> and programmed up the following script(not finished). The object is to
> parse the Path and check for the existence of each directory. Please
> don't send back an Awk or Sed statement that
Hi again, experts.
Please advice how fix it.
WiFi gone.
I used ethernet cable to reinstall Debian i386 32b Buster. Now WiFi won't
turn on. In Xfce desktop "Advanced Network Manager" shows the WiFi
provider, but "Save" button's grey passive; not possible to turn on.
Installed B.a.t.m.a.n another man
On Thu, Aug 05, 2021 at 07:38:44AM +0800, loushanguan2...@sina.com wrote:
> mail provider gives me 16-character-long authorization code for smtp
> server(something like 77c93457b12ab54a)i can't enter it in thunderbird
>
> in Account Settings/Outgoing Sever dialogPort should be 587which shall
On Wed, Aug 04, 2021 at 09:21:33PM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 2021-08-04 3:19 p.m., Brian wrote:
> > On Wed 04 Aug 2021 at 20:48:50 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> >
> > The previous remark about following all the different messages from
> > -user is insulting, ne
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