Re: Persistent names for audio devices.

Hi. On Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 08:20:16PM -0700, pe...@easthope.ca wrote: > From: Reco , Sun, 20 Oct 2019 20:57:52 +0300 > > So, does it work? > > Got sound from the Intel device on the system board. Oddly enough > there was a plastic cover over the sockets on the chassis back. Pried > i

Re: bash syntax

* 2021-07-29 21:16:26+0100, mick crane wrote: >4 ((ct++)) >5 scanimage > /home/mick/DATA/SCANS/scan-$ct.pnm Items 4 and 5 could be combined using $((++ct)): scanimage > /home/mick/DATA/SCANS/scan-$((++ct)).pnm > What's the thing with the ct being in double brackets and not having >

32b upgrade to 64 b; Boot.plist

Hi beautiful ideals! Decided to install Virtual Machine & Docker in this 14 year old ex-Macbook. In which I installed Debian "Buster" i386 32 bits. As some of you know, I did some failures during installation, the dvd player "hung" a bit several times, so I saw it installing at least 3 times. I mad

Re: Persistent names for audio devices.

From: Reco , Sun, 20 Oct 2019 20:57:52 +0300 > So, does it work? Got sound from the Intel device on the system board. Oddly enough there was a plastic cover over the sockets on the chassis back. Pried it off to plug the speaker jack. Here is some further info. Read https://wiki.debian.org/

Re: bash syntax

On Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 07:38:07PM -0400, kamaraju kusumanchi wrote: > On Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 4:23 PM Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > On Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 09:16:26PM +0100, mick crane wrote: > > > 4 ((ct++)) > > > > > What's the thing with the ct being in double brackets and not having the > >

Re: bash syntax

On Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 4:23 PM Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 09:16:26PM +0100, mick crane wrote: > > 4 ((ct++)) > > > What's the thing with the ct being in double brackets and not having the "$" > > ? > > https://mywiki.wooledge.org/ArithmeticExpression > Nice wiki page, Gre

Re: bash syntax

Am 29. Jul, 2021 schwätzte mick crane so: moin moin nick, I nicked this off some guy on the internet. 1 #!/bin/bash 2 count_file="scan_count.txt" 3 ct=`cat $count_file` 4 ((ct++)) 5 scanimage > /home/mick/DATA/SCANS/scan-$ct.pnm 6 echo $ct > $count_file What's the thing with the ct being

Re: bash syntax

On Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 09:16:26PM +0100, mick crane wrote: > 4 ((ct++)) > What's the thing with the ct being in double brackets and not having the "$" > ? https://mywiki.wooledge.org/ArithmeticExpression

bash syntax

I nicked this off some guy on the internet. 1 #!/bin/bash 2 count_file="scan_count.txt" 3 ct=`cat $count_file` 4 ((ct++)) 5 scanimage > /home/mick/DATA/SCANS/scan-$ct.pnm 6 echo $ct > $count_file What's the thing with the ct being in double brackets and not having the "$" ? scan_cou

Re: suppress interactive messages at upgrade

On Thu, 29 Jul 2021 14:12:34 -0500 David Wright wrote: > I'm not addressed here, nor have I run unattended, nor used > DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive, but I would assume that > any need to restart will get logged. Seems likely. I have used unattended-upgrades. It will either handle reboots autom

Re: Debmirror

Hi, >> Yes, just copy the *Release* file. > > The "*"s were wildcards, not emphasis. > That's *confusing* >> But doing things like trained monkey doesn't go nowhere. >> [ … ] First thing is understanding why, so that the >> choice I'll make … > > Sure. It generally behoves one to understand an

Re: Problem with crash post-install [ was: Update or reinstall ]

Hi, On 2021-07-29 3:13 p.m., David Wright wrote: > > I realise that we're not all receiving posts from Gunnar, but do we > actually know what the "update problem" is? > > I recall: > https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2021/07/msg01003.html > Is this the origin of the system under discussion?

Re: Please help to test latest Debian 11 release candidate on real hardware

On Thu 29 Jul 2021 at 12:54:14 (+0300), Anssi Saari wrote: > Andrey Ponomarenko writes: > > > LiveCDs for quick testing: > > https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-live-builds/amd64/iso-hybrid/ > > Well, are these images bootable via Grub directly and if so then what > parameters are needed?

Re: Debmirror

On Thu 29 Jul 2021 at 04:12:47 (-0400), Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > On 2021-07-29 12:58 a.m., David Wright wrote: > > On Sun 25 Jul 2021 at 09:37:14 (-0400), Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside > > wrote: > >>> On Sun, 25 Jul 2021, 04:41 Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > >>> On

Re: Problem with crash post-install [ was: Update or reinstall ]

On Thu 29 Jul 2021 at 18:09:51 (+0200), Marco Möller wrote: > On 29.07.21 12:52, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > > I'm really asking why do it 3 time. > > In case it came back to the prompt *before* finishing to do it's job ? > > (...) > Misunderstanding: I wanted to suggest to run a "sudo

Re: suppress interactive messages at upgrade

On Thu 29 Jul 2021 at 19:53:37 (+0200), Hans wrote: > Hi Dan, Hi Ian, > > I thought about unattended-upgraded, but this is not what really want. My > intention is more, to update using a script with apt and using "-y" tags. > This > is working well, instead of these two little issues. One I cou

Re: Update or reinstall

On Thu 29 Jul 2021 at 04:16:39 (-0400), Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > On 2021-07-29 12:58 a.m., David Wright wrote: > > On Wed 28 Jul 2021 at 17:25:09 (-0400), Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside > > wrote: > >> On 2021-07-28 3:16 p.m., Gunnar Gervin wrote: > >>> It is a Toshiba 160 gb hd i

Re: suppress interactive messages at upgrade

Hi Dan, Hi Ian, I thought about unattended-upgraded, but this is not what really want. My intention is more, to update using a script with apt and using "-y" tags. This is working well, instead of these two little issues. One I could solve meanwhile (ncurses question with needrestart), the othe

Re: suppress interactive messages at upgrade

On Thu, 2021-07-29 at 20:25 +0300, IL Ka wrote: > > > > is there a more clever way than running aptitude/apt-get with the > > tags "-yq", > > when I want to suppress interactive messages at upgrade? > > > > > > try  > sudo DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive apt-get -yq install [packagename] > I

Re: suppress interactive messages at upgrade

> > > is there a more clever way than running aptitude/apt-get with the tags > "-yq", > when I want to suppress interactive messages at upgrade? > > try sudo DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive apt-get -yq install [packagename]

Re: suppress interactive messages at upgrade

Hans wrote: > Hi folks, > > is there a more clever way than running aptitude/apt-get with the tags "-yq", > when I want to suppress interactive messages at upgrade? > > (The problem: I still get an ncurses warning, that the actual kernel got > updated and the old video module (it is the nvidia

suppress interactive messages at upgrade

Hi folks, is there a more clever way than running aptitude/apt-get with the tags "-yq", when I want to suppress interactive messages at upgrade? (The problem: I still get an ncurses warning, that the actual kernel got updated and the old video module (it is the nvidia kernel module) is still l

Re: sync sync, was Re: Problem with crash post-install

Hi, On 2021-07-29 7:35 a.m., Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > to...@tuxteam.de wrote: >>> While I've read about issuing sync *twice* with the explanation >>> that sysadmins are a supersticious bunch > > Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: >> I'm really asking why do it 3 time. >> In case it ca

Re: Problem with crash post-install [ was: Update or reinstall ]

On 29.07.21 12:52, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: Hi, On 2021-07-29 6:48 a.m., to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 12:29:16PM +0200, Marco Möller wrote: On 29.07.21 10:25, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: Hi, (...) Gunnar ( Gunnar Gervin ) is having problem with h

Re: Problem with crash post-install [ was: Update or reinstall ]

Dan Ritter wrote: ... > There are situations in which it can take much longer than a few > seconds. They require a large amount of data to write and a slow > storage mechanism. > > Specific example: recursive copying of music files to my USB-2 > attached music player, which has an actual write spee

Re: Problem with crash post-install [ was: Update or reinstall ]

Greg Wooledge wrote: > which says: > > On Linux, sync is only guaranteed to schedule the dirty blocks for > writing; it can actually take a short time before all the blocks are > finally written. The reboot(8) and halt(8) commands take this into > accoun

Re: Problem with crash post-install [ was: Update or reinstall ]

On Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 06:52:37AM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > As far as I know, sync doesn't work in the background ! On many systems, it does. I can't even find a clear statement in the bullseye sync(1) man page of whether it does or not. The bullseye sync(1) comes from GNU

sync sync, was Re: Problem with crash post-install

Hi, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > While I've read about issuing sync *twice* with the explanation > > that sysadmins are a supersticious bunch Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > I'm really asking why do it 3 time. > In case it came back to the prompt *before* finishing to do it's job ? I dim

Re: Problem with crash post-install [ was: Update or reinstall ]

Hi, On 2021-07-29 6:48 a.m., to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 12:29:16PM +0200, Marco Möller wrote: >> >> On 29.07.21 10:25, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: >>> Hi, >>> (...) >>> Gunnar ( Gunnar Gervin ) is having problem with >>> his laptop. >>> The system crashes post-u

Re: Problem with crash post-install [ was: Update or reinstall ]

On Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 12:29:16PM +0200, Marco Möller wrote: > > On 29.07.21 10:25, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > >Hi, > >(...) > >Gunnar ( Gunnar Gervin ) is having problem with > >his laptop. > >The system crashes post-update. > > > >He need to do clean install every time. > >And t

Re: Problem with crash post-install [ was: Update or reinstall ]

Hi, On 2021-07-29 6:29 a.m., Marco Möller wrote: > > On 29.07.21 10:25, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: >> Hi, >> (...) >> Gunnar  ( Gunnar Gervin ) is having problem with >> his laptop. >> The system crashes post-update. >> >> He need to do clean install every time. >> And this is probab

Re: Problem with crash post-install [ was: Update or reinstall ]

On 29.07.21 10:25, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: Hi, (...) Gunnar ( Gunnar Gervin ) is having problem with his laptop. The system crashes post-update. He need to do clean install every time. And this is probably time consuming for him. If other user has some hints... Without havi

Re: Please help to test latest Debian 11 release candidate on real hardware

Andrey Ponomarenko writes: > LiveCDs for quick testing: > https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-live-builds/amd64/iso-hybrid/ Well, are these images bootable via Grub directly and if so then what parameters are needed? Making testing easy eases testing...

Re: Update or reinstall

On Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 04:22:32AM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > Hi, > > On 2021-07-29 3:26 a.m., Gunnar Gervin wrote: > > A bottle in ocean, thx, poetic.. > > > It make it easier for other to read if you post your answer thru the reply. [...] > As I got told many time, "Pleas

Re: Debmirror

On Wed, Jul 28, 2021 at 06:11:25AM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: On 2021-07-27 10:45 a.m., Gunnar Gervin wrote: Just a Linux advice/s I read 10years ago + -. Time goes by and things change. Advice from 10 years ago can even be bad when applied today. This messages is threaded

Problem with crash post-install [ was: Update or reinstall ]

Hi, On 2021-07-29 3:25 a.m., Gunnar Gervin wrote: > The *link* is your request of it. > Geg > > On Thu, 29 Jul 2021, 00:25 Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside, > mailto:deb...@polynamaude.com>> wrote: > > Hi, > > On 2021-07-28 3:16 p.m., Gunnar Gervin wrote: > > It is a Toshiba 160 gb h

Re: Update or reinstall

Hi, On 2021-07-29 3:26 a.m., Gunnar Gervin wrote: > A bottle in ocean, thx, poetic.. > It make it easier for other to read if you post your answer thru the reply. When you just answer in the top of the message, it gets hard to see where it applies, even more if there's more than one question in

Re: Update or reinstall

Hi, On 2021-07-29 12:58 a.m., David Wright wrote: > On Wed 28 Jul 2021 at 17:25:09 (-0400), Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: >> On 2021-07-28 3:16 p.m., Gunnar Gervin wrote: >>> It is a Toshiba 160 gb hd in a 14 years old Macbook i386 ❤️/x86 32 b >>> booting from Bios not uefi. I'll give ful

Re: Debmirror

Hi David, On 2021-07-29 12:58 a.m., David Wright wrote: > On Sun 25 Jul 2021 at 09:37:14 (-0400), Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: >>> On Sun, 25 Jul 2021, 04:41 Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: >>> On 2021-07-24 9:33 p.m., David Wright wrote: >>> > On Sat 24 Jul 2021 at 19:52:

Re: how best to do

On Wednesday 28 July 2021 23:32:11 Keith Bainbridge wrote: > On 29/7/21 02:30, Dan Ritter wrote: > > and mount where you will. > > G'day Gene > > I make back-up disks at fstab options > noauto,noexec > > and mount/unmount as part of the cron script. makes them 'less > visible' to an uninvited vis