Re: Upgrade problems?

2021-07-21 Thread Cindy Sue Causey
Adding this up here as a quick read: If this was installation via debs, I'm out of the conversation. If it was about untarring [zipped files] and you can repeatedly reproduce the issue now that you have seen this, PLEASE don't share the package name(s) publicly. They could be... dissected and then

Re: Upgrade problems?

2021-07-21 Thread Cindy Sue Causey
On 7/21/21, Tixy wrote: > On Wed, 2021-07-21 at 12:04 -0400, Frank McCormick wrote: >> On 2021-07-21 10:52 a.m., Kushal Kumaran wrote: >> >> frank@fedora ~$ stat / >>File: / >>Size: 4096Blocks: 8 IO Block: 4096 directory >> Device: 806h/2054d Inode: 2 Li

Re: where can i find a list of wireless adapter that debian support

2021-07-21 Thread loushanguan2015
Thank Georgi! the tricky part of my search for ideal adapter(needn't non-free firmware) isthat many vendors claim they support linux, but i'm afraid they require non-free firmware is there some easy way to find out if it requires non-free firmware?

Re: MDs & Dentists

2021-07-21 Thread Stefan Monnier
Thomas Schmitt [2021-07-21 20:11:15] wrote: > Stefan Monnier wrote: >> Plain old HDDs and SSDs also work for "immutable" backups: just don't >> keep them connected to the host after you've done the backup. > But how do you keep the system from messing them up during the first > backup after the mal

Re: virtual package names for web browsers (was Re: Uninstalling Chromium)

2021-07-21 Thread mick crane
On 2021-07-21 12:05, Reco wrote: As always, any attempt on improving Debian is welcome, regardless of the outcome. It's not like Debian needs an improvement IMO, but nevertheless. Personally I liked it when it was files and documentation. The internet distribution of things is obviously handy

Re: MDs & Dentists

2021-07-21 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Stefan Monnier wrote: > Of course, if the time between the moment the malware takes > control and the moment when you notice it is longer than your rotation > you might be in trouble, indeed (tho that depends on the details of how > the malware operates w.r.t removable media). With Write-Once

Re: MDs & Dentists

2021-07-21 Thread Stefan Monnier
Thomas Schmitt [2021-07-21 19:00:48] wrote: > James H. H. Lampert wrote: >> "Immutable backups." Interesting concept. But how? Optical media? > Yes. BD-R single layer are affordable and can take 25 GB each. With some > compression you can put the whole operating system and the most important > user

Re: help: apt stuck at 0% [Waiting for headers]

2021-07-21 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Jul 21, 2021 at 03:48:08PM -0500, Michael Morgan wrote: > I need some help here. I worked in a university and have a linux (debian 9) > machine with DHCP. For some reason I needed a static IP and two weeks ago > the university sent someone who helped me set up the static IP. From what I > s

help: apt stuck at 0% [Waiting for headers]

2021-07-21 Thread Michael Morgan
Dear friends, I need some help here. I worked in a university and have a linux (debian 9) machine with DHCP. For some reason I needed a static IP and two weeks ago the university sent someone who helped me set up the static IP. From what I saw the file they modified is the "/etc/network/interfaces

Re: MDs & Dentists

2021-07-21 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
On Wed, Jul 21, 2021, 12:27 PM Reco wrote: > On Wed, Jul 21, 2021 at 09:36:37AM -0700, James H. H. Lampert wrote: > > "Immutable backups." Interesting concept. But how? > > ... > OS/400 was before my time, but I have a limited experience with z/VM > which ran at z9 mainframe about 10 years ag

Re: MDs & Dentists

2021-07-21 Thread Celejar
On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 22:00:04 +0300 Reco wrote: > On Wed, Jul 21, 2021 at 02:38:50PM -0400, Celejar wrote: ... > > Most, yes. But the pwn2own hackers, for example, seem to pretty > > routinely get RCE on the major browsers, so I wouldn't bet my data that > > ransomware authors won't as well: > >

Re: How do I mount the USB stick containing the installer in Rescue Mode?

2021-07-21 Thread Richard Hector
On 21/07/21 11:39 pm, Greg Wooledge wrote: No, a bind mount doesn't take a device name as an argument. It takes two directory names. From the man page: mount --bind|--rbind|--move olddir newdir It's used when you've already got the device mounted somewhere (the first directory), and y

Re: MDs & Dentists

2021-07-21 Thread Richard Hector
On 22/07/21 3:38 am, Reco wrote: One sure way to beat ransomware is to take immutable backups That's fine if keeping access to your data is all you care about. With the more modern ransomware that threatens to publish your (and/or your customers') data, not so much. Richard

Re: MDs & Dentists

2021-07-21 Thread Reco
On Wed, Jul 21, 2021 at 02:38:50PM -0400, Celejar wrote: > > > > > https://hacked.com/linux-ransomware-notorious-cases-and-ways-to-protect/ > > > > > > > > Requires Java to be installed. A rare case on a Linux *desktop*. > > > > > > Rare? I don't have statistics, but on one of my Linux desktops,

Re: Free LAMP VPS hosting

2021-07-21 Thread john doe
On 7/18/2021 9:36 AM, Georgi Naplatanov wrote: On 7/18/21 10:07 AM, john doe wrote: Debians, I have a LAMP configured at home but now I would like to make this LAMP publickly available to the world. As it was suggested on this list, it is not reasonable to make my LAMP available online (securi

Re: MDs & Dentists

2021-07-21 Thread Celejar
On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 18:38:30 +0300 Reco wrote: > On Wed, Jul 21, 2021 at 10:51:40AM -0400, Celejar wrote: > > On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 11:16:46 +0300 > > Reco wrote: > > > > > Hi. > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 20, 2021 at 11:32:26AM -0400, Celejar wrote: > > > > On Thu, 15 Jul 2021 09:46:59 +0300 > > >

Re: Upgrade problems?

2021-07-21 Thread Frank McCormick
On 7/21/21 12:24 PM, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Wed, Jul 21, 2021 at 12:04:13PM -0400, Frank McCormick wrote: frank@fedora ~$ stat /   File: /   Size: 4096    Blocks: 8  IO Block: 4096 directory Device: 806h/2054d  Inode: 2   Links: 18 Access: (0555/dr-xr-xr-x)  Uid

Re: MDs & Dentists

2021-07-21 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Stefan Monnier wrote: > Plain old HDDs and SSDs also work for "immutable" backups: just don't > keep them connected to the host after you've done the backup. But how do you keep the system from messing them up during the first backup after the malware took over ? Reco wrote before i asked a

Re: MDs & Dentists

2021-07-21 Thread Reco
Hi. On Wed, Jul 21, 2021 at 01:12:52PM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > Hi, > > On 2021-07-21 12:36 p.m., James H. H. Lampert wrote: > > "Immutable backups." Interesting concept. But how? Optical media? > > Enormous decks of Hollerith cards? Enormous reels of punched paper

Re: MDs & Dentists

2021-07-21 Thread Reco
On Wed, Jul 21, 2021 at 09:36:37AM -0700, James H. H. Lampert wrote: > "Immutable backups." Interesting concept. But how? In a dull enterprise world they usually used tape libraries for that. It's not popular these days, but still used here and there. "Cloud backups" are getting their share, alth

Re: Upgrade problems?

2021-07-21 Thread Kenneth Parker
On Wed, Jul 21, 2021, 12:57 PM Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Wed, Jul 21, 2021 at 12:39:49PM -0400, Kenneth Parker wrote: > > > > Access: (0555/dr-xr-xr-x) Uid: (0/root) Gid: ( 1000/ frank) > > > Actually, access 555 means everyone can Read and Execute, but nobody can > > Update. > > > > R

Re: MDs & Dentists

2021-07-21 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
Hi, On 2021-07-21 12:36 p.m., James H. H. Lampert wrote: > "Immutable backups." Interesting concept. But how? Optical media? > Enormous decks of Hollerith cards? Enormous reels of punched paper tape? > There's only one real type of very effective immutable backup : Stone, Pick and Hammer And

Re: MDs & Dentists

2021-07-21 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, James H. H. Lampert wrote: > "Immutable backups." Interesting concept. But how? Optical media? Yes. BD-R single layer are affordable and can take 25 GB each. With some compression you can put the whole operating system and the most important user data onto a single medium. BD-R is also usabl

Re: Upgrade problems?

2021-07-21 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Jul 21, 2021 at 12:39:49PM -0400, Kenneth Parker wrote: > > Access: (0555/dr-xr-xr-x) Uid: (0/root) Gid: ( 1000/ frank) > Actually, access 555 means everyone can Read and Execute, but nobody can > Update. > > Root usually overrides that, which could explain why it still works.

Re: Upgrade problems?

2021-07-21 Thread Kenneth Parker
On Wed, Jul 21, 2021, 12:12 PM Frank McCormick wrote: > On 2021-07-21 10:52 a.m., Kushal Kumaran wrote: > > > On Wed, Jul 21 2021 at 09:26:41 AM, Frank McCormick < > debianl...@videotron.ca> wrote: > >> Got a bunch of strange errors during this morning upgrade of Bullseye. > >> > >> > >> Setting

Re: Upgrade problems?

2021-07-21 Thread Tixy
On Wed, 2021-07-21 at 12:04 -0400, Frank McCormick wrote: > On 2021-07-21 10:52 a.m., Kushal Kumaran wrote: > > > On Wed, Jul 21 2021 at 09:26:41 AM, Frank McCormick > > wrote: > > > Got a bunch of strange errors during this morning upgrade of Bullseye. > > > > > > > > > Setting up systemd (24

Re: MDs & Dentists

2021-07-21 Thread James H. H. Lampert
"Immutable backups." Interesting concept. But how? Optical media? Enormous decks of Hollerith cards? Enormous reels of punched paper tape? So far as I'm aware, there is *only one* operating system currently in wide use, that has never been successfully infected with malware outside of laborato

Re: Upgrade problems?

2021-07-21 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Jul 21, 2021 at 12:04:13PM -0400, Frank McCormick wrote: > frank@fedora ~$ stat / >   File: / >   Size: 4096    Blocks: 8  IO Block: 4096 directory > Device: 806h/2054d  Inode: 2   Links: 18 > Access: (0555/dr-xr-xr-x)  Uid: (    0/    root)   Gid: ( 1000/ frank)

Re: Upgrade problems?

2021-07-21 Thread Frank McCormick
On 2021-07-21 10:52 a.m., Kushal Kumaran wrote: On Wed, Jul 21 2021 at 09:26:41 AM, Frank McCormick wrote: Got a bunch of strange errors during this morning upgrade of Bullseye. Setting up systemd (247.3-6) ... Detected unsafe path transition / → /run during canonicalization of /run. Detect

Re: MDs & Dentists

2021-07-21 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
On Wed, Jul 21, 2021, 10:38 AM Reco wrote: > On Wed, Jul 21, 2021 at 10:51:40AM -0400, Celejar wrote: > > On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 11:16:46 +0300 > > Reco wrote: > > > > > > browsers are just full of vulnerabilities, > > True. Every version of Chromium and Firefox fixes at least one. > Most of said v

Re: virtual package names for web browsers (was Re: Uninstalling Chromium)

2021-07-21 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Wed, Jul 21, 2021 at 07:36:09AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: The goalposts were moved in the text that was omitted up there. "Such a role" refers to the hypothetical generic use of gnome-www-browser to act as a virtual package (replacing x-www-browser) in all contexts, not just the dependency

Re: MDs & Dentists

2021-07-21 Thread Dan Ritter
Reco wrote: > On Wed, Jul 21, 2021 at 10:51:40AM -0400, Celejar wrote: > Numbers show that I was incorrect. Let's call it "unlikely" instead of > "rare". Let the popcon graphs speak for themselves: > > https://qa.debian.org/popcon.php?package=firefox-esr > vs > https://qa.debian.org/popcon.php?pa

Re: MDs & Dentists

2021-07-21 Thread Reco
On Wed, Jul 21, 2021 at 10:51:40AM -0400, Celejar wrote: > On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 11:16:46 +0300 > Reco wrote: > > > Hi. > > > > On Tue, Jul 20, 2021 at 11:32:26AM -0400, Celejar wrote: > > > On Thu, 15 Jul 2021 09:46:59 +0300 > > > Reco wrote: > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > You cannot catch

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Re: Upgrade problems?

2021-07-21 Thread Kushal Kumaran
On Wed, Jul 21 2021 at 09:26:41 AM, Frank McCormick wrote: > Got a bunch of strange errors during this morning upgrade of Bullseye. > > > Setting up systemd (247.3-6) ... Detected unsafe path transition / → > /run during canonicalization of /run. Detected unsafe path transition > / → /run during

Re: MDs & Dentists

2021-07-21 Thread Celejar
On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 11:16:46 +0300 Reco wrote: > Hi. > > On Tue, Jul 20, 2021 at 11:32:26AM -0400, Celejar wrote: > > On Thu, 15 Jul 2021 09:46:59 +0300 > > Reco wrote: > > > > ... > > > > > You cannot catch a ransomware cryptolocker using Linux on a desktop, > > > > Of course you can,

Upgrade problems?

2021-07-21 Thread Frank McCormick
Got a bunch of strange errors during this morning upgrade of Bullseye. Setting up systemd (247.3-6) ... Detected unsafe path transition / → /run during canonicalization of /run. Detected unsafe path transition / → /run during canonicalization of /run/lock. Detected unsafe path transition /

Re: virtual package names for web browsers (was Re: Uninstalling Chromium)

2021-07-21 Thread Reco
Hi. On Wed, Jul 21, 2021 at 07:36:09AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Wed, Jul 21, 2021 at 02:05:10PM +0300, Reco wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 21, 2021 at 11:45:07AM +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > > On Wed, Jul 21, 2021 at 01:34:50PM +0300, Reco wrote: > > > > One would think that gnome-ww

Re: How do I mount the USB stick containing the installer in Rescue Mode?

2021-07-21 Thread Reco
On Wed, Jul 21, 2021 at 01:28:57PM +0200, Stella Ashburne wrote: > Hi Reco > > Thanks for your help. > > > Sent: Friday, July 16, 2021 at 5:09 AM > > From: "Reco" > > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > > Subject: Re: How do I mount the USB stick containing the installer in > > Rescue Mode? > >

Re: How do I mount the USB stick containing the installer in Rescue Mode?

2021-07-21 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Jul 21, 2021 at 01:28:57PM +0200, Stella Ashburne wrote: > Hi Reco > > Thanks for your help. > > > Sent: Friday, July 16, 2021 at 5:09 AM > > From: "Reco" > > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > > Subject: Re: How do I mount the USB stick containing the installer in > > Rescue Mode? > >

Re: virtual package names for web browsers (was Re: Uninstalling Chromium)

2021-07-21 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Jul 21, 2021 at 02:05:10PM +0300, Reco wrote: > On Wed, Jul 21, 2021 at 11:45:07AM +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 21, 2021 at 01:34:50PM +0300, Reco wrote: > > > One would think that gnome-www-browser virtual package would fit such > > > role perfectly. I mean, if GNOME DE h

Re: How do I mount the USB stick containing the installer in Rescue Mode?

2021-07-21 Thread Stella Ashburne
Hi Reco Thanks for your help. > Sent: Friday, July 16, 2021 at 5:09 AM > From: "Reco" > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: How do I mount the USB stick containing the installer in Rescue > Mode? > > > > What you actually need is to bind mount the directory with packages into > > >

Re: virtual package names for web browsers (was Re: Uninstalling Chromium)

2021-07-21 Thread Reco
On Wed, Jul 21, 2021 at 11:45:07AM +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Wed, Jul 21, 2021 at 01:34:50PM +0300, Reco wrote: > > One would think that gnome-www-browser virtual package would fit such > > role perfectly. I mean, if GNOME DE has some special requirement for a > > browser, and Debian alre

virtual package names for web browsers (was Re: Uninstalling Chromium)

2021-07-21 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Wed, Jul 21, 2021 at 01:34:50PM +0300, Reco wrote: One would think that gnome-www-browser virtual package would fit such role perfectly. I mean, if GNOME DE has some special requirement for a browser, and Debian already has such aptly named virtual package - surely it can be considered as a su

Re: Uninstalling Chromium

2021-07-21 Thread Reco
Hi. On Wed, Jul 21, 2021 at 10:38:00AM +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Tue, Jul 20, 2021 at 10:17:26PM +0200, Christian Britz wrote: > > In my case it is meta package gnome-core. It is a pity that it > > doesn't have an alternative dependency on www-browser, this would be > > satisfied

Re: Uninstalling Chromium

2021-07-21 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Tue, Jul 20, 2021 at 10:17:26PM +0200, Christian Britz wrote: In my case it is meta package gnome-core. It is a pity that it doesn't have an alternative dependency on www-browser, this would be satisfied by google-chrome-stable, which I prefer over chromium. www-browser is not required to b

Re: MDs & Dentists

2021-07-21 Thread Reco
Hi. On Tue, Jul 20, 2021 at 11:32:26AM -0400, Celejar wrote: > On Thu, 15 Jul 2021 09:46:59 +0300 > Reco wrote: > > ... > > > You cannot catch a ransomware cryptolocker using Linux on a desktop, > > Of course you can, although it's certainly much less likely than when > using Windows.