Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?)

2021-03-21 Thread Long Wind
On Monday, March 22, 2021, 2:20:20 PM GMT+8, deloptes wrote: The difference as said is, that you know what China is doing, but you do not know what USA is doing. The moment you speak out (Assange, Snowden and many many others) it is the same as China. China is bad, but the illusion of democr

Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?)

2021-03-21 Thread deloptes
Long Wind wrote: > term Chinese government is quite misleadingit's used as if it's same as > other legitimate  government, i.e. elected by people its true nature is > criminal group, as described in bill by US senator The difference as said is, that you know what China is doing, but you do not kn

Re: Cannot see update to recent linux kernel 5.10.19-1~bpo10+1 (from 5.10.13-1~bpo10+1)

2021-03-21 Thread Geoff Reidy
l0f...@tuta.io wrote: $ apt policy linux-image-5.10.0-0.bpo.3-amd64 linux-image-5.10.0-0.bpo.3-amd64:   Installed: 5.10.13-1~bpo10+1   Candidate: 5.10.13-1~bpo10+1   Version table: *** 5.10.13-1~bpo10+1 100     100 http://deb.debian.org/debian buster-backports/main amd64 Packages  

Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?)

2021-03-21 Thread Weaver
On 22-03-2021 11:20, Long Wind wrote: > deloptes wrote: > > Well, they are brain washed - in a sense they know that it is > impossible to > > stand up against and also might be not wise, because proven is the > fact > > they manage things better than neighbor India or developed Europe. > > I

Re: efibootmgr headach?

2021-03-21 Thread Morgan Read
On 21/03/2021 6:13 pm, Morgan Read wrote: > Thanks Didier, Greg & Deloptes > > Right! So, TWO problems - I might have guessed I was getting poked from > two sides at once... > 1) PureOS doesn't do UEFI - yup, that would have lost me completely - > thank you very much Didier for noticing that! > 2)

Re: WiFi Hardware not detected, during Debian NetInst Install

2021-03-21 Thread Kenneth Parker
On Sun, Mar 21, 2021, 9:24 PM Robbi Nespu wrote: > On 22/3/2021 6:27 am, Kenneth Parker wrote: > > Hello, > > > > Later this week, I will be helping a friend install Debian onto a Lenovo > > Ideapad Laptop. This will be in a Public Space with, only WiFi > available. > > > > Both his Lenovo, and

Re: WiFi Hardware not detected, during Debian NetInst Install

2021-03-21 Thread David Wright
On Sun 21 Mar 2021 at 18:27:22 (-0400), Kenneth Parker wrote: > > Later this week, I will be helping a friend install Debian onto a Lenovo > Ideapad Laptop. This will be in a Public Space with, only WiFi available. > > Both his Lenovo, and my HP Laptop have the same WiFi hardware, found via a >

Re: WiFi Hardware not detected, during Debian NetInst Install

2021-03-21 Thread Robbi Nespu
On 22/3/2021 6:27 am, Kenneth Parker wrote: Hello, Later this week, I will be helping a friend install Debian onto a Lenovo Ideapad Laptop.  This will be in a Public Space with, only WiFi available. Both his Lenovo, and my HP Laptop have the same WiFi hardware, found via a "lspci" command:

Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?)

2021-03-21 Thread Long Wind
 deloptes wrote: Well, they are brain washed - in a sense they know that it is impossible to stand up against and also might be not wise, because proven is the fact they manage things better than neighbor India or developed Europe. I wanted to avoid being criticized for praising China. can yo

Re: WiFi Hardware not detected, during Debian NetInst Install

2021-03-21 Thread David Christensen
On 3/21/21 3:27 PM, Kenneth Parker wrote: Hello, Later this week, I will be helping a friend install Debian onto a Lenovo Ideapad Laptop. This will be in a Public Space with, only WiFi available. Both his Lenovo, and my HP Laptop have the same WiFi hardware, found via a "lspci" command: Netw

Re: WiFi Hardware not detected, during Debian NetInst Install

2021-03-21 Thread Kenneth Parker
On Sun, Mar 21, 2021 at 7:05 PM Brian wrote: > On Sun 21 Mar 2021 at 18:27:22 -0400, Kenneth Parker wrote: > > [...] > > > In both cases, I used my favorite, Text / Expert Install (but also tried > > Bullseye with the "normal" Text Install). it gets to the step, to find, > > and configure the Ne

Re: WiFi Hardware not detected, during Debian NetInst Install

2021-03-21 Thread Brian
On Sun 21 Mar 2021 at 18:27:22 -0400, Kenneth Parker wrote: [...] > In both cases, I used my favorite, Text / Expert Install (but also tried > Bullseye with the "normal" Text Install). it gets to the step, to find, > and configure the Network, but only finds the Ethernet Port which, for the > pu

Re: efibootmgr headach?

2021-03-21 Thread Morgan Read
On 21/03/2021 5:30 pm, didier gaumet wrote: > Le 21/03/2021 à 11:17, Morgan Read a écrit : > [...] >> I was trying to boot from standard PureOS usb boot image.  > [...] >> 'The selected boot device failed.  Press to Continue.' > [...] > > Hint: the following page of the PureOS website seems to i

Cannot see update to recent linux kernel 5.10.19-1~bpo10+1 (from 5.10.13-1~bpo10+1)

2021-03-21 Thread l0f4r0
Hi, I'm running the following kernel: $ uname -a Linux 5.10.0-0.bpo.3-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 5.10.13-1~bpo10+1 (2021-02-11) x86_64 GNU/Linux Backports repository is configured: $ cat /etc/apt/sources.list deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ buster main contrib non-free deb-src http://deb.debian.or

WiFi Hardware not detected, during Debian NetInst Install

2021-03-21 Thread Kenneth Parker
Hello, Later this week, I will be helping a friend install Debian onto a Lenovo Ideapad Laptop. This will be in a Public Space with, only WiFi available. Both his Lenovo, and my HP Laptop have the same WiFi hardware, found via a "lspci" command: > Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co.,

Re: routing problem

2021-03-21 Thread Jeremy Ardley
On 22/3/21 5:17 am, Dan Ritter wrote: ghe2001 wrote: There are 2 computers on my LAN. I'll call one Fast and the other Slow. When I, for example, type ping www.cbs.com, Fast pings right away, Slow pauses for about 5 seconds ('time' says that). When I ping something in /etc/hosts, both sta

Re: routing problem

2021-03-21 Thread Dan Ritter
ghe2001 wrote: > There are 2 computers on my LAN. I'll call one Fast and the other Slow. > When I, for example, type ping www.cbs.com, Fast pings right away, Slow > pauses for about 5 seconds ('time' says that). When I ping something in > /etc/hosts, both start right away. On Slow, 'route'

routing problem

2021-03-21 Thread ghe2001
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Debian GNU/Linux (Buster) There are 2 computers on my LAN. I'll call one Fast and the other Slow. When I, for example, type ping www.cbs.com, Fast pings right away, Slow pauses for about 5 seconds ('time' says that). When I ping something in /e

Re: efibootmgr headach?

2021-03-21 Thread Joe
On Sun, 21 Mar 2021 19:51:26 +0100 deloptes wrote: > Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > "debian" is obviously put there by the Debian installer.  There may > > be other entries as well, which were put there by other entities. > > you are right, but OP said he left Windows months ago > The BIOS, or

Re: efibootmgr headach?

2021-03-21 Thread didier gaumet
Sorry, the link to the Fedora doc: https://blog.uncooperative.org/blog/2014/02/06/the-efi-system-partition/

Re: efibootmgr headach?

2021-03-21 Thread didier gaumet
the /EFI/BOOT subdirectory is a common standard: https://members.uefi.org/specs/esp_registry I have not retrieved the UEFI specification wich details its usage, but there is a Fedora doc that explains it a little the shim (SecureBoot) case. And I seem to recall that years ago, I needed to manu

Re: efibootmgr headach?

2021-03-21 Thread deloptes
Greg Wooledge wrote: > "debian" is obviously put there by the Debian installer.  There may > be other entries as well, which were put there by other entities. you are right, but OP said he left Windows months ago

Re: efibootmgr headach?

2021-03-21 Thread didier gaumet
Le 21/03/2021 à 11:17, Morgan Read a écrit : [...] I was trying to boot from standard PureOS usb boot image. [...] 'The selected boot device failed. Press to Continue.' [...] Hint: the following page of the PureOS website seems to indicate that PureOS is not UEFI compliant https://track

Re: efibootmgr headach?

2021-03-21 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sun, Mar 21, 2021 at 12:01:51PM +0100, deloptes wrote: > I don't know about /boot/efi/EFI/BOOT > IMO it shouldn't be there > > # ls /boot/efi/EFI/ > debian > > The directory "debian" is the entry, you see when the PC boots. "debian" is obviously put there by the Debian installer. There may b

efibootmgr headach?

2021-03-21 Thread Morgan Read
Hello Folks, (Apologies for the long post, but there's a lot of circularity to follow...) I'm finding it difficult to understand the relationship between efibootmgr, what's showing up in my F10 boot 'BIOS setup options > System Configuration > Boot Options' and what exists under /boot/efi/EFI I

Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?)

2021-03-21 Thread Joe
On Sun, 21 Mar 2021 14:33:50 +0100 deloptes wrote: > Weaver wrote: > > > > I was in China at the time, and it was far from > > `totalitarian/militant'. The people just played it smart, as they > > also did in New Zealand, which was also not > > `totalitarian/militant'. > > Well, they are b

Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?)

2021-03-21 Thread deloptes
Weaver wrote: > On 21-03-2021 20:39, deloptes wrote: >> Andrei POPESCU wrote: >> >>> In hindsight, what was meant as a joke probably came out as mocking, I >>> apologise for that. >>> >>> I'm sure you do know that the public key needs to be made available for >>> others to be able to send you enc

Re: graphic tablet

2021-03-21 Thread Kamil Jońca
Kamil Jońca writes: > I thought about HUION 1060p, but there are different opinions (for For a record: I took a risk and bought it. After putting: --8<---cut here---start->8--- Section "InputClass" Identifier "Huion on wacom" MatchIsTablet "o

Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?)

2021-03-21 Thread Weaver
On 21-03-2021 20:39, deloptes wrote: > Andrei POPESCU wrote: > >> In hindsight, what was meant as a joke probably came out as mocking, I >> apologise for that. >> >> I'm sure you do know that the public key needs to be made available for >> others to be able to send you encrypted messages. >> >> O

Re: efibootmgr headach?

2021-03-21 Thread deloptes
Morgan Read wrote: > I had a punt that 'Boot0001* Solid State Disk' /boot/efi/EFI/BOOT and > the Boot Options' menu entry 'Windows Boot Manager' might be related so > did 'efibootmgr -b 1 -B' and that removed the 'Boot Options' menu entry > 'Windows Boot Manager' but not /boot/efi/EFI/BOOT.  So, I

Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?)

2021-03-21 Thread deloptes
Andrei POPESCU wrote: > In hindsight, what was meant as a joke probably came out as mocking, I > apologise for that. > > I'm sure you do know that the public key needs to be made available for > others to be able to send you encrypted messages. > > Of course the *primary* private key should be p

Re: Bug#977358: release-notes: document how to make the rescue mode usable if no root password is set (buster)

2021-03-21 Thread Alexander V. Makartsev
On 21.03.2021 12:40, Andrei POPESCU wrote: [Bcc: debian-boot] Dear Debian-User subscribers, The Release Notes editor is asking whether this is still an issue for bullseye (i.e. if the patch to Debian Installer mentioned below was applied in the meantime). It will be a while until I get to chec

Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?)

2021-03-21 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 20 mar 21, 19:11:07, deloptes wrote: > Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > In my (not so humble) opinion, this level of security could make sense > > for a disident in a totalitarian state, less so for regular users in > > democratic country. > > > > And you disappoint me here too - you believe i

Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?)

2021-03-21 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 20 mar 21, 19:03:58, deloptes wrote: > Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > Good luck in doing public key cryptography without publishing the public > > key :) > > Andrei - you disappoint me here! In hindsight, what was meant as a joke probably came out as mocking, I apologise for that. I'm sur

Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?)

2021-03-21 Thread Weaver
On 21-03-2021 17:06, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > On Sun Mar 21 00:01:59 2021 Stefan Monnier wrote: > >>> In my (not so humble) opinion, this level of security could make >>> sense for a disident in a totalitarian state, less so for regular >>> users in democratic country. >> >> Reminds me of the sayin

Re: Bug#977358: release-notes: document how to make the rescue mode usable if no root password is set (buster)

2021-03-21 Thread Andrei POPESCU
[Bcc: debian-boot] Dear Debian-User subscribers, The Release Notes editor is asking whether this is still an issue for bullseye (i.e. if the patch to Debian Installer mentioned below was applied in the meantime). It will be a while until I get to check that. If someone can confirm either way

Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?)

2021-03-21 Thread Charlie Gibbs
On Sun Mar 21 00:01:59 2021 Stefan Monnier wrote: >> In my (not so humble) opinion, this level of security could make >> sense for a disident in a totalitarian state, less so for regular >> users in democratic country. > > Reminds me of the saying that the difference between USA and USSR was > t