Use motherboard video-out or GPU’s

I have a confusion. Actually there are two. Please help me understand this. Suppose I have a good motherboard with two GPUs installed in the PCIe slots. Now, should I connect the monitor to the motherboard video-out or should I use GPU’s output? Suppose the OS (Debian GNU/Linux in this case) is fu

Re: on the verge of shopping for new desktop hardware, recommendations?

David Wright composed on 2021-03-08 22:37 (UTC-0600): > On Sun 07 Mar 2021 at 21:37:37 (-0500), Felix Miata wrote: >> Having != connected. The extras are spares. :) > I realise that, but if your service were to become unsatisfactory, > then before you complained, you'd want to check that it's no

Re: on the verge of shopping for new desktop hardware, recommendations?

On Sun 07 Mar 2021 at 21:37:37 (-0500), Felix Miata wrote: > David Wright composed on 2021-03-07 20:01 (UTC-0600): > > On Sun 07 Mar 2021 at 20:39:12 (-0500), Felix Miata wrote: > > >> At retail level, modem-routers seem to be rather uncommon. OTOH, owning > >> your own > >> modem and router can

Re: power limiting via system controls (was: on the verge of ...

David Christensen wrote: ... > This package provides tools for accessing CPU frequency and/or governors. > > cpufrequtils thanks, haven't nosed around yet (obviously :) ). :) > This machine has an Intel Core i7-2600S processor. These are the > settings after boot: > > 2021-03-08 1

Re: power limiting via system controls (was: on the verge of ...

Dan Ritter wrote: ... > Try installing linux-cpupower and running turbostat (as root). ok, thanks! :) songbird

Re: Status update {Re: PARTIAL DIAGNOSIS of Installation problems}

Richard Owlett wrote: ... > If it's a kernel issue, I'll just wait for Debian 11. I had essentially > tried the 10.8 netinst to get instant gratification of moving from 32 to > 64 bits in one day rather than one week. certainly understandable. :) hope it works well for you! songbird

Re: on the verge of shopping for new desktop hardware, recommendations?

On 3/8/21 5:28 AM, songbird wrote: aren't there gizmos that measure the watts being drawn by clipping them around the plug that goes into the wall? AC and DC voltage and current can be measured with general-purpose electronic test equipment and custom jigs/ cables: https://www.fluke.com/

Re: MATE/Compiz

> But how do I automate that so Compiz starts every time I log in? > > Hi. I am not familiar with compiz, but here are some ideas. All modern DEs support xdg autostart spec: https://specifications.freedesktop.org/autostart-spec/autostart-spec-latest.html#startup So you can create .desktop file tha

Re: on the verge of shopping for new desktop hardware, recommendations?

On 3/8/21 11:39 AM, Dan Ritter wrote: David Christensen wrote: I built homebrew desktops using Antec tower cases and Intel desktop boards for many years. The last was based on a Sonata chassis with an included 500 W PSU. It's very easy to add/ remove drives and has low noise features -- the fo

Re: on the verge of shopping for new desktop hardware, recommendations?

David Christensen composed on 2021-03-08 13:11 (UTC-0800): >>> What model mac? >> It's a mac pro. > Marketing terms are for separating the rubes from their dollars: > "it is a mac" > "It's a mac pro" > When posting on a technical mailing list, please include the relevant > engineering identi

Re: MATE/Compiz

Glenn Holmer wrote: > I'm getting fed up with effects crashes in KDE Plasma, so I just did a test > install of Bullseye with MATE and added the Compiz packages. I've got > everything working (even windows folding up into a paper airplane and > flying away when they close), but my question is how t

MATE/Compiz

I'm getting fed up with effects crashes in KDE Plasma, so I just did a test install of Bullseye with MATE and added the Compiz packages. I've got everything working (even windows folding up into a paper airplane and flying away when they close), but my question is how to start Compiz. The Debian wi

Re: power limiting via system controls (was: on the verge of ...

On 3/8/21 8:15 AM, songbird wrote: i can overclock this CPU if i want, but i won't but is there a way to limit the power draw from the booting options or command line once i've got it up and running? This package provides tools for accessing CPU frequency and/or governors. cpufrequtils

Re: on the verge of shopping for new desktop hardware, recommendations?

On 3/7/21 7:09 PM, Dan Hitt wrote: On Sun, Mar 7, 2021 at 5:25 PM David Christensen wrote: On 3/7/21 4:45 PM, Dan Hitt wrote: On Sun, Mar 7, 2021 at 4:27 PM David Christensen < dpchr...@holgerdanske.com> wrote: On 3/7/21 4:02 PM, Dan Hitt wrote: The reason for the two networks is that

Re: on the verge of shopping for new desktop hardware, recommendations?

Tixy writes: On Mon, 2021-03-08 at 05:36 -0500, The Wanderer wrote: > On 2021-03-07 at 22:53, Felix Miata wrote: > > > Linux-Fan composed on 2021-03-08 03:35 (UTC+0100): > > > > > Wrt. power I usually start from CPU + GPU > > > > I used an online calculator > > https://www.bequiet.com/en/psucalc

Re: on the verge of shopping for new desktop hardware, recommendations?

David Christensen wrote: > I built homebrew desktops using Antec tower cases and Intel desktop boards > for many years. The last was based on a Sonata chassis with an included 500 > W PSU. It's very easy to add/ remove drives and has low noise features -- > the four internal 3.5" drive bays feat

Re: Status update {Re: PARTIAL DIAGNOSIS of Installation problems}

On 03/08/2021 10:18 AM, songbird wrote: Richard Owlett wrote: ... before chasing down this rabbit hole, see if there is an upgrade for your current kernel on the debian backports site (for your processor and distribution type). i just had an issue with a new device not being recognized and upda

Re: on the verge of shopping for new desktop hardware, recommendations?

On Mon, 2021-03-08 at 05:36 -0500, The Wanderer wrote: > On 2021-03-07 at 22:53, Felix Miata wrote: > > > Linux-Fan composed on 2021-03-08 03:35 (UTC+0100): > > > > > Wrt. power I usually start from CPU + GPU > > > > I u

Re: on the verge of shopping for new desktop hardware, recommendations?

Felix Miata writes: > Also ip a. Someday you may no longer have arp: > Well, it's been about a decade since that was written but not much has changed. One issue is, ifconfig shows only one

Re: power limiting via system controls (was: on the verge of ...

songbird wrote: > i'm probably the only person that would ask this but can > i underclock it to reduce power draw? Possibly. However, the kernel is pretty good at asking the CPU to reduce power draw when things are idle, and you should check the existing CPU stats -- it is quite likely that you

Re: on the verge of shopping for new desktop hardware, recommendations?

On Sun, Mar 7, 2021, 5:06 AM Richard Owlett wrote: > On 03/07/2021 12:48 AM, Kenneth Parker wrote: > >[snip] > > I was dragged, "kicking and screaming" to UEFI booting. But, now that > > I'm here, it's "sort of" grown on me. > > > > What helped me, a lot, is a package called Refind. It's availa

RE: on the verge of shopping for new desktop hardware, recommendations?

Hi, > On 3/7/21 7:24 PM, IL Ka wrote: >> The reason for the two networks is that my modem-router is >> electrically incompatible with one of my computers. >> >> hmm, I never heard about such things) I have. [] >> You can connect your modem-router to the ethernet switch, and connect >

Re: Status update {Re: PARTIAL DIAGNOSIS of Installation problems}

Richard Owlett wrote: ... before chasing down this rabbit hole, see if there is an upgrade for your current kernel on the debian backports site (for your processor and distribution type). i just had an issue with a new device not being recognized and updated my kernel (for stretch) and it worked

power limiting via system controls (was: on the verge of ...

Peter Ehlert wrote: > On 3/8/21 5:28 AM, songbird wrote: ... >>aren't there gizmos that measure the watts being >> drawn by clipping them around the plug that goes into >> the wall? > yes: "Kill A Watt" is one brand name, there are probably many others. I > think some can actually record the

Re: on the verge of shopping for new desktop hardware, recommendations?

On 3/8/21 5:28 AM, songbird wrote: The Wanderer wrote: ... Finding actual power consumption of a motherboard is apparently brutal.= Specs in the manuals to mine say nothing about power consumption. DDG & Google i= n 20+ minutes weren't helpful either. I've encountered the exact same pro

Re: on the verge of shopping for new desktop hardware, recommendations?

The Wanderer wrote: ... >> Finding actual power consumption of a motherboard is apparently brutal.= > Specs in >> the manuals to mine say nothing about power consumption. DDG & Google i= > n 20+ >> minutes weren't helpful either. > > I've encountered the exact same problem... aren't there gizmo

Re: on the verge of shopping for new desktop hardware, recommendations?

The Wanderer wrote: > Any power-related advice for SSDs? > > In the system I'm planning to build, I'm expecting to have something > along the lines of two M.2 SSDs (RAID-1), presumably in the NVMe 2280 > form factor you specify, and eight or more SATA SSDs in a 2.5" form > factor (RAID-6), along

Re: Sharing a scanner from a Buster system

John Boxall wrote: > On 2021-03-07 12:47 p.m., Brad Rogers wrote: > > On Sun, 7 Mar 2021 17:34:59 + > > Brian wrote: > > > > Hello Brian, > > > > > put it there because I tend to forget changes I make in /etc! In this > > > > You're using a computer; you don't /need/ to remember those chan

Re: on the verge of shopping for new desktop hardware, recommendations?

> > > In my case it was some OLD device, 10+ years old that never heard of a > Gigabit interface and actually would even work on a 10Mbit port. This > device will connect correctly on an older gigabit switch but NOT on a more > modern Gigabit switch. :-( Ethernet ports should negotiate speed, but

Re: Status update {Re: PARTIAL DIAGNOSIS of Installation problems}

On Mon, Mar 08, 2021 at 06:06:17AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 03/03/2021 09:22 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: > > I've one fine machine running i386 flavor of Debian 9.13 . > > I've wish to install 64 bit flavor on a second machine. > > debian-10.8.0-amd64-netinst.iso was successfully downloaded

Re: on the verge of shopping for new desktop hardware, recommendations?

The Wanderer writes: On 2021-03-07 at 21:35, Linux-Fan wrote: > Btw. wrt. the thread's main topic: I saw many disks being discussed. That was in a separate message, so a separate reply would have been appropriate (to preserve threading by sub-topic), but yes. Yes, sorry for that. I initially

Status update {Re: PARTIAL DIAGNOSIS of Installation problems}

On 03/03/2021 09:22 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: I've one fine machine running i386 flavor of Debian 9.13 . I've wish to install 64 bit flavor on a second machine. debian-10.8.0-amd64-netinst.iso was successfully downloaded & saved. It was copied to a USB flash drive and installation attempted. Only

Re: Help with understanding touchpad acceleration on libinput/Wayland

Hi, have a look at the arch linux wiki 'libinput' page. You might need to install the 'libinput-tools' package on Debian. Also at the end of the page is a 'Troubleshooting' section. I hope the page is helpful. On Sunday, 07 March at 18:50, Laura Smith wrote: > Hi. Day 2 of Debian for me! I'm a l

Re: on the verge of shopping for new desktop hardware, recommendations?

On 2021-03-07 at 22:53, Felix Miata wrote: > Linux-Fan composed on 2021-03-08 03:35 (UTC+0100): > >> Wrt. power I usually start from CPU + GPU > > I used an online calculator > https://www.bequiet.com/en/psucalculator

Re: on the verge of shopping for new desktop hardware, recommendations?

On 2021-03-07 at 21:35, Linux-Fan wrote: > Btw. wrt. the thread's main topic: I saw many disks being discussed. That was in a separate message, so a separate reply would have been appropriate (to preserve threading by sub-topic), but yes. > The Wanderer wrote: > >> Any power-related advice for

Re: on the verge of shopping for new desktop hardware, recommendations?

On 2021-03-07 at 21:35, Linux-Fan wrote: > Btw. wrt. the thread's main topic: I saw many disks being discussed. That was in a separate message, so a separate reply would have been appropriate (to preserve threading by sub-topic), but yes. > The Wanderer wrote: > >> Any power-related advice for

Re: on the verge of shopping for new desktop hardware, recommendations?

On 3/7/21 7:24 PM, IL Ka wrote: The reason for the two networks is that my modem-router is electrically incompatible with one of my computers. hmm, I never heard about such things) Is your electrical grounding configured correctly? In my country some old apartments do not have thir