Re: networking.service fails

Hi. On Wed, Feb 17, 2021 at 01:44:35AM +0100, Dmitry Katsubo wrote: > root@debian:~ # systemctl status networking.service ... > Process: 691 ExecStart=/sbin/ifup -a --read-environment (code=exited, > status=1/FAILURE) > Main PID: 691 (code=exited, status=1/FAILURE) ... > Any ideas wher

Re: Conflicting alternatives

> But if you're seriously figuring out how to have, say, coexisting MTAs, > and fold that back into the Debian project, then I would have thought > that tweaking the Control fields is part of the deliverable. My use-case is when the users (e.g. yours truly) have no intention of folding it back int

php-pear etc. on an Apache2 server

I'm running Buster on my local server which, among other things, I use for developing web sites before copying them onto a public host. I've recently been getting into a little php coding because there seem to a lot of sample code out there for things I want to do. Usually they work right away

Re: FileZilla / ftp / GnuTLS error connecting to sites with Testing/Bullseye

On 2021-02-13 03:02, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Vi, 12 feb 21, 17:00:41, Gary Dale wrote: Which is why I think it would be useful to have way to rollback a package when you can't fix it quickly. That way you aren't asking all the users to do it themselves and track the bug status individually. Whe

Re: Conflicting alternatives

On Tue 16 Feb 2021 at 19:19:52 (-0500), Stefan Monnier wrote: > >> I can't see any reason why it should be fundamentally hard to make > >> dpkg/apt ignore some conflict/require statements. Maybe it would take > >> a fair bit of changes to the existing code if we want to make it work > >> seamlessl

Re: Debian switchable MTA mechanism

On Wed 17 Feb 2021 at 07:49:57 (+0800), Kevin Shell wrote: > On Wed, Feb 17, 2021 at 07:47:51AM +0800, Kevin Shell wrote: > > On Wed, Feb 17, 2021 at 07:39:15AM +0800, Kevin Shell wrote: > > > On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 04:38:06PM -0600, David Wright wrote: > > > > On Tue 16 Feb 2021 at 17:48:25 (+080

Re: Debian switchable MTA mechanism

On Wed 17 Feb 2021 at 07:39:15 (+0800), Kevin Shell wrote: > On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 04:38:06PM -0600, David Wright wrote: > > On Tue 16 Feb 2021 at 17:48:25 (+0800), Kevin Shell wrote: > > > [...] > > > Isn't Debian already has a /etc/alternatives/ mechanism? > > > > AIUI all the targets of /etc

networking.service fails

Dear Debian community, I am puzzled with the following problem. When my Debian 10.8 starts, the unit "networking.service" is marked as failed with the following reason: root@debian:~ # systemctl status networking.service *— networking.service - Raise network interfaces Loaded: loaded (/lib/s

Re: awstats, how to see in a browser?

On Tuesday 16 February 2021 15:54:12 Thomas Pircher wrote: > Gene Heskett wrote: > >I finally got around to changing awstats.conf to look at the httpd > > logs since the apache2 logs haven't been used in a while, but 2 > > changes in browsers has lost the localhost link to see what it is > > spitt

Re: Conflicting alternatives

>> I can't see any reason why it should be fundamentally hard to make >> dpkg/apt ignore some conflict/require statements. Maybe it would take >> a fair bit of changes to the existing code if we want to make it work >> seamlessly (or maybe not, I don't know), but if so, it's only because >> the co

Re: Debian switchable MTA mechanism

On Wed, Feb 17, 2021 at 07:47:51AM +0800, Kevin Shell wrote: > On Wed, Feb 17, 2021 at 07:39:15AM +0800, Kevin Shell wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 04:38:06PM -0600, David Wright wrote: > > > On Tue 16 Feb 2021 at 17:48:25 (+0800), Kevin Shell wrote: > > > > > [...] > > > > Isn't Debian alread

Re: Debian switchable MTA mechanism

On Wed, Feb 17, 2021 at 07:39:15AM +0800, Kevin Shell wrote: > On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 04:38:06PM -0600, David Wright wrote: > > On Tue 16 Feb 2021 at 17:48:25 (+0800), Kevin Shell wrote: > > > [...] > > > Isn't Debian already has a /etc/alternatives/ mechanism? > > > > AIUI all the targets of /e

Re: Debian switchable MTA mechanism

On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 04:38:06PM -0600, David Wright wrote: > On Tue 16 Feb 2021 at 17:48:25 (+0800), Kevin Shell wrote: > [...] > > Isn't Debian already has a /etc/alternatives/ mechanism? > > AIUI all the targets of /etc/alternatives are all installed at the > same time, and can be simultaneo

Re: Conflicting alternatives

> Of course not. But it'll be the only way to find out which stumbling > blocks lie beyond the package-imposed "conflicts". And then, perhaps, > convince the DDs That Be. W.r.t multiple MTAs, I wouldn't bother to try and convince the DDs, at least not without a solid use-case, which seems quite un

Re: Conflicting alternatives

On Tue 16 Feb 2021 at 14:40:33 (-0500), Stefan Monnier wrote: > Dan Ritter [2021-02-16 11:03:14] wrote: > > Stefan Monnier wrote: > >> Still, there is to me no good reason not to allow installing both exim > >> and postfix at the same time. I think it's just a tradeoff between how > >> often this

Re: Debian switchable MTA mechanism

On Tue 16 Feb 2021 at 17:48:25 (+0800), Kevin Shell wrote: > On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 11:29:54AM +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > On Ma, 16 feb 21, 16:37:20, Kevin Shell wrote: > > > Why Debian does't have a switchable MTA mechanism > > > to allow install multiple MTAs at the same time? > > > > Why

Re: FileZilla / ftp / GnuTLS error connecting to sites with Testing/Bullseye

On Tue, 2021-02-16 at 16:45 -0500, Gary Dale wrote: > On 2021-02-13 03:02, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > On Vi, 12 feb 21, 17:00:41, Gary Dale wrote: > > > Which is why I think it would be useful to have way to rollback a > > > package > > > when you can't fix it quickly. That way you aren't asking all

Re: awstats, how to see in a browser?

Gene Heskett wrote: I finally got around to changing awstats.conf to look at the httpd logs since the apache2 logs haven't been used in a while, but 2 changes in browsers has lost the localhost link to see what it is spitting out. Does anyone recall the address to send a browser to? awstats do

Re: Conflicting alternatives

On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 02:40:33PM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > Exactly. This is user-y stuff: imagine two X servers running on behalf > > of two users [...] > Not sure in which way this is different from running two different SMTP > servers on two different interfaces. Technically not much,

Re: identifying my LInux machine on my LAN

> > > paul@Joy4:~$ sudo iptables -L > [sudo] password for paul: > Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT) > target prot opt source destination > > Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT) > target prot opt source destination > > Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT) > target prot opt source

Re: identifying my LInux machine on my LAN

On 2/16/21 11:57 AM, Paul Scott wrote: On 2/16/21 10:50 AM, Kenneth Parker wrote: On Tue, Feb 16, 2021, 11:56 AM IL Ka > wrote: Check that * connection is not blocked by firewall: ``sudo iptables -L`` paul@Joy4:~$ sudo iptables -L [sudo] password

Re: Conflicting alternatives

Dan Ritter [2021-02-16 11:03:14] wrote: > Stefan Monnier wrote: >> Still, there is to me no good reason not to allow installing both exim >> and postfix at the same time. I think it's just a tradeoff between how >> often this could be useful and how much work it takes to tweak the >> packages. >

Re: identifying my LInux machine on my LAN

On 2/16/21 10:50 AM, Kenneth Parker wrote: On Tue, Feb 16, 2021, 11:56 AM IL Ka > wrote: Check that * connection is not blocked by firewall: ``sudo iptables -L`` paul@Joy4:~$ sudo iptables -L [sudo] password for paul: Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT) tar

Re: identifying my LInux machine on my LAN

On 2021-02-16 16:49, Paul Scott wrote: My LAN used to have 1 or two computers and/or debices and my Debian Linux machine on it.  I used to be able to log in either on the LAN from my wife's Windows computer or from outside the LAN with my Debian laptop with ssh or Windows machines on which I had

Re: identifying my LInux machine on my LAN

On Tue, Feb 16, 2021, 11:56 AM IL Ka wrote: > Check that > * connection is not blocked by firewall: ``sudo iptables -L`` > * your ssh is listening for port 22: ``ss -l -t`` > * your ip address is correct: ``ip addr`` > I would add: Check if openssh-server is installed. > > On Tue, Feb 16, 2021

Re: Conflicting alternatives (was: Debian switchable MTA mechanism)

On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 17:22:21 +0100 wrote: ... > Exactly. This is user-y stuff: imagine two X servers running on behalf > of two users (some time ago, those were a separate hardware: remember > those shiny HP thingies with a whopping 6 MB of RAM and a huge monitor? > > This was before HP special

Re: identifying my LInux machine on my LAN

Check that * connection is not blocked by firewall: ``sudo iptables -L`` * your ssh is listening for port 22: ``ss -l -t`` * your ip address is correct: ``ip addr`` On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 7:50 PM Paul Scott wrote: > My LAN used to have 1 or two computers and/or debices and my Debian > Linux mac

identifying my LInux machine on my LAN

My LAN used to have 1 or two computers and/or debices and my Debian Linux machine on it.  I used to be able to log in either on the LAN from my wife's Windows computer or from outside the LAN with my Debian laptop with ssh or Windows machines on which I had installed putty or Bitvise. I have d

Re: Conflicting alternatives (was: Debian switchable MTA mechanism)

On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 11:03:14AM -0500, Dan Ritter wrote: > Stefan Monnier wrote: > > Still, there is to me no good reason not to allow installing both exim > > and postfix at the same time. I think it's just a tradeoff between how > > often this could be useful and how much work it takes to tw

Re: Conflicting alternatives (was: Debian switchable MTA mechanism)

On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 09:17:13AM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > Therefore, you'll find apretty advanced alternatives system > > for client-y stuff in Debian (editor, MUA, what not) but > > not for server-y stuff. > > Hmm... so that's your take on it? > Maybe you're right. I was thinking of th

Re: missing memory and the mystery of MTRRs

On Mon, 15 Feb 2021, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Du, 14 feb 21, 12:22:25, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > > We had a power outage the other day, and when I tried to restart the > > machine it would get past the Grub screen, then sit there forever with > > a screen that was blank except for a blinking cursor.

Re: unetbootin

On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 01:02:49PM +0300, Semih Ozlem wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I am trying to install unetbootin from .bin file and I am getting the > following error message: > > - > > root@debian:/media/user/hd/isos# ./unetbootin-linux64-702.bin > Warning: Ignoring XDG_SES

Re: awstats, how to see in a browser?

On 2021-02-16 09:28, Gene Heskett wrote: Greetings all; I finally got around to changing awstats.conf to look at the httpd logs since the apache2 logs haven't been used in a while, but 2 changes in browsers has lost the localhost link to see what it is spitting out. Does anyone recall the addre

Re: Missing memory and the mystery of MTRRs

On Sat, 13 Feb 2021, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > [This would probably be an FAQ if I knew the proper incantation...] Well, sorta > I realized recently that a box I've been running for a while isn't seeing > all of its installed memory. The BIOS screens indicate that 8GB is > installed, but Debian

Re: Conflicting alternatives (was: Debian switchable MTA mechanism)

Stefan Monnier wrote: > Still, there is to me no good reason not to allow installing both exim > and postfix at the same time. I think it's just a tradeoff between how > often this could be useful and how much work it takes to tweak the > packages. An MTA has to provide certain things, or else i

Re: Debian switchable MTA mechanism

On 16/02/2021 14:19, Semih Ozlem wrote: > Just out of curiosity what is MTA short for? Mail Transfer Agent. Email has a whole bunch of similar acronyms to describe the various parts of the flow of email. You compose in an MUA (Mail User Agent), which hands it so an MSA (Mail Submission Agent - u

Re: Debian switchable MTA mechanism

>Just out of curiosity what is MTA short for? Mail Transfer Agent. This is a server that must be able to: * get email message from MUA (mail user agent) * forward/route it to the destination (or to the right direction at least) * As last step, MTA sends message to the MDA (mail delivery agent) th

Re: Debian switchable MTA mechanism

Just out of curiosity what is MTA short for? Kevin Shell , 16 Şub 2021 Sal, 11:57 tarihinde şunu yazdı: > Hello Debian Users. > > Why Debian does't have a switchable MTA mechanism > to allow install multiple MTAs at the same time? > > Fedora, Centos etc. allow users to install > multiple MTAs at

Re: Debian switchable MTA mechanism

On Tuesday, February 16, 2021 08:33:50 AM Dan Ritter wrote: > Kevin Shell wrote: > > Looks like stupid to use this command to switch MTA. 🤓 > > Are you calling me stupid for answering your question? I'm glad you (dsr) "called him out"! (I was getting ready to do so, but, I hope, your reply has

Conflicting alternatives (was: Debian switchable MTA mechanism)

> Therefore, you'll find apretty advanced alternatives system > for client-y stuff in Debian (editor, MUA, what not) but > not for server-y stuff. Hmm... so that's your take on it? Maybe you're right. I was thinking of the display manager as a counter-example (you can install lxdm, gdm, and other

Re: Debian switchable MTA mechanism

Kevin Shell wrote: > On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 08:33:50AM -0500, Dan Ritter wrote: > > Kevin Shell wrote: > > > On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 06:39:03AM -0500, Dan Ritter wrote: > > > [...] > > > > Don't purge them. Just install each of them in turn. Then the > > > > command to move to the next one is >

Re: Debian switchable MTA mechanism

On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 08:33:50AM -0500, Dan Ritter wrote: > Kevin Shell wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 06:39:03AM -0500, Dan Ritter wrote: > > [...] > > > Don't purge them. Just install each of them in turn. Then the > > > command to move to the next one is > > > > > > apt install MTA-NAME

Re: Debian switchable MTA mechanism

On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 08:33:50AM -0500, Dan Ritter wrote: > Kevin Shell wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 06:39:03AM -0500, Dan Ritter wrote: > > [...] > > > Don't purge them. Just install each of them in turn. Then the > > > command to move to the next one is > > > > > > apt install MTA-NAME

Re: Debian switchable MTA mechanism

Kevin Shell wrote: > On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 06:39:03AM -0500, Dan Ritter wrote: > [...] > > Don't purge them. Just install each of them in turn. Then the > > command to move to the next one is > > > > apt install MTA-NAME > > > Looks like stupid to use this command to switch MTA. 🤓 Are you cal

Re: Debian switchable MTA mechanism

On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 06:39:03AM -0500, Dan Ritter wrote: > > You have an unusual use-case. > yeah, weird use case. 🤓 > > > > Fedora, Centos etc. allow users to install multiple MTAs at the same > > > > multiple MTAs at the same time. > [...] > Don't purge them. Just install each of them in

Re: Debian switchable MTA mechanism

Kevin Shell wrote: > On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 11:29:54AM +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > On Ma, 16 feb 21, 16:37:20, Kevin Shell wrote: > > > Hello Debian Users. > > > > > > Why Debian does't have a switchable MTA mechanism > > > to allow install multiple MTAs at the same time? > > > > Why do yo

Re: Debian switchable MTA mechanism

On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 05:48:25PM +0800, Kevin Shell wrote: > On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 11:29:54AM +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > On Ma, 16 feb 21, 16:37:20, Kevin Shell wrote: > > > Hello Debian Users. > > > > > > Why Debian does't have a switchable MTA mechanism > > > to allow install multiple

Re: Debian switchable MTA mechanism

Georgi Naplatanov writes: > On 2/16/21 10:37 AM, Kevin Shell wrote: >> Hello Debian Users. >> >> Why Debian does't have a switchable MTA mechanism >> to allow install multiple MTAs at the same time? >> >> Fedora, Centos etc. allow users to install >> multiple MTAs at the same time. >> There's

unetbootin

Hi everyone, I am trying to install unetbootin from .bin file and I am getting the following error message: - root@debian:/media/user/hd/isos# ./unetbootin-linux64-702.bin Warning: Ignoring XDG_SESSION_TYPE=wayland on Gnome. Use QT_QPA_PLATFORM=wayland to run on Wayland anywa

Re: Debian switchable MTA mechanism

On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 11:13:36AM +0200, Georgi Naplatanov wrote: > Hi Kevin. > > What is the use-case for multiple MTAs, port 25 is only one. > I run a VPS, for study purpose to switch between MTAs not having to remove one to get the other, I want to keep them installed at the same time. You ca

Re: Debian switchable MTA mechanism

On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 11:29:54AM +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Ma, 16 feb 21, 16:37:20, Kevin Shell wrote: > > Hello Debian Users. > > > > Why Debian does't have a switchable MTA mechanism > > to allow install multiple MTAs at the same time? > > Why do you need this? > For convenience whe

Re: Debian switchable MTA mechanism

On Ma, 16 feb 21, 16:37:20, Kevin Shell wrote: > Hello Debian Users. > > Why Debian does't have a switchable MTA mechanism > to allow install multiple MTAs at the same time? Why do you need this? > Fedora, Centos etc. allow users to install multiple MTAs at the same > multiple MTAs at the same

awstats, how to see in a browser?

Greetings all; I finally got around to changing awstats.conf to look at the httpd logs since the apache2 logs haven't been used in a while, but 2 changes in browsers has lost the localhost link to see what it is spitting out. Does anyone recall the address to send a browser to? Thanks. Cheers

Re: How automatic are backport package updates?

On Lu, 15 feb 21, 08:20:39, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Sat, Feb 13, 2021 at 10:47:41AM -0500, Michael Grant wrote: > > One comment though, in the 10+ years of running Debian Testing, I have > > to say that Testing is actually very reliable, way more reliable than > > it's name implies! > > This can

Re: Debian switchable MTA mechanism

On 2/16/21 10:37 AM, Kevin Shell wrote: > Hello Debian Users. > > Why Debian does't have a switchable MTA mechanism > to allow install multiple MTAs at the same time? > > Fedora, Centos etc. allow users to install > multiple MTAs at the same time. > There's a "alternatives --config mta" command

Re: Serifed, variable-pitch font.

On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 07:50:13PM -0800, pe...@easthope.ca wrote: > What serifed, variable-pitch font is available to Firefox and most > contemporary browsers? I want to specify a font-family in inline > styling. Preferably to work in MacOS and MS Windows as well as Linux. If all you want is

Debian switchable MTA mechanism

Hello Debian Users. Why Debian does't have a switchable MTA mechanism to allow install multiple MTAs at the same time? Fedora, Centos etc. allow users to install multiple MTAs at the same time. There's a "alternatives --config mta" command to allow to choose between alternative MTA. -- kevin

Re: Serifed, variable-pitch font.

On 16/02/2021 03:50, pe...@easthope.ca wrote: > What serifed, variable-pitch font is available to Firefox and most > contemporary browsers? I want to specify a font-family in inline > styling. Preferably to work in MacOS and MS Windows as well as Linux. Not a definitive list, but running "fc-l

NUMA nvidia -persiste

Hi, I got 5 related errors in my log : device :01:00.0 - failed to online memory. device :01:00.0 - NUMA: Failed to get device file descriptor NUMA: Failed to get device file NUMA: Failed to get device minor number NUMA: Failed to extract device minor number from /proc/driver/nvidia/gpus/0