Re: Disabling recommends - was [Re: bash-completion pros/cons]

2020-06-18 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 17 iun 20, 06:51:18, Richard Owlett wrote: > > The purpose is to determine if I want to do future installs debootstrap. > I attempted to use debootstrap a few years ago and understand it will take > some time/effort to learn it. If you are going to start from scratch you should consider mm

Re: Disabling recommends - was [Re: bash-completion pros/cons]

2020-06-18 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 17 iun 20, 20:48:50, Brian wrote: > > debootstrap is only run during the installation of the base system. It > installs recommended packages. That is in contradiction to what the > Manual says. For "regular" use deboostrap does not install Recommends. According to the manpage it does have

Re: KDE run Dolphin as root?

2020-06-18 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 17 iun 20, 10:55:55, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > Making things user friendly (something we *gotta* do) means sometimes > taking decisions for the user. Where's the limit? Where's too much > (authoritarian software)? Where's too litle (RTFM software)? You'll > be wrong most of the time for s

FW: Re: [Summary] Discourse for Debian

2020-06-18 Thread Andrei POPESCU
Dear debian-user subscribers, While most of use don't have a vote as per the Debian Constitution we can (and sometimes do) get involved in various decision processes, even if just by providing our opinion or point of view (in a discussion on some list, on a bug report, etc.). In my opinion (ha

Re: [OT] Regular DKIM issues on this ML (was: Re: why !oh why Debian and application list)

2020-06-18 Thread David Wright
On Tue 16 Jun 2020 at 21:28:11 (+0200), l0f...@tuta.io wrote: > 16 juin 2020 16:30 de deb...@lionunicorn.co.uk: > > > It might be easier for people to follow the substance of this thread > > if you posted in such a way as to include one simple self-descriptive > > test in each post, and not includ

Re: bash-completion pros/cons

2020-06-18 Thread David Wright
On Thu 18 Jun 2020 at 22:31:31 (+0100), Darac Marjal wrote: > On 18/06/2020 21:14, David Wright wrote: > > On Thu 18 Jun 2020 at 20:38:15 (+0100), Darac Marjal wrote: > >> On 18/06/2020 20:15, David Wright wrote: > >>> On Wed 17 Jun 2020 at 10:04:19 (+0200), Anders Andersson wrote: > On Tue, J

Re: How long will this take?

2020-06-18 Thread David Wright
On Fri 12 Jun 2020 at 07:51:30 (-0400), Michael Stone wrote: > On Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 08:52:10PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > > The only unaddressed point in my use case is the prevention of a > > high-water mark, because zeroing the drive achieves precisely the > > opposite. What ought I to be r

Re: Oval xml for debian 11

2020-06-18 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 01:00:40AM +0300, Wagde Zabit wrote: >Hi >Where can I find the oval xml for Debian 11 >I can’t find it here: >[1]https://www.debian.org/security/oval/ >Thanx >Wagde > Since Debian 11 is approximately a year from release, it is not likely that the sec

Oval xml for debian 11

2020-06-18 Thread Wagde Zabit
Hi Where can I find the oval xml for Debian 11 I can’t find it here: https://www.debian.org/security/oval/ Thanx Wagde

Re: bash-completion pros/cons

2020-06-18 Thread Darac Marjal
On 18/06/2020 21:14, David Wright wrote: > On Thu 18 Jun 2020 at 20:38:15 (+0100), Darac Marjal wrote: >> On 18/06/2020 20:15, David Wright wrote: >>> On Wed 17 Jun 2020 at 10:04:19 (+0200), Anders Andersson wrote: On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 9:48 PM David Wright wrote: > Where bash-co

Re: bash-completion pros/cons

2020-06-18 Thread David Wright
On Thu 18 Jun 2020 at 20:38:15 (+0100), Darac Marjal wrote: > On 18/06/2020 20:15, David Wright wrote: > > On Wed 17 Jun 2020 at 10:04:19 (+0200), Anders Andersson wrote: > >> On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 9:48 PM David Wright > >> wrote: > >>> Where bash-completion does get in the way for me is, for e

Re: bash-completion pros/cons

2020-06-18 Thread Darac Marjal
On 18/06/2020 20:15, David Wright wrote: > On Wed 17 Jun 2020 at 10:04:19 (+0200), Anders Andersson wrote: >> On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 9:48 PM David Wright >> wrote: >>> Where bash-completion does get in the way for me is, for example, >>> where you download a file that's, say, a PDF but it arriv

Re: Disabling recommends - was [Re: bash-completion pros/cons]

2020-06-18 Thread David Wright
On Thu 18 Jun 2020 at 06:48:26 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote: > On 06/18/2020 03:13 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 12:53:55AM +0100, Brian wrote: > > > > [...] > > > > > No you don't. A user preseeds with > > > > > >recommends=false > > > > > > But you know for a fa

Re: bash-completion pros/cons

2020-06-18 Thread David Wright
On Wed 17 Jun 2020 at 10:04:19 (+0200), Anders Andersson wrote: > On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 9:48 PM David Wright wrote: > > Where bash-completion does get in the way for me is, for example, > > where you download a file that's, say, a PDF but it arrives via wget > > called, say, index_0001.3872359.h

Re: Disabling recommends - was [Re: bash-completion pros/cons]

2020-06-18 Thread David Wright
On Wed 17 Jun 2020 at 20:48:50 (+0100), Brian wrote: > On Wed 17 Jun 2020 at 14:15:05 -0500, David Wright wrote: > > On Wed 17 Jun 2020 at 18:15:49 (+0100), Brian wrote: > > > > On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 06:51:18AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > > > > > > > Clarification of my immediate goal: > > >

Re: Disabling recommends - was [Re: bash-completion pros/cons]

2020-06-18 Thread tomas
On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 07:50:39PM +0100, Brian wrote: > On Thu 18 Jun 2020 at 14:41:19 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 06:48:26AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: [...] > > > 2. Do I "know" something that is not actually true? > > > > That is anyone's guess. I know I

Re: Disabling recommends - was [Re: bash-completion pros/cons]

2020-06-18 Thread Brian
On Thu 18 Jun 2020 at 14:41:19 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 06:48:26AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > > On 06/18/2020 03:13 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > >On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 12:53:55AM +0100, Brian wrote: > > > > > >[...] > > > > > >>No you don't. A user preseeds

Re: bash-completion pros/cons (was: Re: Need commands)

2020-06-18 Thread l0f4r0
Hi, 18 juin 2020 à 09:00 de david...@freevolt.org: > On Tue, 16 Jun 2020, l0f...@tuta.io wrote: > >> 16 juin 2020 à 10:47 de david...@freevolt.org: >> >>> I hear some people find bash-completion helpful. Personally, though, >>> no. Do not want. >>> >> Interesting/intriguing point of view. >> > I

Re: Could RAM possibly be just 3-4 times faster than bare hdd writes and reads? or, is the Linux kernel doing its 'magic' in the bg? or, ...

2020-06-18 Thread Michael Stone
On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 05:28:11PM +0300, Reco wrote: Hi. On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 08:57:48AM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 08:50:49AM +0300, Reco wrote: > On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 05:54:51PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 11:45:53PM +0300, R

Re: Could RAM possibly be just 3-4 times faster than bare hdd writes and reads? or, is the Linux kernel doing its 'magic' in the bg? or, ...

2020-06-18 Thread Reco
Hi. On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 08:57:48AM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: > On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 08:50:49AM +0300, Reco wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 05:54:51PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: > > > On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 11:45:53PM +0300, Reco wrote: > > > > Long story short, if you need a

Re: Could RAM possibly be just 3-4 times faster than bare hdd writes and reads? or, is the Linux kernel doing its 'magic' in the bg? or, ...

2020-06-18 Thread Michael Stone
On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 08:50:49AM +0300, Reco wrote: Hi. On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 05:54:51PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 11:45:53PM +0300, Reco wrote: > Long story short, if you need a primitive I/O benchmark, you're better > with both dsync and nocache. Not unl

Re: Disabling recommends - was [Re: bash-completion pros/cons]

2020-06-18 Thread tomas
On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 06:48:26AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 06/18/2020 03:13 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > >On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 12:53:55AM +0100, Brian wrote: > > > >[...] > > > >>No you don't. A user preseeds with > >> > >> recommends=false > >> > >>But you know for a fact that this

Re: Disabling recommends - was [Re: bash-completion pros/cons]

2020-06-18 Thread Richard Owlett
On 06/18/2020 03:13 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 12:53:55AM +0100, Brian wrote: [...] No you don't. A user preseeds with recommends=false But you know for a fact that this doesn't work. Therefore, an answer to your enquiry > Is there a way to totally disable rec

Re: BITTE BESTÄTIGEN SIE DIE MITTEILUNG

2020-06-18 Thread Reco
Hi. On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 10:19:08AM +0200, Renato Gallo wrote: > WHAT ??? A Vietnameeze spam, a rare sight these days. Please do not reply it next time, just report it. It's really hard to remove something like this from the list archives if someone replies to the offending e-mail. Re

Re: X11 / KDE Plasma 5 periodically freezes when I use GUI app inside LXC container

2020-06-18 Thread John Radek
> > > That means I managed to narrow down the issue. It’s firewall with > > default policy DROP instead of REJECT. It also says something about Xorg > > doing > > something on network I have no idea what > > OK, It's even weirder - it's not firewall. It's a network. When I > disconnect RJ45, n

Re: X11 / KDE Plasma 5 periodically freezes when I use GUI app inside LXC container

2020-06-18 Thread John Radek
> That means I managed to narrow down the issue. It’s firewall with > default policy DROP instead of REJECT. It also says something about Xorg doing > something on network I have no idea what OK, It's even weirder - it's not firewall. It's a network. When I disconnect RJ45, no issues, no freez

Re: BITTE BESTÄTIGEN SIE DIE MITTEILUNG

2020-06-18 Thread Renato Gallo
WHAT ??? - Original Message - From: "ANSHULA KANT (World Bank Group)" To: "debian-user" Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 9:50:58 AM Subject: BITTE BESTÄTIGEN SIE DIE MITTEILUNG Achtung: Begünstigter, Möglicherweise verstehen Sie nicht, warum diese E-Mail zu Ihnen kam. Eine gemeinsame Sit

Re: bash-completion pros/cons (was: Re: Need commands)

2020-06-18 Thread tomas
On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 07:25:40AM +, davidson wrote: > On Tue, 16 Jun 2020, l0f...@tuta.io wrote: [...] > >Maybe sometimes completion is not working as it should, nothing is > >perfect, but globally I think that it saves time more than its > >wastes. > > For those it suits, I am glad the pa

BITTE BESTÄTIGEN SIE DIE MITTEILUNG

2020-06-18 Thread ANSHULA KANT (World Bank Group)
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Re: Disabling recommends - was [Re: bash-completion pros/cons]

2020-06-18 Thread tomas
On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 12:53:55AM +0100, Brian wrote: [...] > No you don't. A user preseeds with > > recommends=false > > But you know for a fact that this doesn't work. Therefore, an answer to > your enquiry > > > Is there a way to totally disable recommends when installing Debian? > >

Re: bash-completion pros/cons (was: Re: Need commands)

2020-06-18 Thread davidson
On Tue, 16 Jun 2020, l0f...@tuta.io wrote: [dd] 16 juin 2020 à 13:23 de wool...@eeg.ccf.org It's flaky and full of errors. (Many of these errors end up on the bash mailing lists as bug reports in bash, but nope, they're from bash-completion.) It bloats bash, using a lot of memory, and taking

Re: bash-completion pros/cons (was: Re: Need commands)

2020-06-18 Thread davidson
On Tue, 16 Jun 2020, l0f...@tuta.io wrote: 16 juin 2020 à 10:47 de david...@freevolt.org: I hear some people find bash-completion helpful. Personally, though, no. Do not want. Interesting/intriguing point of view. I will remember this polite new way to call somebody a weirdo. Why would s