Re: Unable to boot new buster installation

2020-06-11 Thread mick crane
On 2020-06-10 22:13, Gary L. Roach wrote: On 6/10/20 12:10 PM, Henning Follmann wrote: On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 10:53:53AM -0700, Gary L. Roach wrote: On 6/10/20 5:17 AM, Dominique Dumont wrote: On dimanche 7 juin 2020 21:14:20 CEST Gary L. Roach wrote: I recently up graded this system to Bulls

Re: [OT] How to help the OP? (was: How long will this take?)

2020-06-11 Thread David Wright
On Wed 10 Jun 2020 at 15:48:01 (-0400), Michael Stone wrote: > On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 09:20:50PM +0200, l0f...@tuta.io wrote: > > 10 juin 2020 à 20:51 de mst...@debian.org: > > > On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 12:02:13PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > > > > > >> Both l0f4r0 and I have asked why the OP > >

Re: How long will this take?

2020-06-11 Thread David Wright
On Wed 10 Jun 2020 at 14:51:32 (-0400), Michael Stone wrote: > On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 12:02:13PM -0500, David Wright wrote: [snipped the first part as it's covered elsewhere] > > My use case for badblocks was closer to that of the OP, but still > > different. Firstly, the disk contained personal

Re: why !oh why Debian and application list

2020-06-11 Thread A_Man_Without_Clue
On 6/8/20 2:23 AM, Seeds Notoneofmy wrote: > Well, as the subject suggests, I'm a bit fed up with the logic behind > how installed programs are sorted out in the Applications menu. > > The need to go hunt down an installed application seems yester century. > > I just installed Picard, and it d

Re: Zoom- best practice?

2020-06-11 Thread Ryan Nowakowski
On Fri, Jun 05, 2020 at 09:28:21AM -0700, Peter Ehlert wrote: > Family is using Zoom, International. > They will use Zoom, and I need to participate. > > I use Debian Mate Stable, and Firefox ESR > > I am concerned about security, duh! > Looking for ideas. > > my current thoughts, in order of pr

Re: why !oh why Debian and application list

2020-06-11 Thread l0f4r0
Hi, 11 juin 2020 à 23:13 de notoneofmyse...@gmx.de: > On 6/7/20 10:58 PM, l0f...@tuta.io wrote: > >> Please just run the following commands as a simple user (no need to cd to >> anything): >> * cat /usr/share/applications/org.musicbrainz.Picard.desktop >> * cat /usr/share/metainfo/org.musicbrain

Re: why !oh why Debian and application list

2020-06-11 Thread Seeds Notoneofmy
On 6/8/20 8:20 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: Debian does very little customization of the various Desktop Environments, you are experiencing upstream's take on usability. Kind regards, Andrei Thanks a lot, Andrei, this is very, very helpful.

Re: why !oh why Debian and application list

2020-06-11 Thread Seeds Notoneofmy
On 6/7/20 10:58 PM, l0f...@tuta.io wrote: Please just run the following commands as a simple user (no need to cd to anything): * cat /usr/share/applications/org.musicbrainz.Picard.desktop * cat /usr/share/metainfo/org.musicbrainz.Picard.appdata.xml * desktop-file-validate /usr/share/application

Re: Fw: Fw: How long will this take?

2020-06-11 Thread Kenneth Parker
On Thu, Jun 11, 2020, 2:05 PM Dan Ritter wrote: > Matthew Campbell wrote: > > The process is complete. The 4 TB drive has been successfully blanked in > less than 40 hours using dd. It got done between 11 pm last night and 12 am > this morning. dd showed an overall average write speed of 28.4 MB/

Re: Investigating internals of Debian packages

2020-06-11 Thread Tom Dial
On 6/11/20 05:03, Richard Owlett wrote: > I'm interested in the installer  menu titled "Software Selection". > I want to know explicitly what happens when "Debian desktop environment" > and/or "MATE" is checked. Pretty much the same thing that happens when you enter the command "tasksel," I thi

Re: Question for users of Thunderbird on buster

2020-06-11 Thread D. R. Evans
Virgo Pärna wrote on 6/11/20 1:27 AM: > On Wed, 10 Jun 2020 14:10:45 -0600, D. R. Evans wrote: >> For example: >> if I type the "-" character twice in a row, Thunderbird displays only one, >> even though both characters are present in the text >> if I type the "<" character twice in a row, Thu

Re: Fw: Fw: How long will this take?

2020-06-11 Thread Dan Ritter
Matthew Campbell wrote: > The process is complete. The 4 TB drive has been successfully blanked in less > than 40 hours using dd. It got done between 11 pm last night and 12 am this > morning. dd showed an overall average write speed of 28.4 MB/s. It was never > my intention to start a war. My

Re: Reply semantics, yet again (was Re: Zoom- best practice?)

2020-06-11 Thread Nicolas George
[ It comes back to Jitsi and its license after a few paragraphs. And it is appalling. ] The Wanderer (12020-06-10): > What's with the stray 1, here? We are in 12020 HE = 2020 CE, HE stands for Holocene Era, or possibly Human Era, it is just shifted by 1 from the Common Era. As a consequence,

Re: Investigating internals of Debian packages

2020-06-11 Thread Richard Owlett
On 06/11/2020 06:24 AM, The Wanderer wrote: On 2020-06-11 at 07:03, Richard Owlett wrote: I'm interested in the installer menu titled "Software Selection". I want to know explicitly what happens when "Debian desktop environment" and/or "MATE" is checked. If you want to know the specific sequ

Re: Investigating internals of Debian packages

2020-06-11 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 02:21:50PM +0200, Marco Möller wrote: > On 11.06.20 13:03, Richard Owlett wrote: > > I'm interested in the installer  menu titled "Software Selection". > > I want to know explicitly what happens when "Debian desktop environment" > > and/or "MATE" is checked. > > TIA > > The

Re: Investigating internals of Debian packages

2020-06-11 Thread Brian
On Thu 11 Jun 2020 at 06:03:28 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > I'm interested in the installer menu titled "Software Selection". > I want to know explicitly what happens when "Debian desktop environment" > and/or "MATE" is checked. > TIA Checking "Debian desktop environment" alone gets you the ta

Re: Investigating internals of Debian packages

2020-06-11 Thread Marco Möller
On 11.06.20 13:03, Richard Owlett wrote: I'm interested in the installer  menu titled "Software Selection". I want to know explicitly what happens when "Debian desktop environment" and/or "MATE" is checked. TIA The for me most important observation is, that if deactivating all listed deskto

Re: [OT] How to help the OP? (was: How long will this take?)

2020-06-11 Thread Nicolas George
Michael Stone (12020-06-11): > I wasn't referring to that statement, I was referring to several other > emails which were apparently being justified by that statement. I have not seen anything like this. Do you have references? > So the rest of your strawman is, I guess, irrelevant. You could ha

Re: [OT] How to help the OP? (was: How long will this take?)

2020-06-11 Thread Michael Stone
On Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 10:58:39AM +0200, deloptes wrote: There is nothing unpolite in the mentioned statement: "There is no dilemma at all: we are not paid help-desk technicians." I wasn't referring to that statement, I was referring to several other emails which were apparently being justifi

Re: Question for users of Thunderbird on buster

2020-06-11 Thread Virgo Pärna
On Wed, 10 Jun 2020 14:10:45 -0600, D. R. Evans wrote: > For example: > if I type the "-" character twice in a row, Thunderbird displays only one, > even though both characters are present in the text > if I type the "<" character twice in a row, Thunderbird converts the two > "less than" char

Re: Investigating internals of Debian packages

2020-06-11 Thread The Wanderer
On 2020-06-11 at 07:03, Richard Owlett wrote: > I'm interested in the installer menu titled "Software Selection". I > want to know explicitly what happens when "Debian desktop > environment" and/or "MATE" is checked. If you want to know the specific sequence of coded actions, you'll have to look

Investigating internals of Debian packages

2020-06-11 Thread Richard Owlett
I'm interested in the installer menu titled "Software Selection". I want to know explicitly what happens when "Debian desktop environment" and/or "MATE" is checked. TIA

Re: [OT] How to help the OP? (was: How long will this take?)

2020-06-11 Thread tomas
On Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 10:58:39AM +0200, deloptes wrote: > to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > >> Now the superior moral leftists came here to judge what is polite and > >> what > > ^^^ > > > > Again, your idea of polite differs from mine by a wide margin. > > With all respect to yo

Re: [OT] How to help the OP? (was: How long will this take?)

2020-06-11 Thread deloptes
to...@tuxteam.de wrote: >> Now the superior moral leftists came here to judge what is polite and >> what > ^^^ > > Again, your idea of polite differs from mine by a wide margin. With all respect to you tomas this is perfectly OK. Deviations should be acceptable both right and

Re: Unable to boot new buster installation

2020-06-11 Thread Dominique Dumont
On mercredi 10 juin 2020 19:53:53 CEST Gary L. Roach wrote: > The sequence of events on boot up are Bios screen, Debian Window with OS > selection, Boot up sequence, login/password ( Xorg not running), startx > -> error window. So to answer your question, the message is after > login/password. Rig