Re: Reporting bugs in Stable

2020-04-19 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 19 apr 20, 13:28:57, Ihor Antonov wrote: > > Reporting from Debian Sid, everything is quite stable. I do run ZFS on root > and make snapshots prior to big upgrades as a pre-caution, but so far > I did not have a reason to revert anything. It's just a matter of time. Even if Debian does

Re: apt-mark hold issue (apt Installed: 1.8.2 armhf)

2020-04-19 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 19 apr 20, 18:40:44, Michael Howard wrote: > > I don't think apt and dpkg are linked in this respect, they didn't used to > be. i.e. holding through apt had no affect on dpkg. More like apt didn't have any interface to set/clear holds. It seems to me like dpkg is the "keeper" of hold stat

Re: Reporting bugs in Stable

2020-04-19 Thread Keith Bainbridge
On 20/4/20 12:26 am, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Du, 19 apr 20, 09:43:46, Carl Fink wrote: So this has bugged me every time I run Debian Stable: you find a bug. You try to report it, and are told not to bother because there's a newer version. By? I'm guessing you mean the standard request from re

Re: Reporting bugs in Stable

2020-04-19 Thread David Wright
On Sun 19 Apr 2020 at 09:43:46 (-0400), Carl Fink wrote: > So this has bugged me every time I run Debian Stable: you find a bug. You > try to report it, and are told not to bother because there's a newer > version. There is no way to install the newer version without manually > fiddling with pointl

Re: Kind reminder: please don't reply to and/or quote spam, ever

2020-04-19 Thread Charles Curley
On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 21:07:42 -0400 Doug McGarrett wrote: > This may be a little off-topic, but it seems to me that any email > from a .nl address is spam. Am I wrong? (I just erase from the top!) Yes, you are wrong. There are plenty of legitimate users in the Netherlands. -- Does anybody read

Re: Kind reminder: please don't reply to and/or quote spam, ever

2020-04-19 Thread Doug McGarrett
On 4/19/20 4:59 PM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: /snip/ This may be a little off-topic, but it seems to me that any email from a .nl address is spam. Am I wrong? (I just erase from the top!) --doug

Re: Reporting bugs in Stable

2020-04-19 Thread riveravaldez
On 4/19/20, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Du, 19 apr 20, 09:43:46, Carl Fink wrote: >> So this has bugged me every time I run Debian Stable: you find a bug. You >> try to report it, and are told not to bother because there's a newer >> version. > > By? I'm guessing you mean the standard request from

Re: No Sound

2020-04-19 Thread riveravaldez
On 4/19/20, Bernd Gruber wrote: > Thomas George wrote: > >> systemctl status sound-card1.device >> >> sound-card1.device - /sound/card1 >> >> Loaded: Loaded >> >> Active: inactive (dead) >> >> System is Buster Debian 4.19.98-1 >> >> Upon reboot to Strectch Debian 4.9.38-2 sound works fine. Wher

foldingathome-beta

2020-04-19 Thread Jude DaShiell
On archlinux I'm running foldingathome-beta and it doesn't disable my system. It does use spare cpu cycles not used by the system for its own maintenance and not used by me. The system at times does run hard but that's to be expected. I don't know if that package is available on debian yet. I tr

Re: Kind reminder: please don't reply to and/or quote spam, ever

2020-04-19 Thread tomas
On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 08:28:08PM +, davidson wrote: > On Sun, 19 Apr 2020, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > >On Du, 19 apr 20, 11:51:27, Chris Ramsden wrote: > >> > >>I'd invite Andrei to define what he means by "bounce". > > > >I thought I already did in follow-ups. The Debian specific instruction

Re: Reporting bugs in Stable

2020-04-19 Thread Ihor Antonov
On Sunday, 19 April 2020 07:26:31 PDT Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Du, 19 apr 20, 09:43:46, Carl Fink wrote: > > So this has bugged me every time I run Debian Stable: you find a bug. You > > try to report it, and are told not to bother because there's a newer > > version. > > By? I'm guessing you me

Re: Kind reminder: please don't reply to and/or quote spam, ever

2020-04-19 Thread davidson
On Sun, 19 Apr 2020, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Du, 19 apr 20, 11:51:27, Chris Ramsden wrote: I'd invite Andrei to define what he means by "bounce". I thought I already did in follow-ups. The Debian specific instructions explicitly mention mutt as an example. As far as I can tell it is what W

Re: fonts and wine in Debian buster

2020-04-19 Thread Anil Felipe Duggirala
On Sun, Apr 19, 2020, at 11:47 AM, didier gaumet wrote: > Le 19/04/2020 à 18:45, didier gaumet a écrit : > > > [...] to link is to copy:[...] > > > sorry: to link is not to copy > > Thank you Didier, you are right, linking is not copying. Linking works for me actually, and the article you lin

Re: grub menu takes very long to appear

2020-04-19 Thread Nima Azarbayjany
By the way and for the record, this bug report is an exact instance of the problem I had and the proposed workaround fixed the delayed boot process for me too: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=950175.

Re: No Sound

2020-04-19 Thread Bernd Gruber
Thomas George wrote: > systemctl status sound-card1.device > > sound-card1.device - /sound/card1 > > Loaded: Loaded > > Active: inactive (dead) > > System is Buster Debian 4.19.98-1 > > Upon reboot to Strectch Debian 4.9.38-2 sound works fine. Where should I > look to correct the problem i

Re: apt-mark hold issue (apt Installed: 1.8.2 armhf)

2020-04-19 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2020-04-19 19:11 +0200, Sven Hartge wrote: > The Wanderer wrote: > >> Does holding a package to not-installed even work? I thought I'd tried >> that in the past, and had the result be ignored. > > No, it does work. Or at least it should, since you are holding the > package state, which is "uni

Re: apt-mark hold issue (apt Installed: 1.8.2 armhf)

2020-04-19 Thread Michael Howard
On 19/04/2020 18:27, The Wanderer wrote: On 2020-04-19 at 13:08, Michael Lange wrote: Hi, On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 12:57:12 -0400 The Wanderer wrote: Does holding a package to not-installed even work? I thought I'd tried that in the past, and had the result be ignored. not sure about that, man

Re: apt-mark hold issue (apt Installed: 1.8.2 armhf)

2020-04-19 Thread The Wanderer
On 2020-04-19 at 13:08, Michael Lange wrote: > Hi, > > On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 12:57:12 -0400 The Wanderer > wrote: > >> Does holding a package to not-installed even work? I thought I'd >> tried that in the past, and had the result be ignored. > > not sure about that, man apt-mark says > > " hold

Re: apt-mark hold issue (apt Installed: 1.8.2 armhf)

2020-04-19 Thread Sven Hartge
The Wanderer wrote: > On 2020-04-19 at 12:46, Michael Howard wrote: >> On 19/04/2020 17:34, Michael Lange wrote: >>> But then, I noticed that sudo-ldap is not actually installed here, >>> and in fact it appears to conflict with sudo so apparently both >>> cannot coexist. >>> >>> So maybe the ba

Re: apt-mark hold issue (apt Installed: 1.8.2 armhf)

2020-04-19 Thread Michael Lange
Hi, On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 12:57:12 -0400 The Wanderer wrote: > Does holding a package to not-installed even work? I thought I'd tried > that in the past, and had the result be ignored. not sure about that, man apt-mark says " hold is used to mark a package as held back, which will prevent the pa

Re: apt-mark hold issue (apt Installed: 1.8.2 armhf)

2020-04-19 Thread The Wanderer
On 2020-04-19 at 12:46, Michael Howard wrote: > On 19/04/2020 17:34, Michael Lange wrote: >> But then, I noticed that sudo-ldap is not actually installed here, >> and in fact it appears to conflict with sudo so apparently both >> cannot coexist. >> >> So maybe the basic problem here is that we

Re: fonts and wine in Debian buster

2020-04-19 Thread didier gaumet
Le 19/04/2020 à 18:45, didier gaumet a écrit : > [...] to link is to copy:[...] sorry: to link is not to copy

Re: apt-mark hold issue (apt Installed: 1.8.2 armhf)

2020-04-19 Thread Michael Howard
On 19/04/2020 17:34, Michael Lange wrote: Hi, On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 09:25:18 +0200 Sven Hartge wrote: Michael Howard wrote: root@bamford:/etc# apt-mark hold sudo sudo-ldap sudo set on hold. sudo-ldap set on hold. root@bamford:/etc# apt-mark showhold bash dash sudo sudo-ldap Still good, but t

Re: fonts and wine in Debian buster

2020-04-19 Thread didier gaumet
Le 19/04/2020 à 16:34, Anil F Duggirala a écrit : > Thank you Richard. As far as I can see in this link, they simply > recommend making a link between my system fonts and the famous Fonts > folder in drive_c/windows. My OP was about not having to do that [...] Hello Anil, You did mention that yo

Re: apt-mark hold issue (apt Installed: 1.8.2 armhf)

2020-04-19 Thread Michael Lange
Hi, On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 09:25:18 +0200 Sven Hartge wrote: > Michael Howard wrote: > > > root@bamford:/etc# apt-mark hold sudo sudo-ldap > > sudo set on hold. > > sudo-ldap set on hold. > > root@bamford:/etc# apt-mark showhold > > bash > > dash > > sudo > > sudo-ldap > > > Still good, but then

Re: Reporting bugs in Stable

2020-04-19 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Sun, 2020-04-19 at 10:27 -0400, Carl Fink wrote: > On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 09:51:02AM -0400, Jim Popovitch wrote: > > > What applications do you feel aren't up-to-date enough for your liking? > > I'm genuinely curious. > > Mr. Heskett's comments made me want to tell him how to lower the CPU us

Re: fonts and wine in Debian buster

2020-04-19 Thread Anil F Duggirala
On Fri, 2020-04-17 at 04:39 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 04/17/2020 03:01 AM, didier gaumet wrote: > > Hello, > > > > https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Wine#Fonts > > Thank you. That page and it's links seem to provide a good > introduction > to WINE. Installing WINE has been on my to-do

Re: Reporting bugs in Stable

2020-04-19 Thread Celejar
On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 09:51:02 -0400 Jim Popovitch wrote: > On Sun, 2020-04-19 at 09:43 -0400, Carl Fink wrote: > > Why is reportbug even in Stable? Why not just replace it with a script that > > says "Sorry, bugs in Stable are never fixed. Try Testing." Seriously, that's > > literally the Debian p

Re: Reporting bugs in Stable

2020-04-19 Thread Carl Fink
On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 09:51:02AM -0400, Jim Popovitch wrote: > What applications do you feel aren't up-to-date enough for your liking? > I'm genuinely curious. Mr. Heskett's comments made me want to tell him how to lower the CPU usage of BOINC. However, boinc-manager in Stable, at least on my s

Re: BOINC (was Re: For all specimens of Homo sapiens - about COVID19)

2020-04-19 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 19 April 2020 09:39:43 The Wanderer wrote: > On 2020-04-19 at 09:23, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Sunday 19 April 2020 03:03:53 Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: > >> As for Covid-19 vaccine, we are getting there. I know that because > >> for past month I was running my systems in full power f

Re: Reporting bugs in Stable

2020-04-19 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 19 apr 20, 09:43:46, Carl Fink wrote: > So this has bugged me every time I run Debian Stable: you find a bug. You > try to report it, and are told not to bother because there's a newer > version. By? I'm guessing you mean the standard request from reportbug to try a newer version. > Why

Re: Kind reminder: please don't reply to and/or quote spam, ever

2020-04-19 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 19 apr 20, 11:51:27, Chris Ramsden wrote: > > I'd invite Andrei to define what he means by "bounce". I thought I already did in follow-ups. The Debian specific instructions explicitly mention mutt as an example. As far as I can tell it is what Wikipedia calls "remailing"[1], though I mi

Re: Kind reminder: please don't reply to and/or quote spam, ever

2020-04-19 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 19 apr 20, 13:27:40, Sven Hartge wrote: > Andrei POPESCU wrote: > >> > >> Ah, I see. I was betting on "forwarding", but later it occurred to me > >> that this would wrap the original message (probably without headers > >> :-( into a part of a multi-part MIME. Drats. Probably you are right.

Re: Reporting bugs in Stable

2020-04-19 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Sun, 2020-04-19 at 09:43 -0400, Carl Fink wrote: > Why is reportbug even in Stable? Why not just replace it with a script that > says "Sorry, bugs in Stable are never fixed. Try Testing." Seriously, that's > literally the Debian policy, that only security fixes are done in Stable. I agree with

Re: For all specimens of Homo sapiens - about COVID19

2020-04-19 Thread Alexander V. Makartsev
On 19.04.2020 18:23, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Sunday 19 April 2020 03:03:53 Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: > > As for Covid-19 vaccine, we are getting there. I know that because for > past month I was running my systems in full power for BOINC project > Rosetta@Home. > Every research task is for Cov

Reporting bugs in Stable

2020-04-19 Thread Carl Fink
So this has bugged me every time I run Debian Stable: you find a bug. You try to report it, and are told not to bother because there's a newer version. There is no way to install the newer version without manually fiddling with pointlessly arcane configuration files that are sort of documented if y

Re: For all specimens of Homo sapiens - about COVID19

2020-04-19 Thread Vincent Lammens
Op 19/04/2020 om 15:23 schreef Gene Heskett: > On Sunday 19 April 2020 03:03:53 Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: > >> On 19.04.2020 04:55, Gene Heskett wrote: >>> And it isn't even properly coded pgp. Draw your own conclusions >>> about its veracity. >>> Cheers, Gene Heskett >> >> According to news

BOINC (was Re: For all specimens of Homo sapiens - about COVID19)

2020-04-19 Thread The Wanderer
On 2020-04-19 at 09:23, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Sunday 19 April 2020 03:03:53 Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: >> As for Covid-19 vaccine, we are getting there. I know that because for >> past month I was running my systems in full power for BOINC project >> Rosetta@Home. >> Every research task is

Re: For all specimens of Homo sapiens - about COVID19

2020-04-19 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 19 April 2020 03:03:53 Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: > On 19.04.2020 04:55, Gene Heskett wrote: > > And it isn't even properly coded pgp. Draw your own conclusions > > about its veracity. > > Cheers, Gene Heskett > > According to news on the Internet these kinds of bait-mail become much

Re: Forwarding to report-listspam.d.o vs bounce [was: Kind reminder: please don't reply to and/or quote spam, ever]

2020-04-19 Thread Sven Hartge
to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 01:27:40PM +0200, Sven Hartge wrote: >> Andrei POPESCU wrote: >>> As far as I know "forwarding as attachment" does not affect the >>> original message (though this may depend on the client), however it >>> is *not* appropriate for this particular

Forwarding to report-listspam.d.o vs bounce [was: Kind reminder: please don't reply to and/or quote spam, ever]

2020-04-19 Thread tomas
On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 01:27:40PM +0200, Sven Hartge wrote: > Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > On Du, 19 apr 20, 11:41:52, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > >> On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 12:21:02PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > >>> Apparently the "official" name (to be confirmed) is "remailing" and > >>> it in

Re: Kind reminder: please don't reply to and/or quote spam, ever

2020-04-19 Thread Cord Beermann
Hallo! Du (Andrei POPESCU) hast geschrieben: > * DO report spam only by bouncing it to report-lists...@lists.debian.org Please see https://wiki.debian.org/Teams/ListMaster/ListArchiveSpam#Methods_to_Nominate_Spam_for_the_Review-Process > Note: "bouncing" is also called "redirect" in some mail cl

Re: Kind reminder: please don't reply to and/or quote spam, ever

2020-04-19 Thread Sven Hartge
Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Du, 19 apr 20, 11:41:52, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: >> On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 12:21:02PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: >>> Apparently the "official" name (to be confirmed) is "remailing" and >>> it involves resending the message (mostly untouched) to another >>> address.

Re: Kind reminder: please don't reply to and/or quote spam, ever

2020-04-19 Thread tomas
On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 12:07:50PM +0100, Michael Howard wrote: > On 19/04/2020 12:01, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > >On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 11:56:32AM +0100, Michael Howard wrote: > >>On 19/04/2020 11:52, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > >>>On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 11:45:49AM +0100, Michael Howard wrote: > >

Re: Kind reminder: please don't reply to and/or quote spam, ever

2020-04-19 Thread Michael Howard
On 19/04/2020 12:01, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 11:56:32AM +0100, Michael Howard wrote: On 19/04/2020 11:52, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 11:45:49AM +0100, Michael Howard wrote: [...] Never used it myself though as I control my own mail server. Just t

Re: Kind reminder: please don't reply to and/or quote spam, ever

2020-04-19 Thread Michael Zoet
Am 19.04.20 um 12:38 schrieb to...@tuxteam.de: If there's any thunderbird expert here: hey, tell us how that works, and I promise to edit the Debian wiki :-) You need to install an add on to have this feature in Thunderbird and it's forks: https://mailredirect.sourceforge.io/ Maybe there ar

Re: Kind reminder: please don't reply to and/or quote spam, ever

2020-04-19 Thread tomas
On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 11:56:32AM +0100, Michael Howard wrote: > On 19/04/2020 11:52, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > >On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 11:45:49AM +0100, Michael Howard wrote: [...] > >>Never used it myself though as I control my own mail server. > >Just to avoid misunderstandings: how are thos

Re: Kind reminder: please don't reply to and/or quote spam, ever

2020-04-19 Thread tomas
On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 11:51:27AM +0100, Chris Ramsden wrote: [...] > I'd invite Andrei to define what he means by "bounce". The vast majority of > spam reporting agencies I have worked with ask for either headers, or the > whole of the offending message sent as an attachment. No email client

Re: Bouncing a message from Thunderbird [was: Kind reminder: please don't reply to and/or quote spam, ever]

2020-04-19 Thread Michael Howard
On 19/04/2020 11:56, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 11:50:01AM +0100, Michael Howard wrote: [...] Don't do boasting, but I have installed TB thousands of times, just like I've installed linux and windows thousands of times. No big deal is it? Sorry if I came across a bit "unf

Re: Bouncing a message from Thunderbird [was: Kind reminder: please don't reply to and/or quote spam, ever]

2020-04-19 Thread tomas
On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 11:50:01AM +0100, Michael Howard wrote: [...] > Don't do boasting, but I have installed TB thousands of times, just > like I've installed linux and windows thousands of times. No big > deal is it? Sorry if I came across a bit "unfriendly". It's just impatience. I just can

Re: Kind reminder: please don't reply to and/or quote spam, ever

2020-04-19 Thread Michael Howard
On 19/04/2020 11:52, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 11:45:49AM +0100, Michael Howard wrote: [...] If there's any thunderbird expert here: hey, tell us how that works, and I promise to edit the Debian wiki :-) There is a mail redirect plugin for TB here, https://mailredirect

Re: Kind reminder: please don't reply to and/or quote spam, ever

2020-04-19 Thread tomas
On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 11:45:49AM +0100, Michael Howard wrote: [...] > >If there's any thunderbird expert here: hey, tell us how that works, > >and I promise to edit the Debian wiki :-) > > > > > There is a mail redirect plugin for TB here, > https://mailredirect.sourceforge.io/installation.html

Re: Kind reminder: please don't reply to and/or quote spam, ever

2020-04-19 Thread Chris Ramsden
On 19/04/2020 10:11, elvis wrote: On 19/4/20 5:03 pm, Andrei POPESCU wrote: * DO report spam only by bouncing it to report-lists...@lists.debian.org https://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser#posting-spam Note: "bouncing" is also called "redirect" in some mail clients and is *not* forwar

Re: Bouncing a message from Thunderbird [was: Kind reminder: please don't reply to and/or quote spam, ever]

2020-04-19 Thread Michael Howard
On 19/04/2020 11:42, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 11:16:50AM +0100, Michael Howard wrote: [...] No way. Thing wanted to set up an account and refused to play with me without one. You mean an email client wanted you to setup an email account? Wow, how absurd :) Indeed. I ju

Re: Kind reminder: please don't reply to and/or quote spam, ever

2020-04-19 Thread Michael Howard
On 19/04/2020 11:38, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 01:15:16PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Du, 19 apr 20, 11:41:52, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 12:21:02PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: [...] Apparently the "official" name (to be confirmed) is "remailin

Re: Bouncing a message from Thunderbird [was: Kind reminder: please don't reply to and/or quote spam, ever]

2020-04-19 Thread tomas
On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 11:16:50AM +0100, Michael Howard wrote: [...] > >No way. Thing wanted to set up an account and refused to play > >with me without one. > > You mean an email client wanted you to setup an email account? Wow, > how absurd :) Indeed. I just wanted to "kick the UI tires". Bu

Re: Kind reminder: please don't reply to and/or quote spam, ever

2020-04-19 Thread tomas
On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 01:15:16PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Du, 19 apr 20, 11:41:52, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 12:21:02PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > > [...] > > > > > Apparently the "official" name (to be confirmed) is "remailing" and it > > > involves

Re: Kind reminder: please don't reply to and/or quote spam, ever

2020-04-19 Thread Liam O'Toole
On Sun, 19 Apr, 2020 at 19:11:55 +1000, elvis wrote: > > On 19/4/20 5:03 pm, Andrei POPESCU wrote: [...] > > Note: "bouncing" is also called "redirect" in some mail clients and is > > *not* forwarding (should probably mention this in the wiki).U > > In over 25 years of email I have never come

Re: Kind reminder: please don't reply to and/or quote spam, ever

2020-04-19 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 19 apr 20, 10:03:07, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > * DO report spam only by bouncing it to report-lists...@lists.debian.org > > https://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser#posting-spam > > Note: "bouncing" is also called "redirect" in some mail clients and is > *not* forwarding (should probab

Re: Bouncing a message from Thunderbird [was: Kind reminder: please don't reply to and/or quote spam, ever]

2020-04-19 Thread Michael Howard
On 19/04/2020 10:38, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 07:11:55PM +1000, elvis wrote: On 19/4/20 5:03 pm, Andrei POPESCU wrote: Dear List Subscribers, If you want to help (or at least not make it more difficult) please: * do NOT reply to spam, ever! (this makes it hard or even

Re: Kind reminder: please don't reply to and/or quote spam, ever

2020-04-19 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 19 apr 20, 11:41:52, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 12:21:02PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > [...] > > > Apparently the "official" name (to be confirmed) is "remailing" and it > > involves resending the message (mostly untouched) to another address. > > Ah, I see.

Re: For all specimens of Homo sapiens - about COVID19

2020-04-19 Thread deloptes
aces and eights wrote: > a few things > The white house co-ordinator says "we don't have flu anymore". > It is difficult to believe the figures, states get 39 thousand dollars for > each Covid-19 death so they are putting Covid-19 down as cause of death > whatever the cause. US was always a bit cr

Re: Seeing command history when using MATE terminal

2020-04-19 Thread David
On Sat, 18 Apr 2020 at 22:15, wrote: > On Saturday, April 18, 2020 07:00:53 AM David wrote: > > On Sat, 18 Apr 2020 at 20:20, Richard Owlett wrote: > > > I can see any *ONE* previous commands by using the up-arrow key. > > > But I need to see the *complete* history. F1 is no "Help". > > > Obviou

Re: Kind reminder: please don't reply to and/or quote spam, ever

2020-04-19 Thread tomas
On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 12:21:02PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: [...] > Apparently the "official" name (to be confirmed) is "remailing" and it > involves resending the message (mostly untouched) to another address. Ah, I see. I was betting on "forwarding", but later it occurred to me that this

Bouncing a message from Thunderbird [was: Kind reminder: please don't reply to and/or quote spam, ever]

2020-04-19 Thread tomas
On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 07:11:55PM +1000, elvis wrote: > > On 19/4/20 5:03 pm, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > >Dear List Subscribers, > > > > > >If you want to help (or at least not make it more difficult) please: > > > >* do NOT reply to spam, ever! (this makes it hard or even impossible to > >remove it

Re: Kind reminder: please don't reply to and/or quote spam, ever

2020-04-19 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 19 apr 20, 19:11:55, elvis wrote: > On 19/4/20 5:03 pm, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > > * DO report spam only by bouncing it to report-lists...@lists.debian.org > > > > https://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser#posting-spam > > > > Note: "bouncing" is also called "redirect" in some mail cl

Re: Kind reminder: please don't reply to and/or quote spam, ever

2020-04-19 Thread elvis
On 19/4/20 5:03 pm, Andrei POPESCU wrote: Dear List Subscribers, If you want to help (or at least not make it more difficult) please: * do NOT reply to spam, ever! (this makes it hard or even impossible to remove it from the archives, since it is now a part of a legitimate thread) * do NOT

Re: inactive uploaders maintainers what to do?

2020-04-19 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 19 apr 20, 09:36:17, Ben Tris wrote: > > Some package maintainers/uploaders seem inactive and/or email is gone. > Can I report this somewhere? And how, if so. Are you sure the persons are inactive or is it just one ore more packages that appear to be unmaintained? Maybe the e-mail addres

Please, don't reply to spam on-list

2020-04-19 Thread tomas
On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 08:58:36AM +0100, aces and eights wrote: > a few things > The white house co-ordinator says "we don't have flu anymore". [...] This is seriously off-topic. Besides you are replying to spam on-list. Please, pretty please, don't do that. See, this list is open, for a reason.

Re: inactive uploaders maintainers what to do?

2020-04-19 Thread Jean-Philippe MENGUAL
Hi, I am not sure of the process, but I would say you could: 1. report a bug requesting the package to be orphaned by the maintainer or, at least RFA (request for adoption) 2. without reaction, submit a NMU (non-maintainer upload) if you have a patch 3. FInding a sponsorship to upload on debia

Re: Kind reminder: please don't reply to and/or quote spam, ever

2020-04-19 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 19 apr 20, 02:25:14, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 04/19/2020 02:03 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > > * DO report spam only by bouncing it to report-lists...@lists.debian.org > > > > https://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser#posting-spam > > > > Note: "bouncing" is also called "redirect" in

Re: For all specimens of Homo sapiens - about COVID19

2020-04-19 Thread aces and eights
a few things The white house co-ordinator says "we don't have flu anymore". It is difficult to believe the figures, states get 39 thousand dollars for each Covid-19 death so they are putting Covid-19 down as cause of death whatever the cause. UK was doing the same thing as Sweden until the media we

Re: Kind reminder: please don't reply to and/or quote spam, ever

2020-04-19 Thread tomas
On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 02:25:14AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 04/19/2020 02:03 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > >Dear List Subscribers, > > > > > >If you want to help (or at least not make it more difficult) please: > > > >* do NOT reply to spam, ever! (this makes it hard or even impossible to >

inactive uploaders maintainers what to do?

2020-04-19 Thread Ben Tris
Hello, Some package maintainers/uploaders seem inactive and/or email is gone. Can I report this somewhere? And how, if so. Nice Day, signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: For all specimens of Homo sapiens - about COVID19

2020-04-19 Thread deloptes
Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > And for the record, in the state of Illinois of the USA, there are still > fewer covid-19 deaths than murders in 2018. > Quoting a smart man, s/he who refuses to calculate is doomed. we have April - you get Italy style situation and very soon (exponent) you'll to crime

Re: For all specimens of Homo sapiens - about COVID19

2020-04-19 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
And for the record, in the state of Illinois of the USA, there are still fewer covid-19 deaths than murders in 2018. Quoting a smart man, s/he who refuses to calculate is doomed. On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 2:04 AM Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: > On 19.04.2020 04:55, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > And it

Re: apt-mark hold issue (apt Installed: 1.8.2 armhf)

2020-04-19 Thread Sven Hartge
Michael Howard wrote: > root@bamford:/etc# apt-mark hold sudo sudo-ldap > sudo set on hold. > sudo-ldap set on hold. > root@bamford:/etc# apt-mark showhold > bash > dash > sudo > sudo-ldap > Still good, but then, > root@bamford:/etc# apt-mark hold xterm > xterm set on hold. > root@bamford:/etc#

Re: Kind reminder: please don't reply to and/or quote spam, ever

2020-04-19 Thread Richard Owlett
On 04/19/2020 02:03 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: Dear List Subscribers, If you want to help (or at least not make it more difficult) please: * do NOT reply to spam, ever! (this makes it hard or even impossible to remove it from the archives, since it is now a part of a legitimate thread) * do NO

Re: gedit and kate have window decorations while featherpad and mousepad doesn't

2020-04-19 Thread tomas
On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 10:10:34AM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Du, 19 apr 20, 04:59:54, shirish शिरीष wrote: > > > > I am on Debian testing (bullseye, fully updated ) and have found some > > oddities [...] > The hardware has no concept of window decorations, only pixels and what > colour t

Re: gedit and kate have window decorations while featherpad and mousepad doesn't

2020-04-19 Thread shirish शिरीष
at bottom :- On 19/04/2020, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Du, 19 apr 20, 04:59:54, shirish शिरीष wrote: >> >> I am on Debian testing (bullseye, fully updated ) and have found some >> oddities . For instance gedit and kate appear smaller but with full >> window decorations by which I mean the minimiz

Re: Kind reminder: please don't reply to and/or quote spam, ever

2020-04-19 Thread tomas
On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 10:03:07AM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > Dear List Subscribers, > > > If you want to help (or at least not make it more difficult) please: > > * do NOT reply to spam, ever! (this makes it hard or even impossible to > remove it from the archives, since it is now a part o

Re: gedit and kate have window decorations while featherpad and mousepad doesn't

2020-04-19 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 19 apr 20, 04:59:54, shirish शिरीष wrote: > > I am on Debian testing (bullseye, fully updated ) and have found some > oddities . For instance gedit and kate appear smaller but with full > window decorations by which I mean the minimize, maximize and close > icons on the top left of the appl

Re: For all specimens of Homo sapiens - about COVID19

2020-04-19 Thread Alexander V. Makartsev
On 19.04.2020 04:55, Gene Heskett wrote: > > And it isn't even properly coded pgp. Draw your own conclusions about > its veracity. > Cheers, Gene Heskett According to news on the Internet these kinds of bait-mail become much common these days. Every low-life scumbag is now trying to cash-in on C

Kind reminder: please don't reply to and/or quote spam, ever

2020-04-19 Thread Andrei POPESCU
Dear List Subscribers, If you want to help (or at least not make it more difficult) please: * do NOT reply to spam, ever! (this makes it hard or even impossible to remove it from the archives, since it is now a part of a legitimate thread) * do NOT quote spam, not even partially (this confuse