Re: Desktop environments

2020-04-10 Thread Jude DaShiell
a desktop environment manages desktop resources. No, you cannot use a rodent with all desktop managers either. Two I'm thinking of in this category definitely ratpoison and probably stump-wm. On Sat, 11 Apr 2020, davidson wrote: > Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2020 00:36:21 > From: davidson > To: debian-u

Re: Desktop environments

2020-04-10 Thread davidson
On Fri, 10 Apr 2020, mick crane wrote: Well I was thinking is a valid question. What's the deal with these desktop environments ? I wonder this too. I thought is like a desktop with pictures so you know where everything is and then you click and start a program that does something They're

Re: New RAM, does Debian has a tool to benchmark?

2020-04-10 Thread David Christensen
On 2020-04-09 23:26, dalios wrote: Thank you to both of you for your answers. I am grateful for your time. My PC is a desktop PC, see hardware details at the end of this email. Here is more info, answering your questions: * I purchased a single 8 GB module and currently the PC has a 4 GB m

Re: using Webex from Stretch

2020-04-10 Thread Russell L. Harris
On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 07:49:32PM +, Kleene, Steven (kleenesj) wrote: And I need to locate a working microphone. One of the best tools for such a need is the Shure X2U. It is a single-channel broadcast-grade XLR-to-USB (1.0) converter with integrated stereo headphone amplifier (1/8-inch T

Re: Desktop environments

2020-04-10 Thread rhkramer
Resending to list, unintentionally sent my reply off list. On 2020-04-10 20:21, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday, April 10, 2020 02:50:14 PM mick crane wrote: Well I was thinking is a valid question. What's the deal with these desktop environments ? I thought is like a desktop with pictures

Re: Desktop environments

2020-04-10 Thread rhkramer
Hmm, I wasn't paying attention -- my regular reply went to Mick, only, not to the list, resending. Will do the same for his reply. On Friday, April 10, 2020 02:50:14 PM mick crane wrote: > Well I was thinking is a valid question. > What's the deal with these desktop environments ? > I thought is

Re: using Webex from Stretch

2020-04-10 Thread Carl Fink
On 4/10/20 3:49 PM, Kleene, Steven (kleenesj) wrote: I got what I needed yesterday, given that I didn't want to speak anyway. I'm grateful for all the help here. Now I need to read up on how to initiate a Webex conference (maybe from my wife's Windows box) so that I can do testing whenever I wa

Re: using Webex from Stretch

2020-04-10 Thread Kleene, Steven (kleenesj)
On Monday, April 6, 2020 12:52 PM, I wrote: > My employer is now having lots of audio/video conferences, some of which I > should at least listen to. Unfortunately, they are doing the conferences > with Cisco Webex. Webex uses an app that's not available for Debian Linux. On Friday, April 10, 2

Re: Desktop environments

2020-04-10 Thread Martin
Not sure what exactly is your question aiming at. Each desktop environment is different, kind of like the controls inside a car, while they all are made to bring you from A to B. Still for my trying out tiling window managers was a big step in becoming more productive. I love my i3wm. Try them out

Desktop environments

2020-04-10 Thread mick crane
Well I was thinking is a valid question. What's the deal with these desktop environments ? I thought is like a desktop with pictures so you know where everything is and then you click and start a program that does something and the desktop gets out of the way ? Is that not the purpose ? mick

Re: voicecall via LTE internal modem

2020-04-10 Thread deloptes
Eri wrote: > I'm using Debian Bullseye on a Thinkpad T490s with FIBOCOM L830-EB-00 WWAN > modem. > I would like to know if it is possible to make voice calls with that > modem. I was able to make a phone call with AT COMMANDS > ATD + NUMBER; > or answer > ATA > > Tha user manual of the modem says

Re: geolocation services disabled and Gnome maps

2020-04-10 Thread John Hasler
Anil writes: > Is there any way I could check to see exactly where Gnome Maps is getting > the location from? What is the default geolocation service installed by > Gnome or Debian? I misread Gnome Maps as Google Maps. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: geolocation services disabled and Gnome maps

2020-04-10 Thread Curt
On 2020-04-10, mick crane wrote: > > What I'm not understanding is why there are these complex window manager > things. You're hijacking the thread (and trolling). Please refrain. > Presumably people want an easy way to click on a picture and make use > some software ? > > > mick --

Re: geolocation services disabled and Gnome maps

2020-04-10 Thread John Hasler
Reco writes: > I'm saying that it can. Too lazy to dig into the Javascript that GNOME > Maps is written. Explains the behaviour OP's seeing IMO. It can also be explained by IP-based geolocation being accurate in that particular case, as it sometimes is. If the OP has a Google account Google has a

Re: geolocation services disabled and Gnome maps

2020-04-10 Thread mick crane
On 2020-04-09 13:49, Anil F Duggirala wrote: hello, I am running Gnome 3 in Debian Buster. I am wondering why, even though my Location Services are set to Off (and has always been set to Off), when I enter the Gnome Maps application, it determines and shows my location on the map. thank you, W

Re: geolocation services disabled and Gnome maps

2020-04-10 Thread David Wright
On Fri 10 Apr 2020 at 16:11:16 (-), Curt wrote: > On 2020-04-10, wrote: > > > >> So you're saying that Gnome Maps *uses* the geolocation library even in > >> the case of a user who has explicitly turned that "feature" off in his > >> privacy settings, in blatant disregard of those settings? >

Re: geolocation services disabled and Gnome maps

2020-04-10 Thread tomas
On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 04:11:16PM -, Curt wrote: > On 2020-04-10, wrote: [...] > > Perhaps just a misunderstanding [...] > > I just don't know. > > https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/privacy-location.html.en > > Geolocation, or location services, uses cell tower positioning,

voicecall via LTE internal modem

2020-04-10 Thread Eri
I'm using Debian Bullseye on a Thinkpad T490s with FIBOCOM L830-EB-00 WWAN modem. I would like to know if it is possible to make voice calls with that modem. I was able to make a phone call with AT COMMANDS ATD + NUMBER; or answer ATA Tha user manual of the modem says that voice calls are allowed,

Re: Can't get my Debian laptop to use my Radeon 520 Mobile graphics card

2020-04-10 Thread Jörg-Volker Peetz
Keywords are "hybrig graphics" and "PRIME". Maybe, these links can be helpful: https://wiki.debian.org/AtiHowTo https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PRIME Regards, Jörg.

Re: geolocation services disabled and Gnome maps

2020-04-10 Thread Curt
On 2020-04-10, wrote: > >> So you're saying that Gnome Maps *uses* the geolocation library even in >> the case of a user who has explicitly turned that "feature" off in his >> privacy settings, in blatant disregard of those settings? >> That is really an egregious bug, then, and should be reporte

Re: geolocation services disabled and Gnome maps

2020-04-10 Thread Curt
On 2020-04-10, Reco wrote: >> > >> > And GNOME Maps has this neat library as a dependency that can use >> > geolocation regardless of the said setting. >> >> So you're saying that Gnome Maps *uses* the geolocation library even in >> the case of a user who has explicitly turned that "feature" off

Re: geolocation services disabled and Gnome maps

2020-04-10 Thread tomas
On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 03:35:01PM -, Curt wrote: > On 2020-04-10, Reco wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 03:14:33PM -, Curt wrote: > >> On 2020-04-10, Reco wrote: > >> > > >> > The software behaviour does not depend on one's beliefs. > >> > >> It does and can quite often depend on *use

Re: geolocation services disabled and Gnome maps

2020-04-10 Thread Reco
On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 03:35:01PM -, Curt wrote: > On 2020-04-10, Reco wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 03:14:33PM -, Curt wrote: > >> On 2020-04-10, Reco wrote: > >> > > >> > The software behaviour does not depend on one's beliefs. > >> > >> It does and can quite often depend on *use

Re: geolocation services disabled and Gnome maps

2020-04-10 Thread Curt
On 2020-04-10, Reco wrote: > On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 03:14:33PM -, Curt wrote: >> On 2020-04-10, Reco wrote: >> > >> > The software behaviour does not depend on one's beliefs. >> >> It does and can quite often depend on *user configuration*, though, and the >> OP I >> believe has informed u

Re: geolocation services disabled and Gnome maps

2020-04-10 Thread Reco
On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 03:14:33PM -, Curt wrote: > On 2020-04-10, Reco wrote: > > > > The software behaviour does not depend on one's beliefs. > > It does and can quite often depend on *user configuration*, though, and the > OP I > believe has informed us he has *turned off* geolocation ser

Re: geolocation services disabled and Gnome maps

2020-04-10 Thread Curt
On 2020-04-10, Reco wrote: > > The software behaviour does not depend on one's beliefs. It does and can quite often depend on *user configuration*, though, and the OP I believe has informed us he has *turned off* geolocation services. https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/privacy-locati

xpdf woes, was Re: New RAM, does Debian has a tool to benchmark?

2020-04-10 Thread David Wright
On Fri 10 Apr 2020 at 09:26:44 (+0300), dalios wrote: […] > * With the 4 GB RAM that I now have available, I have noticed my PC > becoming slow and the memory usage going quite high. After booting, > with just Gnome running, I see conky reporting that memory usage goes > to something like 80

Re: geolocation services disabled and Gnome maps

2020-04-10 Thread David Wright
On Fri 10 Apr 2020 at 08:24:41 (-0500), Anil Felipe Duggirala wrote: > On Thu, Apr 9, 2020, at 11:16 AM, John Hasler wrote: > > It's just looking up your IP. The method isn't reliable (it usually > > puts me on the other side of the state) but it works more often than > > not. > > > I don't belie

Re: geolocation services disabled and Gnome maps

2020-04-10 Thread Reco
Hi. On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 08:24:41AM -0500, Anil Felipe Duggirala wrote: > On Thu, Apr 9, 2020, at 11:16 AM, John Hasler wrote: > > It's just looking up your IP. The method isn't reliable (it usually > > puts me on the other side of the state) but it works more often than > > not. > > I

Re: geolocation services disabled and Gnome maps

2020-04-10 Thread Curt
On 2020-04-10, wrote: > > > On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 08:24:41AM -0500, Anil Felipe Duggirala wrote: >> On Thu, Apr 9, 2020, at 11:16 AM, John Hasler wrote: >> > It's just looking up your IP. The method isn't reliable (it usually >> > puts me on the other side of the state) but it works more often

Re: geolocation services disabled and Gnome maps

2020-04-10 Thread John Hasler
I wrote: > It's just looking up your IP. The method isn't reliable (it usually > puts me on the other side of the state) but it works more often than > not. Anil Felipe Duggirala writes: > I don't believe this is the case. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geolocation_software -- John Hasler jhas

Re: geolocation services disabled and Gnome maps

2020-04-10 Thread tomas
On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 08:24:41AM -0500, Anil Felipe Duggirala wrote: > On Thu, Apr 9, 2020, at 11:16 AM, John Hasler wrote: > > It's just looking up your IP. The method isn't reliable (it usually > > puts me on the other side of the state) but it works more often than > > not. > > > I don't bel

Re: geolocation services disabled and Gnome maps

2020-04-10 Thread Anil Felipe Duggirala
On Thu, Apr 9, 2020, at 11:16 AM, John Hasler wrote: > It's just looking up your IP. The method isn't reliable (it usually > puts me on the other side of the state) but it works more often than > not. > I don't believe this is the case. It's putting me right on the spot where I am. I live in Col

[SOLVED]Re: Partition unreadable [was: Re: Debian Stretch broken !]

2020-04-10 Thread Bernard
Le 09/04/2020 20:11, Greg Wooledge a écrit : On Thu, Apr 09, 2020 at 08:04:31PM +0200, Bernard wrote: [ 15541.577] (EE) AIGLX error: dlopen of /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/dri/nouveau_dri.so failed (/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/dri/nouveau_dri.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or dir

Re: systemd-networkd: IPv6 prefix delegation lost when changing prefixes

2020-04-10 Thread Vincent Truchseß
Hi Tobias, I've had the same Issue here delegating prefixes to my VPN-Gateway in my home-hetwork. My solution back then was to ditch systemd-networkd for this setup and rely on configuring dhcpcd and radvd accordingly. Systemd's DHCP-implementation seems to a little bit out of whack, depending on

Re: New RAM, does Debian has a tool to benchmark?

2020-04-10 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 09:26:44AM +0300, dalios wrote: > * The computer is used for basic office tasks and the usual internet > browsing (sometimes with many firefox tabs open). I am not using any > particularly heavy programs like scientific computing, video rendering > etc. However I am ex

systemd-networkd: IPv6 prefix delegation lost when changing prefixes

2020-04-10 Thread Tobias Brink
Hello debian-user, I have an internet connection via a router provided by my ISP. I have a Linux box (Debian Buster) between this router and my internal network in order to provide nicer firewalling and some services like OpenVPN, wifi for guests without access to the internal network, and so on.

Re: New RAM, does Debian has a tool to benchmark?

2020-04-10 Thread Marco Möller
On 10.04.20 08:26, dalios wrote: (...) CPU Cache: 3 MB (...) Working with much older hardware than you and using Debian as a Desktop with GUI (KDE) and not as a Server, I found the CPU Cache to be the most important piece of hardware letting you "feel" your desktop "responding" slow or fa

Re: using Webex from Stretch

2020-04-10 Thread tomas
On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 07:55:25AM -, Curt wrote: > On 2020-04-06, Kleene, Steven (kleenesj) wrote: > > My employer is now having lots of audio/video conferences, some of which I > > should at least listen to. Unfortunately, they are doing the conferences > > with Cisco Webex. Webex uses an

Re: using Webex from Stretch

2020-04-10 Thread Curt
On 2020-04-06, Kleene, Steven (kleenesj) wrote: > My employer is now having lots of audio/video conferences, some of which I > should at least listen to. Unfortunately, they are doing the conferences > with Cisco Webex. Webex uses an app that's not available for Debian Linux. There's a *browser