Re: LibreOffice takes about 35 seconds to fully open

On Sat, 8 Feb 2020 10:28:59 +0800 kaye n wrote: > *So, how long does it take to load the second time?* > About 4 seconds. > > After doing this: > > > *kaye@laptop:~$ sudo suroot@laptop:/home/kaye# sync && echo 3 > > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches* > Yes, it opened slow again. Slow disk then? Shoul

Re: LibreOffice takes about 35 seconds to fully open

On Fri, 7 Feb 2020 16:25:28 -0800 Patrick Bartek wrote: Hello Patrick, >Well, a slow dual core CPU is certainly a problem with today's >software. And everything else you say about older tech, speed, etc. noted. Thus far, the only real issue is the slow load of LO, first time. For the sort of

Re: local network capability scanner?

On Friday 07 February 2020 14:29:08 David Wright wrote: > On Fri 07 Feb 2020 at 11:24:46 (-0500), Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Friday 07 February 2020 10:20:45 David Wright wrote: > > > On Fri 07 Feb 2020 at 08:12:18 (-0500), Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > I was trying different ways to move a kernel s

Re: LibreOffice takes about 35 seconds to fully open

*So, how long does it take to load the second time?* About 4 seconds. After doing this: *kaye@laptop:~$ sudo suroot@laptop:/home/kaye# sync && echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches* Yes, it opened slow again. Slow disk then? Should I replace it soon? *Drives? Presumably Patrick's fancy system u

Re: how to seamlessly play audio clip

On Fri 07 Feb 2020 at 23:53:06 (+), Long Wind wrote: > i use mplayer -loop 0 to play white noise(it might help sleep by masking > other noise) > but when it reach end and restart to play againthere's some interval, which > isn't desirable > any mplayer option or other player i can use so that

Re: local network capability scanner?

On Fri 07 Feb 2020 at 16:57:59 (-0500), Stefan Monnier wrote: > > I'm not aware that there's a faster way of sending the files once > > you've unpacked the archive locally. After all, you've thrown away the > > benefits of compression and aggregation. > > rsync? Sure, if you're updating a tree. B

Re: local network capability scanner?

On Fri 07 Feb 2020 at 18:49:20 (-0500), Gene Heskett wrote: > On Friday 07 February 2020 16:24:51 Stefan Monnier wrote: > > > > also claims to be a gigahertz capable switch. > > > > IIRC gigabit ethernet doesn't run at gigahertz frequencies. > > > > > But file moves to/from the machines in the gar

Re: Fresh install UEFI debian-10.2.0-amd64-xfce-CD-1 will not boot

Apologies for the slow response - I've had 3 back-to-back conferences and I'm just catching up on mail... :-/ David wrote: >On 2020-01-30 16:47, Steve McIntyre wrote: >> OK. How exactly have you partitioned the target USB drive? What >> files are on the EFI System Partition there? Did you tell the

Re: change email addy

On 2020-02-07 at 19:20, Daryl wrote: > On Wed, 5 Feb 2020 18:01:36 -0700 ghe wrote: > >> I need to change my email address for this list. There seems to be >> a lot about subscribing and unsubscribing on Debian's site, but I >> couldn't find anything about a new address. >> >> Could someone wh

Re: how to seamlessly play audio clip

On Fri, 7 Feb 2020 23:53:06 + (UTC) Long Wind wrote: > i use mplayer -loop 0 to play white noise(it might help sleep by > masking other noise) but when it reach end and restart to play > againthere's some interval, which isn't desirable any mplayer option > or other player i can use so that i

Re: LibreOffice takes about 35 seconds to fully open

On Fri, 7 Feb 2020 20:02:57 + Brad Rogers wrote: > On Fri, 7 Feb 2020 10:45:43 -0800 > Patrick Bartek wrote: > > Hello Patrick, > > >On Fri, 7 Feb 2020 06:45:43 + > >Brad Rogers wrote: > >> I note that Patrick says his starts in 3 or 4 secs. I was going to > >I use version 6.1.

Re: change email addy

On Wed, 5 Feb 2020 18:01:36 -0700 ghe wrote: > I need to change my email address for this list. There seems to be a > lot about subscribing and unsubscribing on Debian's site, but I > couldn't find anything about a new address. > > Could someone who knows how to do this please let me know? > >

Re: local network capability scanner?

On Friday 07 February 2020 16:24:51 Stefan Monnier wrote: > > also claims to be a gigahertz capable switch. > > IIRC gigabit ethernet doesn't run at gigahertz frequencies. > > > But file moves to/from the machines in the garage seems to indicate > > theres a slow connection of around 10Mb/s somepl

change email addy

I need to change my email address for this list. There seems to be a lot about subscribing and unsubscribing on Debian's site, but I couldn't find anything about a new address. Could someone who knows how to do this please let me know? And don't send to the list. Send to ghe2...@protonmail.com.

Re: local network capability scanner?

> I'm not aware that there's a faster way of sending the files once > you've unpacked the archive locally. After all, you've thrown away the > benefits of compression and aggregation. rsync? Stefan

Re: local network capability scanner?

> also claims to be a gigahertz capable switch. IIRC gigabit ethernet doesn't run at gigahertz frequencies. > But file moves to/from the machines in the garage seems to indicate > theres a slow connection of around 10Mb/s someplace in that path. Is that really 10Mb/s (aka ~1MB/s)? Ste

Re: Laptop: External monitor, keyboard, and mouse "disabled" -- how re-enable without rebooting?

On 8/2/20 4:02 am, Ralph Katz wrote: On 2/7/20 2:00 AM, David Christensen wrote: [snip] I have found that if I close the lid on the laptop, with or without an external monitor or KVM connected, I am unable to get the display working again without a reboot. I had a similar problem with a Thi

Re: trouble with my account's groups and strange 'id' result

On Fri, Feb 07, 2020 at 08:53:29PM +0100, Patrice Duroux wrote: > Currently on a Debian Sid system, I am facing this inconsistent 'id' result: > > patrice@hp-dark:~$ id > uid=1000(patrice) gid=1000(patrice) > groupes=1000(patrice),4(adm),24(cdrom),25(floppy),27(sudo),29(audio),30(dip),44(video),4

Re: Does “apt-get install” follow “recommends” links recursively?

On Thu, Feb 06, 2020 at 01:50:01AM +0100, Rich Morin wrote: > Debian's "apt-get install" command is documented as following > "recommends" links by default. It also follows "depends" links, > presumably in a recursive fashion. However, I haven't been able to > find out if it also follows recommends

Re: LibreOffice takes about 35 seconds to fully open

On Fri, 7 Feb 2020 10:45:43 -0800 Patrick Bartek wrote: Hello Patrick, >On Fri, 7 Feb 2020 06:45:43 + >Brad Rogers wrote: >> I note that Patrick says his starts in 3 or 4 secs. I was going to >I use version 6.1. When I load via the "libreoffice" menu item, I get >a window that lists all t

Re: Anyone with experience scanning with Epson

On Fri, Feb 07, 2020 at 07:06:37PM +, Brian wrote: Like protocols, everyone can have their own set of defaults on buster. In which case, they can sort their own problems out. :) Or you just don't waste time complaining about something that's a no-op on a properly functioning system with a

trouble with my account's groups and strange 'id' result

Hi, Currently on a Debian Sid system, I am facing this inconsistent 'id' result: patrice@hp-dark:~$ id uid=1000(patrice) gid=1000(patrice) groupes=1000(patrice),4(adm),24(cdrom),25(floppy),27(sudo),29(audio),30(dip),44(video),46(plugdev),50(staff),100(users),102(systemd-journal),108(netdev),113(

Re: local network capability scanner?

On Fri 07 Feb 2020 at 11:24:46 (-0500), Gene Heskett wrote: > On Friday 07 February 2020 10:20:45 David Wright wrote: > > > On Fri 07 Feb 2020 at 08:12:18 (-0500), Gene Heskett wrote: > > > I was trying different ways to move a kernel src to the pi for > > > making and also reached the conclusion

Re: Anyone with experience scanning with Epson

On Fri 07 Feb 2020 at 11:53:12 -0500, Michael Stone wrote: > On Fri, Feb 07, 2020 at 03:36:55PM +, Brian wrote: > > On Fri 07 Feb 2020 at 10:25:22 -0500, Michael Stone wrote: > > > > > On Fri, Feb 07, 2020 at 03:05:31PM +, Brian wrote: > > > > On Fri 07 Feb 2020 at 09:37:17 -0500, Michael

Re: LibreOffice takes about 35 seconds to fully open

On Fri, 7 Feb 2020 09:09:15 + Joe wrote: > On Fri, 7 Feb 2020 06:45:43 + > Brad Rogers wrote: > > > On Fri, 7 Feb 2020 10:17:09 +0800 > > kaye n wrote: > > > > Hello kaye, > > > > >I was just wondering if it takes about 35 seconds for your Debian > > >system to > > > > At leas

Re: LibreOffice takes about 35 seconds to fully open

On Fri, 7 Feb 2020 06:45:43 + Brad Rogers wrote: > On Fri, 7 Feb 2020 10:17:09 +0800 > kaye n wrote: > > Hello kaye, > > >I was just wondering if it takes about 35 seconds for your Debian > >system to > > At least. As you say, subsequent starts are much faster. > > I note that Patrick

Re: LibreOffice takes about 35 seconds to fully open

On 2/6/20 8:27 PM, kaye n wrote: > By the way, it only takes 35 seconds on the first execution.  If I close > libreoffice, and open i again, it's really not so slow. FWIW, on my laptop with a similar configuration, it takes 6 seconds to open LO initially. i3-7130U CPU @ 2.70GHz 8Gb memory/ 2.2Gb

Re: Laptop: External monitor, keyboard, and mouse "disabled" -- how re-enable without rebooting?

On 2/7/20 2:00 AM, David Christensen wrote: [snip] > I have found that if I close the lid on the laptop, with or without an > external monitor or KVM connected, I am unable to get the display > working again without a reboot. [snip] Maybe it's this bug: light-locker, lightdm: screen stays off af

Re: Anyone with experience scanning with Epson

On 2/7/2020 10:53 AM, Michael Stone wrote: On Fri, Feb 07, 2020 at 03:36:55PM +, Brian wrote: On Fri 07 Feb 2020 at 10:25:22 -0500, Michael Stone wrote: On Fri, Feb 07, 2020 at 03:05:31PM +, Brian wrote: > On Fri 07 Feb 2020 at 09:37:17 -0500, Michael Stone wrote: > > > On Fri, Feb

Re: local network capability scanner?

On 2020-02-07 16:24, Gene Heskett wrote: I don't use fish that I know of. Thats not to say mc isn't using it. In which case someone has been playing with mc that has no clue what they are doing. mick@slinky:~$ mc [connect shell link option] fish: Waiting for initial line... Enter passphrase

Re: Anyone with experience scanning with Epson

On Fri, Feb 07, 2020 at 03:36:55PM +, Brian wrote: On Fri 07 Feb 2020 at 10:25:22 -0500, Michael Stone wrote: On Fri, Feb 07, 2020 at 03:05:31PM +, Brian wrote: > On Fri 07 Feb 2020 at 09:37:17 -0500, Michael Stone wrote: > > > On Fri, Feb 07, 2020 at 10:36:11AM +0800, kaye n wrote: > >

Re: local network capability scanner?

On Feb 07, 2020, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Friday 07 February 2020 05:53:05 Dan Purgert wrote: >> [...] >> a "gigahertz" switch? neat :) (I think you meant gigabit again). > > Guilty. Blame it on oldtimers. Hehe, and I was busy scouring Amazon too... > [...] > Anyway, I found an answer, iperf

Re: local network capability scanner?

On Friday 07 February 2020 10:20:45 David Wright wrote: > On Fri 07 Feb 2020 at 08:12:18 (-0500), Gene Heskett wrote: > > I was trying different ways to move a kernel src to the pi for > > making and also reached the conclusion that mc was for some reason > > terminally slow at unpacking an .xz ke

Re: guys

On 2020-02-02 15:01, Michael Stone wrote: On Sat, Feb 01, 2020 at 07:31:31PM +, mick crane wrote: I probably shouldn't post this. I see all these questions people trying to get their installations to work. It is supposed to be files with documentation what they do. Is there a reason things

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Re: Anyone with experience scanning with Epson

On Fri 07 Feb 2020 at 10:25:22 -0500, Michael Stone wrote: > On Fri, Feb 07, 2020 at 03:05:31PM +, Brian wrote: > > On Fri 07 Feb 2020 at 09:37:17 -0500, Michael Stone wrote: > > > > > On Fri, Feb 07, 2020 at 10:36:11AM +0800, kaye n wrote: > > > > Hello Friends! > > > > > > > > I'm running:

Re: Anyone with experience scanning with Epson

On Fri, Feb 07, 2020 at 03:05:31PM +, Brian wrote: On Fri 07 Feb 2020 at 09:37:17 -0500, Michael Stone wrote: On Fri, Feb 07, 2020 at 10:36:11AM +0800, kaye n wrote: > Hello Friends! > > I'm running: > Kernel: 4.19.0-6-amd64 x86_64 > bits: 64 > Desktop: Xfce 4.12.4 > Distro: Debian GNU/Linu

Re: local network capability scanner?

On Fri 07 Feb 2020 at 08:12:18 (-0500), Gene Heskett wrote: > > I was trying different ways to move a kernel src to the pi for making and > also reached the conclusion that mc was for some reason terminally slow > at unpacking an .xz kernel and writing the unpack across the network. It > was pr

Re: Anyone with experience scanning with Epson

On Fri 07 Feb 2020 at 09:37:17 -0500, Michael Stone wrote: > On Fri, Feb 07, 2020 at 10:36:11AM +0800, kaye n wrote: > > Hello Friends! > > > > I'm running: > > Kernel: 4.19.0-6-amd64 x86_64 > > bits: 64 > > Desktop: Xfce 4.12.4 > > Distro: Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster) > > > > My printer is an E

Re: Anyone with experience scanning with Epson

On Fri, Feb 07, 2020 at 10:36:11AM +0800, kaye n wrote: Hello Friends! I'm running: Kernel: 4.19.0-6-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: Xfce 4.12.4 Distro: Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster) My printer is an Epson L220.  It's connected to my laptop's USB port. The command lsusb shows: Bus 002 Device 003

Re: local network capability scanner?

Gene Heskett wrote: ... > So I stopped that, killed the partial copy, backed out and copied the > whole image to the pi in just 2 or 3 minutes, with mc, then unxz'd it on > the pi in maybe 3 minutes. Made sure it was set for arch/arm with a > bcm2835_defconfig, verified it said fully preemptibl

Re: local network capability scanner?

On Friday 07 February 2020 06:24:10 Jeremy Nicoll wrote: > On Fri, 7 Feb 2020, at 07:04, Gene Heskett wrote: > > But file moves to/from the machines in the garage seems to indicate > > theres a slow connection of around 10Mb/s someplace in that path. > > Later you said: > > But on really big write

Re: local network capability scanner?

On Fri, 7 Feb 2020, at 07:04, Gene Heskett wrote: > But file moves to/from the machines in the garage seems to indicate > theres a slow connection of around 10Mb/s someplace in that path. Later you said: > But on really big writes, the ssd's decay to around 17-20 mb/s. Surely here you meant MB/

Re: local network capability scanner?

On Friday 07 February 2020 05:53:05 Dan Purgert wrote: > On Feb 07, 2020, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Greetings all; > > > > My local network has 2 8 port switches, one here in this room that > > claims to be a gigabit and managed. > > > > One of its ports is connected to the upstream port of another

Re: local network capability scanner?

On Feb 07, 2020, Gene Heskett wrote: > Greetings all; > > My local network has 2 8 port switches, one here in this room that claims > to be a gigabit and managed. > > One of its ports is connected to the upstream port of another dumber > unmanaged 8 port switch that feeds the machines in the g

Re: Anyone with experience scanning with Epson

On Fri 07 Feb 2020 at 10:36:11 +0800, kaye n wrote: > Hello Friends! > > I'm running: > Kernel: 4.19.0-6-amd64 x86_64 > bits: 64 > Desktop: Xfce 4.12.4 > Distro: Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster) > > My printer is an Epson L220. It's connected to my laptop's USB port. > > The command lsusb shows: >

Re: local network capability scanner?

On Friday 07 February 2020 03:55:32 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Vi, 07 feb 20, 03:12:08, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Which tells me its the poor prolonged write speeds of the ssd's that > > are the main contributors to the slow big files problem. Not much I > > can do about that. It is what it is. > >

Re: LibreOffice takes about 35 seconds to fully open

On 2020-02-07, kaye n wrote: > > I was just wondering if it takes about 35 seconds for your Debian system to > open LibreOffice. Mine does. My Debian is: > Seems excessive. (Here it's molasses too, but "only" 20 seconds.) All I can think of to suggest is to try starting LO from the command li

Re: Force device node link creation

On 2020-02-07, Christoph Pleger wrote: > > I have already tried udevadm trigger together with udevadm settle, but > it did not help. Though it seemed to be the solution till Debian 9 > inclusively. Have you tried reloading the rules first? udevadm control --reload-rules && udevadm trigger

Re: LibreOffice takes about 35 seconds to fully open

On Fri, 7 Feb 2020 09:09:15 + Joe wrote: Hello Joe, >Drives? Presumably Patrick's fancy system uses SSD, maybe the OP has >real hard drives. Here, everything else loads faster than LO, all from the same drive. So, whilst I agree that drive technology/speed may well be a factor, it's almost

Re: LibreOffice takes about 35 seconds to fully open

On Fri, 7 Feb 2020 06:45:43 + Brad Rogers wrote: > On Fri, 7 Feb 2020 10:17:09 +0800 > kaye n wrote: > > Hello kaye, > > >I was just wondering if it takes about 35 seconds for your Debian > >system to > > At least. As you say, subsequent starts are much faster. > > I note that Patrick

Re: Laptop: External monitor, keyboard, and mouse "disabled" -- how re-enable without rebooting?

On 2020-02-06 07:45, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: I've installed Buster on a Dell Inspiron 1501 laptop. I have it connected to an external monitor, keyboard, and mouse via a KVM switch. I thouight all was well, but now, a day later (with the KVM switched to other computers), switching the KVM back

Re: local network capability scanner?

On Vi, 07 feb 20, 03:12:08, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Which tells me its the poor prolonged write speeds of the ssd's that are > the main contributors to the slow big files problem. Not much I can do > about that. It is what it is. If you're into testing you could try transferring to/from RAM (e

Re: local network capability scanner?

On Friday 07 February 2020 02:44:11 john doe wrote: > On 2/7/2020 8:04 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Greetings all; > > > > My local network has 2 8 port switches, one here in this room that > > claims to be a gigabit and managed. > > > > One of its ports is connected to the upstream port of another

Re: local network capability scanner?

On Friday 07 February 2020 02:17:59 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Vi, 07 feb 20, 02:04:17, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Greetings all; > > > > My local network has 2 8 port switches, one here in this room that > > claims to be a gigabit and managed. > > > > One of its ports is connected to the upstream po