Re: systemdq [Solved]

2019-12-29 Thread Reco
On Sun, Dec 29, 2019 at 02:57:19PM -0700, ghe wrote: > On 12/29/19 10:21 AM, Reco wrote: > > > On Sun, Dec 29, 2019 at 09:40:29AM -0700, ghe wrote: > >> Somebody just forgot to enable SSH while preparing the Raspian Buster > >> release, it looks like. > > > > Nope. It was deliberate - [1] (note t

Re: Re: Re: No security support for binutils and libqt5webkit5, what to do?

2019-12-29 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Andreas (2019-12-30 03:44:43) > > > > Binutils is supported upstream > > > > > > that's reassuring. But were is Debian communicating this important > > > bit of information? > > > I am not so sure that it is reassuring. > > > Question is not if upstream supports their own (continuously c

Re: Re: Re: No security support for binutils and libqt5webkit5, what to do?

2019-12-29 Thread Andreas
> > > Binutils is supported upstream > > > > that's reassuring. But were is Debian communicating this important bit > > of information? > I am not so sure that it is reassuring. > Question is not if upstream supports their own (continuously changing) > code, but if the stable code distributed wi

Re: systemdq [Solved]

2019-12-29 Thread David Wright
On Sun 29 Dec 2019 at 14:57:19 (-0700), ghe wrote: > On 12/29/19 10:21 AM, Reco wrote: > > On Sun, Dec 29, 2019 at 09:40:29AM -0700, ghe wrote: > >> Somebody just forgot to enable SSH while preparing the Raspian Buster > >> release, it looks like. > > > > Nope. It was deliberate - [1] (note the "s

Re: systemdq

2019-12-29 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 29 December 2019 17:19:06 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Sun, Dec 29, 2019 at 05:11:18PM -0500, chris wrote: > > There's nothing wrong with not being a fan of systemd. > > Absolutely not. Myself, I'm not a fan either. > > > It's good to let people know there's a active community that isn't

Re: Re: No security support for binutils and libqt5webkit5, what to do?

2019-12-29 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Andreas (2019-12-30 00:49:10) > > Binutils is supported upstream > > Thanks, > > that's reassuring. But were is Debian communicating this important bit > of information? I am not so sure that it is reassuring. Question is not if upstream supports their own (continuously changing) code,

Re: Re: No security support for binutils and libqt5webkit5, what to do?

2019-12-29 Thread Andreas
> Binutils is supported upstream Thanks, that's reassuring. But were is Debian communicating this important bit of information? Thanks again, Andreas

Re: Re: No security support for binutils and libqt5webkit5, what to do?

2019-12-29 Thread Andreas
And the same for libqt5webkit5: * Source:qtwebkit-opensource-src Details: No security support upstream and backports not feasible, only for use on trusted content Affected binary package: - libqt5webkit5:amd64 It's a real problem, IMHO, that essential parts of kde depend on something like

Re: systemdq

2019-12-29 Thread tomas
On Sun, Dec 29, 2019 at 05:11:18PM -0500, chris wrote: > There's nothing wrong with not being a fan of systemd. Absolutely not. Myself, I'm not a fan either. > It's good to let people know there's a active community that isn't > overly impressed [...] But what I definitely don't like either is t

Re: systemdq

2019-12-29 Thread chris
There's nothing wrong with not being a fan of systemd. It's good to let people know there's a active community that isn't overly impressed and the link also shows that recent poll shows its quite popular position that there should be alternatives supported. Thankfully it's still possible to have a

Re: systemdq [Solved]

2019-12-29 Thread ghe
On 12/29/19 10:21 AM, Reco wrote: > On Sun, Dec 29, 2019 at 09:40:29AM -0700, ghe wrote: >> Somebody just forgot to enable SSH while preparing the Raspian Buster >> release, it looks like. > > Nope. It was deliberate - [1] (note the "ssh" part). Amazing. I'm a self-taught *nix geek, but I've nev

Re: No security support for binutils and libqt5webkit5, what to do?

2019-12-29 Thread Stephan Seitz
On So, Dez 29, 2019 at 08:48:40 +0100, Pascal Hambourg wrote: Why do you say that these packages have no or limited security support ? Because Debian says so. root@fsing ~ # dpkg -s debian-security-support Package: debian-security-support Status: install ok installed Priority: optional Section

Re: Windows install on 4 partitions?

2019-12-29 Thread Doug McGarrett
On 12/29/2019 11:05 AM, Kenneth Parker wrote: On Sun, Dec 29, 2019 at 10:30 AM Joe mailto:j...@jretrading.com>> wrote: On Sun, 29 Dec 2019 07:55:22 -0500 rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Saturday, December 28, 2019 03:46:53 PM Doug McGarrett wrote:

Re: No security support for binutils and libqt5webkit5, what to do?

2019-12-29 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 29/12/2019 à 20:28, Andreas Goesele a écrit : I just went from jessie to buster and I didn't discover any serious problem so far. But I tried to remove all packages where there is no or only limitid security support and ended up with 5 packages I don't think I should/can remove: binutils (a

Re: No security support for binutils and libqt5webkit5, what to do?

2019-12-29 Thread Mark Allums
On 12/29/2019 1:28 PM, Andreas Goesele wrote: Hi, I just went from jessie to buster and I didn't discover any serious problem so far. But I tried to remove all packages where there is no or only limitid security support and ended up with 5 packages I don't think I should/can remove: binutils

No security support for binutils and libqt5webkit5, what to do?

2019-12-29 Thread Andreas Goesele
Hi, I just went from jessie to buster and I didn't discover any serious problem so far. But I tried to remove all packages where there is no or only limitid security support and ended up with 5 packages I don't think I should/can remove: binutils (and binutils-common, libbinutils, binutils-x86-6

Re: systemdq [Solved]

2019-12-29 Thread Reco
On Sun, Dec 29, 2019 at 09:40:29AM -0700, ghe wrote: > Somebody just forgot to enable SSH while preparing the Raspian Buster > release, it looks like. Nope. It was deliberate - [1] (note the "ssh" part). > And I didn't know enough about systemd to > realize that was what the error message was tr

Re: systemdq [Solved]

2019-12-29 Thread Curt
On 2019-12-29, ghe wrote: > On 12/29/19 7:07 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > >> The correct solution to your problem would have been: >> >> systemctl enable ssh > > Exactly. > Right. Thanks for clearing that up! -- "J'ai pour me guérir du jugement des autres toute la distance qui me sépare de

Re: systemdq [Solved]

2019-12-29 Thread ghe
On 12/29/19 7:07 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > The correct solution to your problem would have been: > > systemctl enable ssh Exactly. The ssh.service files are identical on Debian Buster (this box) and on Raspian Buster (the RPi4 over there). As is the list of ssh* files -- was before I crea

Re: systemdq

2019-12-29 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 29 December 2019 08:21:30 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Sb, 28 dec 19, 12:06:25, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Saturday 28 December 2019 11:08:20 ghe wrote: > > > On 12/27/19 5:02 PM, Nektarios Katakis wrote: > > > > Have you tried removing openssh-server package and reinstalling > > > > it? >

Re: Windows install on 4 partitions? (was: Re: INQUIRY)

2019-12-29 Thread Kenneth Parker
On Sun, Dec 29, 2019 at 10:30 AM Joe wrote: > On Sun, 29 Dec 2019 07:55:22 -0500 > rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > > On Saturday, December 28, 2019 03:46:53 PM Doug McGarrett wrote: > > > I bought a new computer last summer, and it came with Windows 10 on > > > FOUR partitions! I shrank the Windows

Re: Windows install on 4 partitions? (was: Re: INQUIRY)

2019-12-29 Thread Joe
On Sun, 29 Dec 2019 07:55:22 -0500 rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Saturday, December 28, 2019 03:46:53 PM Doug McGarrett wrote: > > I bought a new computer last summer, and it came with Windows 10 on > > FOUR partitions! I shrank the Windows partition 4 to 100 GiB to > > allow a minimum Windows sy

Re: Windows install on 4 partitions?

2019-12-29 Thread Felix Miata
rhkra...@gmail.com composed on 2019-12-29 07:55 (UTC-0500): > Interesting, I'm wondering about the logic behind that -- was that an effort > to > segregate the user's "real" data (photos, videos, email, ...) on a separate > partition? > Which manufacturer? Probably: HP Dell Toshiba Lenovo and

Re: systemdq [Solved]

2019-12-29 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 28 dec 19, 15:07:27, ghe wrote: > Trivial in retrospect. > > There were several ssh* files in /lib/systemd/service. None named sshd*. > I copied the one named ssh.service to sshd.service, enabled it, > rebooted, and there is was. For the archives, the Debian package only ships the unit 'ss

Re: systemdq

2019-12-29 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Andrei POPESCU (2019-12-29 14:21:30) > On Sb, 28 dec 19, 12:06:25, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Saturday 28 December 2019 11:08:20 ghe wrote: > > > > > On 12/27/19 5:02 PM, Nektarios Katakis wrote: > > > > Have you tried removing openssh-server package and reinstalling it? > > > > > > Anothe

Re: systemdq

2019-12-29 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 28 dec 19, 12:06:25, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Saturday 28 December 2019 11:08:20 ghe wrote: > > > On 12/27/19 5:02 PM, Nektarios Katakis wrote: > > > Have you tried removing openssh-server package and reinstalling it? > > > > Another hopefully good suggestion. Thanks, and I'll try it. > > >

Re: systemdq [Solved]

2019-12-29 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 28 dec 19, 15:07:27, ghe wrote: > Trivial in retrospect. > > There were several ssh* files in /lib/systemd/service. None named sshd*. > I copied the one named ssh.service to sshd.service, enabled it, > rebooted, and there is was. > > An interesting question is why things are different in R

Windows install on 4 partitions? (was: Re: INQUIRY)

2019-12-29 Thread rhkramer
On Saturday, December 28, 2019 03:46:53 PM Doug McGarrett wrote: > I bought a new computer last summer, and it came with Windows 10 on FOUR > partitions! I shrank the Windows partition 4 to 100 GiB to allow a > minimum Windows system for anything that won't run on OpenSUSE TW, and > made a new part

Re: considering a new system and a sshd hybrid drive

2019-12-29 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 29 December 2019 04:42:20 Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: > On 29.12.2019 12:37, shirish शिरीष wrote: > > Dear all, > > > > Last year I had read some articles when I was looking to build a > > system there seemed to problems with hybrid drives. Does anybody > > know how things stand/look t

Re: considering a new system and a sshd hybrid drive

2019-12-29 Thread shirish शिरीष
at bottom :- On 29/12/2019, shirish शिरीष wrote: > Hi all, > > I read Alexander's reply with interest at [1] . > > @Alexander, thank you for taking time to answer my question/s . Maybe > you can CC me the next time :) > > What was also interesting in your answer was the use of dark marketing > pr

Re: considering a new system and a sshd hybrid drive

2019-12-29 Thread shirish शिरीष
Hi all, I read Alexander's reply with interest at [1] . @Alexander, thank you for taking time to answer my question/s . Maybe you can CC me the next time :) What was also interesting in your answer was the use of dark marketing practises used by some manufacturers to disguise TLC (3-bit NAND) me

Re: considering a new system and a sshd hybrid drive

2019-12-29 Thread Alexander V. Makartsev
On 29.12.2019 12:37, shirish शिरीष wrote: > Dear all, > > Last year I had read some articles when I was looking to build a > system there seemed to problems with hybrid drives. Does anybody know > how things stand/look today and if anybody had any good/bad experience > with them ? IIRC, the issues

Re: INQUIRY

2019-12-29 Thread Curt
On 2019-12-28, wrote: > > Hello Debian , I'm getting error while installing grub in Debian. > The error is "unable install grub in dummy" > My intention is to dual boot debian and windows. No, I believe the error is actually "unable to install grub in dummy." Quotation marks denote a verbatim t

Re: systemdq

2019-12-29 Thread tomas
On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 08:38:25PM -0500, chris wrote: > dont worry the resistance to systemd is still strong not everyone drinks > the kool aid What I don't understand is why you have to put this under such antagonistic terms. Cheers -- tomás signature.asc Description: Digital signature