Re: Backup Times on a Linux desktop

2019-11-02 Thread ghe
> On Nov 2, 2019, at 05:42 PM, Linux-Fan wrote: > > Konstantin Nebel writes: > >> this is basically a question, what you guys prefer and do. I have a Linux >> destkop and recently I decided to buy a raspberry pi 4 (great device) and > > [...] > >> Now i attached a 4 tb drive to my pi and I

Re: Backup Times on a Linux desktop

2019-11-02 Thread elvis
On 3/11/19 5:24 am, Konstantin Nebel wrote: Hi, this is basically a question, what you guys prefer and do. I have a Linux destkop and recently I decided to buy a raspberry pi 4 (great device) and already after a couple days I do not know how I lived without it. So why Raspberrypi. In the past

Re: Easiest Way to forward an email Message from Linux to a Mac

2019-11-02 Thread elvis
On 3/11/19 1:50 pm, Rick Thomas wrote: See reply bottom posted... On Sat, Nov 2, 2019, at 10:17 AM, Bob Weber wrote: On 11/2/19 8:10 AM, Martin McCormick wrote: Here is the setup. We are on a private vlan as in 192.168.x.x. All local host names are resolved via hosts files. Messages to go t

Re: KDE desktop not accessible after installation

2019-11-02 Thread Kenward Vaughan
On 11/2/19 9:06 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote: I don't know the full details on how kde starts, but have been researching jovie to my limited capacity. If spdconf has been run and had a voice configured it may be possible to hit alt+f2 then type jovie or kmouth and maybe have speech come up and talk

Re: KDE desktop not accessible after installation

2019-11-02 Thread Kenward Vaughan
On 11/2/19 8:42 PM, Keith Bainbridge wrote: On 3/11/19 5:42 am, Kenward Vaughan wrote: Hello, I have been using XFCE for quit some time, but wanted to play with several other desktop environments, so I installed Cinnamon, Mate, and KDE.?? The KDE choice does not show up in sddm's or lightdm

Re: Easiest Way to forward an email Message from Linux to a Mac

2019-11-02 Thread elvis
On 2/11/19 10:10 pm, Martin McCormick wrote: Here is the setup. We are on a private vlan as in 192.168.x.x. All local host names are resolved via hosts files. Messages to go to the big wide world must go through Suddenlink's SMTP smarthost and I definitely don't want to break that. O

Re: KDE desktop not accessible after installation

2019-11-02 Thread Felix Miata
Kenward Vaughan composed on 2019-11-02 11:42 (UTC-0700): > I have been using XFCE for quit some time, but wanted to play with > several other desktop environments, so I installed Cinnamon, Mate, and KDE. > The KDE choice does not show up in sddm's or lightdm's menu.?? I see no > startkde (has t

Re: Backup Times on a Linux desktop

2019-11-02 Thread Rick Thomas
On Sat, Nov 2, 2019, at 1:30 PM, Konstantin Nebel wrote: > Hi, > > > Anyway from my experience borg is the best and I can recommend it wormly. > > I appreciate you answering in the fullest how you do backups and I used borg > in the past which I can recommend as well. But I really want to focu

Re: Easiest Way to forward an email Message from Linux to a Mac

2019-11-02 Thread Rick Thomas
See reply bottom posted... On Sat, Nov 2, 2019, at 10:17 AM, Bob Weber wrote: > On 11/2/19 8:10 AM, Martin McCormick wrote: >> Here is the setup. We are on a private vlan as in 192.168.x.x. All local host names are resolved via hosts files. Messages to go to the big wide world must go through Su

Re: KDE desktop not accessible after installation

2019-11-02 Thread Jude DaShiell
I don't know the full details on how kde starts, but have been researching jovie to my limited capacity. If spdconf has been run and had a voice configured it may be possible to hit alt+f2 then type jovie or kmouth and maybe have speech come up and talk. Me with no kde experienced sighted assis

Re: KDE desktop not accessible after installation

2019-11-02 Thread Keith Bainbridge
On 3/11/19 5:42 am, Kenward Vaughan wrote: Hello, I have been using XFCE for quit some time, but wanted to play with several other desktop environments, so I installed Cinnamon, Mate, and KDE.?? The KDE choice does not show up in sddm's or lightdm's menu.?? I see no startkde (has that disap

Re: Easiest Way to forward an email Message from Linux to a Mac

2019-11-02 Thread Martin McCormick
Bob Weber writes: > > > Why not create a user on the Linux box to receive such emails and have the > MAC client connect to that user on the Linux box. You might have to > install a pop server (popa3d ... easiest to install and configure) or imac > server (dovecot-imapd ... harder to configure a

KDE desktop not accessible after installation

2019-11-02 Thread Kenward Vaughan
Hello, I have been using XFCE for quit some time, but wanted to play with several other desktop environments, so I installed Cinnamon, Mate, and KDE. The KDE choice does not show up in sddm's or lightdm's menu.?? I see no startkde (has that disappeared?), and I have no .xsession* file. Anyo

Re: Backup Times on a Linux desktop

2019-11-02 Thread Linux-Fan
Konstantin Nebel writes: this is basically a question, what you guys prefer and do. I have a Linux destkop and recently I decided to buy a raspberry pi 4 (great device) and [...] Now i attached a 4 tb drive to my pi and I decided what the heck, why not doing backups now. So now I am thinkin

Re: Backup Times on a Linux desktop

2019-11-02 Thread Charles Curley
On Sat, 02 Nov 2019 21:30:32 +0100 Konstantin Nebel wrote: > But I really want to focus on how > to trigger the backup in an automated way and not in which tool is > recommended to use. cron, unless the program you select has a built-in equivalent. But it's hard to get good backups while the ma

Re: Backup Times on a Linux desktop

2019-11-02 Thread deloptes
Konstantin Nebel wrote: >> Anyway from my experience borg is the best and I can recommend it wormly. > > I appreciate you answering in the fullest how you do backups and I used > borg in the past which I can recommend as well. But I really want to focus > on how to trigger the backup in an automa

Re: Backup Times on a Linux desktop

2019-11-02 Thread Dominic Knight
On Sat, 2019-11-02 at 20:24 +0100, Konstantin Nebel wrote: > Hi, > > > dual boot and Windows on default (for games, shame on me) and I might > switch > cause first Gaming on Linux is really becoming rly good and second I > could buy Missing out answers to your question :) Yes Gaming on Linux is b

Re: Backup Times on a Linux desktop

2019-11-02 Thread Christopher David Howie
On 11/2/2019 3:24 PM, Konstantin Nebel wrote: Whoever read till the end Im thankful and ready to hear your opinion. I use restic (the static binaries from the Github release page, not the Debian package which falls out of date too quickly) and invoke it from crontab. On my LAN server, the sc

Re: Backup Times on a Linux desktop

2019-11-02 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 02 November 2019 16:30:32 Konstantin Nebel wrote: > Hi, > > > Anyway from my experience borg is the best and I can recommend it > > wormly. > > I appreciate you answering in the fullest how you do backups and I > used borg in the past which I can recommend as well. But I really want >

Re: Backup Times on a Linux desktop

2019-11-02 Thread Konstantin Nebel
Hi, > Anyway from my experience borg is the best and I can recommend it wormly. I appreciate you answering in the fullest how you do backups and I used borg in the past which I can recommend as well. But I really want to focus on how to trigger the backup in an automated way and not in which tool

Re: Backup Times on a Linux desktop

2019-11-02 Thread deloptes
Konstantin Nebel wrote: > Whoever read till the end Im thankful and ready to hear your opinion. There are many good solutions out there. I can not say anything about your specific use case. Usually you would do a snapshot of the partition and backup, but I am not so far here. I do classical file

Re: no ethernet drivers in testing/10 netinstall image?

2019-11-02 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 02/11/2019 à 20:07, Joe a écrit : Kent Dorfman wrote: I'd make a strong argument that removing the common drivers from whatever kernel is used in "testing" is more an "unstable" action. (...) But at no time should a mature and extremely important device driver get pulled from it. Somethin

Backup Times on a Linux desktop

2019-11-02 Thread Konstantin Nebel
Hi, this is basically a question, what you guys prefer and do. I have a Linux destkop and recently I decided to buy a raspberry pi 4 (great device) and already after a couple days I do not know how I lived without it. So why Raspberrypi. In the past I decided not to do backups on purpose. I decid

Re: geany cannot use printers shared by cups

2019-11-02 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 02 November 2019 13:33:39 deloptes wrote: > Gene Heskett wrote: > > A month ago printer sharing worked, now the only option showing in > > the print requester for geany is cups-file or cups-pdf. > > > > yet I can run firefox and send it to localhost:631/printers on any > > of the clien

Re: no ethernet drivers in testing/10 netinstall image?

2019-11-02 Thread Joe
On Sat, 2 Nov 2019 14:34:04 -0400 Kent Dorfman wrote: > I think we have slightly different perceptions of what the scope of > the "testing" release is. Per my understanding of the debian.org wiki > information, it should be a "stable" release, with more frequently > updated packages...thus testi

Re: no ethernet drivers in testing/10 netinstall image?

2019-11-02 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 02/11/2019 à 19:34, Kent Dorfman a écrit : I think we have slightly different perceptions of what the scope of the "testing" release is. I think you have a wrong perception of what Debian testing is. Testing is not stable. Besides, the testing installer images are not intended to install t

Re: geany cannot use printers shared by cups

2019-11-02 Thread mick crane
On 2019-11-02 17:33, deloptes wrote: Gene Heskett wrote: A month ago printer sharing worked, now the only option showing in the print requester for geany is cups-file or cups-pdf. yet I can run firefox and send it to localhost:631/printers on any of the client machines and see all 5 of the s

Re: what is the proper way to recover grub in an EFI environment ?

2019-11-02 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 02/11/2019 à 17:45, shirish शिरीष a écrit : Directory: P:\EFI ModeLastWriteTime Length Name - -- d- 15-02-2018 19:21Microsoft d- 15-02-2018 19:26Boot d---

Re: no ethernet drivers in testing/10 netinstall image?

2019-11-02 Thread Kent Dorfman
I think we have slightly different perceptions of what the scope of the "testing" release is. Per my understanding of the debian.org wiki information, it should be a "stable" release, with more frequently updated packages...thus testing the newer applicaiton packages. I'd make a strong argument t

neovim and less

2019-11-02 Thread R Ransbottom
Hi all, Neovim and/or less are not performing as I would like in one regard: when invoked from nvim ex prompt the pager goes directly to the end of input. Thanks for any help. Details: Issuing a ex command like :! perldoc -f close or :! cat some_file | less brings me directly to the

Re: geany cannot use printers shared by cups

2019-11-02 Thread deloptes
Gene Heskett wrote: > A month ago printer sharing worked, now the only option showing in the > print requester for geany is cups-file or cups-pdf. > > yet I can run firefox and send it to localhost:631/printers on any of the > client machines and see all 5 of the shared profiles I have setup. >

Re: no ethernet drivers in testing/10 netinstall image?

2019-11-02 Thread John Hasler
Kent Dorfman writes: > we are talking about 10 TESTING-edu, not stable nor unstable. TESTING is what its name says. Install Stable, upgrade to TESTING if you really need it, and use reportbug to report any bugs you find. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: no ethernet drivers in testing/10 netinstall image?

2019-11-02 Thread John Hasler
Kent Dorfman writes: > we are talking about 10 TESTING-edu, not stable nor unstable. TESTING is what its name says. Install Stable, upgrade to TESTING if you really need it, and use reportbug to report any bugs you find. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: no ethernet drivers in testing/10 netinstall image?

2019-11-02 Thread John Hasler
Kent Dorfman writes: > we are talking about 10 TESTING-edu, not stable nor unstable. TESTING is what its name says. Install Stable, upgrade to TESTING if you really need it, and use reportbug to report any bugs you find. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: Easiest Way to forward an email Message from Linux to a Mac

2019-11-02 Thread Bob Weber
On 11/2/19 8:10 AM, Martin McCormick wrote: Here is the setup. We are on a private vlan as in 192.168.x.x. All local host names are resolved via hosts files. Messages to go to the big wide world must go through Suddenlink's SMTP smarthost and I definitely don't want to break that. On r

geany cannot use printers shared by cups

2019-11-02 Thread Gene Heskett
A month ago printer sharing worked, now the only option showing in the print requester for geany is cups-file or cups-pdf. yet I can run firefox and send it to localhost:631/printers on any of the client machines and see all 5 of the shared profiles I have setup. Clues for the obviously clueles

Re: what is the proper way to recover grub in an EFI environment ?

2019-11-02 Thread shirish शिरीष
Reply in-line :- On 02/11/2019, Pascal Hambourg wrote: > Le 02/11/2019 à 13:30, shirish शिरीष a écrit : >> >> /boot/efi/ is empty > > As expected. /boot/efi is just a mount point for the EFI partition. > Check /EFI/debian in the EFI partition (FAT). > It took me sometime but ultimately was able

Re: no ethernet drivers in testing/10 netinstall image?

2019-11-02 Thread Kent Dorfman
On 11/1/19, Kent Dorfman wrote: > title says it all. > Would be nice if the netinstall actually worked so that I could better > evaluate whether to take debian seriously. > a couple of points going forward: 1) I do not sign up on every list where I need support. If I did, I'd be losing passwor

Re: no ethernet drivers in testing/10 netinstall image?

2019-11-02 Thread David Wright
On Sat 02 Nov 2019 at 15:12:10 (+0100), Pascal Hambourg wrote: > Le 02/11/2019 à 14:03, to...@tuxteam.de a écrit : > > > Kent Dorfman wrote: > > > > > > > > There are no ethernet drivers in the modules directory for the > > > > netinstall image, other than a single broadcomm file...and no, it's >

Re: no ethernet drivers in testing/10 netinstall image?

2019-11-02 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 02/11/2019 à 15:21, Reco a écrit : On Sat, Nov 02, 2019 at 03:12:10PM +0100, Pascal Hambourg wrote: IIUC the OP is talking about the netinst installer, not an installed system. Maybe he encountered a situation where the d-i package containing NIC modules was not installed yet, or the install

Re: Got a puzzle here

2019-11-02 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 02 November 2019 08:55:51 Dan Purgert wrote: > wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 01, 2019 at 06:46:25PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > >> [...] > >> Humm, further exercise with a digital potatoe fork discloses that > >> "tcpd" is the old tcpwappers, and its installed and running. > > > > Yikes. I

Re: what is the proper way to recover grub in an EFI environment ?

2019-11-02 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 02/11/2019 à 13:30, shirish शिरीष a écrit : /boot/efi/ is empty As expected. /boot/efi is just a mount point for the EFI partition. Check /EFI/debian in the EFI partition (FAT). How did you change Debian boot mode to EFI ? Can you see a "debian" entry in the UEFI boot menu or boot order ?

Re: no ethernet drivers in testing/10 netinstall image?

2019-11-02 Thread Reco
Hi. On Sat, Nov 02, 2019 at 03:12:10PM +0100, Pascal Hambourg wrote: > Le 02/11/2019 à 14:03, to...@tuxteam.de a écrit : > > > Kent Dorfman wrote: > > > > > > > > There are no ethernet drivers in the modules directory for the > > > > netinstall image, other than a single broadcomm file..

Re: no ethernet drivers in testing/10 netinstall image?

2019-11-02 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 02/11/2019 à 14:03, to...@tuxteam.de a écrit : Kent Dorfman wrote: There are no ethernet drivers in the modules directory for the netinstall image, other than a single broadcomm file...and no, it's not an obscure nic that requires custom firmware. It needs the humble e1000 driver. This i

Re: Got a puzzle here

2019-11-02 Thread Reco
Hi. On Sat, Nov 02, 2019 at 12:55:51PM -, Dan Purgert wrote: > wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 01, 2019 at 06:46:25PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > >> [...] > >> Humm, further exercise with a dital potatoe fork discloses that > >> "tcpd" is the old tcpwappers, and its installed and running.

Re: no ethernet drivers in testing/10 netinstall image?

2019-11-02 Thread tomas
On Sat, Nov 02, 2019 at 08:44:57AM +, Joe wrote: > On Fri, 1 Nov 2019 18:54:55 -0400 > Kent Dorfman wrote: > > > title says it all. > > > > There are no ethernet drivers in the modules directory for the > > netinstall image, other than a single broadcomm file...and no, it's > > not an obscur

Re: Got a puzzle here

2019-11-02 Thread Dan Purgert
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 wrote: > On Fri, Nov 01, 2019 at 06:46:25PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: >> [...] >> Humm, further exercise with a dital potatoe fork discloses that >> "tcpd" is the old tcpwappers, and its installed and running. > > Yikes. I didn't even know (or rem

Re: what is the proper way to recover grub in an EFI environment ?

2019-11-02 Thread shirish शिरीष
please CC me in case somebody finds any answers. On 02/11/2019, shirish शिरीष wrote: > Dear all, > > I am on a system which used to dual-boot between Debian GNU/Linux and > MS-Windows. I have shared couple of screenshots to show the structure > of how Debian/GNU linux looks within MS-Windows. Fo

what is the proper way to recover grub in an EFI environment ?

2019-11-02 Thread shirish शिरीष
Dear all, I am on a system which used to dual-boot between Debian GNU/Linux and MS-Windows. I have shared couple of screenshots to show the structure of how Debian/GNU linux looks within MS-Windows. For some reason, I'm unable to get grub screen and only get the MS-Windows bootloader. The instal

Easiest Way to forward an email Message from Linux to a Mac

2019-11-02 Thread Martin McCormick
Here is the setup. We are on a private vlan as in 192.168.x.x. All local host names are resolved via hosts files. Messages to go to the big wide world must go through Suddenlink's SMTP smarthost and I definitely don't want to break that. On rare occasions, I want to forward an email to t

Psensor Does Not Auto-range Temperature

2019-11-02 Thread Stephen P. Molnar
When I run Psensor to monitor the CPU temperature of my Buster platform, it fails to auto-range the temperature. I get the same error messages, regardless if I open Psensor as either a user or root. comp@AbNormal:~$ sudo -s psensor [sudo] password for comp: [2019-11-02T10:25:17] [ERR] nvctr

Re: no ethernet drivers in testing/10 netinstall image?

2019-11-02 Thread Joe
On Fri, 1 Nov 2019 18:54:55 -0400 Kent Dorfman wrote: > title says it all. > > There are no ethernet drivers in the modules directory for the > netinstall image, other than a single broadcomm file...and no, it's > not an obscure nic that requires custom firmware. It needs the humble > e1000 dri