Re: xorriso as a backup &/or archival tool

2019-08-28 Thread deloptes
Richard Owlett wrote: > I suggest reading > https://manpages.debian.org/buster/rsync/rsync.1.en.html > and > https://manpages.debian.org/buster/xorriso/xorriso.1.en.html > > Why is xorriso more appropriate for *MY* _stated_ immediate goal? > [Hint: What keyword appears 5 times as frequently in la

Re: udev being an ass, SOLVED

2019-08-28 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 28 August 2019 16:55:20 Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 04:04:48PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > He apparently wants to make his operating system refuse to register > > persistent interface names, on the grounds that he frequently moves > > a physical hard drive from

Re: udev being an ass

2019-08-28 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 28 August 2019 16:04:48 Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 08:42:56PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > On Wed 28 Aug 2019 at 15:05:18 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > I've resorted to the chattr on more than one occasion. Works well > > > if you can get it all done before before t

Re: udev being an ass

2019-08-28 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 28 August 2019 15:42:56 Brian wrote: > On Wed 28 Aug 2019 at 15:05:18 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > I've resorted to the chattr on more than one occasion. Works well > > if you can get it all done before before the timer runs the N-M > > script again. > > Users (particularly new use

Re: ttf-mscore fonts and contrib repos

2019-08-28 Thread Ólafur Jens Sigurðsson
On Sat, Aug 24, 2019 at 11:56:21AM -0500, Christopher Marlow wrote: > On 8/23/19 11:17 PM, Richard Hector wrote: > > From your other responses, I think you've got it. But please, make sure > > you understand what you're trying to achieve, and what the lines mean, > > rather than relying on others

Re: xorriso as a backup &/or archival tool

2019-08-28 Thread Richard Owlett
On 08/28/2019 11:30 AM, Bob Weber wrote: Recently I was suggested I read https://www.gnu.org/software/xorriso/ and http://scdbackup.sourceforge.net/main_eng.html which led to exploring "afio archives" and "zisofs compression". Have you considered rsync. I suggest reading https://manpag

Re: udev being an ass

2019-08-28 Thread Brian
On Wed 28 Aug 2019 at 03:18:59 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Wednesday 28 August 2019 02:10:02 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > On Ma, 27 aug 19, 14:27:02, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > What, in wheezy > > > > Do you mean Debian 7? > > > > > /lib/udev/rules.d rule do I nuke so eth0 remains eth0 regardle

Re: xorriso as a backup &/or archival tool

2019-08-28 Thread Richard Owlett
On 08/28/2019 04:22 PM, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: On Wednesday, August 28, 2019 07:50:27 AM Richard Owlett wrote: Recently I was suggested I read https://www.gnu.org/software/xorriso/ and http://scdbackup.sourceforge.net/main_eng.html which led to exploring "afio archives" and "zisofs co

Re: udev being an ass

2019-08-28 Thread Brian
On Wed 28 Aug 2019 at 16:04:48 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 08:42:56PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > On Wed 28 Aug 2019 at 15:05:18 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > > I've resorted to the chattr on more than one occasion. Works well if you > > > can get it all done before b

Re: xorriso as a backup &/or archival tool

2019-08-28 Thread rhkramer
On Wednesday, August 28, 2019 07:50:27 AM Richard Owlett wrote: > Recently I was suggested I read >https://www.gnu.org/software/xorriso/ > and >http://scdbackup.sourceforge.net/main_eng.html > which led to exploring "afio archives" and "zisofs compression". > > I have a half dozen machines

Re: udev being an ass

2019-08-28 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 04:04:48PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > He apparently wants to make his operating system refuse to register > persistent interface names, on the grounds that he frequently moves > a physical hard drive from one system to another, and doesn't want to > go through the hassle

Re: udev being an ass

2019-08-28 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 08:42:56PM +0100, Brian wrote: > On Wed 28 Aug 2019 at 15:05:18 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > I've resorted to the chattr on more than one occasion. Works well if you > > can get it all done before before the timer runs the N-M script again. > > Users (particularly ne

Re: udev being an ass

2019-08-28 Thread Brian
On Wed 28 Aug 2019 at 15:05:18 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > I've resorted to the chattr on more than one occasion. Works well if you > can get it all done before before the timer runs the N-M script again. Users (particularly new users) who read chattr(1), and who think getting their own way wi

Re: udev being an ass

2019-08-28 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 28 August 2019 12:53:15 Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 12:26:05PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > So: delete /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules AND edit /e/n/i > > to put it back on eth0 where it belongs and it should work. > > Only on machines that have precisel

Re: udev being an ass

2019-08-28 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 28 August 2019 11:38:14 David Wright wrote: > On Wed 28 Aug 2019 at 03:07:24 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Tuesday 27 August 2019 23:54:02 David Wright wrote: > > > On Tue 27 Aug 2019 at 19:51:21 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > On Tuesday 27 August 2019 17:44:18 David Wrigh

Re: buster netinst timezone

2019-08-28 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 12:25:32PM -0500, David Wright wrote: On Mon 12 Aug 2019 at 08:38:47 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: The first one is the /etc/timezone file, which as you say, is a simple text file that a (root) user can edit. I believe this is the backward-compatibility one. And that's

Re: buster netinst timezone

2019-08-28 Thread David Wright
On Mon 12 Aug 2019 at 08:38:47 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Sat, Aug 10, 2019 at 12:16:04PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > > If you're desparate to get the timezone altered earlier in your > > installation process, you could always do it manually: try switching > > to VC2 and editing the file /

Re: udev being an ass

2019-08-28 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 12:26:05PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > So: delete /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules AND edit /e/n/i to > put it back on eth0 where it belongs and it should work. Only on machines that have precisely ONE (1) network interface. On any machine with more than one, yo

Re: OT: NFS resource(s)

2019-08-28 Thread Judah Richardson
Try r/linuxquestions on Reddit. On Wed, Aug 28, 2019, 11:49 Matt Zagrabelny wrote: > Greetings, > > I am hitting a strange NFS issue and I'm trying to find some sort of > interactive resource (user mailing list, or IRC, or etc.) to ask some > questions on. > > I see there is an NFS kernel mailin

OT: NFS resource(s)

2019-08-28 Thread Matt Zagrabelny
Greetings, I am hitting a strange NFS issue and I'm trying to find some sort of interactive resource (user mailing list, or IRC, or etc.) to ask some questions on. I see there is an NFS kernel mailing list, but I doubt they want to help me debug my problem. Is anyone aware of good NFS (v4) resou

Re: udev being an ass

2019-08-28 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 28 August 2019 10:54:56 Curt wrote: > On 2019-08-28, Gene Heskett wrote: > > It may, looks as if it could, but by itself lacks sufficient > > context to ring any bells. > > https://www.mail-archive.com/debian-user@lists.debian.org/msg747147.ht >ml > > Drop Revert-udev-network-devic

Re: xorriso as a backup &/or archival tool

2019-08-28 Thread Bob Weber
Recently I was suggested I read    https://www.gnu.org/software/xorriso/ and    http://scdbackup.sourceforge.net/main_eng.html which led to exploring "afio archives" and "zisofs compression". Have you considered rsync.  I wound make sure that a backup system would handle all the file attrib

Re: udev being an ass

2019-08-28 Thread David Wright
On Wed 28 Aug 2019 at 03:07:24 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > On Tuesday 27 August 2019 23:54:02 David Wright wrote: > > On Tue 27 Aug 2019 at 19:51:21 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > > > On Tuesday 27 August 2019 17:44:18 David Wright wrote: > > > > On Tue 27 Aug 2019 at 21:39:52 (+0100), Brian wro

Re: udev being an ass

2019-08-28 Thread Curt
On 2019-08-28, Gene Heskett wrote: > > It may, looks as if it could, but by itself lacks sufficient context to > ring any bells. https://www.mail-archive.com/debian-user@lists.debian.org/msg747147.html Drop Revert-udev-network-device-renaming-immediately-give.patch. ... In case you rely on t

Re: udev being an ass

2019-08-28 Thread David Wright
On Wed 28 Aug 2019 at 03:00:01 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > On Tuesday 27 August 2019 23:42:25 David Wright wrote: > > On Tue 27 Aug 2019 at 19:41:41 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > > > On Tuesday 27 August 2019 17:38:34 David Wright wrote: > > > > On Tue 27 Aug 2019 at 16:13:25 (-0400), Greg Wool

Re: xorriso as a backup &/or archival tool

2019-08-28 Thread Richard Owlett
On 08/28/2019 08:48 AM, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Hi, Richard Owlett wrote: Recently I was suggested I read https://www.gnu.org/software/xorriso/ and http://scdbackup.sourceforge.net/main_eng.html which led to exploring "afio archives" and "zisofs compression". afio is a sequential archiver

Re: xorriso as a backup &/or archival tool

2019-08-28 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Richard Owlett wrote: > Recently I was suggested I read > https://www.gnu.org/software/xorriso/ > and > http://scdbackup.sourceforge.net/main_eng.html > which led to exploring "afio archives" and "zisofs compression". afio is a sequential archiver. I used it in scdbackup mainly because of

Re: udev being an ass

2019-08-28 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 28 August 2019 08:34:17 Curt wrote: > On 2019-08-28, Gene Heskett wrote: > >> in Bullseye it appears that > >> '/etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules' won't even kind of sort > >> of maybe work in specifically unspecified cases (if I understood a > >> recent announcement here cor

Re: udev being an ass

2019-08-28 Thread Curt
On 2019-08-28, Gene Heskett wrote: > >> in Bullseye it appears that >> '/etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules' won't even kind of sort of >> maybe work in specifically unspecified cases (if I understood a recent >> announcement here correctly). > > A link? > https://www.mail-archive.com/debi

Adding buster endpoint to stretch icinga2 server

2019-08-28 Thread Dave Sherohman
I've been using icinga2 for monitoring several stretch systems for quite a while, and now I'm starting to add buster machines to my herd, but haven't been able to work out how to (easily) get the old server to recognize the existence of new clients. Going through the process of running the wizard

xorriso as a backup &/or archival tool

2019-08-28 Thread Richard Owlett
Recently I was suggested I read https://www.gnu.org/software/xorriso/ and http://scdbackup.sourceforge.net/main_eng.html which led to exploring "afio archives" and "zisofs compression". I have a half dozen machines with primary drives up to ~700GB. They have up to 20 labeled partitions (I AVO

Re: udev being an ass

2019-08-28 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 28 August 2019 05:58:09 Curt wrote: > On 2019-08-27, Gene Heskett wrote: > >> In spite of posts about it in -user, you are just about clueless > >> about status of /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules, aren't > >> you? > > > > I can read them just fine. But when written in swahi

Re: udev being an ass

2019-08-28 Thread Curt
On 2019-08-27, Gene Heskett wrote: >> >> In spite of posts about it in -user, you are just about clueless about >> status of /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules, aren't you? >> > I can read them just fine. But when written in swahili, they aren't that > easy to understand. But first, make t

Re: udev being an ass

2019-08-28 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 28 August 2019 02:35:51 Felix Miata wrote: > Andrei POPESCU composed on 2019-08-28 09:10 (UTC+0300): > > Gene Heskett wrote: > >> What, in wheezy > > > > Do you mean Debian 7? > > > >> /lib/udev/rules.d rule do I nuke so eth0 remains eth0 regardless of > >> which box I put that drive

Re: udev being an ass

2019-08-28 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 28 August 2019 02:10:02 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Ma, 27 aug 19, 14:27:02, Gene Heskett wrote: > > What, in wheezy > > Do you mean Debian 7? > > > /lib/udev/rules.d rule do I nuke so eth0 remains eth0 regardless of > >which box I put that drive in? > > Try booting with 'net.ifnames=0

Re: udev being an ass

2019-08-28 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 28 August 2019 01:45:04 Felmon Davis wrote: > On Tue, 27 Aug 2019, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Tuesday 27 August 2019 16:01:30 Brian wrote: > >> (P.S. > >> Could we have posts without medical details. They make me feel > >> quesy). > > > > Life, fully lived, can and will have its queas

Re: udev being an ass

2019-08-28 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 27 August 2019 23:54:02 David Wright wrote: > On Tue 27 Aug 2019 at 19:51:21 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Tuesday 27 August 2019 17:44:18 David Wright wrote: > > > On Tue 27 Aug 2019 at 21:39:52 (+0100), Brian wrote: > > > > On Tue 27 Aug 2019 at 15:50:31 -0400, Gene Heskett wrot

Re: udev being an ass

2019-08-28 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 27 August 2019 23:42:25 David Wright wrote: > On Tue 27 Aug 2019 at 19:41:41 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Tuesday 27 August 2019 17:38:34 David Wright wrote: > > > On Tue 27 Aug 2019 at 16:13:25 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 03:50:31PM -0400, Gene

who is verifying proposed-updates ?

2019-08-28 Thread Harald Dunkel
Hi folks, how good is test coverage of proposed-updates? This repository is pretty much unknown (IMHO), so I wonder if there are numbers from the popularity contest? Regards Harri