On 8/10/2019 7:42 AM, Russell L. Harris wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 09, 2019 at 10:39:23PM -0500, David Wright wrote:
>> It's not clear to me why you couldn't select this, nor why your files
>> would have the wrong timestamp. Here's some output from a buster
>> installation on acer. As it was my first, I
On Fri, Aug 09, 2019 at 10:39:23PM -0500, David Wright wrote:
It's not clear to me why you couldn't select this, nor why your files
would have the wrong timestamp. Here's some output from a buster
installation on acer. As it was my first, I kept the typescript.
...
Thanks, David. For some reas
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Hi,
On 10/8/19 1:32 pm, David wrote:
> I don't know the answer, but you might find some clues here:
> https://codesearch.debian.net/search?q=history.db&literal=1 Note
> the list of package names at the top of the page.
Why is it not accessible vi
Do you have some kind of backup, sync, or versioning application running?
On Fri, Aug 9, 2019, 22:01 Greg Marks wrote:
> On a computer running Debian 10, in a number of directories a
> subdirectory "history" has mysteriously appeared containing a
> file history.db. There are 11 of these history
On Fri 09 Aug 2019 at 21:38:23 (+), Russell L. Harris wrote:
> The netinst cd image for Buster 10.0.0 does not offer a UTC option for
> English -> United States.
>
> This is a critical bug; every installer without exception should offer UTC.
>
> Is there a work-around, so that files written d
On Sat, 10 Aug 2019 at 13:01, Greg Marks wrote:
>
> On a computer running Debian 10, in a number of directories a
> subdirectory "history" has mysteriously appeared containing a
> file history.db.
[...]
> Does anyone know what might be causing this?
I don't know the answer, but you might find som
On a computer running Debian 10, in a number of directories a
subdirectory "history" has mysteriously appeared containing a
file history.db. There are 11 of these history.db files in various
places in my home directory; cmp reveals that they are all identical.
Each is an "SQLite 3.x database, last
On Fri, 9 Aug 2019 21:38:23 +
"Russell L. Harris" wrote:
> The netinst cd image for Buster 10.0.0 does not offer a UTC option for
> English -> United States.
Mine did. IIRC it was part of the timezone choice at install. Last in
the list. Stock Buster Netinstall CD. I don't use UTC, but loca
Charlie Kravetz writes:
> The installer attempts to allow all actual timezones for a
> country. The United States does not actually have a timezone called
> UTC.
UTC isn't a timezone. It should be offered, though.
--
John Hasler
jhas...@newsguy.com
Elmwood, WI USA
On Fri, 9 Aug 2019 21:38:23 +
"Russell L. Harris" wrote:
>The netinst cd image for Buster 10.0.0 does not offer a UTC option for
>English -> United States.
>
>This is a critical bug; every installer without exception should offer UTC.
>
>Is there a work-around, so that files written during th
I bought a turris omnia router recently and so far it has worked out pretty
well.
--
Steven Mainor
On August 9, 2019 12:59:34 PM EDT, Reco wrote:
>On Fri, Aug 09, 2019 at 06:16:21PM +0200, deloptes wrote:
>> John Hasler wrote:
>>
>> > Steven Mainor writes:
>> > > It looks like there are some
Greetings once again;
Tomorrow morning I am going to reboot and see if my problem
happens again.
If you have some suggestions on what info to gather then let
me know. Bear in mind that during the boot process my system
is pretty much unresponsive for the hour or so until the
window manager
The netinst cd image for Buster 10.0.0 does not offer a UTC option for
English -> United States.
This is a critical bug; every installer without exception should offer UTC.
Is there a work-around, so that files written during the
installation process have the correct datestamp?
One suggestion w
I use Firefox 60.8.0esr-1~deb10 which is a package in Debian 10.0 (stable).
I have had the following problems with Firefox for several days.
The following problem suddenly went away today. I did not do anything. But
History Cleaner was last updated on August 9, 2019. Today!
I go to the
On Fri, Aug 9, 2019, at 10:14, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Friday 09 August 2019 07:59:07 Bob Crochelt wrote:
>
> > Gene,
> > I’m scheduled for some heart rewiring myself. Good luck to the both of
> > us! Bob Crochelt
>
> My heart guy is out of the country till around Sept 1. So I'm takeing an
>
Curt Howland composed on 2019-08-09 13:53 (UTC-0400):
> plymouth-quit-wait.service
...
> I have no idea what a "plymouth" is.
Several things it brings to the table:
1-avoids /dastardly/ "flicker" on mode switching during startup
2-bling/eye candy during startup
3-bloats initrd
4-encryption handl
Greg Wooledge, on 2019-08-09:
> On Fri, Aug 09, 2019 at 09:48:41PM +0200, Étienne Mollier wrote:
> > It [plymouth] seems to be pulled by "task-gnome-desktop", either by
> > dependency, or mere recommendation, I don't know. From the
> > quick test I did, it appeared in the list of packages to be
>
On 2019-08-09 21:48 +0200, Étienne Mollier wrote:
> It seems to be pulled by "task-gnome-desktop", either by
> dependency, or mere recommendation, I don't know. From the
> quick test I did, it appeared in the list of packages to be
> installed:
>
> $ sudo apt install task-gnome-desktop
>
>
On Fri, Aug 09, 2019 at 09:48:41PM +0200, Étienne Mollier wrote:
> It [plymouth] seems to be pulled by "task-gnome-desktop", either by
> dependency, or mere recommendation, I don't know. From the
> quick test I did, it appeared in the list of packages to be
> installed:
>
> $ sudo apt insta
On 09/08/2019 21.15, Sven Joachim wrote:
> On 2019-08-09 13:53 -0400, Curt Howland wrote:
>
>> On 8/9/19, Curt Howland wrote:
>>> Hi. New Buster install.
>>> [ ***] A start job is running for Hold until boot process finishes (2h
>>> 54m 38s / no limit)
>> Those asterisks are also red, and moving
David Wright wrote on 8/8/19 9:04 AM:
On Thu 08 Aug 2019 at 08:19:22 (-), Curt wrote:
On 2019-08-05, Dennis Wicks wrote:
So anyway, I typed in "sudo mount /dev/sdb2 /wa1" and it
seemed to finish successfully, but "ls /wa1" indicated that
in fact it had not. Nothing mounted on wa1! Many oth
On 2019-08-09 13:53 -0400, Curt Howland wrote:
> On 8/9/19, Curt Howland wrote:
>> Hi. New Buster install.
>> [ ***] A start job is running for Hold until boot process finishes (2h
>> 54m 38s / no limit)
>
> Those asterisks are also red, and moving left to right, the same as
> seen during shutdow
Curt wrote on 8/8/19 3:41 AM:
On 2019-08-08, Curt wrote:
On 2019-08-05, Dennis Wicks wrote:
So anyway, I typed in "sudo mount /dev/sdb2 /wa1" and it
seemed to finish successfully, but "ls /wa1" indicated that
in fact it had not. Nothing mounted on wa1! Many other tests
told me the same thin
Curt wrote on 8/8/19 3:19 AM:
On 2019-08-05, Dennis Wicks wrote:
So anyway, I typed in "sudo mount /dev/sdb2 /wa1" and it
seemed to finish successfully, but "ls /wa1" indicated that
in fact it had not. Nothing mounted on wa1! Many other tests
told me the same thing. "umount /wa1" said "not mo
Curt Howland, on 2019-08-09:
> On 8/9/19, Curt Howland wrote:
> > Hi. New Buster install.
> > [ ***] A start job is running for Hold until boot process finishes (2h
> > 54m 38s / no limit)
>
> Those asterisks are also red, and moving left to right, the same as
> seen during shutdown when something
On Fri 09 Aug 2019 at 09:57:00 -0400, The Wanderer wrote:
> On 2019-08-09 at 09:46, John Hasler wrote:
>
> > Étienne writes:
> >
> >> ...profanity...
> >
> > Profanity is a matter of context. As used in this discussion "shit"
> > is just a synonym for "manure".
>
> To be pedantic, "shit" isn'
On Fri, Aug 09, 2019 at 01:16:49PM -0400, Celejar wrote:
> On Fri, 9 Aug 2019 19:59:34 +0300
> Reco wrote:
>
> > On Fri, Aug 09, 2019 at 06:16:21PM +0200, deloptes wrote:
>
> ...
>
> > > This one was very appealing
> > > https://www.amazon.de/DMC-Taiwan-Industrial-Networking-Processor/dp/B07T3
On 8/9/19, Curt Howland wrote:
> Hi. New Buster install.
> [ ***] A start job is running for Hold until boot process finishes (2h
> 54m 38s / no limit)
Those asterisks are also red, and moving left to right, the same as
seen during shutdown when something won't politely die.
Only two things look
Hi,
David Wright wrote:
> it appears that any subsequent mount commands have to
> agree explicitly with the earlier choice. Are there other, similar
> factors involved in the OP's case…
Ah yes.
I was similarly confused by my system's behavior on double mount
and the fact that i remember to have
$430 is way above my budget. "Linksys" and "Wireless" are both
negatives. Maybe, if I could get it for $10 at a yard sale...
--
John Hasler
jhas...@newsguy.com
Elmwood, WI USA
t writes:
> There are many countries where such (so-called "shrink-wrap licenses",
> because you have to tear the package open to discover it) aren't
> legally binding.
A true shrink-wrap "license" is one that is visible and readable through
the transparent shrink-wrap package.
--
John Hasler
jh
On Fri, 9 Aug 2019 19:59:34 +0300
Reco wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 09, 2019 at 06:16:21PM +0200, deloptes wrote:
...
> > This one was very appealing
> > https://www.amazon.de/DMC-Taiwan-Industrial-Networking-Processor/dp/B07T3TWYLJ/ref=sr_1_11?__mk_de_DE=%C3%85M%C3%85%C5%BD%C3%95%C3%91&keywords=acros
On Thu 08/Aug/2019 13:50:40 +0200 John Hasler wrote:
> tomas writes:
>> This is one of those cases: if you're using a piece of non-free
>> software, you should know about it, and you should know which buy
>> decision led to it (so you can take that into account at your next buy
>> decision).
>
>
On Fri, Aug 09, 2019 at 06:16:21PM +0200, deloptes wrote:
> John Hasler wrote:
>
> > Steven Mainor writes:
> > > It looks like there are some ESPRESSOBIN v7s on Amazon right now.
> >
> > Excellent. When I looked yesterday Amazon said "None available". I
> > think I'll order one today. The an
John Hasler, on 2019-08-09:
> The Wanderer writes:
> > Profanity deals with matters religious.
>
> Originally, yes. The definitions of all three words have been broadened
> in common use so as to make them synonyms to most people.
That is without mentioning translations. The idea carried by
the
On Fri, Aug 09, 2019 at 11:29:17AM -0500, David Wright wrote:
> Whether I like the ability to mount in this manner, I'm with Greg at the
> moment. Obviously I missed any discussion on the topic ~15 years ago,
> so I haven't seen any benefits spelled out. In any case, perhaps a
> warning in kern.log
Kenneth Parker, on 2019-08-09:
> On Fri, Aug 9, 2019, 11:30 AM Curt Howland wrote:
> > Hi. New Buster install.
> >
> > While X11 is working just fine, the console is unusable, due to a
> > startup message that never stops:
> >
> > [ ***] A start job is running for Hold until boot process finishes
Sorry to cause the thread to "wander", but some of us are trying to
replicate aspects of the OP's problem, which necessitates explaining
any differences in the results being obtained.
On Thu 08 Aug 2019 at 14:14:25 (-0400), Michael Stone wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 08, 2019 at 12:09:11PM -0500, David Wri
The Wanderer wrote:
> To be pedantic, "shit" isn't profanity in the first place; it's
> vulgarity.
>
> Profanity deals with matters religious.
>
> Obscenity deals with matters sexual.
>
> Vulgarity deals with matters involving other bodily functions, i.e.,
> primarily matters scatological.
>
>
John Hasler wrote:
> Steven Mainor writes:
> > It looks like there are some ESPRESSOBIN v7s on Amazon right now.
>
> Excellent. When I looked yesterday Amazon said "None available". I
> think I'll order one today. The ancient Dell I'm now using as a
> router/firewall is getting flaky. I've
Alessandro Vesely writes:
> I had always considered those must-reply-yes questions akin to
> extortion. My answer reflects the only possibility to use something I
> bought, not my free thought.
If the contract is presented before the sale is completed they are not
different from "You must agree t
On Fri, Aug 09, 2019 at 05:59:26PM +0200, Alessandro Vesely wrote:
> On Thu 08/Aug/2019 15:02:38 +0200 John Hasler wrote:
>
> > These sorts of "licenses" are actually attempts at a civil contract.
> > They really have nothing to do with patent or copyright law. A civil
> > contract requires agree
On Fri, Aug 9, 2019, 11:30 AM Curt Howland wrote:
> Hi. New Buster install.
>
> While X11 is working just fine, the console is unusable, due to a
> startup message that never stops:
>
> [ ***] A start job is running for Hold until boot process finishes (2h
> 54m 38s / no limit)
>
> This goes on u
On Thu 08/Aug/2019 15:02:38 +0200 John Hasler wrote:
> These sorts of "licenses" are actually attempts at a civil contract.
> They really have nothing to do with patent or copyright law. A civil
> contract requires agreement in advance, though.
I had always considered those must-reply-yes que
Hi. New Buster install.
While X11 is working just fine, the console is unusable, due to a
startup message that never stops:
[ ***] A start job is running for Hold until boot process finishes (2h
54m 38s / no limit)
This goes on until the laptop is shut down.
How do I find the errant process? Th
On 2019-08-08 18:06 -0400, hobie of RMN wrote:
> How about GeForce 210...? Will the nouveau kernel module work for that or
> are non-free drivers needed, on Debian 10?
The GeForce 210 has been around for many years, and nouveau should work fine
with it, modulo bugs.
Cheers,
Sven
The Wanderer writes:
> Profanity deals with matters religious.
Originally, yes. The definitions of all three words have been broadened
in common use so as to make them synonyms to most people.
Étienne writes:
> Interesting! If agreement there is on this definition, then this
> would explain the
On Fri, 09 Aug 2019 08:51:15 -0500
John Hasler wrote:
> Celejar writes:
> > It does? Here's what the "Debian Position on Software Patents" says:
>
> > Debian will not knowingly distribute software encumbered by patents;
> > Debian contributors should not package or distribute software they know
On Friday 09 August 2019 07:59:07 Bob Crochelt wrote:
> Gene,
> I’m scheduled for some heart rewiring myself. Good luck to the both of
> us! Bob Crochelt
My heart guy is out of the country till around Sept 1. So I'm takeing an
extra half a 7.5gr warfarin pill a day to ward off another
clot/bloc
On 08/08/2019 03:12 PM, Curt wrote:
On 2019-08-08, Dan Ritter wrote:
I think you are missing the point: When someone asks a question on this
list, then that someone gets to decide what the question is.
To which Curt replied:
The questioner gets to decide what the question is, and the
answe
The Wanderer, on 2019-08-09:
> On 2019-08-09 at 09:46, John Hasler wrote:
>
> > Étienne writes:
> >
> >> ...profanity...
> >
> > Profanity is a matter of context. As used in this discussion "shit"
> > is just a synonym for "manure".
>
> To be pedantic, "shit" isn't profanity in the first place; it
On Fri, Aug 9, 2019 at 9:57 AM The Wanderer wrote:
>
> On 2019-08-09 at 09:46, John Hasler wrote:
>
> > Étienne writes:
> >
> >> ...profanity...
> >
> > Profanity is a matter of context. As used in this discussion "shit"
> > is just a synonym for "manure".
>
> To be pedantic, "shit" isn't profani
On 2019-08-09 at 09:46, John Hasler wrote:
> Étienne writes:
>
>> ...profanity...
>
> Profanity is a matter of context. As used in this discussion "shit"
> is just a synonym for "manure".
To be pedantic, "shit" isn't profanity in the first place; it's
vulgarity.
Profanity deals with matters r
Celejar writes:
> It does? Here's what the "Debian Position on Software Patents" says:
> Debian will not knowingly distribute software encumbered by patents;
> Debian contributors should not package or distribute software they know
> to infringe a patent.
The key word is "knowingly". If you beli
tomás, on 2019-08-09:
> On Fri, Aug 09, 2019 at 12:24:41PM +0200, Étienne Mollier wrote:
[...]
> >My message was actually addressed to anyone
> > on the list, especially some writers with stronger language than
> > usual, but I can't recall you being part of this set. Yes, I
Étienne writes:
> ...profanity...
Profanity is a matter of context. As used in this discussion "shit" is
just a synonym for "manure".
--
John Hasler
jhas...@newsguy.com
Elmwood, WI USA
Steven Mainor writes:
> It looks like there are some ESPRESSOBIN v7s on Amazon right now.
Excellent. When I looked yesterday Amazon said "None available". I
think I'll order one today. The ancient Dell I'm now using as a
router/firewall is getting flaky. I've wanted to replace it some time
b
On Fri, 9 Aug 2019 13:00:13 - (UTC)
"tb75252" wrote:
Hello tb75252,
>Thanks, Brad!
YW. By the sound of it, the outcome was successful.
--
Regards _
/ ) "The blindingly obvious is
/ _)radnever immediately apparent"
Never much liked playing there anyway
Dan Ritter writes:
> Martin was just sense-of-wondering at modern technology. I'm
> guessing his eventual project will snap frames for OCR on
> demand, then send the output through a braille terminal or
> a speech synthesizer.
Our messages basically crossed due to the time lag here
betwee
On Fri, Aug 09, 2019 at 12:24:41PM +0200, Étienne Mollier wrote:
[...]
> Good morning tomás,
>
> Sincere apologies if you took it personally,
No worries, I didn't. Not as an offense, by the least. No need
to apoligize.
> I did not intend to
> targe
On Fri, Aug 9, 2019, at 03:15, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Thursday 08 August 2019 18:01:01 ghe wrote:
>
> > On 8/8/19 4:39 AM, Kenneth Parker wrote:
> > > I also hear stories about people, using Raspberry Pi Systems as
> > > Servers.
> >
> > At least a 3+, on a T1, with a good UPS, well backed up,
On Thu, 08 Aug 2019 19:05:03 -0500
John Hasler wrote:
...
> Also realize that patent infringement is not a crime (in the USA).
> Government won't enforce your patent for you. It is a tort, and is
> grounds for the patent owner to sue for actual damages (there are no
> statutory damages as with
> On Fri, Aug 09, 2019 at 11:12:22AM +0200, Étienne Mollier wrote:
> > tomás, on 2019-08-09:
> > > (Yes, and there's some hidden message in my seemingly OT comment,
> > > but I'll leave that as an exercise to the reader ;-)
> >
> > Oh my ${DEITY}, once you see it, you cannot "un-see" it...
> >
> >
On Wed, Aug 7, 2019, 3:35 PM Steven Mainor wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I'm looking for advice on how to build a home server with a primary focus
> on
> security. I plan to run nextcloud and a mail server that will serve 3 to 5
> people at most.
>
> My requirements are:
>
> A server setup that can be run
On Fri, Aug 09, 2019 at 11:12:22AM +0200, Étienne Mollier wrote:
> tomás, on 2019-08-09:
> > (Yes, and there's some hidden message in my seemingly OT comment,
> > but I'll leave that as an exercise to the reader ;-)
>
> Oh my ${DEITY}, once you see it, you cannot "un-see" it...
>
> It sounds like
tomás, on 2019-08-09:
> (Yes, and there's some hidden message in my seemingly OT comment,
> but I'll leave that as an exercise to the reader ;-)
Oh my ${DEITY}, once you see it, you cannot "un-see" it...
It sounds like a good opportunity to recall the code of conduct
of the list; in addition to o
[...]
> No,
> I am helping the OP. As one wise man said once: from shit you can make only
> shit [...]
This wise man didn't know about agriculture, then.
(Yes, and there's some hidden message in my seemingly OT comment,
but I'll leave that as an exercise to the reader ;-)
Nevermind, cheers
--
On Thursday 08 August 2019 18:01:01 ghe wrote:
> On 8/8/19 4:39 AM, Kenneth Parker wrote:
> > I also hear stories about people, using Raspberry Pi Systems as
> > Servers.
>
> At least a 3+, on a T1, with a good UPS, well backed up, and with
> clones of hardware and software near at hand. And runni
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