Re: hp-plugin fails

2019-08-05 Thread Pierre Frenkiel
On Thu, 1 Aug 2019, Brian wrote: Printing is comprehensively covered on the wiki. A starting point is https://wiki.debian.org/QuickPrintQueuesCUPS Scanning is trickier because user-facing software needs developing. Have look at https://wiki.debian.org/SaneOverNetwork#airprint thank you B

Re: Virtual Box

2019-08-05 Thread Keith Bainbridge
On 3/8/19 9:10 pm, Nate Bargmann wrote: * On 2019 03 Aug 02:25 -0500, Sven Hartge wrote: Nate Bargmann wrote: On 2019 02 Aug 12:11 -0500, Peter Hillier-Brook wrote: Given that VBox is no longer in the Buster repositories I tried to install the Stretch .deb package from the VBox web site. dp

Re: Virtual Box

2019-08-05 Thread Keith Bainbridge
On 3/8/19 3:39 am, Etienne Mollier wrote: Since you are coming from the VirtualBox world, I would suggest to check out the package "virt-manager" which provides a GUI allowing to drive your KVM virtual machines. You may find more details about this program on its homepage: https://virt-

Re: WiFi interface unexpected response

2019-08-05 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 06 aug 19, 01:34:43, zetam.imap wrote: > hello > I have quite (to me) unexplained behavior in a wifi interface I defined > in /etc/network/interfaces config file. > I turned off NetworkManager > >  root@:~ # systemctl stop NetworkManager.service >  root@:~ # systemctl disable NetworkManager

Re: x and virtual consoles

2019-08-05 Thread Ed
On 2019-08-06 09:02+0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Lu, 05 aug 19, 21:56:55, Ed wrote: > > > > How do you run two login managers though so that you can have two users > > share the same computer without having to log out? In other words, > > whilst I go and make dinner I want to allow someone e

Re: x and virtual consoles

2019-08-05 Thread Ed
On 2019-08-05 16:59-0500, David Wright wrote: > Perhaps this is all to do with your DM. I use startx, and since > stretch the Xserver runs "on top of" the VC that started it, and > as the user, not root. In the past, Xservers ran as root on VC7, > VC8, … Does lightdm or gdm act as your greeter? I

Re: mount weirdness

2019-08-05 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 05 aug 19, 15:33:57, Dennis Wicks wrote: > > It seems that something in the mount process does not like "wa1" for a mount > point. Anybody have similar recent problems? Please show your fstab and the output of 'lsblk -f'. Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser

Re: x and virtual consoles

2019-08-05 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 05 aug 19, 21:56:55, Ed wrote: > > How do you run two login managers though so that you can have two users > share the same computer without having to log out? In other words, > whilst I go and make dinner I want to allow someone else to sit here, > without having to shut applications do

Re: Virtual Box

2019-08-05 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 05 aug 19, 12:06:57, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > I've read that apt released in 2014 or so. Its man page in Stretch is > dated 2015. So, it could have been available first in Jessie, but have > no idea if the local .deb install with dependency checking was included > then, but probably was.

Re: PROGRESS!! - was {Re: Wireless home LAN - WiFi vs Bluetooth?}

2019-08-05 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 05 aug 19, 14:55:11, David Wright wrote: > > I think it's made clear in the tomás quotation, about 18 lines above > Richard's citation of the same. Regardless, the OP is connecting two > machines (requiring firmware) running DEs on stretch, and has an > 8-port switch lying around too, so no

Re: Don't disable recoomends by default

2019-08-05 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 05 aug 19, 22:50:17, Urs Thuermann wrote: > Jonas Smedegaard writes: > > > > What is wrong is to suppress all recommendations by default. > > I have done this for years now, i.e. I have > > APT::Install-Recommends "false"; > > in /etc/apt/apt.conf and I haven't had any problems, une

WiFi interface unexpected response

2019-08-05 Thread zetam.imap
hello I have quite (to me) unexplained behavior in a wifi interface I defined in /etc/network/interfaces config file. I turned off NetworkManager  root@:~ # systemctl stop NetworkManager.service  root@:~ # systemctl disable NetworkManager The /etc/network/interface file content auto lo enp0s25 

Re: systemd messages relating to non-existent devices

2019-08-05 Thread Richard Hector
On 6/08/19 2:38 PM, David Wright wrote: > On Tue 06 Aug 2019 at 14:08:05 (+1200), Richard Hector wrote: >> I'm getting messages like this in my logs: >> >> Aug 6 13:16:18 akl-host3 systemd[1]: dev-xvda9.device: Job >> dev-xvda9.device/start timed out. >> Aug 6 13:16:18 akl-host3 systemd[1]: Timed

Re: systemd messages relating to non-existent devices

2019-08-05 Thread David Wright
On Tue 06 Aug 2019 at 14:08:05 (+1200), Richard Hector wrote: > I'm getting messages like this in my logs: > > Aug 6 13:16:18 akl-host3 systemd[1]: dev-xvda9.device: Job > dev-xvda9.device/start timed out. > Aug 6 13:16:18 akl-host3 systemd[1]: Timed out waiting for device > dev-xvda9.device. >

systemd messages relating to non-existent devices

2019-08-05 Thread Richard Hector
Hi all, I'm getting messages like this in my logs: Aug 6 13:16:18 akl-host3 systemd[1]: dev-xvda9.device: Job dev-xvda9.device/start timed out. Aug 6 13:16:18 akl-host3 systemd[1]: Timed out waiting for device dev-xvda9.device. Aug 6 13:16:18 akl-host3 systemd[1]: Dependency failed for /dev/xv

Re: where is my disk space

2019-08-05 Thread David Wright
On Mon 05 Aug 2019 at 16:33:29 (-), Curt wrote: > On 2019-08-05, davidson wrote: > > > > To me it looks like the log below is telling you that your power key > > was either being held down or stuck in that position. > > > > That is all. > > Whatever libinput is trying to say is apparently rep

Re: x and virtual consoles

2019-08-05 Thread David Wright
On Mon 05 Aug 2019 at 21:56:55 (+0100), Ed wrote: > On 2019-08-05 13:11+0200, deloptes wrote: > > IMO you can not run multiple X sessions from the same user. I am not > > 100% sure, but I can imagine what would happen with the session > > manager. > > I have done in the past, one 'ed' would run

Re: Don't disable recoomends by default

2019-08-05 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Urs Thuermann (2019-08-05 17:50:17) > Jonas Smedegaard writes: > > > Quoting Stephan Seitz (2019-07-12 09:30:38) > > > On Fr, Jul 12, 2019 at 09:13:29 -0300, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > > >Wrong. Suggests are for packages useful only "sometimes", > > > >recommends are for pacakges neede

Re: Virtual Box

2019-08-05 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Mon, 5 Aug 2019 15:12:18 -0500 David Wright wrote: > On Mon 05 Aug 2019 at 12:06:57 (-0700), Patrick Bartek wrote: > > On Mon, 5 Aug 2019 11:50:07 -0400 Greg Wooledge > > wrote: > > > On Mon, Aug 05, 2019 at 08:44:35AM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > > > On Mon, 5 Aug 2019 08:41:06 -040

Re: Don't disable recoomends by default

2019-08-05 Thread Michael Stone
On Mon, Aug 05, 2019 at 11:03:53PM +0200, Urs Thuermann wrote: Jonas Smedegaard writes: Quoting John Crawley (2019-07-12 22:52:55) > Anyway, even if your system default is to install Recommends, apt-get > (and apt too?) always gets user approval before installing anything > beyond the package

Re: Don't disable recoomends by default

2019-08-05 Thread Urs Thuermann
Jonas Smedegaard writes: > Quoting John Crawley (2019-07-12 22:52:55) > > > Anyway, even if your system default is to install Recommends, apt-get > > (and apt too?) always gets user approval before installing anything > > beyond the package asked for. If the list looks too long (s)he can > >

Re: Don't disable recoomends by default

2019-08-05 Thread Urs Thuermann
Jonas Smedegaard writes: > Quoting Stephan Seitz (2019-07-12 09:30:38) > > On Fr, Jul 12, 2019 at 09:13:29 -0300, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > >Wrong. Suggests are for packages useful only "sometimes", recommends > > >are for pacakges needed in "all but unusual installations." > > > > From my ex

Re: x and virtual consoles

2019-08-05 Thread Ed
On 2019-08-05 13:11+0200, deloptes wrote: > IMO you can not run multiple X sessions from the same user. I am not > 100% sure, but I can imagine what would happen with the session > manager. I have done in the past, one 'ed' would run xfce and another would run evilwm. However, the majority of u

Re: x and virtual consoles

2019-08-05 Thread Ed
On 2019-08-05 09:57-, Curt wrote: > On 2019-08-04, Ed wrote: > > Hello, > > > > For years I would happily ctrl-alt-f<1-6> for an additional x.org > > session by running 'startx' and another window manager. Until now-ish. > > > > What I have observed is that x sessions started from a text cons

mount weirdness

2019-08-05 Thread Dennis Wicks
I recently rebooted after an upgrade that generated "Jul 28 17:13 initrd.img-4.19.0-5-686-pae" and when I was finally U&R I discovered that a mount didn't happen. (I am on Debian 10 Bullseye and my last kernel resulted in "Jul 18 17:23 vmlinuz-4.19.0-5-686-pae".) I have mount points /w

Re: Virtual Box

2019-08-05 Thread David Wright
On Mon 05 Aug 2019 at 12:06:57 (-0700), Patrick Bartek wrote: > On Mon, 5 Aug 2019 11:50:07 -0400 Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 05, 2019 at 08:44:35AM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > > On Mon, 5 Aug 2019 08:41:06 -0400 Greg Wooledge > > > wrote: > > > > On Fri, Aug 02, 2019 at 02:42:36PM

Re: PROGRESS!! - was {Re: Wireless home LAN - WiFi vs Bluetooth?}

2019-08-05 Thread David Wright
On Mon 05 Aug 2019 at 12:43:20 (-0400), rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Sunday, August 04, 2019 11:16:09 AM Richard Hector wrote: > > On 5/08/19 12:07 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > On Sun, Aug 04, 2019 at 12:58:14PM +0100, mick crane wrote: > > >> what sort of cable ? > > >> If ethernet, machine

Re: Virtual Box

2019-08-05 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Mon, 5 Aug 2019 11:50:07 -0400 Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Mon, Aug 05, 2019 at 08:44:35AM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > On Mon, 5 Aug 2019 08:41:06 -0400 > > Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > > On Fri, Aug 02, 2019 at 02:42:36PM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > > > To help installing the .d

Cita: Centro Citibanamex

2019-08-05 Thread Angela Diaz
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Re: x and virtual consoles

2019-08-05 Thread Curt
On 2019-08-05, Felix Miata wrote: > Curt composed on 2019-08-05 11:29 (UTC): > >> Maybe this is the bug we're looking for: > >> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=834270 > >> Fix (Simon says): > >> * removing the call to /usr/bin/clear_console from ~/.bash_logout >> (console is c

Re: x and virtual consoles

2019-08-05 Thread Ed
On 2019-08-05 11:11-0400, Felix Miata wrote: > > > Fix (Simon says): > > > * removing the call to /usr/bin/clear_console from ~/.bash_logout > > (console is cleared anyway nowadays) > > * replacing the call to /usr/bin/clear_console with /usr/bin/reset in > > ~/.bash_logout Why would bash_

Re: PROGRESS!! - was {Re: Wireless home LAN - WiFi vs Bluetooth?}

2019-08-05 Thread rhkramer
On Sunday, August 04, 2019 11:16:09 AM Richard Hector wrote: > On 5/08/19 12:07 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > On Sun, Aug 04, 2019 at 12:58:14PM +0100, mick crane wrote: > >> what sort of cable ? > >> If ethernet, machine to machine directly seem to recall you might > >> want a cross over cable.

Re: where is my disk space

2019-08-05 Thread Curt
On 2019-08-05, davidson wrote: > > To me it looks like the log below is telling you that your power key > was either being held down or stuck in that position. > > That is all. Whatever libinput is trying to say is apparently repeated to the point where I would consider the repetition itself to b

Re: where is my disk space

2019-08-05 Thread davidson
On Mon, 5 Aug 2019, Long Wind wrote: Thank David!it seems it's bug of X  tail -100 .local/share/xorg/Xorg.1.log To me it looks like the log below is telling you that your power key was either being held down or stuck in that position. That is all. [ 21261.465] (EE) libinput bug: Key count

Re: Virtual Box

2019-08-05 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Aug 05, 2019 at 08:44:35AM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote: > On Mon, 5 Aug 2019 08:41:06 -0400 > Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > On Fri, Aug 02, 2019 at 02:42:36PM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > > To help installing the .deb file, install gdebi-core (commandline > > > version) from Buster's rep

Re: Virtual Box

2019-08-05 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Mon, 5 Aug 2019 08:41:06 -0400 Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Fri, Aug 02, 2019 at 02:42:36PM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > To help installing the .deb file, install gdebi-core (commandline > > version) from Buster's repo. It will take care of dependencies > > which dpkg does not. > > Or sim

Re: x and virtual consoles

2019-08-05 Thread Felix Miata
Curt composed on 2019-08-05 11:29 (UTC): > Maybe this is the bug we're looking for: > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=834270 > Fix (Simon says): > * removing the call to /usr/bin/clear_console from ~/.bash_logout > (console is cleared anyway nowadays) > * replacing the cal

Re: Virtual Box

2019-08-05 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Aug 02, 2019 at 02:42:36PM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote: > To help installing the .deb file, install gdebi-core (commandline > version) from Buster's repo. It will take care of dependencies > which dpkg does not. Or simply use "apt install ./whatever.deb". Don't forget the leading "./" or

Psensor Problem in Debian Buster

2019-08-05 Thread Stephen P. Molnar
I have upgraded from Stretch to Buster. Psensor fails to autoscale the CPU temperature in Buster when I am logged in a user, although it did autoscale the temperature in Stretch. Buster shows the CPU temperature as 41 degrees Celsius as a user, but autoscales running as root. Insights to a

Re: x and virtual consoles

2019-08-05 Thread Curt
On 2019-08-04, Ed wrote: > > 1. log in via lightdm/gdm > 2. switch to a text console > 3. run startx and use the window manager for a moment or two > 4. switch back to first session Maybe this is the bug we're looking for: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=834270 Fix (Si

Re: x and virtual consoles

2019-08-05 Thread deloptes
Ed wrote: > For years I would happily ctrl-alt-f<1-6> for an additional x.org > session by running 'startx' and another window manager. Until now-ish. > > The way to reproduce the problem is as follows: > > 1. log in via lightdm/gdm > 2. switch to a text console > 3. run startx and use the windo

Re: x and virtual consoles

2019-08-05 Thread Curt
On 2019-08-04, Ed wrote: > Hello, > > For years I would happily ctrl-alt-f<1-6> for an additional x.org > session by running 'startx' and another window manager. Until now-ish. > > > What I have observed is that x sessions started from a text console can > cooperate with each other, it seems lim