On Mi, 03 iul 19, 20:26:48, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Wednesday 03 July 2019 18:06:18 John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
>
> > Hi Gene!
> >
> > On 7/3/19 10:42 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > Just one of the things its taken over. Now we have a different
> > > command to set the hostname too if you wan
On Jo, 04 iul 19, 01:47:58, Matthew Crews wrote:
>
> You know, this got me thinking. What *is* the oldest 32-bit x86 CPU that
> we can use in Stretch for a VM host? And assuming we are talking
> out-of-the-box experience, ie I download a standard ISO and fire it up.
This might get you started:
ht
Renato Gallo wrote:
> For the use his old father might do with a computer I think that cheap
> board could do. Plus, it's used by babies can be used by everyone.
> Plus, it's ready out of the box for the use it's meant.
> Plus can be customized for his father use like a tailored tuxedo (better
> i
Renato Gallo wrote:
> Fingerprints are a good option
>
> Renato Gallo
>
No, they are not and it was explained previously why
Renato Gallo wrote:
> You did but nevertheless to give such an option would be a bad idea
> (someone could be crazy enough to be tempted to use it).
For his fathers computer - are you serious? I guess his father does not
care.
On Wednesday 03 July 2019 17:08:05 Gene Heskett wrote:
It was recommended I move these questions to the debian-user list, so
here it is.
> On Wednesday 03 July 2019 16:07:04 Andreas Jellinghaus wrote:
> > No idea. Sorry if I missed a mail with the reasons why stock debian
> > wouldn't work?
>
> T
On Wednesday 03 July 2019 16:12:31 Reco wrote:
And Gene moved. Question unanswered yet.
> Hi.
>
> On Wed, Jul 03, 2019 at 02:57:35PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > Regardless of what I do, I cannot get rid of the avahi junk in an ip
> > a report, so my local 192.168.xx.nn/24 net is the only
On Wednesday 03 July 2019 18:06:18 John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
> Hi Gene!
>
> On 7/3/19 10:42 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > Just one of the things its taken over. Now we have a different
> > command to set the hostname too if you want it to stick over a
> > reboot. Someone a couple weeks ago s
On Wednesday 03 July 2019 18:06:18 John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
> Hi Gene!
>
> On 7/3/19 10:42 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > Just one of the things its taken over. Now we have a different
> > command to set the hostname too if you want it to stick over a
> > reboot. Someone a couple weeks ago s
On 7/3/19 10:20 AM, Stefan Monnier wrote:
>> That said I do not believe that any existing i386 32-bit-only hardware
>> that is still floating around even supports the virtual machine
>> extensions necessary to run a true VM host.
>
> I haven't use qemu on my 32bit only i686 machines recently, but
On Wed 03 Jul 2019 at 18:34:28 (+0300), Reco wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 03, 2019 at 03:29:27PM +0200, Renato Gallo wrote:
> > Would be nice for any cracker if it could be possible to get access by
> > shoulder surfing my fingerprint reader ;)
One hears gruesome stories about fingerprint security.
> Us
On Wed, Jul 03, 2019 at 02:05:05PM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote:
- start by reinstall Debian using a 64bit system this time
If it had been done 10 years ago it wouldn't need to be done now. :) If
you just don't want to bother that's fine, but not great advice for
anyone starting out.
In my
> Because the hardware features to permit efficient virtualization weren't
> available on i386-only CPUs. (And there's really no good reason to run a VM
> host [vs guest] in i386 mode if it can run in amd64 mode.)
By "there's really no good ..." I think you mean "I can't think of any
good ...".
F
On Wed, Jul 03, 2019 at 01:20:06PM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote:
think in this day and age it is a bit silly to try and run a VM on a
32-bit host
Why? Often the question is not "which hardware should I pick to run
this VM" but "what kinds of technology should I use to run this software
on this
> For the use his old father might do with a computer I think that cheap
> board could do.
Cheap or not, new hardware implies more garbage to dispose of, (a lot)
more carbon emissions to produce the new hardware, ...
BTW, for all I know, the OP might already be running Raspbian on a PI ;-)
> I have an innate desire to help people, but more importantly I give
> people the benefit of the doubt. Besides I self-taught myself a few
> things along the way, so I consider it a win.
Yes, please (and please remind me of that as well when I fail to follow
it ;-)
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On Wed, Jul 03, 2019 at 06:34:28PM +0300, Reco wrote:
> Hi.
>
> On Wed, Jul 03, 2019 at 03:29:27PM +0200, Renato Gallo wrote:
> > Would be nice for any cracker if it could be possible to get access by
> > shoulder surfing my fingerprint reader ;)
>
> Using a fingerprint instead of a passwo
On Mi, 03 iul 19, 11:53:11, Michael Stone wrote:
>
> maildrop is definitely recommended these days (especially for anyone still
> running procmail).
imapfilter works fine if you use IMAP and your server has poor or no
filtering (exposed to users).
Kind regards,
Andrei
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On Wed, Jul 03, 2019 at 06:44:42PM +0300, Reco wrote:
Hi.
On Wed, Jul 03, 2019 at 11:39:22AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
On Wed, Jul 03, 2019 at 06:30:32PM +0300, Reco wrote:
> I'm merely curious why you have to write a new program for this.
> I mean, there are maildrop and procmail for
Hi.
On Wed, Jul 03, 2019 at 11:39:22AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 03, 2019 at 06:30:32PM +0300, Reco wrote:
> > I'm merely curious why you have to write a new program for this.
> > I mean, there are maildrop and procmail for client-side and sieve for
> > the server-side alre
On Wed, Jul 03, 2019 at 06:30:32PM +0300, Reco wrote:
> I'm merely curious why you have to write a new program for this.
> I mean, there are maildrop and procmail for client-side and sieve for
> the server-side already.
procmail might have worked, but it's more of a pain to learn procmail
than it
Hi.
On Wed, Jul 03, 2019 at 03:29:27PM +0200, Renato Gallo wrote:
> Would be nice for any cracker if it could be possible to get access by
> shoulder surfing my fingerprint reader ;)
Using a fingerprint instead of a password is a bad idea. Using a
fingerprint instead of a username - that
folder (was: Re: Choice of VMs under i386 Stretch?)
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In-Reply-To: <20190703123416.gw2...@eeg.ccf.org>
Hi.
On Wed, Jul 03, 2019 at 08:34:16AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 03, 2019 at 05:01:11AM +0200, Matthew Crews wrote:
> > I have no idea what an Owlett thread is,
writes:
> On Wed, Jul 03, 2019 at 01:34:00PM +, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
>> Jonas Smedegaard writes:
>>
>> > Quoting Rodolfo Medina (2019-07-03 14:42:13)
>>
>>
>> Thanks indeed... He will do... making errors in typing a blind password
>> and re-typing it again and again till it's all right
On Wed, Jul 03, 2019 at 05:19:09PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> You mean, password login via ssh is automatically disabled for
> a passwordless user?
>
> Smart move, that :)
That's correct. A passwordless account cannot login via ssh using
password authentication. You just get a failure eve
On Wed, Jul 03, 2019 at 05:13:44PM +0200, Nicolas George wrote:
> to...@tuxteam.de (12019-07-03):
> > That said, you might want to disable ssh logins for that user
>
> They are not stupid: that is already the default.
You mean, password login via ssh is automatically disabled for
a passwordless u
to...@tuxteam.de (12019-07-03):
> That said, you might want to disable ssh logins for that user
They are not stupid: that is already the default.
Regards,
--
Nicolas George
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On Wed, Jul 03, 2019 at 01:34:00PM +, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
> Jonas Smedegaard writes:
>
> > Quoting Rodolfo Medina (2019-07-03 14:42:13)
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks... of course it is... absolutely. I wanted to have him accustomed
> >> with using a password... only, he still does many errors
Renato Gallo writes:
> http://www.eldy.eu/software/download/
>
> Renato Gallo
Well, thanks, but... no, I just want him to use it the same way I do... in
the clever Linux and Debian Linux manner that we all know and appreciate..
Making things too easy is not always a good idea...
Cheers,
Ro
http://www.eldy.eu/software/download/
Renato Gallo
- Original Message -
From: andreimpope...@gmail.com
To: "debian-user"
Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2019 4:33:44 PM
Subject: Re: How to have password shown?
On Mi, 03 iul 19, 14:17:34, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
>
> Thanks for your suggestion.
On Tuesday, July 2, 2019 at 8:30:04 PM UTC-4, Jude DaShiell wrote:
> Try running script if the system is already installed then run each of
> the problem commands then type exit. You'll get a file called
> typescript which is ansi text that probably will get through the spam
> filters if you inclu
On Mi, 03 iul 19, 14:17:34, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
>
> Thanks for your suggestion... No, it's very simple and familiar with him...
A keyboard with a different layout (e.g. alphabetic) might also help
with the password.
> it's just that he's at his really first experiences with a computer machin
Brian writes:
> On Wed 03 Jul 2019 at 13:34:00 +, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
>
>>
>> Thanks indeed... He will do... making errors in typing a blind password
>> and re-typing it again and again till it's all right... ;-)
>
> Most people mistype at some time; have you considered why your father
On Wed 03 Jul 2019 at 13:34:00 +, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
> Jonas Smedegaard writes:
>
> > Quoting Rodolfo Medina (2019-07-03 14:42:13)
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks... of course it is... absolutely. I wanted to have him accustomed
> >> with using a password... only, he still does many errors at
Jonas Smedegaard writes:
> Quoting Rodolfo Medina (2019-07-03 14:42:13)
>>
>>
>> Thanks... of course it is... absolutely. I wanted to have him accustomed
>> with using a password... only, he still does many errors at keyboard...
>
> I think I understand the scope of this challenge.
>
> Woul
Would be nice for any cracker if it could be possible to get access by shoulder
surfing my fingerprint reader ;)
Renato Gallo
- Original Message -
From: "Carl Fink"
To: "debian-user"
Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2019 3:10:18 PM
Subject: Re: How to have password shown?
On Wed, Jul 03, 20
Quoting Rodolfo Medina (2019-07-03 14:42:13)
> Håkon Alstadheim writes:
>
> > Den 03.07.2019 13:24, skrev Rodolfo Medina:
> >> Hi all...
> >>
> >> Is there any a way to have my user-password shown when logging into
> >> Debian in tty console, or also within X system when changing to
> >> root?
On Wed, Jul 03, 2019 at 02:17:45PM +0200, Renato Gallo wrote:
> If you are living alone in a bunker under an alien planet surface ok
> "shoulder surfing is not an issue"
If someone is shoulder-surfing, and really wants the password, she will just
watch your fingers, Renato. Slightly harder but no
On Wed, Jul 03, 2019 at 02:42:46PM +0200, Renato Gallo wrote:
> Raspberry pi's Raspbian has X without password by default.
But that's... insecure! Bh :^)
Really: replacing clear-text password in a console with autologin
for X. Sheesh.
Now more seriously:
- the OP has explicitly asked for c
Renato Gallo (12019-07-03):
> You forgot the "probably sharing" part of the message.
> You forgot that Rasbian is Debian for Raspberry pi + Desktop autologin by
> default (without the research and config part).
> You forgot that Raspberry is really cheap.
I forgot none of this things. You obvious
Fingerprints are a good option
Renato Gallo
- Original Message -
From: "Jonas Smedegaard"
To: "debian-user"
Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2019 3:00:04 PM
Subject: Re: How to have password shown?
Quoting to...@tuxteam.de (2019-07-03 14:12:22)
> On Wed, Jul 03, 2019 at 11:24:54AM +, Rodo
You forgot the "probably sharing" part of the message.
You forgot that Rasbian is Debian for Raspberry pi + Desktop autologin by
default (without the research and config part).
You forgot that Raspberry is really cheap.
Renato Gallo
- Original Message -
From: "Nicolas George"
To: "debi
Nicolas George writes:
> Renato Gallo (12019-07-03):
>> For the use his old father might do with a computer I think that cheap board
>> could do.
>
> And what is he supposed to do with the computer he already has for that
> purpose? Throw it away?
>
>> Plus can be customized for his father use li
Quoting to...@tuxteam.de (2019-07-03 14:12:22)
> On Wed, Jul 03, 2019 at 11:24:54AM +, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
> > Is there any a way to have my user-password shown when logging into
> > Debian in tty console, or also within X system when changing to
> > root? It is for my old father... it'd
Renato Gallo (12019-07-03):
> For the use his old father might do with a computer I think that cheap board
> could do.
And what is he supposed to do with the computer he already has for that
purpose? Throw it away?
> Plus can be customized for his father use like a tailored tuxedo
You realize t
For the use his old father might do with a computer I think that cheap board
could do.
Plus, it's used by babies can be used by everyone.
Plus, it's ready out of the box for the use it's meant.
Plus can be customized for his father use like a tailored tuxedo (better in
some ways than a computer t
Renato Gallo (12019-07-03):
> Raspberry pi's Raspbian has X without password by default.
> The new board raspberry 4 is out with 4 gigs and a better cpu (I have
> preordered it for around 60 € from melopero shop).
> Might be a nice solution for the old father.
Are you really suggesting buying com
Raspberry pi's Raspbian has X without password by default.
The new board raspberry 4 is out with 4 gigs and a better cpu (I have
preordered it for around 60 € from melopero shop).
Might be a nice solution for the old father.
Renato Gallo
- Original Message -
From: "Håkon Alstadheim"
To
Håkon Alstadheim writes:
> Den 03.07.2019 13:24, skrev Rodolfo Medina:
>> Hi all...
>>
>> Is there any a way to have my user-password shown when logging into Debian
>> in tty console, or also within X system when changing to root? It is for my
>> old father... it'd be easier for him to see what
You did but nevertheless to give such an option would be a bad idea
(someone could be crazy enough to be tempted to use it).
Renato Gallo
- Original Message -
From: "Rodolfo Medina"
To: "debian-user"
Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2019 2:26:24 PM
Subject: Re: How to have password shown?
Re
On Wed, Jul 03, 2019 at 05:01:11AM +0200, Matthew Crews wrote:
> I have no idea what an Owlett thread is,
It's what you're seeing right now.
It's also the reason I end up writing a filtering program to send all
email from certain From: addresses into a spam folder.
Renato Gallo writes:
> and that's s good security-wise
>
> Renato Gallo
Renato, thanks...
but didn't I clearly specify the special circumstances of my (strange, I agree)
request...? It seems to me that I did...
Cheers,
Rodolfo
On Tue, Jul 02, 2019 at 05:45:32PM -0600, ghe wrote:
> When I run one of these programs and 'ps aux' I see lynx or alsamixer or
> aptitude, but no ncurses. I'm not sure what, if anything, that means.
> But I expected to see ncurses.
ncurses is a C library. A C program like lynx may be linked agai
Den 03.07.2019 13:24, skrev Rodolfo Medina:
Hi all...
Is there any a way to have my user-password shown when logging into Debian in
tty console, or also within X system when changing to root? It is for my old
father... it'd be easier for him to see what he's typing. In internet I found
some
On Tue, Jul 02, 2019 at 03:10:06PM -0700, pe...@easthope.ca wrote:
> dalton has dnsmasq. From distant recollection, name resolution failed when
> the system was running and dnsmasq was not. That motivated direct reference
> to IP addresses. To the best of my knowledge, an IP address should suf
If you are living alone in a bunker under an alien planet surface ok "shoulder
surfing is not an issue"
Renato Gallo
- Original Message -
From: "tomas"
To: "renato"
Cc: "Rodolfo Medina" , "debian-user"
Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2019 2:14:14 PM
Subject: Re: How to have password shown?
Renato Gallo (12019-07-03):
> and that's s good security-wise
The good practice, security-wise, is to start by understanding the
situation and the threat.
Regards,
--
Nicolas George
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On Wed, Jul 03, 2019 at 02:10:50PM +0200, Renato Gallo wrote:
> one of the worst ideas I've ever heard since 1974
>
> read this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shoulder_surfing_(computer_security)
I assume Rodolfo knows all that. Perhaps the context is one where
shoulder surfing is not an issue.
S
and that's s good security-wise
Renato Gallo
- Original Message -
From: to...@tuxteam.de
To: "Rodolfo Medina"
Cc: "debian-user"
Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2019 2:12:22 PM
Subject: Re: How to have password shown?
On Wed, Jul 03, 2019 at 11:24:54AM +, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
>
On Wed, Jul 03, 2019 at 11:24:54AM +, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
> Hi all...
>
> Is there any a way to have my user-password shown when logging into Debian in
> tty console, or also within X system when changing to root? It is for my old
> father... it'd be easier for him to see what he's typing.
one of the worst ideas I've ever heard since 1974
read this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shoulder_surfing_(computer_security)
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Hi all...
Is there any a way to have my user-password shown when logging into Debian in
tty console, or also within X system when changing to root? It is for my old
father... it'd be easier for him to see what he's typing. In internet I found
some procedures to have asterisks shown; would it be
pe...@easthope.ca wrote:
>
> The mainboard interface appears as eth0.
> "ip link show" reports eth0 is up.
> "ip addr show" reports an IPv6 address for eth0. No IPv4 address.
>
> ping to a neighbour reports
> connect: network is unreachable
>
> Is IPv6 the default now? Shorewall configur
On Tue, Jul 02, 2019 at 05:45:32PM -0600, ghe wrote:
> Buster, Supermicro 5036T (aka sbox), Radeon HD 6450/7450/8450 according
> to lspci, RME Hammerfall sound card
[...]
> The problem is that, on sbox, alsamixer and aptitude are badly displayed
> -- alsamixer so bad that it's not usable. The ver
On Wed, Jul 03, 2019 at 08:17:22AM -, Curt wrote:
> On 2019-07-03, wrote:
> >
> >> I have an innate desire to help people, but more importantly I give
> >> people the benefit of the doubt. Besides I self-taught myself a few
> >> things along the way, so I consider it a win.
> >
> > I prefer t
On Wed 03 Jul 2019 at 09:15:47 +0200, Stephan Seitz wrote:
> On Di, Jul 02, 2019 at 08:14:02 +0100, Brian wrote:
> > My upgrade from stretch to buster left networking as it was before. My
> > 70-persistent-net.rules is
> >
> > SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", DRIVERS=="?*",
> > ATTR{address}=="0
On 2019-07-03, wrote:
>
>> I have an innate desire to help people, but more importantly I give
>> people the benefit of the doubt. Besides I self-taught myself a few
>> things along the way, so I consider it a win.
>
> I prefer that one, too :)
People get the benefit of the doubt until they remo
On 2019-07-03, Stephan Seitz wrote:
>
>>Following Curt's suggestion I removed the relevant module and rebooted.
>>'ip a' shows eth0. The advice in the Release Notes
>
> You probably meant that you removed the line?
>
> I noticed that since Debian 9 this file is added to the initrd. So if you
> cha
On Di, Jul 02, 2019 at 08:14:02 +0100, Brian wrote:
My upgrade from stretch to buster left networking as it was before. My
70-persistent-net.rules is
SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", DRIVERS=="?*",
ATTR{address}=="00:90:dc:a2:4d:26",
ATTR{dev_id}=="0x0", ATTR{type}=="1", KERNEL=="eth*", NAME="e
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