Re: Readme sanity check

2019-05-17 Thread Paul Sutton
On 18/05/2019 03:33, bw wrote: > In-Reply-To: <7d98acfd-19b9-ed61-362c-81e714484...@disroot.org> > > ... >> Would it be possible to someone have a read through... > > I like a good read, never heard of rocksndiamonds though. Could not find > the text. I used ff-esr, chromium with no javascri

Re: Debian Releases

2019-05-17 Thread Peter Ehlert
looking forward to it, thanks On 5/17/19 1:55 PM, Francisco M Neto wrote: On Fri, 2019-05-17 at 21:35 +0100, Joe wrote: Don't forget: https://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/ I'm gonna cover that on the next post ;-)

Re: Debian Getting started

2019-05-17 Thread Peter Ehlert
good effort, and a much needed type of promotion thanks On 5/17/19 2:04 PM, Paul Sutton wrote: Hi Following on from Francisco post, I had been thinking about writing something about getting started for a while.  So decided to just get on and do it. http://zleap.net/debian-getting-started/ I

Re: please do *never* use GitHub for free software, was Re: Salsa vs Github

2019-05-17 Thread Richard Hector
On 18/05/19 5:17 PM, Aidan Gauland wrote: > On 18/05/19 11:08 AM, Dominik George wrote: >>> Can you give sources for your claim about their discrimination?  That >>> one is new to me. >> I did. Please read my mails in this thread. > I have, and I just re-read the articles you gave, and I still do n

Re: please do *never* use GitHub for free software, was Re: Salsa vs Github

2019-05-17 Thread Aidan Gauland
On 18/05/19 11:08 AM, Dominik George wrote: >> Can you give sources for your claim about their discrimination?  That >> one is new to me. > I did. Please read my mails in this thread. I have, and I just re-read the articles you gave, and I still do not see anything about discrimination by age, or a

Re: Just had to reset/reboot again, total loss of keyboard & mouse

2019-05-17 Thread Felix Miata
Gene Heskett composed on 2019-05-17 23:16 (UTC-0400): > The first thing I saw as it rebooted was some msgs about hid-common > This was before recovering the journal on the boot drive. > So I at least has a clue where the crash is occurring, hid-common. > What else can I do to nail this down good

Re: please do *never* use GitHub for free software, was Re: Salsa vs Github

2019-05-17 Thread Ben Finney
Mark Allums writes: > On 5/17/19 2:28 AM, Dominik George wrote: > >> Please explain, in detail, why. > > https://mako.cc/writing/hill-free_tools.html > > https://www.adamhyde.net/another-good-reason-not-to-use-github/ > > https://www.mirbsd.org/permalinks/wlog-10_e20170301-tg.htm > > I'm not conv

Just had to reset/reboot again, total loss of keyboard & mouse

2019-05-17 Thread Gene Heskett
The first thing I saw as it rebooted was some msgs about hid-common This was before recovering the journal on the boot drive. So I at least has a clue where the crash is occurring, hid-common. What else can I do to nail this down good enough for a bug report? sudo grep -R hid-common /var/log/* do

Re: please do *never* use GitHub for free software, was Re: Salsa vs Github

2019-05-17 Thread arne
On Fri, 17 May 2019 17:57:55 +0200 Dominik George wrote: > >Does putting software on GitHub give them any kind of claim on the > >intellectual property of the software? > > No. > No, not now But when, matter of time I guess. Been there, done that.

Re: please do *never* use GitHub for free software, was Re: Salsa vs Github

2019-05-17 Thread Dominik George
>Can you give sources for your claim about their discrimination?  That >one is new to me. I did. Please read my mails in this thread. -nik

Re: please do *never* use GitHub for free software, was Re: Salsa vs Github

2019-05-17 Thread Aidan Gauland
On 17/05/19 7:28 PM, Dominik George wrote: >>> please do*never* use GitHub for free software >> Please explain, in detail, why. > If discrimination against parts of the community is not enough for you, > here's why: > > https://mako.cc/writing/hill-free_tools.html > > https://www.adamhyde.net/ano

Re: FW: knockd package long-standing bug

2019-05-17 Thread Brian
On Fri 17 May 2019 at 20:20:03 +, Riccardo Paolo Bestetti wrote: > > You could also consider just applying the patches which work for you > > and getting on with life. Bugs have been reported and not responded > > to. You have done your part; now it is up to someone else who is in > > a positi

Debian Getting started

2019-05-17 Thread Paul Sutton
Hi Following on from Francisco post, I had been thinking about writing something about getting started for a while.  So decided to just get on and do it. http://zleap.net/debian-getting-started/ I am trying to write this from my own view point of being new and explain how I got started and how o

Re: Debian Releases

2019-05-17 Thread Francisco M Neto
On Fri, 2019-05-17 at 21:35 +0100, Joe wrote: > Don't forget: > > https://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/ I'm gonna cover that on the next post ;-) -- []'s, Francisco M Neto GPG: 4096R/D692FBF0 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: Debian Releases

2019-05-17 Thread Joe
On Fri, 17 May 2019 21:20:23 +0100 Paul Sutton wrote: > On 17/05/2019 21:05, Francisco M Neto wrote: > > As the first in a series of (maybe 2) posts about Debian's release > > cycle, I'vecreated the following post. > > > > I would love to receive any feedback on it. > > > > http://fmneto.com.br/

RE: FW: knockd package long-standing bug

2019-05-17 Thread Riccardo Paolo Bestetti
-Original Message- From: Brian Sent: venerdì 17 maggio 2019 19:21 To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: FW: knockd package long-standing bug > You could also consider just applying the patches which work for you and > getting on with life. Bugs have been reported and not respond

Re: Debian Releases

2019-05-17 Thread Paul Sutton
On 17/05/2019 21:05, Francisco M Neto wrote: > As the first in a series of (maybe 2) posts about Debian's release cycle, > I'vecreated the following post. > > I would love to receive any feedback on it. > > http://fmneto.com.br/en/en/archives/2019/tracking-busters-release/ > This is excellent

Debian Releases

2019-05-17 Thread Francisco M Neto
As the first in a series of (maybe 2) posts about Debian's release cycle, I'vecreated the following post. I would love to receive any feedback on it. http://fmneto.com.br/en/en/archives/2019/tracking-busters-release/ -- []'s, Francisco M Neto GPG: 4096R/D692FBF0 signature.asc Description:

Re: using git locally

2019-05-17 Thread mick crane
On 2019-05-17 15:59, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: On 17/05/2019 11:31, mick crane wrote: well that seems to work "git clone myserver:/path_to_git_repository" whereas "git remote add origin myserver:/path_to_git_repository" fatal: not a git repository (or any of the parent directories): .git Th

Re: FW: knockd package long-standing bug

2019-05-17 Thread Brian
On Wed 15 May 2019 at 08:02:01 +, Riccardo Paolo Bestetti wrote: > -Original Message- > From: to...@tuxteam.de > Sent: mercoledì 15 maggio 2019 07:47 > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: FW: knockd package long-standing bug > > Hi Tomás, > > > I don't understand to who

Re: Install backport during netinstall installation process

2019-05-17 Thread Brian
On Thu 16 May 2019 at 14:01:43 +0100, Rory Campbell-Lange wrote: [...] > Consequently I'd be grateful to know if: > > * it is possible to somehow install the backport kernel and dependencies > during the netinstall process > (apt-get install doesn't seem available on the virtual terminals)

Re: buildd and buildbot

2019-05-17 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 17 May 2019 12:26:56 pm to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 10:27:47AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > [...] > > > Turns out the install only left out two of those, so they are now > > installed. I assume I need to setup a jail someplace, so whats next? > > I'm pretty presse

Re: buildd and buildbot

2019-05-17 Thread tomas
On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 10:27:47AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: [...] > Turns out the install only left out two of those, so they are now > installed. I assume I need to setup a jail someplace, so whats next? I'm pretty pressed on time ATM (half a tutorial lying around), so for the next couple

Re: please do *never* use GitHub for free software, was Re: Salsa vs Github

2019-05-17 Thread tomas
On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 11:52:02AM -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: [...] > Does putting software on GitHub give them any kind of claim on the > intellectual property of the software? Absolutely not. *If* there's a strategy behind that (there might be, to the tune of $7.5B), it has to be more s

Re: please do *never* use GitHub for free software, was Re: Salsa vs Github

2019-05-17 Thread Dominik George
>Does putting software on GitHub give them any kind of claim on the >intellectual property of the software? No.

Re: Install backport during netinstall installation process

2019-05-17 Thread Curt
On 2019-05-17, Rory Campbell-Lange wrote: >> >> I'm sure someone here can offer you the exact details of how to do that. > > Thanks again for the advice. > > I'm pretty sure dpkg isn't available in /target but I didn't try a > chroot so maybe I'll give that another go! Well, it's what seems to h

Re: please do *never* use GitHub for free software, was Re: Salsa vs Github

2019-05-17 Thread rhkramer
On Friday, May 17, 2019 03:28:51 AM Dominik George wrote: > >> please do*never* use GitHub for free software > > > >Please explain, in detail, why. > > If discrimination against parts of the community is not enough for you, > here's why: > > https://mako.cc/writing/hill-free_tools.html > > http

Re: Perl does not support utime with nanosecond resolution

2019-05-17 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2019-05-17 15:44 +0200, Steve Keller wrote: > The Perl module Time::HiRes in Debian stretch does support nanosecond > resolution for stat() but not for utime(), although Linux has the > utimensat() system call providing that function. > > $ cat /etc/debian_version > 9.9 > $ perl -e

Re: using git locally

2019-05-17 Thread Jude DaShiell
This comes from David Karl Oliver who is no longer among the living. Marine: Muscles are required intelligence not expected. His cousin joined the Corps too and David Oliver and me worked as civilians for the Navy in the same office. On Fri, 17 May 2019, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: > Date: Fri,

Re: OT: Newbie friendly C++ list

2019-05-17 Thread Brad Rogers
On Fri, 17 May 2019 10:50:52 -0400 rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: Hello rhkra...@gmail.com, >of those real time messaging type things where you post a question and That's IRC. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent" Kill jo

Re: OT: Newbie friendly C++ list

2019-05-17 Thread Dan Purgert
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > Background: I've never fully (or even mostly / sufficiently) grokked C > or C++, but now I'm in the position of having (or at least wanting) to > review (and, ideally, modify) a large program written in C++ > (scintilla /

Re: using git locally

2019-05-17 Thread mick crane
On 2019-05-17 15:05, Brad Rogers wrote: On Fri, 17 May 2019 14:36:36 +0100 thanks -- Key ID4BFEBB31

Re: Install backport during netinstall installation process

2019-05-17 Thread Rory Campbell-Lange
On 17/05/19, Curt (cu...@free.fr) wrote: > On 2019-05-17, Rory Campbell-Lange wrote: > > On 16/05/19, Curt (cu...@free.fr) wrote: > >> On 2019-05-16, Rory Campbell-Lange wrote: > >> > > >> > * it is possible to somehow install the backport kernel and dependencies > >> > during the netinstall pr

Re: using git locally

2019-05-17 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
On 17/05/2019 11:31, mick crane wrote: > well that seems to work > "git clone myserver:/path_to_git_repository" > whereas > "git remote add origin myserver:/path_to_git_repository" > fatal: not a git repository (or any of the parent directories): .git > > probably I can worry about that later at le

OT: Newbie friendly C++ list

2019-05-17 Thread rhkramer
Background: I've never fully (or even mostly / sufficiently) grokked C or C++, but now I'm in the position of having (or at least wanting) to review (and, ideally, modify) a large program written in C++ (scintilla / scite). Question: I would like to find one (or a small number) of "newbie friend

Re: using git locally

2019-05-17 Thread mick crane
On 2019-05-17 14:56, Greg Wooledge wrote: If you really *did* create a git repository on a remote server, and you want to clone it onto your local PC, you use a "git clone" command. Something like: git clone my.server:/whatever.git well that seems to work "git clone myserver:/path_to_git_re

Re: buildd and buildbot

2019-05-17 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 17 May 2019 04:29:04 am to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 03:30:45AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Greetings folks; > > > > Thinking of building a local copy of a project with a cross compiler > > to make rpi (armhf) stuffs on this amd64 box, I installed buildd and > > b

Re: using git locally

2019-05-17 Thread Brad Rogers
On Fri, 17 May 2019 14:36:36 +0100 mick crane wrote: Hello mick, >Is it ssh:// that is wrong or I've failed to get the syntax right for >git ? I'm no expert on git, so ask me questions - I probably won't be able to answer them anyway. :-) That said, this might help:- https://stackoverflow.

Perl does not support utime with nanosecond resolution

2019-05-17 Thread Steve Keller
The Perl module Time::HiRes in Debian stretch does support nanosecond resolution for stat() but not for utime(), although Linux has the utimensat() system call providing that function. $ cat /etc/debian_version 9.9 $ perl -e "use Time::HiRes qw(stat);" $ perl -e "use Time::HiRes qw

Re: using git locally

2019-05-17 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 02:36:36PM +0100, mick crane wrote: > Because I am always making mistakes I thought, if it's not too hard, to see > about using git locally. If that is literally all you want to do, then you don't need to set up a "repository". You have your project, sitting in a directory

Re: Screenshots of Debian software

2019-05-17 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 17 May 2019 07:57:21 am Curt wrote: > On 2019-05-17, Gene Heskett wrote: > >> It's very easy to upload screenshots to screenshots.debian.net. > >> Possibly less work than organising them in a git repository. I just > >> did one to test and it took seconds > >> (http://screenshots.debian

using git locally

2019-05-17 Thread mick crane
hello, Because I am always making mistakes I thought, if it's not too hard, to see about using git locally. I made a git repository for project following destructions https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-use-git-effectively but I'm having bother accessing it remotely. I can ss

Re: Salsa vs Github

2019-05-17 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2019 17 May 04:53 -0500, john doe wrote: > I could be missing something here but why not simply 'mirroring' the > github repo to salsa? That is possible but, as far as I know, it is a manual process. I do the same with a project hosted on both SourceForge and GitHub. For any updates I man

Re: Screenshots of Debian software

2019-05-17 Thread Curt
On 2019-05-17, Gene Heskett wrote: >> >> It's very easy to upload screenshots to screenshots.debian.net. >> Possibly less work than organising them in a git repository. I just >> did one to test and it took seconds >> (http://screenshots.debian.net/package/crispy-doom) > > Nice idea, but "no scree

Readme sanity check

2019-05-17 Thread Paul Sutton
Hi I have tried to put some instructions as to how to use the levels for rocksndiamonds stored at. https://salsa.debian.org/zleap-guest/rocksndiamondslevels README.md Hopefully I have explained this in such a way that it allows people to create their own levels, but also test the levels that I

Re: Screenshots of Debian software

2019-05-17 Thread Curt
On 2019-05-17, Gene Heskett wrote: >> >> It's very easy to upload screenshots to screenshots.debian.net. >> Possibly less work than organising them in a git repository. I just >> did one to test and it took seconds >> (http://screenshots.debian.net/package/crispy-doom) > > Nice idea, but "no scree

Re: buildd and buildbot

2019-05-17 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 17 May 2019 04:29:04 am to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 03:30:45AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Greetings folks; > > > > Thinking of building a local copy of a project with a cross compiler > > to make rpi (armhf) stuffs on this amd64 box, I installed buildd and > > b

Re: Screenshots of Debian software

2019-05-17 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 17 May 2019 05:36:32 am Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Thu, May 16, 2019 at 03:40:20PM +0100, Paul Sutton wrote: > >Looking at https://screenshots.debian.net/  the Debian project seems > > to want some screen shots of different applications etc. > > > >I have taken some screenshots for var

Re: Screenshots of Debian software

2019-05-17 Thread Paul Sutton
On 17/05/2019 10:36, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Thu, May 16, 2019 at 03:40:20PM +0100, Paul Sutton wrote: >> Looking at https://screenshots.debian.net/  the Debian project seems to >> want some screen shots of different applications etc. >> >> I have taken some screenshots for various purposes

Re: Salsa vs Github

2019-05-17 Thread john doe
On 5/17/2019 11:47 AM, Paul Sutton wrote: > > > On 17/05/2019 10:23, Jonathan Dowland wrote: >> On Thu, May 16, 2019 at 04:51:22PM +0100, Paul Sutton wrote: >>> is it possible to >>> 1. Fork a project between github -> salsa or between salsa -> github ? >> >> No. But, you can create a corresponding

Re: Salsa vs Github

2019-05-17 Thread Paul Sutton
On 17/05/2019 10:23, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Thu, May 16, 2019 at 04:51:22PM +0100, Paul Sutton wrote: >> is it possible to >> 1. Fork a project between github -> salsa or between salsa -> github ? > > No. But, you can create a corresponding project in one based on the same > git repositor

Re: Screenshots of Debian software

2019-05-17 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Thu, May 16, 2019 at 03:40:20PM +0100, Paul Sutton wrote: Looking at https://screenshots.debian.net/  the Debian project seems to want some screen shots of different applications etc. I have taken some screenshots for various purposes and since seeing this have started to rename, organize  an

Re: Salsa vs Github

2019-05-17 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Thu, May 16, 2019 at 04:51:22PM +0100, Paul Sutton wrote: is it possible to 1. Fork a project between github -> salsa or between salsa -> github ? No. But, you can create a corresponding project in one based on the same git repository. I.e., you clone the git repository from one project, cre

Re: Install backport during netinstall installation process

2019-05-17 Thread Curt
On 2019-05-17, Rory Campbell-Lange wrote: > On 16/05/19, Curt (cu...@free.fr) wrote: >> On 2019-05-16, Rory Campbell-Lange wrote: >> > >> > Consequently I'd be grateful to know if: >> > >> > * it is possible to somehow install the backport kernel and dependencies >> > during the netinstall proc

Re: please do *never* use GitHub for free software, was Re: Salsa vs Github

2019-05-17 Thread Paul Sutton
On 17/05/2019 09:39, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 09:28:51AM +0200, Dominik George wrote: please do*never* use GitHub for free software > > [links] > > Thanks for the links. Up to now, I avoided Github mainly because > I'm always wary of those "open core", which pay

Re: please do *never* use GitHub for free software, was Re: Salsa vs Github

2019-05-17 Thread tomas
On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 09:28:51AM +0200, Dominik George wrote: > >> please do*never* use GitHub for free software [links] Thanks for the links. Up to now, I avoided Github mainly because I'm always wary of those "open core", which pay lip service to "Open Source" (and make heavy use of free sof

Re: please do *never* use GitHub for free software, was Re: Salsa vs Github

2019-05-17 Thread Mark Allums
On 5/17/19 2:28 AM, Dominik George wrote: please do*never* use GitHub for free software Please explain, in detail, why. If discrimination against parts of the community is not enough for you, here's why: https://mako.cc/writing/hill-free_tools.html https://www.adamhyde.net/another-good-re

Re: buildd and buildbot

2019-05-17 Thread tomas
On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 03:30:45AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > Greetings folks; > > Thinking of building a local copy of a project with a cross compiler to > make rpi (armhf) stuffs on this amd64 box, I installed buildd and > buildbot and some usefull looking friends yesterday, and in about 2

Re: please do *never* use GitHub for free software, was Re: Salsa vs Github

2019-05-17 Thread Dominik George
>> please do*never* use GitHub for free software > >Please explain, in detail, why. If discrimination against parts of the community is not enough for you, here's why: https://mako.cc/writing/hill-free_tools.html https://www.adamhyde.net/another-good-reason-not-to-use-github/ https://www.mirb

buildd and buildbot

2019-05-17 Thread Gene Heskett
Greetings folks; Thinking of building a local copy of a project with a cross compiler to make rpi (armhf) stuffs on this amd64 box, I installed buildd and buildbot and some usefull looking friends yesterday, and in about 2 hours lost the usb services totally, twice having to reboot with the re

Re: Age Ranges for contributors was: Salsa vs Github

2019-05-17 Thread Paul Sutton
On 16/05/2019 20:58, Nate Bargmann wrote: > A bit of searching shows that some international legislation seems to be > responsible for the age restrictions. > > This project cites the GDPR: > > https://github.com/hypothesis/product-backlog/issues/561 > > GitHub's ToS says an account holder mu

Re: Install backport during netinstall installation process

2019-05-17 Thread Rory Campbell-Lange
On 16/05/19, Curt (cu...@free.fr) wrote: > On 2019-05-16, Rory Campbell-Lange wrote: > > > > Consequently I'd be grateful to know if: > > > > * it is possible to somehow install the backport kernel and dependencies > > during the netinstall process > > (apt-get install doesn't seem available

please do *never* use GitHub for free software, was Re: Salsa vs Github

2019-05-17 Thread Mark Allums
On 5/16/19 11:34 AM, Dominik George wrote: please do*never* use GitHub for free software Please explain, in detail, why. Mark