Re: Is it possible to install Debian in such a case.

2019-05-10 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 10/05/2019 à 16:24, An Liu a écrit : The initrd.gz included in Debian installer ISO images cannot read files from an ISO image, only from a plain drive or partition. This is why you need an initrd.gz for hd-media. Note that there may also be restrictions about the supported filesystem types

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2019-05-10 Thread Esteban L
Hello, I have this weird situation, I can't figure out. I can launch the Remote Desktop Viewer from the command line: %vinagre and it launches and is fully functional. When I try to launch it from the "desktop icons" or the icons that are present within gnome, i cannot.  A little bar appear o

Re: Does anyone know where chkconfig went?

2019-05-10 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 10 May 2019 06:01:51 pm Brian wrote: > On Fri 10 May 2019 at 17:32:05 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Friday 10 May 2019 11:41:25 am Brian wrote: > > > On Fri 10 May 2019 at 11:28:41 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > Greetings all; > > > > > > > > This was an rcx.d thing that adjusted

Re: dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration (Swedish with "|")

2019-05-10 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Erik Josefsson (2019-05-11 00:51:38) > My original problem was that I could not figure out how to get both > Swedish and pipe "|" at all (which Jonas duly noted by removing "¦" > from the original subject line). I edited the subject line in my posts unrelated to the content of the threa

Tinker team (Was: Is it possible to install Debian in such a case.)

2019-05-10 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting to...@tuxteam.de (2019-05-10 12:01:33) > On Fri, May 10, 2019 at 11:45:06AM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > [...] > > > It sounds like perhaps you would be interested in joining the Tinker > > team: https://wiki.debian.org/DebianTinker > > Sorry to irrupt from the side, but... why di

Re: dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration (Swedish with "|")

2019-05-10 Thread Erik Josefsson
Den 2019-05-10 kl. 18:21, skrev David Wright: On Fri 10 May 2019 at 15:45:34 (+0200), Erik Josefsson wrote: https://www.iso.org/standard/57852.html If it was compliant, then I guess that would make an informed choice of "Keyboard model" easier than it is now. The only rule I know is that

Re: Does anyone know where chkconfig went?

2019-05-10 Thread Brian
On Fri 10 May 2019 at 17:32:05 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Friday 10 May 2019 11:41:25 am Brian wrote: > > > On Fri 10 May 2019 at 11:28:41 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > Greetings all; > > > > > > This was an rcx.d thing that adjusted what ran in what run-level. > > > > > > I need to shut

Re: Does anyone know where chkconfig went?

2019-05-10 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 10 May 2019 11:41:25 am Brian wrote: > On Fri 10 May 2019 at 11:28:41 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Greetings all; > > > > This was an rcx.d thing that adjusted what ran in what run-level. > > > > I need to shut off all the nut stuff. Because this rt kernal didn't > > bring usbhid-ups t

Re: Does anyone know where chkconfig went?

2019-05-10 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 10 May 2019 11:41:00 am An Liu wrote: > Hi, Gene, > > Maybe systemd is what you are after > https://wiki.debian.org/systemd > > > Hope it help. It might be a usefull tut if I can wade through the politics. Thank you. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defens

Re: Is it possible to install Debian in such a case.

2019-05-10 Thread Felix Miata
David Wright composed on 2019-05-10 13:32 (UTC-0500): > On Fri 10 May 2019 at 12:06:05 (-0400), Felix Miata wrote: >> what I virtually always do, install from network, beginning with fetching >>

Re: Usefulness of adding APT::Default-Release

2019-05-10 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2019-05-10 13:45 -0500, David Wright wrote: > On Fri 10 May 2019 at 20:14:20 (+0200), Sven Joachim wrote: >> On 2019-05-08 13:14 -0500, David Wright wrote: >> >> > I'm trying to ascertain what APT::Default-Release can do for me, >> > and what it constrains. In the output that follows, why does

Re: Usefulness of adding APT::Default-Release

2019-05-10 Thread David Wright
On Fri 10 May 2019 at 20:14:20 (+0200), Sven Joachim wrote: > On 2019-05-08 13:14 -0500, David Wright wrote: > > > I'm trying to ascertain what APT::Default-Release can do for me, > > and what it constrains. In the output that follows, why does > > APT::Default-Release prevent firefox from being u

Re: Is it possible to install Debian in such a case.

2019-05-10 Thread David Wright
On Fri 10 May 2019 at 12:06:05 (-0400), Felix Miata wrote: > Brian composed on 2019-05-10 16:32 (UTC+0100): > > > On Fri 10 May 2019 at 08:49:25 -0500, David Wright wrote: > > >> What worries me about this thread is that the OP (who doesn't seem to > >> know how the various parts of the d-i are m

Re: Is it possible to install Debian in such a case.

2019-05-10 Thread David Wright
On Fri 10 May 2019 at 16:28:09 (+0100), Brian wrote: > On Fri 10 May 2019 at 11:04:47 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > On Fri, May 10, 2019 at 08:57:20AM -0600, An Liu wrote: > > > As all knows, redhat 8 was announced available serveral days ago, and > > > i got the DVD iso, and i want to have a

Re: Usefulness of adding APT::Default-Release

2019-05-10 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2019-05-08 13:14 -0500, David Wright wrote: > I'm trying to ascertain what APT::Default-Release can do for me, > and what it constrains. In the output that follows, why does > APT::Default-Release prevent firefox from being upgraded? Because stretch-updates ≢ stretch, see bug #173215[1] (with

Re: Is it possible to install Debian in such a case.

2019-05-10 Thread Brian
On Fri 10 May 2019 at 09:55:06 -0600, An Liu wrote: > appreciate your opinion, more than technical point of view :) -- Brian.

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Re: dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration (Swedish with "|")

2019-05-10 Thread David Wright
On Fri 10 May 2019 at 15:45:34 (+0200), Erik Josefsson wrote: > Thanks for helping me sort out my thoughts! OK, but I don't claim any expertise here. > Den 2019-05-06 kl. 22:42, skrev David Wright: > > [Disclaimer: I'm not familiar with the Teres keyboard beyond looking at > > https://www.olimex.

Re: Is it possible to install Debian in such a case.

2019-05-10 Thread Felix Miata
Brian composed on 2019-05-10 16:32 (UTC+0100): > On Fri 10 May 2019 at 08:49:25 -0500, David Wright wrote: >> What worries me about this thread is that the OP (who doesn't seem to >> know how the various parts of the d-i are meant to work together) has >> just last week posted a recipe claiming t

Re: Archiving content of a directory on a DVD-R.

2019-05-10 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, pe...@easthope.ca wrote: > xorriso : UPDATE : Writing: 115440s 29.7% fifo 100% buf 100% 6.0xD > libburn : FATAL : SCSI error on write(117872,16): [5 21 02] Illegal request. > Invalid address for write. That's new to me. I wonder how this could happen. A DVD-R has to be written stric

Re: Is it possible to install Debian in such a case.

2019-05-10 Thread An Liu
appreciate your opinion, more than technical point of view -- Liu An

Re: Does anyone know where chkconfig went?

2019-05-10 Thread Brian
On Fri 10 May 2019 at 11:28:41 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > Greetings all; > > This was an rcx.d thing that adjusted what ran in what run-level. > > I need to shut off all the nut stuff. Because this rt kernal didn't bring > usbhid-ups to the party, needed to talk to my ups, my logs are being

Re: Does anyone know where chkconfig went?

2019-05-10 Thread An Liu
Hi, Gene, Maybe systemd is what you are after https://wiki.debian.org/systemd Hope it help. On Fri, May 10, 2019 at 9:29 AM Gene Heskett wrote: > > Greetings all; > > This was an rcx.d thing that adjusted what ran in what run-level. > > I need to shut off all the nut stuff. Because this rt ker

Re: config question re ff history etc

2019-05-10 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 10 May 2019 03:45:49 am Curt wrote: > On 2019-05-09, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Thursday 09 May 2019 12:51:24 pm Curt wrote: > >> On 2019-05-09, Gene Heskett wrote: > >> > Greetings all; > >> > > >> > I have a need to transfer all the prefs -"saved logins" from a > >> > wheezy install

Re: Is it possible to install Debian in such a case.

2019-05-10 Thread An Liu
HI, Brian, > I am not sure An Liu is asking for help with installing Red Hat. No, because all problem settled. Cheers. Actually there is a 'LIVE OS' hidden in RHEL's DVD, then followed by switch-root within a dracut image, which differs from Debian's installation. I'll look into it if i can go

Re: Is it possible to install Debian in such a case.

2019-05-10 Thread Richard Owlett
On 05/10/2019 10:04 AM, An Liu wrote: Multi-Boot allows Linux and *any other* OS to reside on the same medium. sure, and what's next? i have 5 OS on my PC, The order of installation is not quite the problem, as i USE UEFI I said i was just talking about install media, not install target. Thoug

Re: Is it possible to install Debian in such a case.

2019-05-10 Thread Brian
On Fri 10 May 2019 at 11:04:47 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Fri, May 10, 2019 at 08:57:20AM -0600, An Liu wrote: > > As all knows, redhat 8 was announced available serveral days ago, and > > i got the DVD iso, and i want to have a try > > > We have a solution for debian, as mentioned, use hd

Re: Is it possible to install Debian in such a case.

2019-05-10 Thread Brian
On Fri 10 May 2019 at 08:49:25 -0500, David Wright wrote: > On Fri 10 May 2019 at 13:44:03 (+0200), to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > On Fri, May 10, 2019 at 06:31:22AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > > > > [...] > > > That's one of a number of possible guesses of OP's intent. > > > > Yep :-) > > > >

Does anyone know where chkconfig went?

2019-05-10 Thread Gene Heskett
Greetings all; This was an rcx.d thing that adjusted what ran in what run-level. I need to shut off all the nut stuff. Because this rt kernal didn't bring usbhid-ups to the party, needed to talk to my ups, my logs are being spammed by non-connection msgs. Several a minute. Maybe its been rename

Re: Is it possible to install Debian in such a case.

2019-05-10 Thread An Liu
> This makes no sense. If you want to learn how to install Red Hat, you > should ask a Red Hat mailing list, not a Debian mailing list. > > We don't know how to install Red Hat. Yes, That's why I don't ask how to do here but to figure it out, as talking that is something of topic I just wonder i

Re: Is it possible to install Debian in such a case.

2019-05-10 Thread An Liu
> Multi-Boot allows Linux and *any other* OS to reside on the same medium. sure, and what's next? i have 5 OS on my PC, The order of installation is not quite the problem, as i USE UEFI I said i was just talking about install media, not install target. Though I have a HD could work as install-med

Re: Is it possible to install Debian in such a case.

2019-05-10 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, May 10, 2019 at 08:57:20AM -0600, An Liu wrote: > As all knows, redhat 8 was announced available serveral days ago, and > i got the DVD iso, and i want to have a try > We have a solution for debian, as mentioned, use hd-media (vmlinuz, > initrd.gz with iso-scan) in step 2 , so it's not

Re: Is it possible to install Debian in such a case.

2019-05-10 Thread An Liu
Hi, All, I'm very happy to see many people try to help, and want to describe why i have such kind of questions As all knows, redhat 8 was announced available serveral days ago, and i got the DVD iso, and i want to have a try (for myself i use debian on my pc, but enterprise customs use RHEL/Cent

Re: Archiving content of a directory on a DVD-R.

2019-05-10 Thread peter
From: "Thomas Schmitt" Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2019 17:28:39 +0100 > xorriso -for_backup -dev /dev/sr0 \ > -update_r . / \ > -commit \ > -toc -check_md5 failure -- \ > -eject all > > Now you can write to the DVD-R until it is full. Each run will prod

Re: Is it possible to install Debian in such a case.

2019-05-10 Thread Richard Owlett
On 05/10/2019 09:34 AM, An Liu wrote: Hi, Richard Thank you for you information, https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch03s05.html.en Chapter title: Before Installing Debian GNU/Linux Section Title: Pre-Partitioning for Multi-Boot Systems Still doesn't get you point. Multi-Boot al

Re: Is it possible to install Debian in such a case.

2019-05-10 Thread An Liu
Hi, Richard Thank you for you information, > https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch03s05.html.en > > Chapter title: Before Installing Debian GNU/Linux > Section Title: Pre-Partitioning for Multi-Boot Systems Still doesn't get you point. What i mentioned is the USB stick which would turn

Re: Is it possible to install Debian in such a case.

2019-05-10 Thread An Liu
Hi, Pascal, > Downloading vmlinuz is not required. You can get it from the ISO image. yes. > > I wonder if there is a way to finish install only in GRUB, without > > initrd involved maybe more precisely, without initrd.gz from hd-media involved, but could use initrd.gz from the ISO file we have

Re: Is it possible to install Debian in such a case.

2019-05-10 Thread Richard Owlett
On 05/10/2019 09:10 AM, An Liu wrote: What worries me about this thread is that the OP (who doesn't seem to know how the various parts of the d-i are meant to work together) has I don't know what's d-i mean (short for ?) just last week posted a recipe claiming to install Debian using only vml

Re: Help tracking down a random beep

2019-05-10 Thread rhkramer
Just to provide an update -- the current status is that the beep is not occurring atm, but it has been just a little cooler. If I get a chance, I'll take that machine down and clean out any dust and such, or, if the beeping resumes I'll try some of the ideas suggested here. As an aside, the ma

Re: Is it possible to install Debian in such a case.

2019-05-10 Thread An Liu
Hi, Greg, It really helps, thank you On Fri, May 10, 2019 at 6:13 AM Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Fri, May 10, 2019 at 03:52:34AM -0600, An Liu wrote: > > 1. Could I install debian from chroot enviroment while i'm in another > > linux dist > > (such as CentOS, SUSE, RHEL ...), or vice versa. > >

Re: Is it possible to install Debian in such a case.

2019-05-10 Thread An Liu
> What worries me about this thread is that the OP (who doesn't seem to > know how the various parts of the d-i are meant to work together) has I don't know what's d-i mean (short for ?) > just last week posted a recipe claiming to install Debian using only > vmlinuz and initrd¹, no, you need iso

Re: Is it possible to install Debian in such a case.

2019-05-10 Thread David Wright
On Fri 10 May 2019 at 13:44:03 (+0200), to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Fri, May 10, 2019 at 06:31:22AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > > [...] > > That's one of a number of possible guesses of OP's intent. > > Yep :-) > > > I've asked questions others have thought vague though I thought were > > qu

Re: dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration (Swedish with "|")

2019-05-10 Thread Erik Josefsson
Hi David! Thanks for helping me sort out my thoughts! Den 2019-05-06 kl. 22:42, skrev David Wright: On Sun 05 May 2019 at 20:52:40 (+0200), Erik Josefsson wrote: Den 2019-05-05 kl. 16:26, skrev David Wright: Is this some sort of ticking off for wondering why the OP is*so* keen to be able to t

Re: Is it possible to install Debian in such a case.

2019-05-10 Thread Curt
On 2019-05-10, An Liu wrote: > > Actually the question could extend in several ways, such as > > 1. Could I install debian from chroot enviroment while i'm in another > linux dist Once I ran the netinstall iso with qemu/kvm and installed onto a usb thumb drive I'd taken care to preliminarily inse

Re: Is it possible to install Debian in such a case.

2019-05-10 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 10/05/2019 à 10:48, An Liu a écrit : What I Have. a USB stick with 1. a portable GRUB (either UEFI or legacy) 2. a install ISO, such as debian-9.9.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso (mayb would e a LiveCD make life easier?) What we want.Have Debian installed (could assume that we could do whatever we could

Re: Is it possible to install Debian in such a case.

2019-05-10 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, May 10, 2019 at 03:52:34AM -0600, An Liu wrote: > 1. Could I install debian from chroot enviroment while i'm in another > linux dist > (such as CentOS, SUSE, RHEL ...), or vice versa. https://www.debian.org/releases/stretch/amd64/apds03.html.en

Re: Is it possible to install Debian in such a case.

2019-05-10 Thread tomas
On Fri, May 10, 2019 at 06:31:22AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: [...] > That's one of a number of possible guesses of OP's intent. Yep :-) > I've asked questions others have thought vague though I thought were > quite explicit. People read through lenses of their personal > experience and assump

Re: Is it possible to install Debian in such a case.

2019-05-10 Thread Richard Owlett
On 05/10/2019 05:52 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Fri, May 10, 2019 at 05:29:48AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: On 05/10/2019 03:48 AM, An Liu wrote: Hi, List Image the following case What I Have. a USB stick with [...] Missing background? Unstated goals? I've got the feeling that I don

Re: Is it possible to install Debian in such a case.

2019-05-10 Thread tomas
On Fri, May 10, 2019 at 05:29:48AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 05/10/2019 03:48 AM, An Liu wrote: > >Hi, List > > > >Image the following case > > > >What I Have. > >a USB stick with [...] > Missing background? Unstated goals? I've got the feeling that I don't understand your question compl

Re: Is it possible to install Debian in such a case.

2019-05-10 Thread Richard Owlett
On 05/10/2019 03:48 AM, An Liu wrote: Hi, List Image the following case What I Have. a USB stick with 1. a portable GRUB (either UEFI or legacy) 2. a install ISO, such as debian-9.9.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso (mayb would e a LiveCD make life easier?) What we want.Have Debian installed (could assume t

Re: Is it possible to install Debian in such a case.

2019-05-10 Thread An Liu
Hi, Jonas > Ah, ok. Then you probably want to play with debootstrap (or one of the > many wrapper tools around that, or alternatives to it like multistrap or > mmdebstrap), add compare the result of that with a debian-installer > installation to understand what you are missing (e.g. a boot loader

Re: Is it possible to install Debian in such a case.

2019-05-10 Thread tomas
On Fri, May 10, 2019 at 11:45:06AM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: [...] > It sounds like perhaps you would be interested in joining the Tinker > team: https://wiki.debian.org/DebianTinker Sorry to irrupt from the side, but... why didn't I know of that? Thanks for the link, and for keeping up th

Re: Is it possible to install Debian in such a case.

2019-05-10 Thread An Liu
Hi, Joe Thank you > The current (and presumably all future) stable installation images will > install either in legacy mode or UEFI. Just transfer the image to the > stick (the whole stick, not a partition of it) and it should Just Work. 'Should just Work' is not what i care in this question, so f

Re: Is it possible to install Debian in such a case.

2019-05-10 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting An Liu (2019-05-10 11:09:25) > > Sorry, I don't understand: what do you want different from running > > debian-installer? > > > > In short,just for fun > > longer answer, > > 1. want to know what a installation process (e.g. bootable iso) actually do > for us 。 > 2.Find some clues if the

Re: Is it possible to install Debian in such a case.

2019-05-10 Thread An Liu
Hi Brain > Adapt > > https://wiki.debian.org/Installation+Archive+USBStick?highlight=%28shared%2Fask_device%3Dmanual%29 > > to your needs? Yes, the section 'Using GRUB's Loopback Facility' should have something I'm after. Thank you -- Liu An

Re: Is it possible to install Debian in such a case.

2019-05-10 Thread Joe
On Fri, 10 May 2019 11:09:25 +0200 An Liu wrote: > > Sorry, I don't understand: what do you want different from running > > debian-installer? > > > > In short,just for fun > > longer answer, > > 1. want to know what a installation process (e.g. bootable iso) > actually do for us 。 > 2.Find s

Re: Is it possible to install Debian in such a case.

2019-05-10 Thread Brian
On Fri 10 May 2019 at 11:09:25 +0200, An Liu wrote: > > Sorry, I don't understand: what do you want different from running > > debian-installer? > > > > In short,just for fun > > longer answer, > > 1. want to know what a installation process (e.g. bootable iso) actually do > for us 。 > 2.Find s

Re: Is it possible to install Debian in such a case.

2019-05-10 Thread An Liu
> Sorry, I don't understand: what do you want different from running > debian-installer? > In short,just for fun longer answer, 1. want to know what a installation process (e.g. bootable iso) actually do for us 。 2.Find some clues if the automation setup fails,what we could do next > > -

Re: Is it possible to install Debian in such a case.

2019-05-10 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting An Liu (2019-05-10 10:48:46) > Hi, List > > Image the following case > > What I Have. > a USB stick with > 1. a portable GRUB (either UEFI or legacy) > 2. a install ISO, such as debian-9.9.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso (mayb would e > a LiveCD make life easier?) > > What we want.Have Debian instal

Re: Speed Problem Copying Files

2019-05-10 Thread Lothar Schilling
Am 10.05.2019 um 07:48 schrieb David Christensen: > On 5/9/19 1:49 AM, Lothar Schilling wrote: >> Hi everybody, >> >> for years I have used CentOS for our server landscape. Now I decided to >> give Debian a try. I just set up a Stretch 9.8 system supposed to become >> our main backup server. So I s

Is it possible to install Debian in such a case.

2019-05-10 Thread An Liu
Hi, List Image the following case What I Have. a USB stick with 1. a portable GRUB (either UEFI or legacy) 2. a install ISO, such as debian-9.9.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso (mayb would e a LiveCD make life easier?) What we want.Have Debian installed (could assume that we could do whatever we could, such

Re: config question re ff history etc

2019-05-10 Thread Curt
On 2019-05-09, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Thursday 09 May 2019 12:51:24 pm Curt wrote: > >> On 2019-05-09, Gene Heskett wrote: >> > Greetings all; >> > >> > I have a need to transfer all the prefs -"saved logins" from a >> > wheezy install to a stretch install, separate drives. And obviously >> >