On Mon, 15 Apr 2019 18:42:57 +0200
Wim wrote:
> Hi Bonno,
>
> On Sunday, 14 April at 08:00, Bonno Bloksma wrote:
>
> >
> > All along I just installed the standard system on a Debian machine. Created
> > an alias for the root user with the email address of our servicedesk to
> > have it send
On 15/4/19 8:59 pm, Brad Rogers wrote:
On Mon, 15 Apr 2019 20:12:34 +1000
Keith Bainbridge wrote:
Hello Keith,
So if I don't install Wayland, I should not loose synaptic - for those
odd times I need it to help me find something?
That /would/ have been the case, yes. Not so now; Synaptic
Patrick
I've never found that setting.
Interesting.
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On 15/4/19 9:51 pm, Patrick Gallagher wrote:
Hi Keith, Liam,
I got it working. It was a simple setting in Virtual box I had to enable
to load other os's.
Thanks for your help with
On Mon, 2019-04-15 at 13:10 -0400, Kieran Smyth wrote:
> Thanks everyone for all the responses. The package gnome-packagekit
> seems like a good alternative for now, but ultimately I think
> reverting to stable rather than testing may be the way forward for me.
>
> Although i'm going to explore ot
On Thu, 11 Apr 2019 20:56:04 -0700
David Christensen wrote:
...
> If I remember encfs correctly, encfs is designed to provide exclusive
> access to the user who mounts an encrypted folder -- no other user,
> including root, can see the plaintext.
My understanding is that while this is technic
On 16.04.2019 2:05, Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 04/15/2019 01:14 PM, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote:
>> On 15.04.2019 18:09, Richard Owlett wrote:
>>> Somehow I had messed up preferred application to open a file.
>>> I fixed by selecting a file of appropriate type, selecting
>>> Properties, and settin
On 04/15/2019 01:14 PM, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote:
On 15.04.2019 18:09, Richard Owlett wrote:
Somehow I had messed up preferred application to open a file.
I fixed by selecting a file of appropriate type, selecting Properties,
and setting preferred application.
That solved almost all my pr
On 2019-04-15 21:00, Cindy Sue Causey wrote:
On 4/15/19, mick crane wrote:
I typed
"apt install mypaint"
mypaint depends on mypaint-data but it's not going to be installed
seen that mypaint-data was there so
"apt install mypaint-data"
...installs OK
"apt install mypaint"
no complaints
what's th
On 4/15/19, mick crane wrote:
> I typed
> "apt install mypaint"
> mypaint depends on mypaint-data but it's not going to be installed
> seen that mypaint-data was there so
> "apt install mypaint-data"
> ...installs OK
> "apt install mypaint"
> no complaints
> what's that all about then ?
Apparent
On Mon, 15 Apr 2019 09:13:37 -0400
Greg Wooledge wrote:
Hello Greg,
>As end users, we don't know how the synaptic situation is going to play
>out. It may be removed permanently, or the bug that caused its removal
Look up the bug report. Sure, it's not possible to say for definite
what will ha
I typed
"apt install mypaint"
mypaint depends on mypaint-data but it's not going to be installed
seen that mypaint-data was there so
"apt install mypaint-data"
...installs OK
"apt install mypaint"
no complaints
what's that all about then ?
mick
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On 15.04.2019 18:09, Richard Owlett wrote:
> Somehow I had messed up preferred application to open a file.
> I fixed by selecting a file of appropriate type, selecting Properties,
> and setting preferred application.
>
> That solved almost all my problems.
>
> The only exception is when using Synap
Jonathan Dowland composed on 2019-04-15 10:28 (UTC-0400):
> On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 05:36:00PM -0400, Felix Miata wrote:
>>LVM's extra layer(s) would render my backup/restore system that depends in
>>large
>>part on cloning useless.
> I don't quite understand this, would you care to elaborate?
On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 11:45:07AM -0500, David Wright wrote:
[...]
> > Watch again systemd: while the default in Debian, it is perfectly
> > possible to install a Debian system without it [...]
> I've always assumed that there are Developers who, like us,
> avoid various types of software, like
Thanks everyone for all the responses. The package gnome-packagekit seems
like a good alternative for now, but ultimately I think reverting to stable
rather than testing may be the way forward for me.
Although i'm going to explore other desktop environments, too. Not sure
i'll be able to move away
Hi Bonno,
On Sunday, 14 April at 08:00, Bonno Bloksma wrote:
>
> All along I just installed the standard system on a Debian machine. Created
> an alias for the root user with the email address of our servicedesk to have
> it send any mails to my servicedesk account and that was it.
> The last
On Mon 15 Apr 2019 at 13:31:04 (+0200), to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 11:15:48AM +0300, Reco wrote:
> > On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 09:56:04AM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > > On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 10:42:19AM +0300, Reco wrote:
> > > > On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 09:14:30AM +0200,
On 15/04/2019 09:27, Reco wrote:
> Hi.
>
> On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 08:38:15AM +0100, Paul Sutton wrote:
>> Does anyone know the version of Wayland being used?
> $ dpkg -s libwayland-server0 | grep Version
> Version: 1.16.0-1
>
>> and what other basic info could be included in a technical ov
On 2019-04-15, Richard Owlett wrote:
>>
>
> Neither
>> $ dot -Tps -o APT::Cache::GivenOnly=1 dependency-graph.dot > owl2.ps
> Nor
>> $ dot -o APT::Cache::GivenOnly=1 dependency-graph.dot
> gave useful output.
>
> I'll do some reading and try on something simpler.
> Thanks
>
>
That doesn'
On Mon, 2019-04-15 at 11:06 +0100, Dominic Knight wrote:
> The good news is that someone has filed a patch that works around these
> issues with Wayland. So it should be back for other GUI users with a
> failure message for Wayland users once it is passed through
> experimental (in time for Buster
Hi.
On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 04:40:56PM +0200, Martin Schwarz wrote:
> The system from my previous example has already been rebooted, sorry!
Kind of expected. It's useful nevertheless.
> But here's from another system that currently starts showing the same
> problem and has an equally sm
On Mon 15 Apr 2019 at 10:13:31 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 04/15/2019 09:15 AM, David Wright wrote:
> > [snip]
> >
> > > Using "dot -Tps dependency-graph.dot > owl.ps" I got a displayable,
> > > if not readable, graph. There was a warning in what I had read about
> > > "dotty" about viewa
On Mon, 2019-04-15 at 14:42 +0500, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote:
> A quick glance at tests [1] makes me not bother with Liquorix yet.
> As you can see, performance is a double edged sword, you gain a little more
> responsiveness, but loose on throughput.
> Of course it should be tested for your wo
On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 05:05:53PM +0200, Markus Schönhaber wrote:
> Tomas, 15.4.2019 16:38 +0200:
>
> > --chroot-mode=schroot|sudo|autopkgtest
> > Select the desired chroot mode. Four values are possible:
> > schroot [...], sudo [...] and autopkgtest [...]
>
> Out of curiosity: am I mi
On 04/15/2019 09:15 AM, David Wright wrote:
[snip]
Using "dot -Tps dependency-graph.dot > owl.ps" I got a displayable,
if not readable, graph. There was a warning in what I had read about
"dotty" about viewablity issues if the graph was too complex. Suspect
that is problem.
Add -o APT::Cac
Tomas, 15.4.2019 16:38 +0200:
> --chroot-mode=schroot|sudo|autopkgtest
> Select the desired chroot mode. Four values are possible:
> schroot [...], sudo [...] and autopkgtest [...]
Out of curiosity: am I missing something or are there only three of the
"Four values" which "are possible"
On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 10:44:26AM -0400, Kenneth Parker wrote:
> I had a Symptom like this a few years ago, which was tracked to something
> called "zram", which tries to use "excess RAM" as Swap Space.
thanks for your input!
We do not use zram. (I assume that would also show up in `lsmod`?)
/p
I had a Symptom like this a few years ago, which was tracked to something
called "zram", which tries to use "excess RAM" as Swap Space.
If so, it would show up on /proc/swaps
Verify that.
Best regards,
Kenneth Parker
On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 04:35:27PM +0300, Reco wrote:
> Can you please provide unsorted outputs of /proc/meminfo? It's easier to
> compare them if they are unsorted.
> And "smem -tm | tail" would be helpful too.
Thanks for your input!
The system from my previous example has already been rebooted,
On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 9:50 AM Tom Browder wrote:
>
> I have used ext4 for many years while I have been watching zfs and
...
Thanks to all who have given me advice on selecting the file system
for a new laptop. After considering all suggestions and my use of the
laptop, I have decided to use the
On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 03:26:04PM +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 02:30:33PM +0300, Alexei Fedotov wrote:
> >it seems schroot package is somehow missed in my repository, I will
> >look into it.
>
> schroot is merely recommended by sbuild, and not depended upon by it:
> pr
On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 09:50:23AM -0500, Tom Browder wrote:
I have used ext4 for many years while I have been watching zfs and
btrfs being developed. I am now considering using one or both on at
least one partion during my upcoming new Debian installation.
What in particular do you find attrac
On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 05:36:00PM -0400, Felix Miata wrote:
LVM's extra layer(s) would render my backup/restore system that depends in large
part on cloning useless.
I don't quite understand this, would you care to elaborate? Thanks!
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On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 02:30:33PM +0300, Alexei Fedotov wrote:
it seems schroot package is somehow missed in my repository, I will
look into it.
schroot is merely recommended by sbuild, and not depended upon by it:
presumably sbuild can be used in some other way without schroot. When
you insta
On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 11:15:48AM +0300, Reco wrote:
Debian project, like the most distributions, ships GNOME as a
primary/default Desktop Envirionment. Therefore one can expect that this
GNOME's "feature"-to-be will be included in Debian sooner or later, and
once done the "feature" can affect o
On Mon 15 Apr 2019 at 08:50:12 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 04/15/2019 03:39 AM, Peter Wiersig wrote:
> > Richard Owlett writes:
> > > Long term goal: *personal* definition of a minimalist Debian
> > >
> > > current goal: grok how packages interact
> >
> > http://www.macfreek.nl/memory/De
On Monday 15 April 2019 09:28:12 Cindy Sue Causey wrote:
> On 4/15/19, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > Debootstrap is a harsh mistress (yeah, stolen from somewhere). But
> > you might end up liking it once you get the hang of it...
>
Somewhat off topic, but your reading material in your formative yea
On 04/15/2019 03:39 AM, Peter Wiersig wrote:
Richard Owlett writes:
Long term goal: *personal* definition of a minimalist Debian
current goal: grok how packages interact
http://www.macfreek.nl/memory/Dependency_Graph_Debian_Packages
TLDR:
$ apt-cache dotty mate-desktop > dependency-graph.dot
Hi.
On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 02:21:16PM +0200, Martin Schwarz wrote:
> I need help debugging/solving a weird memory problem. The symptoms are
> the usual ones for high memory usage: free/available memory is getting
> low, systems start swapping, disk I/O increases, performance drops.
Can y
On 4/15/19, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
>
> Debootstrap is a harsh mistress (yeah, stolen from somewhere). But
> you might end up liking it once you get the hang of it...
Don't know if I ever heard that, at least not that I can remember that
topic specifically. I just know that debootstrap always *W
On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 08:18:20AM +0100, Paul Sutton wrote:
> I get info on what is in buster from this page
>
> https://wiki.debian.org/NewInBuster
>
> Would it be worth updating this page so others know to use
> gnome-packagekit instead, even if this information is elsewhere.
As end users, we
Somehow I had messed up preferred application to open a file.
I fixed by selecting a file of appropriate type, selecting Properties,
and setting preferred application.
That solved almost all my problems.
The only exception is when using Synaptic.
When I click on "Visit Homepage" it insists on
Hello,
(please let me know if this is more appropriate somewhere else, e.g. on
ebian-kernel)
I need help debugging/solving a weird memory problem. The symptoms are
the usual ones for high memory usage: free/available memory is getting
low, systems start swapping, disk I/O increases, performance d
On 2019-04-15, Paul Sutton wrote:
>
> Following the topic here on Synaptic in Buster being replaced with
> gnome-packagekit
Synaptic is not being replaced. That notion is completely erroneous
AFAIK. It has now been patched (package in unstable) so that it
provides "visual feedback while starting
On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 02:52:37PM +0300, Reco wrote:
[...]
> I'm not a part of Debian project, I'm just a user.
Then you are part, somehow. The one thing I appreciate about the
Debian project is precisely that it doesn't treat their users as
a merchandise (something less and less common these d
Hi.
On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 01:31:04PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > > > A short-term solution at best, although I'll avoid Wayland in buster.
> > >
> > > Why do you think it is a short term solution?
> >
> > Because GNOME. GNOME's upstream said their word loud and clear, and that
>
Hi Keith, Liam,
I got it working. It was a simple setting in Virtual box I had to enable to
load other os's.
Thanks for your help with it
Patrick
I've installed schroot from http://deb.debian.org/debian and it
worked. Thanks again for your help.
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On 13.04.2019 23:21, Tyler A wrote:
> I found a temporary solution that at least lets me visit the sites in Firefox.
>
> However this doesn't fix OpenSSL (thus things like curl, wget).
>
> #!/usr/bin/env bash
>
> sudo apt-get install libnss3-tools
>
> downloadCerts=(http://cacerts.thawte.com/Thawte
Georgi, thanks!
it seems schroot package is somehow missed in my repository, I will
look into it.
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On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 11:15:48AM +0300, Reco wrote:
> Hi.
>
> On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 09:56:04AM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 10:42:19AM +0300, Reco wrote:
> > >
> > > On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 09:14:30AM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
[...]
> > This was admi
On 13.04.2019 21:20, Tyler A wrote:
> On 13/4/19 3:57 pm, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote:
>> On 13.04.2019 19:40, Tyler A wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I had trouble visiting these two websites in Firefox, Epiphany and
>>> verifying with OpenSSL.
>>>
>>> - Births Deaths and Marriages (Government of South Au
On 4/15/19 2:02 PM, Alexei Fedotov wrote:
> Hello,
> I've installed sbuild ver 0.73.0-4 and tried creating chroot environment
>
> I used the following command and get an error.
>
> devops@devops:~/git/docker.io$ sudo sbuild-createchroot
> --include=eatmydata,ccache,gnupg unstable
> /srv/chroot/un
Hello,
I've installed sbuild ver 0.73.0-4 and tried creating chroot environment
I used the following command and get an error.
devops@devops:~/git/docker.io$ sudo sbuild-createchroot
--include=eatmydata,ccache,gnupg unstable
/srv/chroot/unstable-amd64-sbuild http://deb.debian.org/debian
open3: ex
On Mon, 15 Apr 2019 20:12:34 +1000
Keith Bainbridge wrote:
Hello Keith,
>So if I don't install Wayland, I should not loose synaptic - for those
>odd times I need it to help me find something?
That /would/ have been the case, yes. Not so now; Synaptic is no longer
available in testing. You ca
On 13/4/19 2:55 pm, Liam O'Toole wrote:
On 2019-04-10, Patrick Gallagher wrote:
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Hi Suppot,
This is not support. This is a mailing list for users of debian, just like you.
I installed Debian 9.8.0 on my laptop using an
On 04/15/2019 02:12 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
On Sun, Apr 14, 2019 at 08:38:48AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
[...]
In past conversations it has been suggested that I do a typical
install and just un-install the un-desired elements:
Start with what debootstrap [1] gives you and work up fro
On 2019-04-15 12:53:03 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> If you want to replace the system default X11 session, do this
> with a .xinitrc script. By default, it is /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc,
> which does: . /etc/X11/Xsession
Actually startx (via xinit) honors .xinitrc, but not the graphical
login manag
On 2019-04-11 08:19:13 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 01:28:18AM -0400, Lee wrote:
> > so another package I need to install..
> >
> > .. which breaks the login process for me :(
> >
> > $ echo xinput > ~/.xsession
>
> If you use a .xsession file, you have to go all in. Yo
On 15/4/19 6:12 pm, Brad Rogers wrote:
On Mon, 15 Apr 2019 17:32:47 +1000
Keith Bainbridge wrote:
Hello Keith,
I'm more intrigued that synaptic reportedly removed itself.
How is this possible, or did some other package force its removal?
Removal occurred because of otherwise unresolvable
On Mon, 2019-04-15 at 01:24 -0400, Kieran Smyth wrote:
> Hi,
>
> For reasons unknown to me, synaptic uninstalled itself about three
> weeks ago. I am using Buster on the desktop, with MATE as my desktop
> environment.
>
> When i open up a terminal and try to re-install it, i get the
> following-
>
On 15.04.2019 5:37, Francisco M Neto wrote:
> Greetings!
>
> I have just now heard about this custom kernel directed to
> performance and I was wondering - anyone here has any experience with
> that?
> I'd rather just download their .config and compile the kernel
> from a deb src packag
Richard Owlett writes:
> Long term goal: *personal* definition of a minimalist Debian
>
> current goal: grok how packages interact
http://www.macfreek.nl/memory/Dependency_Graph_Debian_Packages
TLDR:
$ apt-cache dotty mate-desktop > dependency-graph.dot
$ dot -Tpng dependency-graph.dot
That eit
> On Apr 14, 2019, at 11:03 PM, Reco wrote:
>
> On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 01:24:32AM -0400, Kieran Smyth wrote:
>> For reasons unknown to me, synaptic uninstalled itself about three weeks
>> ago. I am using Buster on the desktop, with MATE as my desktop environment.
>
> Synaptic was removed fro
Hi.
On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 08:38:15AM +0100, Paul Sutton wrote:
> Does anyone know the version of Wayland being used?
$ dpkg -s libwayland-server0 | grep Version
Version: 1.16.0-1
> and what other basic info could be included in a technical overview without
> overwhelming the viewer ?
On 15/04/2019 09:15, Reco wrote:
> Hi.
>
> On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 09:56:04AM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
>> On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 10:42:19AM +0300, Reco wrote:
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 09:14:30AM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
>>
>> [...]
>>
Or just ditch Wayland (/me ru
Hi.
On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 09:56:04AM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 10:42:19AM +0300, Reco wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 09:14:30AM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> > > Or just ditch Wayland (/me runs for cover ;-)
>
> This was admittedl
On Mon, 15 Apr 2019 17:32:47 +1000
Keith Bainbridge wrote:
Hello Keith,
>I'm more intrigued that synaptic reportedly removed itself.
>How is this possible, or did some other package force its removal?
Removal occurred because of otherwise unresolvable conflicts. In this
case, with Wayland. OP
On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 10:42:19AM +0300, Reco wrote:
>
> On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 09:14:30AM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
[...]
> > Or just ditch Wayland (/me runs for cover ;-)
This was admittedly a bit provocative -- no offense intended.
> A short-term solution at best, although I'll avoid
Hi.
On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 08:18:20AM +0100, Paul Sutton wrote:
> Thanks for your reply, as, on a related note, this helps me with the
> basic presentation that I an working on. I was aware that synaptic is
> now removed, but I wasn't aware what it it had been replaced with
Not 'replace
Good afternoon All
I'm more intrigued that synaptic reportedly removed itself.
How is this possible, or did some other package force its removal?
Keith Bainbridge
keithr...@gmail.com
+61 (0)447 667 468
On 15/4/19 3:24 pm, Kieran Smyth wrote:
For reasons unknown to me, synaptic uninstalle
Hi.
On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 09:14:30AM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 09:03:47AM +0300, Reco wrote:
> > On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 01:24:32AM -0400, Kieran Smyth wrote:
> > > For reasons unknown to me, synaptic uninstalled itself about three weeks
> > > ago. I am usi
Hi
As previously mentioned, I am working on a basic (not too technical)
presentation for Buster.
Following the topic here on Synaptic in Buster being replaced with
gnome-packagekit
I am using LaTeX beamer for this and have included part of the table
source for a technical overview below:
Kernel
On 15/04/2019 07:03, Reco wrote:
> Hi.
>
> On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 01:24:32AM -0400, Kieran Smyth wrote:
>> For reasons unknown to me, synaptic uninstalled itself about three weeks
>> ago. I am using Buster on the desktop, with MATE as my desktop environment.
>
> Synaptic was removed fro
On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 09:03:47AM +0300, Reco wrote:
> Hi.
>
> On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 01:24:32AM -0400, Kieran Smyth wrote:
> > For reasons unknown to me, synaptic uninstalled itself about three weeks
> > ago. I am using Buster on the desktop, with MATE as my desktop environment.
>
> Syna
On Sun, Apr 14, 2019 at 08:38:48AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
[...]
> >>>In past conversations it has been suggested that I do a typical
> >>>install and just un-install the un-desired elements:
Start with what debootstrap [1] gives you and work up from there.
This is what any regular Debian i
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