Re: Debian buster installer says Debian 9

2019-04-07 Thread Kenneth Parker
On Sun, Apr 7, 2019 at 4:10 PM wrote: > On Sunday, April 07, 2019 08:03:12 AM rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > Well, just to add a different perspective, I hope you won't have to > submit > > but reports ;-) > > Darn, meant to say bug (but I hope you don't have to submit butt reports, > either) ;-)

Re: Flatpak and apparmor.

2019-04-07 Thread Georgios
On 4/7/19 5:45 PM, David Wright wrote: >> On 4/7/19 10:20 AM, didier gaumet wrote: >>> Disclaimer: I have never used Apparmor nor SELinux, > > Ditto. I've only explored the Debian profile for evince in order to see > how it's possible to click on a link and call a program that's run via > a wra

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2019-04-07 Thread Gdsi
Good evening. I about the wireless Internet. USB modem in the tight car in the parking lot suits, but on the go there is inconvenience, he stick out from laptop in 8 cm, it can be in the car break it off. His manual says that if plugged he to AC adapter, he can distribute Wi-Fi but I am wishi

Re: Measuring (or calculating) how many bytes are actually written to disk when I repeatedly save a file

2019-04-07 Thread Reco
Hi. On Sun, Apr 07, 2019 at 10:10:58PM +0200, Carles Pina i Estany wrote: > > Hi, > > On Apr/06/2019, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > > Can anyone confirm that, and, if so, suggest any way of measuring how much > > is > > written to a given file in a given time period (e.g., per day)? >

Re: Measuring (or calculating) how many bytes are actually written to disk when I repeatedly save a file

2019-04-07 Thread Carles Pina i Estany
Hi, On Apr/06/2019, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > Can anyone confirm that, and, if so, suggest any way of measuring how much is > written to a given file in a given time period (e.g., per day)? > > I guess at a very deep level (I mean like at the level of the disk firmware > or > driver level

Re: Debian buster installer says Debian 9

2019-04-07 Thread rhkramer
On Sunday, April 07, 2019 08:03:12 AM rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > Well, just to add a different perspective, I hope you won't have to submit > but reports ;-) Darn, meant to say bug (but I hope you don't have to submit butt reports, either) ;-)

Re: Measuring (or calculating) how many bytes are actually written to disk when I repeatedly save a file

2019-04-07 Thread Stefan Monnier
>> Not completely sure if "you assume" or "you know" it to be the case. > Sorry, I should have tried to be more clear -- sort of a digression, but I > came from an environment where anytime someone used the word assume, someone > else would point out what (they thought) that meant (it makes an as

Re: Flatpak and apparmor.

2019-04-07 Thread Reco
Hi. On Sun, Apr 07, 2019 at 04:59:41PM +0300, Georgios wrote: > Thanks for your help! > > So flatpak and apparmor are not compatible. So it seems so far. I haven't looked at bwrap code, it's possible they set some Apparmor policy there (LXC does it, for instance). Or not, considering who

Re: Flatpak and apparmor.

2019-04-07 Thread David Wright
> On 4/7/19 10:20 AM, didier gaumet wrote: > > Disclaimer: I have never used Apparmor nor SELinux, Ditto. I've only explored the Debian profile for evince in order to see how it's possible to click on a link and call a program that's run via a wrapper that sets PYTHONPATH, GUILE_LOAD_PATH and LD_L

Re: Flatpak and apparmor.

2019-04-07 Thread Georgios
Thanks for your help! So flatpak and apparmor are not compatible. Well what about selinux? I was thinking moving from apparmor to selinux sooner or later but I already had a working system that I didn't want to mess. If selinux is supported I guess I should consider making the transition. On

Re: Measuring (or calculating) how many bytes are actually written to disk when I repeatedly save a file

2019-04-07 Thread rhkramer
Thanks for the response -- two comments below: On Sunday, April 07, 2019 08:53:16 AM Erik Christiansen wrote: > Not the boys in blue, by any chance? Station sergeants tend to plant > that lesson early in a rookie's consciousness, I hear. No -- a large steel company that went out of business aroun

Re: Flatpak and apparmor.

2019-04-07 Thread Reco
Hi. On Sat, Apr 06, 2019 at 09:30:11PM +0300, Georgios wrote: > I would like to know how i can set up an apparmor profile of a > application i run through flatpak. It seems impossible. For instance, I've executed: flatpak install flathub com.dosbox.DOSBox Along with the new whole root

Re: Measuring (or calculating) how many bytes are actually written to disk when I repeatedly save a file

2019-04-07 Thread rhkramer
On Sunday, April 07, 2019 05:41:42 AM Curt wrote: > On 2019-04-06, Stefan Monnier wrote: > >> 2. A lot of my editing involves editing near (but not at) the end of > >> a file. I assume (I know) that the software that saves the file is > >> smart enough not to rewrite the entire file but instead t

Re: Measuring (or calculating) how many bytes are actually written to disk when I repeatedly save a file

2019-04-07 Thread rhkramer
Again, thanks to all who replied -- one comment below -- oops, that changed ;-) On Saturday, April 06, 2019 09:22:17 PM Andy Smith wrote: > You can test by writing a known quantity of data to the device (say, > with dd) and then checking out with smartctl how much the counters > altered. Here's a

Re: Measuring (or calculating) how many bytes are actually written to disk when I repeatedly save a file

2019-04-07 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 07.04.19 08:12, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > Sorry, I should have tried to be more clear -- sort of a digression, but I > came from an environment where anytime someone used the word assume, someone > else would point out what (they thought) that meant (it makes an ass out of > [yo]u and me).

Re: Measuring (or calculating) how many bytes are actually written to disk when I repeatedly save a file

2019-04-07 Thread rhkramer
Again, thanks to all who replied, some comments below. On Saturday, April 06, 2019 05:44:19 PM Stefan Monnier wrote: > > 2. A lot of my editing involves editing near (but not at) the end of > > a file. I assume (I know) that the software that saves the file is > > smart enough not to rewrite the

Re: Debian buster installer says Debian 9

2019-04-07 Thread Paul Sutton
On 07/04/2019 13:03, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Sunday, April 07, 2019 05:16:12 AM Paul Sutton wrote: >> Hopefully I can submit more bug reports in the future and get better at >> this. > Well, just to add a different perspective, I hope you won't have to submit > but > reports ;-) > Well y

Re: Debian buster installer says Debian 9

2019-04-07 Thread rhkramer
On Sunday, April 07, 2019 05:16:12 AM Paul Sutton wrote: > Hopefully I can submit more bug reports in the future and get better at > this. Well, just to add a different perspective, I hope you won't have to submit but reports ;-)

Re: [OFF-LIST] Re: Measuring (or calculating) how many bytes are actually written to disk when I repeatedly save a file

2019-04-07 Thread rhkramer
Thanks to all who responded (even off list)! I will respond to some of the other posts if they did something like ask a question. I am exploring smartctl and sar (I found atsar for wheezy and loaded it, adn smartctl in smartmontools -- I had heard of (and even used smartctl sometime in the dis

Re: Measuring (or calculating) how many bytes are actually written to disk when I repeatedly save a file

2019-04-07 Thread Curt
On 2019-04-07, Curt wrote: > On 2019-04-06, Stefan Monnier wrote: >> >>> 2. A lot of my editing involves editing near (but not at) the end of >>> a file. I assume (I know) that the software that saves the file is >>> smart enough not to rewrite the entire file but instead to preserve >>> the beg

Re: Flatpak and apparmor.

2019-04-07 Thread Georgios
Thanks for your reply. I'm using apparmor the last 2 years and I made my own profiles for my applications. The problem I'm having is that since flatpak is a bit different i do not have any idea how to combine it with apparmor or if its even possible. On 4/7/19 10:20 AM, didier gaumet wrote: >

Re: Measuring (or calculating) how many bytes are actually written to disk when I repeatedly save a file

2019-04-07 Thread Curt
On 2019-04-06, Stefan Monnier wrote: > >> 2. A lot of my editing involves editing near (but not at) the end of >> a file. I assume (I know) that the software that saves the file is >> smart enough not to rewrite the entire file but instead to preserve >> the beginning of the file and just rewrite

Re: Debian buster installer says Debian 9

2019-04-07 Thread Paul Sutton
On 06/04/2019 15:15, Paul Sutton wrote: > Hi > > > I created a fresh Debian non free install disk yesterday for Debian > Buster.  Booting in to this, the initial screen for graphical install > says Debian 9.  Has anyone else noticed this. > > This is the contents of the directory with the ISO

Re: How to change GDM3 login screen background

2019-04-07 Thread Curt
On 2019-04-07, Andrew Clark wrote: > > What am I missing? > It appears the wiki's wrong and has been wrong for quite a while now (if not from the very start). Maybe the following method might work (it seems like an incredible rigamarole for such a trivial user customization, but there you go).

Re: Flatpak and apparmor.

2019-04-07 Thread didier gaumet
Hello, Disclaimer: I have never used Apparmor nor SELinux, I only just installed Apparmor on Stretch because it will be enabled by default on new installations of Buster and I want my future migration result to be like a new install. I would surmise (even if I am not sure of it) that Apparmor p