Installing Debian on SSD

2019-03-11 Thread Iman P.
Dear Sir/Madam First thanks for your time. I have an Acer laptop (Aspire E1, x64, amd i7, ram 16, vga 2). My base tasks are using virtual machines. I use dual boot for Win10 & Debian 8.6 & the type of Bios boot is “Legacy”. I gonna change my HDD to SSD & install just Debian 9.8 (so need at lea

Re: And now, from the Nice people? Re: Group thoughts on: Anti-virus tools

2019-03-11 Thread Ric Moore
On 3/10/19 3:53 PM, Brian wrote: On Sun 10 Mar 2019 at 13:18:54 -0400, deb wrote: Crumogeon tip: It is no longer 1972.   If you have nothing nice or at least helpful to say on a  USER list, say nothing at all. All the responses were helpful. You just have to fit them into your World View and

Re: Mart -- [Solved] [Well, not solved,. but sickened by] Re: Group thoughts on: Anti-virus tools

2019-03-11 Thread Stefan Monnier
> OP has a point though. The real world happens to have a huge amount of > heterogeneous networks, and asking for tools to keep those systems safe > is legitimate. I did not perceive the OP's request to be about the case where you administer lots of machines and you want to use a Debian machine as

Re: GNU economics

2019-03-11 Thread Brian
On Mon 11 Mar 2019 at 20:30:55 +0100, Marek Mosiewicz wrote: > Hello, > > Debian webpage states about greedy of IT corporations. In my opinion it Citation, please. [Snip] > What do you think about this ? Nothing to do with Debian. -- Brian.

Re: And now, from the Nice people? Re: Group thoughts on: Anti-virus tools

2019-03-11 Thread deloptes
Curt wrote: > I don't believe he did, actually. I believe that's what Reco wrote. but there is no secure OS, as soon as you get connected to the network, and if you have a server with multiple users ... well. We used to put sensitive servers in DMZ aside of the user network - for a good reason.

Re: GNU economics

2019-03-11 Thread Joe
On Mon, 11 Mar 2019 20:30:55 +0100 Marek Mosiewicz wrote: > Hello, > > Debian webpage states about greedy of IT corporations. In my opinion > it is not so easy to state it. Of course current cloud offer of MS > Office for $12 per month would means one tryllion a year if 7 billion > people would

Re: Mart -- [Solved] [Well, not solved,. but sickened by] Re: Group thoughts on: Anti-virus tools

2019-03-11 Thread Mart van de Wege
Stefan Monnier writes: >> re: apt solving all? I understand it recently had a long-time vulnerability >> itself... >> Linux will get hit more as it gets more popular. > > My point is not that APT and/or Debian is bullet-proof (I live under no > delusion in this respect). Just that instead of kee

GNU economics

2019-03-11 Thread Marek Mosiewicz
Hello, Debian webpage states about greedy of IT corporations. In my opinion it is not so easy to state it. Of course current cloud offer of MS Office for $12 per month would means one tryllion a year if 7 billion people would subscribe. That would be insane. But in fact if 100 million would subscr

Re: Tangentially: on Canonical being a great company?

2019-03-11 Thread Richard Owlett
On 03/11/2019 03:45 PM, Brian wrote: NULL set

Re: Tangentially: on Canonical being a great company?

2019-03-11 Thread Brian
On Mon 11 Mar 2019 at 13:48:04 -0400, deb wrote: > > re: Canonical being a great company as postured by one here: > > >   * They have already been caught selling search results to Amazon. > >   * the board let go ALL non-corporate members - the People's voice. > >   * they sleep with Microsof

Re: Joe - Re: WRITING to NTFS drives

2019-03-11 Thread Joe
On Mon, 11 Mar 2019 14:59:25 -0400 deb wrote: > On 3/11/19 2:47 PM, Joe wrote: > > On Mon, 11 Mar 2019 14:13:38 -0400 > > deb wrote: > > > >> I saw this question come up > >> > >> and it set off bells. > >> > >> > >> Someone asked what the status of WRITING to NTFS drives was. > >> > >> That i

Re: WRITING to NTFS drives

2019-03-11 Thread Thomas D Dial
On Mon, 2019-03-11 at 14:13 -0400, deb wrote: > I saw this question come up > > and it set off bells. > > > Someone asked what the status of WRITING to NTFS drives was. > > That it was not yet supported (?) . > > > > *MY* Assumptions: > > * MIXED NETWORK, with Win, Mac, Linux (EXT4 format

Re: WRITING to NTFS drives

2019-03-11 Thread Alexander V. Makartsev
On 11.03.2019 23:13, deb wrote: > > > I saw this question come up > > and it set off bells. > > > Someone asked what the status of WRITING to NTFS drives was. > > That it was not yet supported (?) . > > > > *MY* Assumptions: > >  * MIXED NETWORK, with Win, Mac, Linux (EXT4 formatted). > >  * many p

Re: Caja's file search --- BUG or Feature?

2019-03-11 Thread David Wright
On Sun 10 Mar 2019 at 09:21:37 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote: > I'm running Stretch with MATE desktop. > > If I submit a sub-string of a filename to "MATE Search Tool", *ANY* > hit reports the full path to the target. That is *GOOD*! > > HOWEVER, if I'm exploring a specific directory with Caja an

Joe - Re: WRITING to NTFS drives

2019-03-11 Thread deb
On 3/11/19 2:47 PM, Joe wrote: On Mon, 11 Mar 2019 14:13:38 -0400 deb wrote: I saw this question come up and it set off bells. Someone asked what the status of WRITING to NTFS drives was. That it was not yet supported (?) . I don't think that has been true for several years, though it

Re: Mart -- [Solved] [Well, not solved,. but sickened by] Re: Group thoughts on: Anti-virus tools

2019-03-11 Thread Stefan Monnier
> There is a spectrum of Windows software than runs between evil malware > and legitimate programs, it isn't just black and white, and many Agreed, but I doubt A/V software will know where to draw the line. Stefan

Re: WRITING to NTFS drives

2019-03-11 Thread Joe
On Mon, 11 Mar 2019 14:13:38 -0400 deb wrote: > I saw this question come up > > and it set off bells. > > > Someone asked what the status of WRITING to NTFS drives was. > > That it was not yet supported (?) . > I don't think that has been true for several years, though it certainly was at o

Re: User rw Permissions on New Hard Drive

2019-03-11 Thread David Wright
On Sat 09 Mar 2019 at 20:31:36 (+0100), Pascal Hambourg wrote: > Le 08/03/2019 à 04:15, David Wright a écrit : > > On Thu 07 Mar 2019 at 23:12:29 (+0100), Pascal Hambourg wrote: > > > Le 07/03/2019 à 20:23, David Wright a écrit : > > > > > > > > A filesystem > > > > that has a label, has that labe

Re: Mart -- [Solved] [Well, not solved,. but sickened by] Re: Group thoughts on: Anti-virus tools

2019-03-11 Thread Joe
On Mon, 11 Mar 2019 13:53:39 -0400 Stefan Monnier wrote: > > re: apt solving all? I understand it recently had a long-time > > vulnerability itself... > > Linux will get hit more as it gets more popular. > > My point is not that APT and/or Debian is bullet-proof (I live under > no delusion in

WRITING to NTFS drives

2019-03-11 Thread deb
I saw this question come up and it set off bells. Someone asked what the status of WRITING to NTFS drives was. That it was not yet supported (?) . *MY* Assumptions:  * MIXED NETWORK, with Win, Mac, Linux (EXT4 formatted).  * many portable 1-5TB drives making the rounds, formatted with

Re: And now, from the Nice people? Re: Group thoughts on: Anti-virus tools

2019-03-11 Thread Joe
On Mon, 11 Mar 2019 11:45:28 -0400 Stefan Monnier wrote: > > I think the premises of your syllogism might lead some to another > > conclusion---that the livelihood of the AV software houses depends > > upon the innate insecurity of the Windows OS. > > Hmm... they don't actually need that: they

Re: systemd mdadm spamming my syslog

2019-03-11 Thread Joe Pfeiffer
Bob Weber writes: > On 3/10/19 5:20 PM, Joe Pfeiffer wrote: > > Since a recent update, my /var/log/syslog is getting spammed with huge > numbers of messages of the form > > Mar 10 14:02:25 snowball systemd-udevd[18681]: Process '/sbin/mdadm > --incremental --export /dev/sda3 --offroot > /dev/d

Re: Mart -- [Solved] [Well, not solved,. but sickened by] Re: Group thoughts on: Anti-virus tools

2019-03-11 Thread Stefan Monnier
> re: apt solving all? I understand it recently had a long-time vulnerability > itself... > Linux will get hit more as it gets more popular. My point is not that APT and/or Debian is bullet-proof (I live under no delusion in this respect). Just that instead of keeping your A/V up-to-date, the GNU

Tangentially: on Canonical being a great company?

2019-03-11 Thread deb
re: Canonical being a great company as postured by one here:   * They have already been caught selling search results to Amazon.   * the board let go ALL non-corporate members - the People's voice.   * they sleep with Microsoft of E-E-E fame.   * The owner is hell bent on getting to IPO lev

Mart -- [Solved] [Well, not solved,. but sickened by] Re: Group thoughts on: Anti-virus tools

2019-03-11 Thread deb
On 3/10/19 1:33 PM, Mart van de Wege wrote: deb writes: Starting assumption: I do want to run A/V.   * I get that it may actually INCREASE attack surface.   * But I have Windows & Mac stuff going back and forth to Debian 9.8 and just want to check. When you say going back and forth, do you

Re: systemd mdadm spamming my syslog

2019-03-11 Thread Bob Weber
On 3/10/19 5:20 PM, Joe Pfeiffer wrote: Since a recent update, my /var/log/syslog is getting spammed with huge numbers of messages of the form Mar 10 14:02:25 snowball systemd-udevd[18681]: Process '/sbin/mdadm --incremental --export /dev/sda3 --offroot /dev/disk/by-id/ata-ST3000DM001-1ER166_Z

Re: sorry for off-topic, i really curious some picture that have [Brian May] <- Queen?!

2019-03-11 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
On Sun, Mar 10, 2019, 7:54 AM 황병희 wrote: > Dear Brad, > > On Sun, Mar 10 2019, Brad Rogers wrote: > > [...snip...] > >>Who is it? Really is him Queen's guitarist?! > > > > Debian's Brian appears to have the middle initial A, whereas Queen's > > guitarist has H (for Harold) as his middle initial.

Re: Caja's file search --- BUG or Feature?

2019-03-11 Thread Cindy-Sue Causey
On 3/10/19, Richard Owlett wrote: > I'm running Stretch with MATE desktop. > > If I submit a sub-string of a filename to "MATE Search Tool", *ANY* hit > reports the full path to the target. That is *GOOD*! > > HOWEVER, if I'm exploring a specific directory with Caja and then search > for the *IDEN

Re: And now, from the Nice people? Re: Group thoughts on: Anti-virus tools

2019-03-11 Thread Stefan Monnier
> I think the premises of your syllogism might lead some to another > conclusion---that the livelihood of the AV software houses depends upon > the innate insecurity of the Windows OS. Hmm... they don't actually need that: they only need people to think that they're vulnerable (regardless if their

Re: And now, from the Nice people? Re: Group thoughts on: Anti-virus tools

2019-03-11 Thread Curt
On 2019-03-11, Stefan Monnier wrote: >> Not that I'm aware of. The thing is - instead of taking an insecure OS >> and building assorted kludges (in the form of anti-virus) around it, >> it's considered wise here to use a secure OS from the beginning. > > This is misleading: all OSes are somewhat

RE: Group thoughts on: Anti-virus tools

2019-03-11 Thread Michael Grant
I use clamav along with clamav-unofficial-sigs, Sanesecurity and Securiteinfo (which I pay for) Secondly, I use “Bitdefender Security for Mail Servers – Linux”, again which I pay for. I use clamav-milter and the bdmilterd to scan mail using clamav and Bit Defender. I must say that it was pret

Re: systemd error

2019-03-11 Thread Default User
On Mon, Mar 11, 2019, 03:45 Sven Hartge wrote: > Default User wrote: > > > I will just have to either ignore the problem and pretend it doesn't > > exist, or just purge the minissdpd package completely, and hope > > nothing really needs it. Decisions, decisions . . . > > "Nothing really needs it

Re: And now, from the Nice people? Re: Group thoughts on: Anti-virus tools

2019-03-11 Thread Stefan Monnier
> Not that I'm aware of. The thing is - instead of taking an insecure OS > and building assorted kludges (in the form of anti-virus) around it, > it's considered wise here to use a secure OS from the beginning. This is misleading: all OSes are somewhat insecure, in practice. The question is what

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Re: Group thoughts on: Anti-virus tools

2019-03-11 Thread Curt
On 2019-03-11, Paul Sutton wrote: > > On 10/03/2019 15:04, Sven Hartge wrote: >> deb wrote: >> >>> a. What does the group suggest running on debian beyond >>>     - chkrootkit >> Useless. >> >>>     - rkhunter >> Crap, unmaintained. >> >> Both tools produce more false positives than finding anyth

Re: Group thoughts on: Anti-virus tools

2019-03-11 Thread Paul Sutton
On 10/03/2019 15:04, Sven Hartge wrote: > deb wrote: > >> a. What does the group suggest running on debian beyond >>     - chkrootkit > Useless. > >>     - rkhunter > Crap, unmaintained. > > Both tools produce more false positives than finding anything, just > creating a false sense of security

Re: And now, from the Nice people? Re: Group thoughts on: Anti-virus tools

2019-03-11 Thread Curt
On 2019-03-11, deloptes wrote: > deb wrote: I don't believe he did, actually. I believe that's what Reco wrote. >> Not that I'm aware of. The thing is - instead of taking an insecure OS >> and building assorted kludges (in the form of anti-virus) around it, >> it's considered wise here to use a

Re: systemd error

2019-03-11 Thread Sven Hartge
Default User wrote: > I will just have to either ignore the problem and pretend it doesn't > exist, or just purge the minissdpd package completely, and hope > nothing really needs it. Decisions, decisions . . . "Nothing really needs it." is the answer here. It speeds up some operations in some c

Re: And now, from the Nice people? Re: Group thoughts on: Anti-virus tools

2019-03-11 Thread deloptes
deb wrote: > Not that I'm aware of. The thing is - instead of taking an insecure OS > and building assorted kludges (in the form of anti-virus) around it, > it's considered wise here to use a secure OS from the beginning. If you have windows users in your network, the best is to pay for a server

Re: Group thoughts on: Anti-virus tools

2019-03-11 Thread deloptes
deb wrote: > ClamAV I recall 15y ago we integrated kasperky into ClamAV. Easy to integrate and easy to use. Worked great. I left this company couple of years later, but it will not surprise me if they are still using the same setup.