Re: OT : Windows 10 managed desktop

2019-02-23 Thread deloptes
Celejar wrote: >> Hi >> >> Sorry if this this is off topic, but this is something that as a free >> software we can perhaps take advantage of. >> >> Just had this posted to my local Linux user group irc channel >> >> https://www.computerworld.com/article/3293429/microsoft-windows/with-daas-wind

Re: What to do about spam in debian-user [was: Your Password Reset Link from CorrLinks]

2019-02-23 Thread deloptes
Celejar wrote: > It will often be somewhat more complicated. Many smarthosts will refuse > to accept mail if the envelope 'From' and / or the email 'From:' header > do not match the user's account name with the smarthost, so address > rewriting will be necessary. >From what I know is that sooner

Claws mail -buster- doesn't quote text on Reply.....

2019-02-23 Thread Charlie
Through my keyboard: Hello, Using Claws-Mail in Buster and finding when replying, the text of the message is not quoted in the reply. Also doesn't include the quoted text when dropping the menu that says "Reply with quote". When replying with hig

Re: OT : Windows 10 managed desktop

2019-02-23 Thread Celejar
On Fri, 22 Feb 2019 20:51:25 + Paul Sutton wrote: > Hi > > Sorry if this this is off topic, but this is something that as a free > software we can perhaps take advantage of. > > Just had this posted to my local Linux user group irc channel > > https://www.computerworld.com/article/3293429/

Re: What to do about spam in debian-user [was: Your Password Reset Link from CorrLinks]

2019-02-23 Thread Celejar
On Fri, 22 Feb 2019 18:56:50 -0600 David Wright wrote: > On Fri 22 Feb 2019 at 14:16:43 (+), Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 02:08:40PM -, Curt wrote: > > > What Linux mail user agents lack this feature, if it is uncommon? > > > > I thought it was uncommon, but perhap

Re: Swapping Drives - Sanity Check

2019-02-23 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 23/02/2019 à 23:13, David Christensen a écrit : On 2/23/19 4:53 AM, Pascal Hambourg wrote: Le 23/02/2019 à 08:53, David Christensen a écrit : As other readers have noted, using UUID's for the fstab first field (fs_spec) is okay.  Newer Linux kernels offer more meaningful options, such as

Re: Swapping Drives - Sanity Check

2019-02-23 Thread Felix Miata
Michael Stone composed on 2019-02-23 14:14 (UTC-0500): > On Sat, Feb 23, 2019 at 18:51:12 +0100, Pascal Hambourg wrote: >> Michael Stone composed: >>>I never use labels because if I want to attach a drive to another >>>computer for some reason it's extremely common for the labels to >>>collide

Re: Debian Sid updates

2019-02-23 Thread John Hasler
I wrote apt-get out of habit. Apt has now absorbed all of apt-get's features and is the end-user tool. It could break backward compatibility in the future if that seems warranted. Apt-get is for scripts and will remain backward-compatible if possible. Thus it makes no difference which you use,

Re: Swapping Drives - Sanity Check

2019-02-23 Thread David Christensen
On 2/23/19 4:53 AM, Pascal Hambourg wrote: Le 23/02/2019 à 08:53, David Christensen a écrit : As other readers have noted, using UUID's for the fstab first field (fs_spec) is okay.  Newer Linux kernels offer more meaningful options, such as GPT labels and drive make/ model/ serial number (ID)

Re: Swapping Drives - Sanity Check

2019-02-23 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 23/02/2019 à 20:14, Michael Stone a écrit : On Sat, Feb 23, 2019 at 06:51:12PM +0100, Pascal Hambourg wrote: Le 23/02/2019 à 17:10, Michael Stone a écrit : I never use labels because if I want to attach a drive to another computer for some reason it's extremely common for the labels to co

Re: Debian Sid updates

2019-02-23 Thread Joe
On Sat, 23 Feb 2019 11:15:09 -0500 Default User wrote: > On Sat, Feb 23, 2019, 10:12 Frank McCormick > wrote: > > > > > > > On 2/23/19 10:05 AM, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > > > On Sat, Feb 23, 2019 at 09:44:55AM -0500, Frank McCormick wrote: > > >> I am running Debian Sid and have not had a

Re: Swapping Drives - Sanity Check

2019-02-23 Thread tomas
On Sat, Feb 23, 2019 at 08:50:08PM +, mick crane wrote: > On 2019-02-23 17:03, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: [...] > I'm not very good at electricity. As I've had it explained the > neutral is driven into the ground at the generating station. > The Earth/ground circuit is supposed to be driven into

Re: Swapping Drives - Sanity Check

2019-02-23 Thread mick crane
On 2019-02-23 17:03, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Sat, Feb 23, 2019 at 11:21:39AM -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: [...] * and somewhat similarly (but in a very different context) in a 3 pin power plug for an ordinary household outlet (in the US), the ground pin is longer than the power pi

Re: Debian Sid updates

2019-02-23 Thread Frank McCormick
On 2/23/19 12:22 PM, John Hasler wrote: Good advice from Roberto. Also, I run Sid but do *not* upgrade frequently. Works fine. I just keep an eye on on the development and security lists so that I know when it is safe and/or prudent to upgrade. Blindly "tracking" Sid can get you in trouble.

Re: Swapping Drives - Sanity Check

2019-02-23 Thread Michael Stone
On Sat, Feb 23, 2019 at 06:51:12PM +0100, Pascal Hambourg wrote: Le 23/02/2019 à 17:10, Michael Stone a écrit : On Sat, Feb 23, 2019 at 06:57:05AM -0500, songbird wrote:  i've hated UUIDs since they arrived so i've always used LABELS instead.  for people with a simple layout it makes so much m

Re: Swapping Drives - Sanity Check

2019-02-23 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 23/02/2019 à 17:21, rhkra...@gmail.com a écrit : On Saturday, February 23, 2019 10:52:20 AM Pascal Hambourg wrote: Le 23/02/2019 à 15:41, rhkra...@gmail.com a écrit : On Saturday, February 23, 2019 07:53:23 AM Pascal Hambourg wrote: Le 23/02/2019 à 08:53, David Christensen a écrit : Unders

Re: Swapping Drives - Sanity Check

2019-02-23 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 23/02/2019 à 17:10, Michael Stone a écrit : On Sat, Feb 23, 2019 at 06:57:05AM -0500, songbird wrote:  i've hated UUIDs since they arrived so i've always used LABELS instead.  for people with a simple layout it makes so much more sense to use legible and much shorter id's. I never use labe

Re: Why /usr/sbin is not in my root $PATH ?

2019-02-23 Thread John Hasler
> But it's not Joe Random User, it's Joe Sysadmin Worse. Who is most likely to have put weird stuff in his environment? -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: Debian Sid updates

2019-02-23 Thread John Hasler
Good advice from Roberto. Also, I run Sid but do *not* upgrade frequently. Works fine. I just keep an eye on on the development and security lists so that I know when it is safe and/or prudent to upgrade. Blindly "tracking" Sid can get you in trouble. Don't forget that packages (including new v

Re: Debian Sid updates

2019-02-23 Thread Frank McCormick
On 2/23/19 11:15 AM, Default User wrote: On Sat, Feb 23, 2019, 10:12 Frank McCormick > wrote: On 2/23/19 10:05 AM, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > On Sat, Feb 23, 2019 at 09:44:55AM -0500, Frank McCormick wrote: >> I am running Debian Sid and hav

Re: Swapping Drives - Sanity Check

2019-02-23 Thread tomas
On Sat, Feb 23, 2019 at 11:21:39AM -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: [...] > > Why would you want this ? From an electrical or logical point of view, > > it makes no sense. > > Well, two reasons: > >* in most cases (other than hot plug) you want to make connections first, > before you turn

Re: Swapping Drives - Sanity Check

2019-02-23 Thread John Hasler
rhkramer writes: > Hmm, that surprises me -- I guess I would have expected that you want > the data pins connected first (while no power is applied), and > disconnected last (again, while no power is applied). Data pins can supply current. They have to in order to charge and discharge load and tr

Re: Why /usr/sbin is not in my root $PATH ?

2019-02-23 Thread Tixy
On Sat, 2019-02-23 at 15:27 +0100, Mart van de Wege wrote: > Greg Wooledge writes: > > > > > The problem with "su -" is that it strips out *all* of your > > environment, > > That's a feature, not a bug. You *don't* want to import Joe Random > User's environment into root's. But it's not Joe Ra

Re: Swapping Drives - Sanity Check

2019-02-23 Thread rhkramer
On Saturday, February 23, 2019 10:52:20 AM Pascal Hambourg wrote: > Le 23/02/2019 à 15:41, rhkra...@gmail.com a écrit : > > On Saturday, February 23, 2019 07:53:23 AM Pascal Hambourg wrote: > >> Le 23/02/2019 à 08:53, David Christensen a écrit : > >>> Understand that if you disconnect the power cab

Re: Swapping Drives - Sanity Check

2019-02-23 Thread rhkramer
Thanks for the explanation! On Saturday, February 23, 2019 10:49:56 AM to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Sat, Feb 23, 2019 at 09:41:27AM -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > No. Imagine a data pin at +5V while the power rails are still in an > undefined state. Not good for electronics. > > > I guess I a

Re: Debian Sid updates

2019-02-23 Thread Default User
On Sat, Feb 23, 2019, 10:12 Frank McCormick wrote: > > > On 2/23/19 10:05 AM, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > > On Sat, Feb 23, 2019 at 09:44:55AM -0500, Frank McCormick wrote: > >> I am running Debian Sid and have not had any updates for a couple of > days. I > >> gather this is because of the upcom

Re: Swapping Drives - Sanity Check

2019-02-23 Thread tomas
On Sat, Feb 23, 2019 at 11:11:18AM -0500, Michael Stone wrote: > On Sat, Feb 23, 2019 at 09:41:27AM -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > >On Saturday, February 23, 2019 07:53:23 AM Pascal Hambourg wrote: > >>Le 23/02/2019 à 08:53, David Christensen a écrit : > >>> Understand that if you disconnect th

Re: Swapping Drives - Sanity Check

2019-02-23 Thread Michael Stone
On Sat, Feb 23, 2019 at 09:41:27AM -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: On Saturday, February 23, 2019 07:53:23 AM Pascal Hambourg wrote: Le 23/02/2019 à 08:53, David Christensen a écrit : > Understand that if you disconnect the power cable to a motherboard, > drive, peripheral, etc., but not all th

Re: Swapping Drives - Sanity Check

2019-02-23 Thread Michael Stone
On Sat, Feb 23, 2019 at 06:57:05AM -0500, songbird wrote: David Christensen wrote: ... On 2/22/19 6:19 AM, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: > The OS is on dev/sda. The disk I changing is /dev/sdc As other readers have noted, device nodes for drives are unpredictable. i've hated UUIDs since they arr

Re: Swapping Drives - Sanity Check

2019-02-23 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 23/02/2019 à 15:41, rhkra...@gmail.com a écrit : On Saturday, February 23, 2019 07:53:23 AM Pascal Hambourg wrote: Le 23/02/2019 à 08:53, David Christensen a écrit : Understand that if you disconnect the power cable to a motherboard, drive, peripheral, etc., but not all the other cables (e.g

Re: Swapping Drives - Sanity Check

2019-02-23 Thread tomas
On Sat, Feb 23, 2019 at 09:41:27AM -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Saturday, February 23, 2019 07:53:23 AM Pascal Hambourg wrote: > > Le 23/02/2019 à 08:53, David Christensen a écrit : > > > Understand that if you disconnect the power cable to a motherboard, > > > drive, peripheral, etc., but

Re: Debian Sid updates

2019-02-23 Thread Frank McCormick
On 2/23/19 10:05 AM, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: On Sat, Feb 23, 2019 at 09:44:55AM -0500, Frank McCormick wrote: I am running Debian Sid and have not had any updates for a couple of days. I gather this is because of the upcoming release of Buster? The soft freeze started a few days ago, so I

Re: Debian Sid updates

2019-02-23 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Sat, Feb 23, 2019 at 09:44:55AM -0500, Frank McCormick wrote: > I am running Debian Sid and have not had any updates for a couple of days. I > gather this is because of the upcoming release of Buster? The soft freeze started a few days ago, so I would expect a significant decline in the pace of

[Solved] Re: Simplified -- Re: Quick pointer please? Installing Intel wireless, post OS installation

2019-02-23 Thread deb
On Fri, 22 Feb 2019 19:10:45 + Brian wrote: On Fri 22 Feb 2019 at 13:52:02 -0500, deb wrote: Simplified query: After installing Debian 9.7, without Networking, and without an Ethernet connection, how does one go about installing Intel Wireless (with the non-free bits available on a U

Debian Sid updates

2019-02-23 Thread Frank McCormick
I am running Debian Sid and have not had any updates for a couple of days. I gather this is because of the upcoming release of Buster? I have read some advice on the net that I should change my sources list to point to Buster to avoid a cascade of updates. Is this advisable ? Thanks -- Frank

Re: Swapping Drives - Sanity Check

2019-02-23 Thread rhkramer
On Saturday, February 23, 2019 07:53:23 AM Pascal Hambourg wrote: > Le 23/02/2019 à 08:53, David Christensen a écrit : > > Understand that if you disconnect the power cable to a motherboard, > > drive, peripheral, etc., but not all the other cables (e.g. SATA cable), > > you can fry electronics. >

Re: Why /usr/sbin is not in my root $PATH ?

2019-02-23 Thread Mart van de Wege
Greg Wooledge writes: > > The problem with "su -" is that it strips out *all* of your environment, That's a feature, not a bug. You *don't* want to import Joe Random User's environment into root's. Mart -- "We will need a longer wall when the revolution comes." --- AJS, quoting an uncertain s

Re: Debian package missing

2019-02-23 Thread Andy Smith
Hi Damon, On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 03:55:16PM +, Damon Bakker wrote: > http://security-cdn.debian.org/dists/jessie/updates/main/binary-amd64/Packages > > is now missing. It is used in the pipelines of bitbucket and now it seems > they're broken. Can it not use the .gz or .bz2 versions? http

Re: Swapping Drives - Sanity Check

2019-02-23 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 23/02/2019 à 08:53, David Christensen a écrit : As other readers have noted, using UUID's for the fstab first field (fs_spec) is okay.  Newer Linux kernels offer more meaningful options, such as GPT labels and drive make/ model/ serial number (ID) strings. AFAIK, these options have nothin

Re: Swapping Drives - Sanity Check

2019-02-23 Thread songbird
David Christensen wrote: ... > On 2/22/19 6:19 AM, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: > > The OS is on dev/sda. The disk I changing is /dev/sdc > > As other readers have noted, device nodes for drives are unpredictable. i've hated UUIDs since they arrived so i've always used LABELS instead. for people w

Re: python3.7 disfunctional (was: argparse missing from libpython3.7-stdlib ?) NOW SOLVED

2019-02-23 Thread songbird
Frank Miles wrote: ... > I posted a similar query on the python newsgroup - and Chris Angelico > provided a good diagnostic method and correctly speculated about the > source of the problem. > > What had happened some time ago was I'd introduced a python3 enum system, > which happened to reside at

Re: Swapping Drives - Sanity Check

2019-02-23 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 23/02/2019 à 08:49, Jimmy Johnson a écrit : I know little to nothing about a raid AFAICS, there is no RAID in this setup.