Re: Networking Completely Failed

2019-01-30 Thread Harley A.W. Lorenzo
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 After digging around more, the service file isn't just the only thing gone, the entire package has been removed as well. Honestly, I have no idea what could have resulted in this package being removed suddenly given the only circumstance that changed

Re: Networking Completely Failed

2019-01-30 Thread Harley A.W. Lorenzo
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Thank you. To my surprise, the service was masked. I unmasked it, and the service is completely gone now. I'm going to write it back in and see if this fixes the issue, but now I'm very curious why the service masked itself after switching desktop e

Re: Networking Completely Failed

2019-01-30 Thread john doe
On 1/31/2019 3:04 AM, Harley A.W. Lorenzo wrote: > On a Debian testing laptop that I switched from Cinnamon to XFCE4 (without > xfce4-goodies initially) rebooting into the new desktop environment caused > all my network interfaces except from loopback to fail. The network manager > doesn't appea

Re: Talking about loop devices (was: Re: Partition information as text file?)

2019-01-30 Thread David
On Thu, 31 Jan 2019 at 12:15, David wrote: > > So all but one instance has changed from "loopback" to > "loop" ... maybe someone did a case-sensitive search/replace? :) Well, I found where that change happened, in 2006: https://github.com/torvalds/linux/commit/11420211b8123d0e2f71945ad022e8eec28e

Networking Completely Failed

2019-01-30 Thread Harley A.W. Lorenzo
On a Debian testing laptop that I switched from Cinnamon to XFCE4 (without xfce4-goodies initially) rebooting into the new desktop environment caused all my network interfaces except from loopback to fail. The network manager doesn't appear, Ethernet does not work, restarting any of the system s

Re: Let's play "Where is X?"

2019-01-30 Thread Felix Miata
Brian Potkin composed on 2019-01-30 23:03 (UTC): > On Wed 30 Jan 2019 at 17:56:09 -0500, Felix Miata wrote: >> Brian composed on 2019-01-30 22:33 (UTC): >> > You really should contribute to #80625 and let the systemd maintainers >> > know where they have gone wrong with this issue. >> ??? >> ht

Re: trying to install Debian encrypted in an existed partition, keeping the rest as it is ...

2019-01-30 Thread David Christensen
On 1/30/19 11:05 AM, Brian wrote: On Wed 30 Jan 2019 at 19:51:06 +0100, Pascal Hambourg wrote: Le 30/01/2019 à 16:01, Brian a écrit : On Wed 30 Jan 2019 at 06:42:30 -0800, David Christensen wrote: To avoid confusion, install (and update/upgrade) on a computer with no other drives connected (

Re: trying to install Debian encrypted in an existed partition, keeping the rest as it is ...

2019-01-30 Thread David Christensen
On 1/30/19 11:03 AM, Thomas D Dial wrote: On Wed, 2019-01-30 at 06:42 -0800, David Christensen wrote: If you want a portable Debian installation, install Debian on a USB flash drive. To avoid confusion, install (and update/upgrade) on a computer with no other drives connected (so that GRUB does

Talking about loop devices (was: Re: Partition information as text file?)

2019-01-30 Thread David
On Thu, 31 Jan 2019 at 02:52, wrote: > > [...] > >A plain regular file can be made available as a device >via the loopback driver I have a small addition to this excellent message. There is very widespread mixup of the terms "loopback" and "loop" in the context of block devices. I've wr

Re: logout kills X

2019-01-30 Thread Brian
On Wed 30 Jan 2019 at 20:33:44 +, Brian wrote: > On Wed 30 Jan 2019 at 13:54:14 -0600, David Wright wrote: > > > On Wed 30 Jan 2019 at 19:12:42 (+), Brian wrote: > > > On Wed 30 Jan 2019 at 13:48:17 -0500, Felix Miata wrote: > > > > hoh...@arcor.de composed on 2019-01-30 18:38 (UTC+0100):

Re: Let's play "Where is X?"

2019-01-30 Thread Brian Potkin
On Wed 30 Jan 2019 at 17:56:09 -0500, Felix Miata wrote: > Brian composed on 2019-01-30 17:33 (UTC-0500): > > > You really should contribute to #80625 and let the systemd maintainers > > know where they have gone wrong with this issue. > > ??? > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=

Re: Let's play "Where is X?"

2019-01-30 Thread Felix Miata
Brian composed on 2019-01-30 17:33 (UTC-0500): > You really should contribute to #80625 and let the systemd maintainers > know where they have gone wrong with this issue. ??? https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=80625 not https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=80625 not https://

Re: Let's play "Where is X?" (was: logout kills X)

2019-01-30 Thread Brian
On Wed 30 Jan 2019 at 17:06:31 -0500, Felix Miata wrote: > David Wright composed on 2019-01-30 13:54 (UTC-0600): > > > On Wed 30 Jan 2019 at 19:12:42 (+), Brian wrote: > > >> On Wed 30 Jan 2019 at 13:48:17 -0500, Felix Miata wrote: > > >>> Same problem if you don't use tty1, instead logging

Re: Let's play "Where is X?" (was: logout kills X)

2019-01-30 Thread Felix Miata
David Wright composed on 2019-01-30 13:54 (UTC-0600): > On Wed 30 Jan 2019 at 19:12:42 (+), Brian wrote: >> On Wed 30 Jan 2019 at 13:48:17 -0500, Felix Miata wrote: >>> Same problem if you don't use tty1, instead logging in first on tty2, and >>> after on tty3? >> Did *you* try this? In fa

Re: logout kills X

2019-01-30 Thread Brian
On Wed 30 Jan 2019 at 13:54:14 -0600, David Wright wrote: > On Wed 30 Jan 2019 at 19:12:42 (+), Brian wrote: > > On Wed 30 Jan 2019 at 13:48:17 -0500, Felix Miata wrote: > > > hoh...@arcor.de composed on 2019-01-30 18:38 (UTC+0100): > > > > > > > I logged in (to tty1) > > > > started X (start

Re: logout kills X

2019-01-30 Thread Brian
On Wed 30 Jan 2019 at 14:57:59 -0500, Felix Miata wrote: > Brian composed on 2019-01-30 19:12 (UTC): > > > On Wed 30 Jan 2019 at 13:48:17 -0500, Felix Miata wrote: > > >> hoh...@arcor.de composed on 2019-01-30 18:38 (UTC+0100): > > >> > I logged in (to tty1) > >> > started X (startx) > >> > swi

Re: logout kills X

2019-01-30 Thread Felix Miata
Brian composed on 2019-01-30 19:12 (UTC): > On Wed 30 Jan 2019 at 13:48:17 -0500, Felix Miata wrote: >> hoh...@arcor.de composed on 2019-01-30 18:38 (UTC+0100): >> > I logged in (to tty1) >> > started X (startx) >> > switched to tty2 >> > logged in (using the same name) >> > logged out >> > ->

Re: logout kills X

2019-01-30 Thread David Wright
On Wed 30 Jan 2019 at 19:12:42 (+), Brian wrote: > On Wed 30 Jan 2019 at 13:48:17 -0500, Felix Miata wrote: > > hoh...@arcor.de composed on 2019-01-30 18:38 (UTC+0100): > > > > > I logged in (to tty1) > > > started X (startx) > > > switched to tty2 > > > logged in (using the same name) > > > l

Re: trying to install Debian encrypted in an existed partition, keeping the rest as it is ...

2019-01-30 Thread Thomas D Dial
On Wed, 2019-01-30 at 06:42 -0800, David Christensen wrote: > On 1/29/19 9:30 PM, Albretch Mueller wrote: > > use case: > > > > Say, you have a computer preinstalled with Windows, on which you > > would like to install a Debian Linux base. You would: > > > > 1) resize the larger, Windows pr

Re: logout kills X

2019-01-30 Thread Brian
On Wed 30 Jan 2019 at 13:48:17 -0500, Felix Miata wrote: > hoh...@arcor.de composed on 2019-01-30 18:38 (UTC+0100): > > > I logged in (to tty1) > > started X (startx) > > switched to tty2 > > logged in (using the same name) > > logged out > > > -> X on tty1 crashes > > Same problem if you don't

Re: trying to install Debian encrypted in an existed partition, keeping the rest as it is ...

2019-01-30 Thread Brian
On Wed 30 Jan 2019 at 19:51:06 +0100, Pascal Hambourg wrote: > Le 30/01/2019 à 16:01, Brian a écrit : > > On Wed 30 Jan 2019 at 06:42:30 -0800, David Christensen wrote: > > > > > > To avoid confusion, install (and update/upgrade) on a computer with > > > no other drives connected (so that GRUB do

Re: trying to install Debian encrypted in an existed partition, keeping the rest as it is ...

2019-01-30 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 29/01/2019 à 13:45, Albretch Mueller a écrit : I got one of those office computers I would like to recycle. It has a fat16 (as /dev/sda1) partition with some manufacturer’s selftests which I would like to keep. So, I wiped the rest of the other two partitions to install Debian encrypted, how

Re: trying to install Debian encrypted in an existed partition, keeping the rest as it is ...

2019-01-30 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 30/01/2019 à 16:01, Brian a écrit : On Wed 30 Jan 2019 at 06:42:30 -0800, David Christensen wrote: To avoid confusion, install (and update/upgrade) on a computer with no other drives connected (so that GRUB does not create boot menu entries for other operating systems). (...) Wouldn't remo

Re: logout kills X

2019-01-30 Thread Felix Miata
hoh...@arcor.de composed on 2019-01-30 18:38 (UTC+0100): > I logged in (to tty1) > started X (startx) > switched to tty2 > logged in (using the same name) > logged out > -> X on tty1 crashes Same problem if you don't use tty1, instead logging in first on tty2, and after on tty3? -- Evolution a

Re: Partition information as text file?

2019-01-30 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 30/01/2019 à 16:07, Richard Owlett a écrit : On 01/29/2019 02:08 PM, Pascal Hambourg wrote: Le 29/01/2019 à 15:30, Richard Owlett a écrit : all my disks have "msdos Partition table". Irrelevant. Debian thought it relevant enough to mention in a warning(error?) message. Not Debian. Ju

Re: logout kills X

2019-01-30 Thread Brian
On Wed 30 Jan 2019 at 19:23:43 +0100, deloptes wrote: > hoh...@arcor.de wrote: > > > I finally want to know how to separate the sessions. > > why don't you use a window manager. Most of them offer the option to log in > as different user, which will open a new session on the next console. > I ha

Re: logout kills X

2019-01-30 Thread deloptes
hoh...@arcor.de wrote: > I finally want to know how to separate the sessions. why don't you use a window manager. Most of them offer the option to log in as different user, which will open a new session on the next console. I have not heard of same user logged in in two different X sessions on sa

logout kills X

2019-01-30 Thread hohe72
I logged in (to tty1) started X (startx) switched to tty2 logged in (using the same name) logged out -> X on tty1 crashes some info: .local/share/xorg/Xorg.0.log: [ 41948.035] (EE) modeset(0): failed to set mode: Permission denied [ 41948.035] (EE) Fatal server error: [ 41948.035] (EE) Ent

Re: Partition information as text file?

2019-01-30 Thread Joe
On Wed, 30 Jan 2019 09:07:37 -0600 Richard Owlett wrote: > > > >>   I get the following error message: > >>> root@fromdell:/home/richard# tune2fs -l /dev/sda > >>> tune2fs 1.43.4 (31-Jan-2017) > >>> tune2fs: Bad magic number in super-block while trying to > >>> open /dev/sda Found a dos par

Re: Partition information as text file?

2019-01-30 Thread tomas
On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 09:07:37AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: [...] > The man pages for fdisk, parted, sfdisk, tune2fs, and dumpe2fs each > give "device" as a possible parameter. Only the last two balk at it. This is as if you said that a fillet knife and a nutcracker both specify "food" as a

Re: Partition information as text file?

2019-01-30 Thread Richard Owlett
On 01/29/2019 08:05 PM, David wrote: On Wed, 30 Jan 2019 at 01:30, Richard Owlett wrote: ... [https://dyn.manpages.debian.org/jump?suite=stretch&binarypkg=dosfstools§ion=8&language=en&q=fsck.dos] yields "Sorry, the manpage “fsck.dos” was not found!" In case you are not aware, here's a w

Re: Partition information as text file?

2019-01-30 Thread Richard Owlett
On 01/29/2019 02:08 PM, Pascal Hambourg wrote: Le 29/01/2019 à 15:30, Richard Owlett a écrit : On 01/28/2019 01:43 PM, Pascal Hambourg wrote: The total and used/free space in ext and FAT filesystems can be computed from the output of tune2fs -l/dumpe2fs -h and fsck.dos -n. all my disks have

Re: trying to install Debian encrypted in an existed partition, keeping the rest as it is ...

2019-01-30 Thread Brian
On Wed 30 Jan 2019 at 06:42:30 -0800, David Christensen wrote: > On 1/29/19 9:30 PM, Albretch Mueller wrote: > > use case: > > > > Say, you have a computer preinstalled with Windows, on which you > > would like to install a Debian Linux base. You would: > > > > 1) resize the larger, Window

Re: trying to install Debian encrypted in an existed partition, keeping the rest as it is ...

2019-01-30 Thread Nitebirdz
On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 06:15:23PM -0500, Albretch Mueller wrote: > On 1/29/19, Nitebirdz wrote: > > I used the following two documents sometime ago to perform a similar > > install. Hopefully, they will be of some help to you too. > > > > https://xo.tc/setting-up-full-disk-encryption-on-debian-9-

Re: trying to install Debian encrypted in an existed partition, keeping the rest as it is ...

2019-01-30 Thread David Christensen
On 1/29/19 9:30 PM, Albretch Mueller wrote: use case: Say, you have a computer preinstalled with Windows, on which you would like to install a Debian Linux base. You would: 1) resize the larger, Windows proper (/dev/sda3) partition 2) install Linux encrypted in the created space, with

Re: trying to install Debian encrypted in an existed partition, keeping the rest as it is ...

2019-01-30 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 07:45:40AM -0500, Albretch Mueller wrote: I got one of those office computers I would like to recycle. It has a fat16 (as /dev/sda1) partition with some manufacturer’s selftests which I would like to keep. So, I wiped the rest of the other two partitions to install Debian