Re: blu-ray recommendations?

2018-12-05 Thread deloptes
Curt wrote: > Here's a decade-old (and a little more) opinion from UNESCO (?) about > the matter (although they completely ignore the critical 'shape' > parameter mentioned by TS): > > While recordable optical discs are viable tools in the access to and > dissemination of digital information of a

help to migrate to git to upgrade packaging abcm2ps

2018-12-05 Thread Patrice Duroux
Hi, abcm2ps package does not have any Debian VCS regarding: https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/abcm2ps But there is since few years an active upstream on github. Here are the steps that I tried: gbp import-dsc apt:abcm2ps/sid cd abcm2ps git remote add origin https://github.com/leesavide/abcm2ps.git r

Re: systemd+anacron breaks cron jobs

2018-12-05 Thread Cindy-Sue Causey
On 12/5/18, Kamil Jońca wrote: > Cindy-Sue Causey writes: > >> On 12/5/18, Kamil Jońca wrote: >>> Michael Biebl writes: >>> My general remark that anacron is typically not needed anymore, still stands though (even if it doesn't apply for your specific use case). >>> >>> What is o

Re: systemd+anacron breaks cron jobs

2018-12-05 Thread Kamil Jońca
Cindy-Sue Causey writes: > On 12/5/18, Kamil Jońca wrote: >> Michael Biebl writes: >> >>> >>> My general remark that anacron is typically not needed anymore, still >>> stands though (even if it doesn't apply for your specific use case). >> >> What is other tool to make USER automated, cyclic ta

Re: systemd+anacron breaks cron jobs

2018-12-05 Thread Cindy-Sue Causey
On 12/5/18, Kamil Jońca wrote: > Michael Biebl writes: > >> >> My general remark that anacron is typically not needed anymore, still >> stands though (even if it doesn't apply for your specific use case). > > What is other tool to make USER automated, cyclic tasks? I learned of "apt-cache searc

Re: systemd+anacron breaks cron jobs

2018-12-05 Thread Kamil Jońca
Michael Biebl writes: > > My general remark that anacron is typically not needed anymore, still > stands though (even if it doesn't apply for your specific use case). What is other tool to make USER automated, cyclic tasks? KJ -- http://stopstopnop.pl/stop_stopnop.pl_o_nas.html We totally deny

Re: systemd+anacron breaks cron jobs

2018-12-05 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 05.12.18 um 11:35 schrieb Kamil Jońca: > So I cannot drop (ana)cron :) EOT With your specific set of requirements, you are most likely best served by cron (and anacron if your system is not continuously running). I still don't understand why you need to start your backup task as user service

Re: systemd+anacron breaks cron jobs

2018-12-05 Thread Kamil Jońca
Michael Biebl writes: > Am 05.12.18 um 11:04 schrieb Kamil Jońca: > >> But 'enable-linger' starts my ALL services, which is not what I want. >> I want to start only timers. > > Since you can only have one systemd --user instance, this is not possible. > You can't have a systemd --user instance wh

Re: systemd+anacron breaks cron jobs

2018-12-05 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 05.12.18 um 11:04 schrieb Kamil Jońca: > But 'enable-linger' starts my ALL services, which is not what I want. > I want to start only timers. Since you can only have one systemd --user instance, this is not possible. You can't have a systemd --user instance which is started during boot with on

Re: systemd+anacron breaks cron jobs

2018-12-05 Thread Kamil Jońca
Michael Biebl writes: [...] > >> 2. start timers irrespective of graphical login. > > If you want them to be started during boot, use enable-linger But 'enable-linger' starts my ALL services, which is not what I want. I want to start only timers. KJ -- http://wolnelektury.pl/wesprzyj/teraz/ A

Re: systemd+anacron breaks cron jobs

2018-12-05 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 05.12.18 um 10:49 schrieb Michael Biebl: > Am 05.12.18 um 10:47 schrieb Kamil Jońca: >> How can I: >> 1. start services only with graphical login and > > You can't. At least not yet. Use ~/.config/autostart Some work has already been done to support graphical-session.target https://www.freed

Re: systemd+anacron breaks cron jobs

2018-12-05 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 05.12.18 um 10:47 schrieb Kamil Jońca: > Michael Biebl writes: > >> Am 05.12.18 um 10:04 schrieb Kamil Jońca: >>> Michael Biebl writes: >> > which in turn, can break ALL your "user" units) I'd be interested to know, what exactly you have in mind here. I'm not aware of such

Re: systemd+anacron breaks cron jobs

2018-12-05 Thread Kamil Jońca
Michael Biebl writes: > Am 05.12.18 um 10:04 schrieb Kamil Jońca: >> Michael Biebl writes: > which in turn, can break ALL your "user" units) >>> >>> I'd be interested to know, what exactly you have in mind here. I'm not >>> aware of such a breakage. >> >> For example: I have (--user) >> k

Re: systemd+anacron breaks cron jobs

2018-12-05 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 05.12.18 um 10:04 schrieb Kamil Jońca: > Michael Biebl writes: >>> which in turn, can break ALL your "user" units) >> >> I'd be interested to know, what exactly you have in mind here. I'm not >> aware of such a breakage. > > For example: I have (--user) > kj-keepassx.service - my own service

Re: blu-ray recommendations?

2018-12-05 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, deloptes wrote: > the nature of the CD/DVD implies degradation of material. This is where our experience differs. If i had such media in hand i would run img_buffer=...path.for.emerging.media.image.file... sector_map=...path.for.emerging.map.file... xorriso -outdev /dev/sr0 \

Re: systemd+anacron breaks cron jobs

2018-12-05 Thread Kamil Jońca
Michael Biebl writes: > Am 05.12.18 um 08:54 schrieb Kamil Jońca: >> "User" task aren't started until user logs in. (You should play with >> enable-linger, > > I haven't read the full discussion, so I missed the part that you are > apparently using a user crontab. To clarify things: 1. In origin

Re: blu-ray recommendations?

2018-12-05 Thread Curt
On 2018-12-05, deloptes wrote: > Thomas Schmitt wrote: > >> To my experience, degradation of once verified media is rare, even long >> after they have been written. More probable is drive degradation. >> (With re-usable media stored for a long time, there is an increased >> probability that they f

Re: systemd+anacron breaks cron jobs

2018-12-05 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 05.12.18 um 08:54 schrieb Kamil Jońca: > "User" task aren't started until user logs in. (You should play with > enable-linger, I haven't read the full discussion, so I missed the part that you are apparently using a user crontab. Just curious: Why are you starting the backup task via a user cr

Re: systemd+anacron breaks cron jobs

2018-12-05 Thread Kamil Jońca
Michael Biebl writes: > Am 05.12.18 um 07:41 schrieb Michael Biebl: >> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=864213#25 >> If you drop /lib/udev/rules.d/60-anacron.rules my bet is that the >> problem is gone. > > Btw, I'd go as far and say that you can safely drop anacron these days.