Re: debian-9.5.0-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso missing files for install without mirror

2018-11-05 Thread David Wright
On Mon 05 Nov 2018 at 21:11:46 (+0100), Pascal Hambourg wrote: > Le 05/11/2018 à 16:51, David Wright a écrit : > > On Sun 04 Nov 2018 at 16:53:19 (+0100), Pascal Hambourg wrote: > > > Le 04/11/2018 à 16:44, David Wright a écrit : > > > > > > > > I was under the impression that "netinst" stood for

Re: Removing firefox-esr also removes gnome

2018-11-05 Thread John Crawley
On 06/11/2018 04.24, David Parker wrote: Thanks for the information.  I guess I'm just surprised that the dependencies are limited to firefox/firefox-esr/chromium.  Seems like other browsers like Iceweasel are just arbitrarily left out. https://www.debian.org/releases/stretch/amd64/release-note

Re: Removing firefox-esr also removes gnome

2018-11-05 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2018-11-05, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Mon, Nov 05, 2018 at 11:55:48AM -0500, David Parker wrote: >> Does anyone know why Gnome apparently depends on >> firefox-esr, and how I can just uninstall firefox-esr and leave Gnome alone? > > apt-cache show gnome-core | grep Depends > > It says "... fire

Re: jupyter notebook immediately crashes with dead kernel

2018-11-05 Thread D. R. Evans
vipul kumar wrote on 11/05/2018 05:35 PM: > Run Jupyter-notebook from terminal. Send log report which you'll get on > terminal while running jupyter-notebook. > > [W 18:07:15.047 NotebookApp] Widgets are unavailable. On Debian, notebook support for widgets is provided by the package jupyt

Re: debian-9.5.0-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso missing files for install without mirror

2018-11-05 Thread Steve McIntyre
Pascal Hambourg wrote: >Le 05/11/2018 à 22:23, Steve McIntyre a écrit : >> >> Sorry, netinsts are special - they only contain the installer and the >> base system and a *very* limited set of extra packages that are >> hand-configured. >> >> The base system will end up overlapping a little with

Re: jupyter notebook immediately crashes with dead kernel

2018-11-05 Thread vipul kumar
Run Jupyter-notebook from terminal. Send log report which you'll get on terminal while running jupyter-notebook. Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email. ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Tuesday, November 6, 2018 5:30 AM, D. R. Evans wrote: > Running current debian stable (64-bit). > > I install

jupyter notebook immediately crashes with dead kernel

2018-11-05 Thread D. R. Evans
Running current debian stable (64-bit). I installed the jupyter-notebook package (which caused several other packages associated with python3 to be installed). There was no indication of any problems with the installation, and I didn't see any messages suggesting that anything else needs to be do

Re: debian-9.5.0-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso missing files for install without mirror

2018-11-05 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 05/11/2018 à 22:23, Steve McIntyre a écrit : Sorry, netinsts are special - they only contain the installer and the base system and a *very* limited set of extra packages that are hand-configured. The base system will end up overlapping a little with Priority: standard (the 43 you've seen). T

Re: debian-9.5.0-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso missing files for install without mirror

2018-11-05 Thread Steve McIntyre
Michael Stone wrote: >On Mon, Nov 05, 2018 at 09:11:46PM +0100, Pascal Hambourg wrote: >>PS : aren't you confusing "netinst" with "netboot", which requires a >>network connection to a mirror ? > >There used to be bootable business card netinst images that had almost >nothing other than the kernel

Re: debian-9.5.0-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso missing files for install without mirror

2018-11-05 Thread Steve McIntyre
Pascal Hambourg wrote: >Le 04/11/2018 à 14:52, Steve McIntyre a écrit : >> Pascal Hambourg wrote: >> In article you write: >>> Le 04/11/2018 à 01:23, Steve McIntyre a écrit : As I just wrote elsewhere, it looks like a bug in the security.d.o infrastructure. I'm chasing t

Re: dovecot, openssl, TLS1.0

2018-11-05 Thread Brad Rogers
On Mon, 5 Nov 2018 17:46:14 +0100 Jan Foniok wrote: Hello Jan, Putting this back on D-U... >thanks a lot for your reply and excuse my inexperience. My apologies; That's my fault. I made an unwarranted assumption about your experience level. >In spite of some effort I haven't found this sysa

Re: debian-9.5.0-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso missing files for install without mirror

2018-11-05 Thread Michael Stone
On Mon, Nov 05, 2018 at 09:11:46PM +0100, Pascal Hambourg wrote: PS : aren't you confusing "netinst" with "netboot", which requires a network connection to a mirror ? There used to be bootable business card netinst images that had almost nothing other than the kernel and the installer, and nee

Re: debian-9.5.0-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso missing files for install without mirror

2018-11-05 Thread Steve McIntyre
dpchr...@holgerdanske.com wrote: >On 11/4/18 5:45 AM, Steve McIntyre wrote: >>> >>> That is https://bugs.debian.org/867668. >> >> Yup. That's just been confirmed in #debian-ftp: >> >> 2018-11-04 13:41 GMT < waldi> found it. only new overrides are synced, not >> existing updated >> >> There *are

Re: debian-9.5.0-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso missing files for install without mirror

2018-11-05 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 05/11/2018 à 16:51, David Wright a écrit : On Sun 04 Nov 2018 at 16:53:19 (+0100), Pascal Hambourg wrote: Le 04/11/2018 à 16:44, David Wright a écrit : I was under the impression that "netinst" stood for "network installer", so the image only contains what's essential to bootstrap a standar

Re: Removing firefox-esr also removes gnome

2018-11-05 Thread Ben Caradoc-Davies
On 06/11/2018 08:37, Reco wrote: Seems like other browsers like Iceweasel are just arbitrarily left out. It's been two years since they discontinued Iceweasel. Iceweasel was just Debian's Firefox rebranded to address trademark and logo licensing issues

Re: Removing firefox-esr also removes gnome

2018-11-05 Thread Reco
Hi. On Mon, Nov 05, 2018 at 02:24:22PM -0500, David Parker wrote: > Thanks for the information. I guess I'm just surprised that the > dependencies are limited to firefox/firefox-esr/chromium. Other browsers don't have whatever it takes to make chrome-gnome-shell working. Or are proprieta

Re: Recognition of SiS900 Ethernet driver by Debian 9.5 installer.

2018-11-05 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 05/11/2018 à 04:26, pe...@easthope.ca a écrit : The 8.7 and 9.3 installers had no difficulty recognizing the SiS 900 PCI Fast Ethernet NIC. The 9.5 installer complains that no NIC is available. If the driver is chosen from the list presented, the NIC is still not recognized. Any ideas about

Re: Removing firefox-esr also removes gnome

2018-11-05 Thread David Parker
Thanks for the information. I guess I'm just surprised that the dependencies are limited to firefox/firefox-esr/chromium. Seems like other browsers like Iceweasel are just arbitrarily left out. - Dave On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 12:01 PM Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Mon, Nov 05, 2018 at 11:55:48

Re: Raid0

2018-11-05 Thread David Christensen
On 11/5/18 9:17 AM, Finariu Florin wrote: Hi, Hi. :-) Somebody can help me with some information about why I can not see the Raid0 created in bios? I have a motherboard EPC602D8A with 2 chipsets: Intel C602 (Sata 2 x 4, Sata 3 x 2) and Marvell SE9172 (Sata 3 x 2). I create in BIOS a Raid0

Re: Recommendation on partition sizes

2018-11-05 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 05/11/2018 à 00:10, Stefan Monnier a écrit : [ Sadly --resizefs doesn't work on a swap partition, AFAICT. ] Because there is no swap resizing tool. There is no "online" swap resizing tool, but `mkswap` should work to resize a (currently unused) swap. mkswap does not even qualify as an of

Re: Recommendation on partition sizes

2018-11-05 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 05/11/2018 à 09:11, Rick Thomas a écrit : On Nov 4, 2018, at 1:19 AM, Pascal Hambourg wrote: Le 04/11/2018 à 05:45, Andy Smith a écrit : So, if I were you, I'd be doing something like: - 512MiB /boot - 2 GiB swap, or 16GiB if you intend to use it as a hibernate device - Rest as LVM volum

Re: [SOLVED] Re: Migrating Debian installation to a new motherboard

2018-11-05 Thread Celejar
On Sun, 4 Nov 2018 16:42:41 -0800 David Christensen wrote: > On 11/4/18 7:25 AM, David Wright wrote: > > On Fri 02 Nov 2018 at 23:09:02 (-0700), David Christensen wrote: > >> ... I researched commercial products, asked around on Linux and > >> BSD lists, and bought Ubiquiti Networks UniFi stuff:

RE: Oracle VM VirtualBox on MS Windows 10

2018-11-05 Thread s.molnar
-Original Message- From: Alexandre GRIVEAUX Sent: Monday, November 5, 2018 10:29 AM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Oracle VM VirtualBox on MS Windows 10 Le 2018-11-05 13:12, s.mol...@sbcglobal.net a écrit : > I have encountered an unusual (at least for me) problem. > >

Re: debian-9.5.0-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso missing files for install without mirror

2018-11-05 Thread Brian
On Mon 05 Nov 2018 at 10:51:34 -0500, David Wright wrote: > On Sun 04 Nov 2018 at 16:53:19 (+0100), Pascal Hambourg wrote: > > Le 04/11/2018 à 16:44, David Wright a écrit : > > > On Sun 04 Nov 2018 at 15:51:21 (+0100), Pascal Hambourg wrote: > > > > Le 04/11/2018 à 14:52, Steve McIntyre a écrit :

Re: Removing firefox-esr also removes gnome

2018-11-05 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Nov 05, 2018 at 11:55:48AM -0500, David Parker wrote: > Does anyone know why Gnome apparently depends on > firefox-esr, and how I can just uninstall firefox-esr and leave Gnome alone? apt-cache show gnome-core | grep Depends It says "... firefox-esr (>= 30) | firefox (>= 30) | chromium ..

Re: Removing firefox-esr also removes gnome

2018-11-05 Thread Reco
Hi. On Mon, Nov 05, 2018 at 11:55:48AM -0500, David Parker wrote: > Hello, > > I'm running Debian 9.5 (amd64) and attempting to uninstall firefox-esr. > However, apt says that gnome and gnome-core are among the packages which > will also be uninstalled. Does anyone know why Gnome apparen

Removing firefox-esr also removes gnome

2018-11-05 Thread David Parker
Hello, I'm running Debian 9.5 (amd64) and attempting to uninstall firefox-esr. However, apt says that gnome and gnome-core are among the packages which will also be uninstalled. Does anyone know why Gnome apparently depends on firefox-esr, and how I can just uninstall firefox-esr and leave Gnome

Re: debian-9.5.0-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso missing files for install without mirror

2018-11-05 Thread David Wright
On Sun 04 Nov 2018 at 16:53:19 (+0100), Pascal Hambourg wrote: > Le 04/11/2018 à 16:44, David Wright a écrit : > > On Sun 04 Nov 2018 at 15:51:21 (+0100), Pascal Hambourg wrote: > > > Le 04/11/2018 à 14:52, Steve McIntyre a écrit : > > > > Pascal Hambourg wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Do you mean tha

Re: Oracle VM VirtualBox on MS Windows 10

2018-11-05 Thread Alexandre GRIVEAUX
Le 2018-11-05 13:12, s.mol...@sbcglobal.net a écrit : I have encountered an unusual (at least for me) problem. The only platform that I own that does not run Debian, is my new 64-bit HP laptop. I had VirtualBox installed on my old 64-bit laptop. I just downloaded VirtualBox-5.2.20-125813-Win.e

Re: Raid

2018-11-05 Thread Reco
Hi. On Mon, Nov 05, 2018 at 02:53:34PM +, Finariu Florin wrote: > I have a motherboard EPC602D8A with 2chipsets: Intel C602 (Sata2 x 4, Sata3 > x 2) A fakeraid aka Intel Martix RAID. There should be some mdadm support for this, but you might as well use mdadm to create your RAID fro

Re: [SOLVED] Re: Migrating Debian installation to a new motherboard

2018-11-05 Thread David Wright
On Sun 04 Nov 2018 at 16:42:41 (-0800), David Christensen wrote: > On 11/4/18 7:25 AM, David Wright wrote: > > On Fri 02 Nov 2018 at 23:09:02 (-0700), David Christensen wrote: > > > ... I researched commercial products, asked around on Linux and > > > BSD lists, and bought Ubiquiti Networks UniFi s

Re: Recommendation on partition sizes

2018-11-05 Thread Michael Stone
On Mon, Nov 05, 2018 at 08:34:41AM +, Curt wrote: I was reading about swap recently and fell upon (like a sword) this remark from 2005 from Andrew Morton: Create the swapfile when the filesystem is young and empty, it'll be nice and contiguous. Once created the kernel will never add or r

Re: Raid

2018-11-05 Thread Dan Ritter
Finariu Florin: >  Hi,somebody can help me with some information about why I can not seethe > Raid0 created in bios? > I have a motherboard EPC602D8A with 2chipsets: Intel C602 (Sata2 x 4, Sata3 > x 2) and Marvell SE9172 (Sata3x 2). I create in BIOS a Raid0 on Marvel and > another Raid0 on Int

Re: IT IS A BUG -- Re: Strangeness when binary executable overwritten by text -- bug or feature?

2018-11-05 Thread Curt
On 2018-11-05, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > In this case, he probably "told it to run in a terminal", and whether > the terminal uses a login shell or not is irrelevant. The fact that > now it's running the program inside a terminal (or possibly a terminal > plus a shell), instead of directly executi

Re: libressl in Buster?

2018-11-05 Thread Michael Stone
On Mon, Nov 05, 2018 at 06:18:00AM +0100, Harald Dunkel wrote: For opensmtpd (the package I am interested in) upstream has decided to ditch openssl in favor of libressl. Now Debian has several options in this case: - add libressl to Debian - stick to the old opensmtpd 6.0.3 and openssl and backp

Re: Archiving content of a directory on a DVD-R.

2018-11-05 Thread tomas
On Mon, Nov 05, 2018 at 09:04:58AM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Sun, Nov 04, 2018 at 07:29:53AM -0800, pe...@easthope.ca wrote: > > How is this for archiving the content of a directory? > > > > pushd ; > > printf "Insert blank DVD-R."; read t ; > > tar -vcpzf - * | xorriso -indev /dev/s

Re: dovecot, openssl, TLS1.0

2018-11-05 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Nov 05, 2018 at 01:36:10PM +0100, Jan Foniok wrote: > What is the best way out? Can TLS1.0 and 1.1 be enabled? TLS 1.0 is insecure and should never be used. TLS 1.1 is questionable. If you google something like "tls 1.1 deprecated", you will get plenty of results telling you why. The mo

Re: Archiving content of a directory on a DVD-R.

2018-11-05 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sun, Nov 04, 2018 at 07:29:53AM -0800, pe...@easthope.ca wrote: > How is this for archiving the content of a directory? > > pushd ; > printf "Insert blank DVD-R."; read t ; > tar -vcpzf - * | xorriso -indev /dev/sr0 -add -- -commit ; Be aware that the * glob will probably miss filenames

Re: IT IS A BUG -- Re: Strangeness when binary executable overwritten by text -- bug or feature?

2018-11-05 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Nov 05, 2018 at 12:31:11PM +, Andy Smith wrote: > - You have a launcher file that references an executable. In normal > cases calling the launcher from your desktop environment (I don't > know if this is by menu or button or something else) causes the > binary to run. I'm assuming

Re: dovecot, openssl, TLS1.0

2018-11-05 Thread Brad Rogers
On Mon, 5 Nov 2018 14:29:51 +0100 Jan Foniok wrote: Hello Jan, >What is the best way out? Can TLS1.0 and 1.1 be enabled? On 31 Oct, updates included info regarding TLS. Read the mail sent to sysadmin for options. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)ra

Re: selinux and debian squeeze 9.5

2018-11-05 Thread Greg Wooledge
> > squeeze! > > Speaking of obvious — the OP says 9.5, so presumably they _meant_ to say > Stretch — no? It does not say "9.5" anywhere in the original post. It does, however, say 9.5 in the Subject header. Unfortunately, we have a divide here. Newbies think that putting information in the Sub

Re: No (USB) mouse and keyboard after resume

2018-11-05 Thread Reco
Hi. On Sat, Nov 03, 2018 at 07:12:55PM +0100, Rainer Dorsch wrote: > Hi, > > after resume from suspend I have no mouse and keyboard anymore in a Debian > stable system. > > The syslog shows: > > Nov 3 18:23:24 blackbox kernel: [ 318.907431] dpm_run_callback(): > usb_dev_resume+0x0/0

Re: dovecot, openssl, TLS1.0

2018-11-05 Thread Reco
On Mon, Nov 05, 2018 at 02:29:51PM +0100, Jan Foniok wrote: > Hi, > > Apple Mail on El Capitan doesn't seem to support protocols TLS higher than > 1.0 or 1.1. > Older hardware (9 years) is not supported by newer MacOS versions. > > A recent update of debian seems to have disabled these protocols

dovecot, openssl, TLS1.0

2018-11-05 Thread Jan Foniok
Hi, Apple Mail on El Capitan doesn't seem to support protocols TLS higher than 1.0 or 1.1. Older hardware (9 years) is not supported by newer MacOS versions. A recent update of debian seems to have disabled these protocols for dovecot imap. What is the best way out? Can TLS1.0 and 1.1 be enabl

dovecot, openssl, TLS1.0

2018-11-05 Thread Jan Foniok
Hi, Apple Mail on El Capitan doesn't seem to support protocols TLS higher than 1.0 or 1.1. Older hardware (9 years) is not supported by newer MacOS versions. A recent update of debian seems to have disabled these protocols for dovecot imap. What is the best way out? Can TLS1.0 and 1.1 be enabl

Audacity 2.2.2 + Pulseaudio in Debian Sid

2018-11-05 Thread Miguel A. Vallejo
Hello. I upgraded a machine to sid. Everything seems to work just fine but I noticed a problem with Audacity 2.2.2 and Pulseaudio 12.2-2. I can't select pulse neither as recording or playback device. I can select "default" on playing device, and it appears in pavucontrol and I can manage it. Bu

Re: IT IS A BUG -- Re: Strangeness when binary executable overwritten by text -- bug or feature?

2018-11-05 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Mon, Nov 05, 2018 at 06:18:17AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 11/04/2018 07:34 AM, Andy Smith wrote: > >I don't think the login shell setting has anything to do with it. > > You obviously could not be bothered trying it! I don't run any of the same software as you so it would be a

Re: IT IS A BUG -- Re: Strangeness when binary executable overwritten by text -- bug or feature?

2018-11-05 Thread Richard Owlett
On 11/04/2018 07:34 AM, Andy Smith wrote: On Sun, Nov 04, 2018 at 07:24:04AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: Turns out there was a *YUCKY* choice for a default setting. In the default profile for mate-terminal there is a choice titled "Run command as a login shell". The option is *not* enabled.

Oracle VM VirtualBox on MS Windows 10

2018-11-05 Thread s.molnar
I have encountered an unusual (at least for me) problem. The only platform that I own that does not run Debian, is my new 64-bit HP laptop. I had VirtualBox installed on my old 64-bit laptop. I just downloaded VirtualBox-5.2.20-125813-Win.exe and installed it on my new HP Laptop without an

Debian Stretch - software-properties-gtk - updates tab - when there are other updates is grayed out

2018-11-05 Thread Daniel Botting
Hi, I've been trying to find an answer to the below: Desktop    :    Gnome 3 Package    :    software-properties-gtk Issue      :    Click on the updates tab, the dropdown for 'when there are other updates' is grayed out. I've tried asking on #debian on Freenode a number of times and no

Re: Recommendation on partition sizes

2018-11-05 Thread Curt
On 2018-11-04, Pascal Hambourg wrote: > Le 04/11/2018 à 20:56, Stefan Monnier a écrit : I use LVM volumes for my swap space, which is yet another option, one that can be grown and shrunk easily, online. >>> You can resize a logical volume online, but AFAIK you cannot resize a swap >>> ar

Re: Recommendation on partition sizes

2018-11-05 Thread Rick Thomas
> On Nov 4, 2018, at 1:19 AM, Pascal Hambourg wrote: > > Le 04/11/2018 à 05:45, Andy Smith a écrit : >> You're probably going to receive as many different opinions as there >> are different people responding, but my recommendation in nearly any >> situation is to have a reasonable /boot and sw