Re: which program can test cpu speed

2018-10-25 Thread Reco
Hi. On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 03:05:36AM +, Long Wind wrote: > any package that test cpu/system speed and report benchmark? > i have 2 old pc: intel pentium D 2.8 G and amd athlon 64 3800i bought them > from 2nd hand dealers for about same priceso i think they're about same speed Why w

Re: Proof of concept: Mailing list "software" without MTA

2018-10-25 Thread Reco
Hi. On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 05:57:04PM -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > Received: from mail-oi1-x22b.google.com (mail-oi1-x22b.google.com > > [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::22b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher > > ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", > > Issue

Re: versioning file system

2018-10-25 Thread songbird
David Christensen wrote: ... > I did Fortran programming on VAX/VMS machines back in the 1980's. Its > file versioning feature was a godsend [1][2]. I want that on my Debian ... what i really need to do is trust and use git commits more but i have a block about some things... *sigh* so

Re: a quick tip that sometimes saves a lot of further worries

2018-10-25 Thread songbird
Étienne Mollier wrote: ... > Even though I kind of agree with Nicholas, your concept is quite > amusing. :-) :) what good is having multiple terminal windows if you don't use them? most of the time i use only four of them per project. > Would that shell function do the kind of thing you wo

Re: a quick tip that sometimes saves a lot of further worries

2018-10-25 Thread songbird
Greg Wooledge wrote: ... > The ./ breaks the function if you give it absolute pathnames. Replace > this last line with cat -- "$arg" instead. > > A "clever" version of this part of the function that does something > similar in a more compact form is: > > tail -n +1 -- "$@" > > I didn't write that

Re: versioning file system

2018-10-25 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 05:32:52PM -0700, David Christensen wrote: > > Has anybody tried copyfs, fsvs, or anything else with file versioning? > In my experience, I have only found a need to version /etc and $HOME (and really only parts of $HOME, as opposed to all of it). I find that git works re

versioning file system

2018-10-25 Thread David Christensen
On 10/25/18 8:59 AM, songbird wrote: i'm sometimes developing code and in the process manage to mess it up where it isn't backed up or in any other spot, but i do have this habit of keeping a terminal open with text and i sometimes cat or scroll files there so as long as i don't shut down the s

IREDMAIL

2018-10-25 Thread Eriel Perez
Hi. Does anyone on this list use IREMAIL?

Re: a quick tip that sometimes saves a lot of further worries

2018-10-25 Thread songbird
Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > Don't be afraid to use your backups (that you don't make.) heh, well i did make one and i also did a push to my other repository so at least now i have that code elsewhere safe. > I once restored most of a root filesystem I had deleted from a > running server. Th

Re: Proof of concept: Mailing list "software" without MTA

2018-10-25 Thread rhkramer
Thanks for the response -- some comments interspersed below: On Thursday, October 25, 2018 04:45:03 PM Reco wrote: > On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 03:57:32PM -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > Sometimes things just stick in my head until I do something to get them > > out -- sorry. ;-) > > That's OK.

Re: ntp problem in broadcastclients

2018-10-25 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 25 October 2018 16:50:11 Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 04:40:46PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > I added the router to the server list for this machine and get this > > for an ntpq -p: remote refid st t when poll reach > > delay offset jitter > > ==

Re: How to read posts on a browser (how to check if a post I sent got to the list)

2018-10-25 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 25 October 2018 15:57:32 rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > I usually read mail list posts in kmail, but they never show the posts > that I made (except in the sent mail folder). > > I want to see if a post I sent made it to the list. > > I tried going to: > > https://lists.debian.org/debian-

Re: ntp problem in broadcastclients

2018-10-25 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 04:40:46PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > I added the router to the server list for this machine and get this for an > ntpq -p: > remote refid st t when poll reach delay offset jitter > ==

Re: Proof of concept: Mailing list "software" without MTA

2018-10-25 Thread Reco
Hi. On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 03:57:32PM -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > Sometimes things just stick in my head until I do something to get them out > -- sorry. ;-) That's OK. Listening all those voices in the head - that's really disturbing ;) > I am 100% sure I can create mailing li

Re: ntp problem in broadcastclients

2018-10-25 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 25 October 2018 14:08:47 Curt wrote: > On 2018-10-25, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Thursday 25 October 2018 09:32:08 Curt wrote: > >> On 2018-10-25, Greg Wooledge wrote: > >> >> 2 machines report: > >> >> pi@picnc:/etc $ ntpq -p > >> >> No association ID's returned > >> > > >> > I've l

Re: Advice on mailing list software -- special requirements

2018-10-25 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 09:19:02PM +0100, Andrew Wood wrote: > I chose Haiku becuase the MUA is unique - it doesnt have a typcial GUI it > simply periodically downloads mail from an IMAP/POP server into a folder. > MailMistress gets notified when the contents of this folder is updated, > processes

Re: How to read posts on a browser (how to check if a post I sent got to the list)

2018-10-25 Thread Reco
On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 03:57:32PM -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > I usually read mail list posts in kmail, but they never show the posts that I > made (except in the sent mail folder). [1], question 14. Reco [1] https://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser

Proof of concept: Mailing list "software" without MTA

2018-10-25 Thread rhkramer
Sometimes things just stick in my head until I do something to get them out -- sorry. ;-) I am 100% sure I can create mailing list software that does not need an MTA. If this post gets to the list, that is proof -- read on if you wish. (Of course, someone might argue that I've created an MTA,

Re: Advice on mailing list software -- special requirements

2018-10-25 Thread Andrew Wood
Sorry forgot link https://github.com/bluedalmatian/mailmistress On 25/10/2018 21:19, Andrew Wood wrote: On 24/10/2018 19:26, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: � I tried looking up Haiku, and I got a little mixed up � Haiku is an open source reimplementation of the BeOS, its Unix like, it h

Re: Advice on mailing list software -- special requirements

2018-10-25 Thread Andrew Wood
On 24/10/2018 19:26, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: I tried looking up Haiku, and I got a little mixed up Haiku is an open source reimplementation of the BeOS, its Unix like, it has a bash command line but also its own built in GUI (not X based). You can find out more at www.haiku-os.org and downl

Re: How to read posts on a browser (how to check if a post I sent got to the list)

2018-10-25 Thread rhkramer
On Thursday, October 25, 2018 04:03:53 PM Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 03:57:32PM -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > I want to see if a post I sent made it to the list. > > This one did. :-) > > > The last update was on 19:40 GMT Thu Oct 25. There are 859 messages. Page > > 2

Re: How to read posts on a browser (how to check if a post I sent got to the list)

2018-10-25 Thread rhkramer
Never mind, my 4 hours was wrong, it seems to update every 20 minutes. On Thursday, October 25, 2018 03:57:32 PM rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > I usually read mail list posts in kmail, but they never show the posts that > I made (except in the sent mail folder). > > I want to see if a post I sent ma

Re: How to read posts on a browser (how to check if a post I sent got to the list)

2018-10-25 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 03:57:32PM -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > I want to see if a post I sent made it to the list. This one did. :-) > The last update was on 19:40 GMT Thu Oct 25. There are 859 messages. Page 2 > of > 2. > > I think that is about 4 hours behind the current time. wooled

How to read posts on a browser (how to check if a post I sent got to the list)

2018-10-25 Thread rhkramer
I usually read mail list posts in kmail, but they never show the posts that I made (except in the sent mail folder). I want to see if a post I sent made it to the list. I tried going to: https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2018/10/thrd2.html debian-user Oct 2018 by thread But it says (and h

Re: a quick tip that sometimes saves a lot of further worries

2018-10-25 Thread Étienne Mollier
On 10/25/18 9:35 PM, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 09:21:27PM +0200, Étienne Mollier wrote: >> for arg in "$@" >> do >> if [ -f "$arg" ] >> then >> printf '<<< %s >>>\n' "$arg" >>

Re: a quick tip that sometimes saves a lot of further worries

2018-10-25 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 09:21:27PM +0200, Étienne Mollier wrote: > for arg in "$@" > do > if [ -f "$arg" ] > then > printf '<<< %s >>>\n' "$arg" > cat "./$arg" The ./

Re: a quick tip that sometimes saves a lot of further worries

2018-10-25 Thread Étienne Mollier
> On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 11:02 AM songbird wrote: >> now the really nice feature would be if i actually >> made this into a system where my vi editor would >> automagically scroll it for me in some window... >> that will be for some other time. i don't want to >> get sidetracked any more for

Re: a quick tip that sometimes saves a lot of further worries

2018-10-25 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
Don't be afraid to use your backups (that you don't make.) I once restored most of a root filesystem I had deleted from a running server. The server stayed up the whole time, through the mess-up and the restore. Things like /lib. DEC Alpha running OSF/1 :-) And.was OSF/1 ever open-sourced?

Re: qemu redirecting guest output in terminal

2018-10-25 Thread Reco
Hi. On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 05:20:46PM +0200, john doe wrote: > Hi, > > I'm trying to install Debian, it works if I do use the below command: > > qemu -hda debian.img -cdrom debian-9.5.0-amd64-netinst.iso -boot d -m 1024 > > I'd like to redirect the output of the guest (Debian) to the t

Re: Heck, why did the server freeze?

2018-10-25 Thread Brian
On Thu 25 Oct 2018 at 19:53:26 +0200, Alessandro Vesely wrote: > Hi all, > early this morning a network card burned out. A few hours later, the server > was not responding on any network address, nor on the system console. I had > to > power it down. > > Upon rebooting, network errors were det

Re: ntp problem in broadcastclients

2018-10-25 Thread Curt
On 2018-10-25, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Thursday 25 October 2018 09:32:08 Curt wrote: > >> On 2018-10-25, Greg Wooledge wrote: >> >> 2 machines report: >> >> pi@picnc:/etc $ ntpq -p >> >> No association ID's returned >> > >> > I've literally never seen such a message before. I googled it, and >>

Re: ntp problem in broadcastclients

2018-10-25 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 25 October 2018 09:32:08 Curt wrote: > On 2018-10-25, Greg Wooledge wrote: > >> 2 machines report: > >> pi@picnc:/etc $ ntpq -p > >> No association ID's returned > > > > I've literally never seen such a message before. I googled it, and > > there are definitely results that look rele

Heck, why did the server freeze?

2018-10-25 Thread Alessandro Vesely
Hi all, early this morning a network card burned out. A few hours later, the server was not responding on any network address, nor on the system console. I had to power it down. Upon rebooting, network errors were detected an I arranged the server to work with the available hardware. The last l

Re: what is sitting on USB device?

2018-10-25 Thread Mark Copper
On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 12:51 PM Curt wrote: > > On 2018-10-23, Mark Copper wrote: > > > > yes, there is a gnome environment variable that can stifle the gvfs > > monitors and I have done that. Nor do I see any trace of the modules > > mentioned in the error message. > > I didn't know that you ha

a quick tip that sometimes saves a lot of further worries

2018-10-25 Thread songbird
i'm sometimes developing code and in the process manage to mess it up where it isn't backed up or in any other spot, but i do have this habit of keeping a terminal open with text and i sometimes cat or scroll files there so as long as i don't shut down the system i can go there and cut and past

qemu redirecting guest output in terminal

2018-10-25 Thread john doe
Hi, I'm trying to install Debian, it works if I do use the below command: qemu -hda debian.img -cdrom debian-9.5.0-amd64-netinst.iso -boot d -m 1024 I'd like to redirect the output of the guest (Debian) to the terminal so I have added '-nographic': qemu -hda debian.img -cdrom debian-9.5.0-amd64

Re: GNOME Shell integration problem

2018-10-25 Thread Juan R. de Silva
> Looks like this bug: > > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=840804 Thank you Curt.

Re: ntp problem in broadcastclients

2018-10-25 Thread Curt
On 2018-10-25, Greg Wooledge wrote: >> 2 machines report: >> pi@picnc:/etc $ ntpq -p >> No association ID's returned > > I've literally never seen such a message before. I googled it, and there > are definitely results that look relevant. After adding "broadcast" to > the search terms, I came u

Re: strange DHCP behaviour [SOLVED]

2018-10-25 Thread tony
On 24/10/2018 14:41, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 02:35:37PM +0200, tony wrote: > > [...] > >> Ew, this time it worked. I wonder why deleting the leases file was >> better than clearing it out? > > Some things you gotta delete *twice*. > > (Sigh. I guess everyone here knows

Re: ntp problem in broadcastclients

2018-10-25 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 06:23:49PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > The idea is to reduce the loading of 7 machines all banging one the level > 1 and 2 servers by designating one machine to bang of the debian pool, > and then broadcast it on the local 192.169.xx.xx net so all the others > stay withi

Re: System user names, uids, and gids

2018-10-25 Thread gustavo panizzo
hi On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 03:09:05PM +0200, Steve Keller wrote: Dan Purgert writes: No, package management doesn't touch usernames. They're kept as a reference so that when you look at a logfile (etc.) that's still owned by that UID, you'll get the username instead of just an ID number.

Re: GNOME Shell integration problem

2018-10-25 Thread Curt
On 2018-10-24, Juan R. de Silva wrote: > On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 19:41:24 +, Juan R. de Silva wrote: > >> Hi folks, >> >> I'm running Debian Stretch with chrome-gnome-shell installed. GNOME Shell >> integration add-on works just fine with Firefox but does not work with any of >> Chrome based bro