Re: Advice on mailing list software -- special requirements

2018-10-24 Thread Cindy-Sue Causey
On 10/24/18, Joe wrote: > On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 17:56:30 +0100 > mick crane wrote: > >> >> It's not very PC but disqus seems to work > > sometimes. What Joe said... It does work on dialup... "sometimes." Cindy :) -- Cindy-Sue Causey Talking Rock, Pickens County, Georgia, USA * runs w

Re: GNOME Shell integration problem

2018-10-24 Thread Juan R. de Silva
On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 19:41:24 +, Juan R. de Silva wrote: > Hi folks, > > I'm running Debian Stretch with chrome-gnome-shell installed. GNOME Shell > integration add-on works just fine with Firefox but does not work with any of > Chrome based browsers (Vivaldi, Opera) and Google Chrome itself.

Re: ntp problem in broadcastclients

2018-10-24 Thread rhkramer
On Wednesday, October 24, 2018 07:10:00 PM rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Wednesday, October 24, 2018 06:25:46 PM Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Wednesday 24 October 2018 11:07:05 rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > > I think that covers what I was going to say, but in an attempt to show > > > off my knowled

Re: ntp problem in broadcastclients

2018-10-24 Thread rhkramer
On Wednesday, October 24, 2018 06:25:46 PM Gene Heskett wrote: > On Wednesday 24 October 2018 11:07:05 rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > I think that covers what I was going to say, but in an attempt to show > > off my knowledge (or lack thereof) ;-) > > > > As I understand it, NTP tries to get an app

Re: ntp problem in broadcastclients

2018-10-24 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 24 October 2018 11:07:05 rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Wednesday, October 24, 2018 10:27:04 AM john doe wrote: > > On 10/24/2018 2:44 PM, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 08:22:49AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > >> I has this machine running ntp normally, and set t

Re: ntp problem in broadcastclients

2018-10-24 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 24 October 2018 10:27:04 john doe wrote: > On 10/24/2018 2:44 PM, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 08:22:49AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > >> I has this machine running ntp normally, and set to broadcast on > >> the $local/24 network. > > > > I've never used NTP in "br

Re: Package shared library with application

2018-10-24 Thread Damir Porobic
> It is difficult to help without the complete picture. Can you please > provide the complete build output from when you built the package and > the complete console output from the package installation and the fail > launch attempt? Here is the installation and the failed launch: https://pasteb

Re: Advice on mailing list software -- special requirements

2018-10-24 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 09:52:20PM +0100, Joe wrote: > I've always found it odd that the country that invented the Internet > seems to have such poor Internet provision. We (UK) have the choice of > at least half a dozen major ISPs, all delivering fibre to the local > cabinet, i.e. 40-80Mb/s, at le

Re: Advice on mailing list software -- special requirements

2018-10-24 Thread Joe
On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 15:09:37 -0400 Miles Fidelman wrote: > On 10/24/18 2:05 PM, Joe wrote: > > > On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 12:47:10 -0400 > > Miles Fidelman wrote: > > > >> > >> Re. ISP objections - those objections sometimes take the form of > >> active measures that block various kinds of traffi

GNOME Shell integration problem

2018-10-24 Thread Juan R. de Silva
Hi folks, I'm running Debian Stretch with chrome-gnome-shell installed. GNOME Shell integration add-on works just fine with Firefox but does not work with any of Chrome based browsers (Vivaldi, Opera) and Google Chrome itself. It throughs message "Although GNOME Shell integration extension is run

Re: Package shared library with application

2018-10-24 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 07:10:06PM +, Damir Porobic wrote: >> It looks like your build does not actually create/install a library >> called libkImageAnnotator.so.0.0.1.  That would be why it cannot be >> found by the application binary.  Is the source package available online >>

Re: Package shared library with application

2018-10-24 Thread Damir Porobic
> It looks like your build does not actually create/install a library > called libkImageAnnotator.so.0.0.1. That would be why it cannot be > found by the application binary. Is the source package available online > somewhere I can take a look? It does create and install the library on the docker

Re: Advice on mailing list software -- special requirements

2018-10-24 Thread Miles Fidelman
On 10/24/18 2:05 PM, Joe wrote: On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 12:47:10 -0400 Miles Fidelman wrote: On 10/24/18 6:45 AM, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: On Wednesday, October 24, 2018 12:32:15 AM Miles Fidelman wrote: Yes, but you really need a PUBLIC static IP address, or things tend to get hairy. 

Re: Advice on mailing list software -- special requirements

2018-10-24 Thread Miles Fidelman
On 10/24/18 2:30 PM, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: Ahh, a useful clue -- so the mail lists that list procmail as a dependency (and no MTA) might meet my desires of being able to run a mail list without setting up an MTA on my own machine. No. Procmail is primarily a LOCAL delivery agent - genera

Re: Package shared library with application

2018-10-24 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 06:34:16PM +, Damir Porobic wrote: >> It is difficult to help without the complete picture.  Can you please >> provide the complete build output from when you built the package and >> the complete console output from the package installation and the fail >

Re: Advice on mailing list software -- special requirements

2018-10-24 Thread rhkramer
On Wednesday, October 24, 2018 02:07:46 PM Reco wrote: > On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 01:47:27PM -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > > Now that is kind of hard to do. All the mailing list servers that I've > > > worked with require a rather intimate interconnection with the MTA that > > > processes ma

Re: Advice on mailing list software -- special requirements

2018-10-24 Thread rhkramer
On Wednesday, October 24, 2018 01:51:32 PM Andrew Wood wrote: > Ok this is not Linux its Haiku based but I wrote an open source mailing > list system called MailMistress which is on Github for situations where > you need to run a list on a machine without a public IP or where you > want to interfac

Re: Advice on mailing list software -- special requirements

2018-10-24 Thread Reco
On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 01:47:27PM -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > Now that is kind of hard to do. All the mailing list servers that I've > > worked with require a rather intimate interconnection with the MTA that > > processes mail. > > As stated somewhere, we're almost certainly going to

Re: Advice on mailing list software -- special requirements

2018-10-24 Thread Joe
On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 12:47:10 -0400 Miles Fidelman wrote: > On 10/24/18 6:45 AM, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > > On Wednesday, October 24, 2018 12:32:15 AM Miles Fidelman wrote: > > > > > Yes, but you really need a PUBLIC static IP address, or things > > > tend to > > > > > get hairy.  Dyna

Re: Advice on mailing list software -- special requirements

2018-10-24 Thread Joe
On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 17:56:30 +0100 mick crane wrote: > > > It's not very PC but disqus seems to work > sometimes. -- Joe

Re: Advice on mailing list software -- special requirements

2018-10-24 Thread Andrew Wood
Ok this is not Linux its Haiku based but I wrote an open source mailing list system called MailMistress which is on Github for situations where you need to run a list on a machine without a public IP or where you want to interface the database of subscribers to an existing system. In our case w

Re: Advice on mailing list software -- special requirements

2018-10-24 Thread rhkramer
Thanks for the reply! -- some comments below: On Wednesday, October 24, 2018 12:47:10 PM Miles Fidelman wrote: > On 10/24/18 6:45 AM, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Wednesday, October 24, 2018 12:32:15 AM Miles Fidelman wrote: > > > Yes, but you really need a PUBLIC static IP address, or things

Re: Advice on mailing list software -- special requirements

2018-10-24 Thread Miles Fidelman
On 10/24/18 12:56 PM, mick crane wrote: On 2018-10-24 17:47, Miles Fidelman wrote: We've had somebody make such an offer, and we'll probably take them up on it -- I sort of wanted to try to set up a small mail list on one of my computers, as long as I didn't have to run a web server or a *

Re: Advice on mailing list software -- special requirements

2018-10-24 Thread mick crane
On 2018-10-24 17:47, Miles Fidelman wrote: We've had somebody make such an offer, and we'll probably take them up on it -- I sort of wanted to try to set up a small mail list on one of my computers, as long as I didn't have to run a web server or a *nix style MTA Now that is kind of hard to

Re: Advice on mailing list software -- special requirements

2018-10-24 Thread Miles Fidelman
On 10/24/18 6:45 AM, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: On Wednesday, October 24, 2018 12:32:15 AM Miles Fidelman wrote: > Yes, but you really need a PUBLIC static IP address, or things tend to > get hairy.  Dynamic DNS will help, but only to a point.  And, a lot of > ISPs really don't like it if you

Re: ntp problem in broadcastclients

2018-10-24 Thread rhkramer
On Wednesday, October 24, 2018 10:27:04 AM john doe wrote: > On 10/24/2018 2:44 PM, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 08:22:49AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > >> I has this machine running ntp normally, and set to broadcast on the > >> $local/24 network. > > > > I've never used NTP i

Re: what is sitting on USB device?

2018-10-24 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 11:03:05 -0500 Mark Copper wrote: > Trying to connect to a device, I get this error message: > > *** Error *** > An error occurred in the io-library ('Could not claim the USB > device'): Could not claim interface 0 (Device or resource busy). Make > sure no other program (gvfs

Re: strange DHCP behaviour [SOLVED]

2018-10-24 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 02:35:37PM +0200, tony wrote: Ew, this time it worked. I wonder why deleting the leases file was better than clearing it out? Hard to say at this point, but are you sure you cleared every instance in the leases file? (Entries often appear more than once.)

Re: ntp problem in broadcastclients

2018-10-24 Thread john doe
On 10/24/2018 2:44 PM, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 08:22:49AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: >> I has this machine running ntp normally, and set to broadcast on the >> $local/24 network. > > I've never used NTP in "broadcast" mode. > > If it were me, I would simply use the normal

Re: Advice on mailing list software -- special requirements

2018-10-24 Thread rhkramer
BTW, I'm on the mailing list, so you don't need to copy me directly. On Tuesday, October 23, 2018 08:12:13 PM rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Tuesday, October 23, 2018 11:51:21 AM Dan Ritter wrote: > > You have a weird restriction: > I was trying to usurp Richard Owlett's position ;-) > > > "I don

Re: ntp problem in broadcastclients

2018-10-24 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 08:22:49AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > I has this machine running ntp normally, and set to broadcast on the > $local/24 network. I've never used NTP in "broadcast" mode. If it were me, I would simply use the normal configuration in which each client system has the NTP se

Re: strange DHCP behaviour [SOLVED]

2018-10-24 Thread tomas
On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 02:35:37PM +0200, tony wrote: [...] > Ew, this time it worked. I wonder why deleting the leases file was > better than clearing it out? Some things you gotta delete *twice*. (Sigh. I guess everyone here knows _that_ feeling... :) Glad you found it -- t signature.asc D

Re: strange DHCP behaviour [SOLVED]

2018-10-24 Thread tony
On 24/10/2018 13:34, john doe wrote: > On 10/24/2018 1:28 PM, tony wrote: >> On 24/10/2018 08:19, Reco wrote: >>> Hi. >>> >>> On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 03:56:34PM +0200, Tony van der Hoff wrote: The DHCP server is another Stretch system, with the stanzas host tony-lt { hardware

ntp problem in broadcastclients

2018-10-24 Thread Gene Heskett
I has this machine running ntp normally, and set to broadcast on the $local/24 network. I have 6 other machines on this local network, but only 2 are staying with this machine timewise. Does anyone have a clue why the other 4 are not, atm up to 35 seconds diff between them? They all have th

Re: strange DHCP behaviour

2018-10-24 Thread john doe
On 10/24/2018 1:28 PM, tony wrote: > On 24/10/2018 08:19, Reco wrote: >> Hi. >> >> On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 03:56:34PM +0200, Tony van der Hoff wrote: >>> The DHCP server is another Stretch system, with the stanzas >>> host tony-lt { >>> hardware ethernet 0c:60:76:6c:e6:6f; >>> fixed-ad

Re: strange DHCP behaviour

2018-10-24 Thread tony
On 24/10/2018 08:19, Reco wrote: > Hi. > > On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 03:56:34PM +0200, Tony van der Hoff wrote: >> The DHCP server is another Stretch system, with the stanzas >> host tony-lt { >> hardware ethernet 0c:60:76:6c:e6:6f; >> fixed-address 192.168.1.199; >> } >> subnet

Re: strange DHCP behaviour

2018-10-24 Thread tony
On 24/10/2018 12:54, mick crane wrote: > On 2018-10-24 11:39, tony wrote: >> On 24/10/2018 12:11, mick crane wrote: >>> On 2018-10-24 09:40, tony wrote: >>> I've flushed the lease several times (The dhclient -r command mentioned above does that), and physically deleted the lease files.  N

Re: strange DHCP behaviour

2018-10-24 Thread mick crane
On 2018-10-24 11:39, tony wrote: On 24/10/2018 12:11, mick crane wrote: On 2018-10-24 09:40, tony wrote: I've flushed the lease several times (The dhclient -r command mentioned above does that), and physically deleted the lease files.  No good! Isn't that on the laptop and you need to get

Re: Advice on mailing list software -- special requirements

2018-10-24 Thread rhkramer
On Wednesday, October 24, 2018 12:32:15 AM Miles Fidelman wrote: > Yes, but you really need a PUBLIC static IP address, or things tend to > get hairy. Dynamic DNS will help, but only to a point. And, a lot of > ISPs really don't like it if you run servers at the edge. We are currently such a s

Re: strange DHCP behaviour

2018-10-24 Thread tony
On 24/10/2018 12:11, mick crane wrote: > On 2018-10-24 09:40, tony wrote: > >> I've flushed the lease several times (The dhclient -r command mentioned >> above does that), and physically deleted the lease files.  No good! >> > > Isn't that on the laptop and you need to get rid of the entry on the

Re: strange DHCP behaviour

2018-10-24 Thread mick crane
On 2018-10-24 09:40, tony wrote: I've flushed the lease several times (The dhclient -r command mentioned above does that), and physically deleted the lease files. No good! Isn't that on the laptop and you need to get rid of the entry on the server ? mick -- Key ID4BFEBB31

Re: strange DHCP behaviour

2018-10-24 Thread tony
On 23/10/2018 21:57, deloptes wrote: > Tony van der Hoff wrote: > >> Any suggestions, please? > > I would put host declaration after subnet - don't think it makes difference > You're right -- it doesn't! > also check /etc/hosts for left overs and for the lease take care that your > computers up

Re: strange DHCP behaviour

2018-10-24 Thread tony
On 23/10/2018 21:03, mick crane wrote: > On 2018-10-23 14:56, Tony van der Hoff wrote: >> Hi, I havea laptop running fully up to date Stretch with NetworkManager, >> set to use DH|Cp via wireless. >> >> The DHCP server is another Stretch system, with the stanzas >> host tony-lt { >> hardware et

Re: strange DHCP behaviour

2018-10-24 Thread tony
On 23/10/2018 20:06, john doe wrote: > On 10/23/2018 7:49 PM, john doe wrote: >> On 10/23/2018 7:39 PM, tony wrote: >>> On 23/10/2018 18:36, john doe wrote: On 10/23/2018 5:14 PM, Martin wrote: > Shouldn't the host definition be inside the subnet definition? > > Am 23.10.18 um 15:5