Hi.
On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 06:33:09AM +0200, steve wrote:
> Le 16-10-2018, à 09:51:22 +0300, Reco a écrit :
>
> > Hi.
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 07:31:17AM +0200, steve wrote:
> > > Hi there,
> > >
> > > Purged and then reinstalled apache2 and when I want to start apache2,
> >
On Tue, 16 Oct 2018, Gene Heskett wrote:
Other things on my mind, like the cataract op on my right eye at 7AM,
good luck with that! I had both eyes done this past Spring.
fjd
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To recap you reported the original error:
> apache2: Could not open configuration file /etc/apache2/apache2.conf:
> Permission denied
Now you've provided more details, from your audit-log:
> type=AVC msg=audit(1539750555.347:77): apparmor="DENIED"
> operation="open" profile="/usr/sbin/ap
On Wed 17 Oct 2018 at 04:35:36 (+0100), mick crane wrote:
> On 2018-10-16 22:53, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Tuesday 16 October 2018 13:11:45 Greg Wooledge wrote:
> >
> > > On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 12:43:40PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > > #1 is ssh -Y has been killed from jessie on. No excuse f
Le 16-10-2018, à 06:39:01 +, Steve Kemp a écrit :
ls -l /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 7224 jun 2 10:01 /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
Getting nuts.
Probably the permissions on /etc/apache2, or /etc are broken for the
user www-data.
ls -l /etc
drwxr-xr-x 213 root root
Le 16-10-2018, à 09:51:22 +0300, Reco a écrit :
Hi.
On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 07:31:17AM +0200, steve wrote:
Hi there,
Purged and then reinstalled apache2 and when I want to start apache2,
here's what I get:
# systemctl status apache2.service
● apache2.service - The Apache HTTP Server
On 10/14/18 3:06 PM, Long Wind wrote:
given two directories, the program can print files that are in both
directories
to make it easy, if file name and size are same, then they are same
i've to admit my memory is poor, if good, who need such program?
i'm about to write it in java, it can be c
On 2018-10-16 22:53, Gene Heskett wrote:
On Tuesday 16 October 2018 13:11:45 Greg Wooledge wrote:
On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 12:43:40PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> #1 is ssh -Y has been killed from jessie on. No excuse for doing it
> and bug filing is ignored.
I don't know what you mean by this.
On Tuesday 16 October 2018 19:01:53 David Wright wrote:
> On Tue 16 Oct 2018 at 17:53:37 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Tuesday 16 October 2018 13:11:45 Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > > On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 12:43:40PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > > #1 is ssh -Y has been killed from jessie on
On Tue 16 Oct 2018 at 18:42:19 (-0400), Felix Miata wrote:
> David Wright composed on 2018-10-16 17:07 (UTC-0500):
>
> > (Actually, it would be useful to know how to print out the about:config
> > page so tht it can be perused at leisure.)
>
> prefs.js is a plain text file in the profile director
On Tue 16 Oct 2018 at 17:53:37 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Tuesday 16 October 2018 13:11:45 Greg Wooledge wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 12:43:40PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > #1 is ssh -Y has been killed from jessie on. No excuse for doing it
> > > and bug filing is ignored.
> >
Apologies for the baity title but its very literal.
where was it? Google is giving me very poor results, I assume it was
done over mailing list but I'm not even sure where to start lookin. All
I can figure was that it was sometime around Jessie and that XFCE was
the previous desktop. I'm not SUPER
On Tue 16 Oct 2018 at 12:24:49 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Tuesday 16 October 2018 11:37:44 Greg Wooledge wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 11:28:44AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > Since leaving a sudo -i laying about is considered a security
> > > breach, I'm amazed that the -i option
David Wright composed on 2018-10-16 17:07 (UTC-0500):
> (Actually, it would be useful to know how to print out the about:config
> page so tht it can be perused at leisure.)
prefs.js is a plain text file in the profile directory.
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On Sat 13 Oct 2018 at 21:48:11 (-0400), bw wrote:
> On Thu, 11 Oct 2018, David Wright wrote:
> > On Wed 10 Oct 2018 at 21:04:58 (-0400), bw wrote:
> > > I would sure be interested in your method of running firefox on stretch,
> > > without using extensions or addons from outside the debian reposit
On Sat 13 Oct 2018 at 23:17:34 (-0400), bw wrote:
> On Thu, 11 Oct 2018, David Wright wrote:
> > On Wed 10 Oct 2018 at 21:04:58 (-0400), bw wrote:
> > > > > I agree with this opinion, and also what Dan Ritter replied. Firefox
> > > > > is
> > > > > now unreliable on stretch and should be avoided
On Sat 13 Oct 2018 at 21:43:58 (-0400), bw wrote:
> On Thu, 11 Oct 2018, David Wright wrote:
> >
> > > My point
> > > was that is ff needs extensions to be "secure" or reliable, and if the
> > > only place to get them is from outside the debian repo, then logically,
> > > the pkg belongs in "co
On Tuesday 16 October 2018 13:11:45 Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 12:43:40PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > #1 is ssh -Y has been killed from jessie on. No excuse for doing it
> > and bug filing is ignored.
>
> I don't know what you mean by this. I just performed the following
>
On Tuesday 16 October 2018 12:48:21 to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 12:18:43PM -0400, Default User wrote:
> > On Tue, Oct 16, 2018, 12:12 Jonathan Dowland wrote:
> > > On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 11:18:10AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > >The packagers, who probably have a better
On 10/16/18 1:10 PM, Cindy-Sue Causey wrote:
> On 10/16/18, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
>> On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 11:51:48PM +, Matthew Crews
>> wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Currently I am running Stretch with XFCE (window manager is
>>> XFWM4). I presently use Xscreensaver for my screen saver.
>>>
On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 01:20:53PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 12:05:58PM -0400, Jude DaShiell wrote:
2) systemd is supposed to be a security improvement over systemv.
It's a reliability and management improvement, not a security improvement
Perhaps OP was referring t
On 10/16/18 8:57 PM, mick crane wrote:
> On 2018-10-16 18:11, Greg Wooledge wrote:
>> On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 12:43:40PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
>>> #1 is ssh -Y has been killed from jessie on. No excuse for doing it and
>>> bug filing is ignored.
>>
>> I don't know what you mean by this. I
On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 06:48:21PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
See? and this is why we can't have nice things.
Spam filters and killfiles are nice things. If you hadn't fed that
troll, I would never have seen that line of their message.
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On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 12:43:40PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
You forget I'm a red hat ex-pat.
snip
I understand that a stretch version is being worked on,
snip
I haven't forgotten anything: I didn't know, I don't need to know, and
none of what you wrote in this mail seems to have any relevan
On Tue, 16 Oct 2018 16:54:48 +0100
Jonathan Dowland wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 11:18:10AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> >The packagers, who probably have a better overall view of just what
> >this thing called systemd is, should be speaking up to confirm or
> >dispel this rumor
>
> Why wa
Le Sun, 14 Oct 2018 10:23:15 -0400,
Dan Ritter a écrit :
> I have encountered no problems that can be attributed to my choice of
> init system.
Doing the same. Works fine, except the fact network interfaces that are
using DHCPCD but are unplugged slow down the boot process *a lot*.
I could only
Hi.
On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 01:36:06PM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 12:05:58PM -0400, Jude DaShiell wrote:
>
> > 2) systemd is supposed to be a security improvement over systemv.
>
> Do you know who told you that, or where it was written down?
It's true to some ext
On 2018-10-16 18:11, Greg Wooledge wrote:
On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 12:43:40PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
#1 is ssh -Y has been killed from jessie on. No excuse for doing it
and
bug filing is ignored.
I don't know what you mean by this. I just performed the following
experiment on my stretch w
On Tue 16/Oct/2018 17:52:15 +0200 Jonathan Dowland wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 04:18:52PM +0200, john doe wrote:
>> Hopefully, both parties (Debian/Devian) will come back to there senses
>> and will find a way to accomodate supporting Systemd and an alternative
>> init daemon.
>
> In the case
On Tue, Oct 16, 2018, 13:06 wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 12:18:43PM -0400, Default User wrote:
> > On Tue, Oct 16, 2018, 12:12 Jonathan Dowland wrote:
> >
> > > On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 11:18:10AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > >The packagers, who probably have a better overall view of just
On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 12:05:58PM -0400, Jude DaShiell wrote:
> 2) systemd is supposed to be a security improvement over systemv.
Do you know who told you that, or where it was written down?
-dsr-
On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 12:05:58PM -0400, Jude DaShiell wrote:
> Two I can think of now.
> 1) no more /etc/rc.d/ directory tree; now /usr/lib/systemd/ for scripts,
Debian uses /lib/systemd/ instead of /usr/lib/systemd/. Otherwise, yes.
> 2) systemd is supposed to be a security improvement over s
On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 12:43:40PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> #1 is ssh -Y has been killed from jessie on. No excuse for doing it and
> bug filing is ignored.
I don't know what you mean by this. I just performed the following
experiment on my stretch workstation (wooledg), in communications wi
On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 12:18:43PM -0400, Default User wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 16, 2018, 12:12 Jonathan Dowland wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 11:18:10AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > >The packagers, who probably have a better overall view of just what this
> > >thing called systemd is, shoul
On Tue, 16 Oct 2018 05:59:36 +
Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming
wrote:
> Good afternoon from Singapore,
>
> What are the differences between systemd and non-systemd Linux
> distros?
Between disros themselves? Little except the init system. As an
example, when I first installed Stretch, it de
On Tuesday 16 October 2018 11:54:48 Jonathan Dowland wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 11:18:10AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> >The packagers, who probably have a better overall view of just what
> > this thing called systemd is, should be speaking up to confirm or
> > dispel this rumor
>
> Why was
On Tue, Oct 16, 2018, 12:12 Jonathan Dowland wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 11:18:10AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> >The packagers, who probably have a better overall view of just what this
> >thing called systemd is, should be speaking up to confirm or dispel this
> >rumor
>
> Why waste time g
systemd now has its own wikipedia page and its repository is on
freedesktop.org. By now it's already 8 years old and links on that
wikipedia page are available for systemv and bsd as well. Probably lots
more informative.
--
On Tuesday 16 October 2018 11:37:44 Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 11:28:44AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > Since leaving a sudo -i laying about is considered a security
> > breach, I'm amazed that the -i option doesn't accept a timeout. Say
> > in seconds, as if you think it will
Two I can think of now.
1) no more /etc/rc.d/ directory tree; now /usr/lib/systemd/ for scripts,
2) systemd is supposed to be a security improvement over systemv.
I do not now nor have I ever worked for Microsoft for that reason I do not
tell planes circling around a tower building on the Microsoft
On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 11:18:10AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
The packagers, who probably have a better overall view of just what this
thing called systemd is, should be speaking up to confirm or dispel this
rumor
Why waste time giving credence to nonsense? Those who are prepared to
believe tha
On Tuesday 16 October 2018 11:37:44 Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 11:28:44AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > Since leaving a sudo -i laying about is considered a security
> > breach, I'm amazed that the -i option doesn't accept a timeout. Say
> > in seconds, as if you think it will
On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 04:18:52PM +0200, john doe wrote:
Hopefully, both parties (Debian/Devian) will come back to there senses
and will find a way to accomodate supporting Systemd and an alternative
init daemon.
In the case of Debian, I don't think anyone is short of their senses.
Those who w
On Tuesday, October 16, 2018 03:54:56 AM Morel Bérenger wrote:
> Le Tue, 16 Oct 2018 05:59:36 +,
> Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming a
>
> écrit :
> > What are the differences between systemd and non-systemd Linux
> > distros?
> I know those replies are vague, but so is your question, and I tr
On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 11:28:44AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> Since leaving a sudo -i laying about is considered a security breach, I'm
> amazed that the -i option doesn't accept a timeout. Say in seconds, as
> if you think it will take 5 minutes to do the job as root, sudo -i300,
> at the end
On Tuesday 16 October 2018 05:23:33 to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 10:01:46AM +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> > If sysvinit was removed from Debian, than this would increase the
> > amount of work for Devuan quite significantly, because lots of
> > individual Debian
On Tuesday 16 October 2018 05:56:31 Jonathan Dowland wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 10:09:39AM +0200, Martin wrote:
> >> sudo su - www-data -s /bin/sh
> >
> >Don't use sudo with su. It is evil.
> >You want to use 'sudo -i' in this case.
>
> Fascism is evil. This is just unnecessary.
>
> (I'm
On 10/16/18, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 03:28:33PM +0300, Tommi Höynälänmaa wrote:
>> How can I file a follow-up request to a RFS bug?
> What is a follow-up request?
Maybe Tommi means something along the lines of where I've seen you all
use "ping", kind of as a reminder?
On 10/16/2018 11:01 AM, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 09:58:30AM -0400, Kenneth Parker wrote:
>> On Mon, Oct 15, 2018, 9:42 AM Jonathan Dowland wrote:
>>> It's currently at risk by a lack of maintainers for the sysvinit
>>> package.
>>
>> Does this mean that Devuan is also at r
Seems I am in dependancy hell. Any way out?
My system: Debian 9.5, Apache 2.4.25, PHP 7.2
php7.2-fpm enabled.
I have several virtual hosts, that run as different users. So I need mpm_itk in
my vhost
config:
ERROR: The following modules depend on mpm_prefork and need to be disabled
On Tue, 16 Oct 2018 07:42:56 +0200
john doe wrote:
Hello john,
>I'll never understand why being so drastic is a good idea when you can
>simply disable it:
Combinations of the following come to mind. Could well be more. No
doubt, you and others can come up with reasons to keep it. We all mak
Le Tue, 16 Oct 2018 05:59:36 +,
Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming a
écrit :
> Good afternoon from Singapore,
Hello.
> What are the differences between systemd and non-systemd Linux
> distros?
Hard question, but you might found some informations if you dig in the
archives of this ML. However,
On 10/16/18, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 11:51:48PM +, Matthew Crews wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Currently I am running Stretch with XFCE (window manager is XFWM4). I
>> presently use Xscreensaver for my screen saver. Caffeine indicator
>> doesn't work with XFCE as far as I'v
Am 16.10.18 um 11:24 schrieb Adam Weremczuk:
> Hi Martin,
>
> I suffered this pain earlier this morning on Ubuntu 16.04.
>
> For Lightning you might tried to substitute it with "xul-ext-lightning" but I
> ended up removing Thunderbird and rolled back to 52.9
> (https://ubuntu.pkgs.org/16.04/ubu
Am 16.10.18 um 11:56 schrieb Jonathan Dowland:
> On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 10:09:39AM +0200, Martin wrote:
>>> sudo su - www-data -s /bin/sh
>>
>> Don't use sudo with su. It is evil.
>> You want to use 'sudo -i' in this case.
>
> Fascism is evil. This is just unnecessary.
Good point.
>
> (I'm
On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 10:09:39AM +0200, Martin wrote:
sudo su - www-data -s /bin/sh
Don't use sudo with su. It is evil.
You want to use 'sudo -i' in this case.
Fascism is evil. This is just unnecessary.
(I'm guilty of still typing "sudo su -" via muscle memory even after
your messages
Hi Martin,
I suffered this pain earlier this morning on Ubuntu 16.04.
For Lightning you might tried to substitute it with "xul-ext-lightning"
but I ended up removing Thunderbird and rolled back to 52.9
(https://ubuntu.pkgs.org/16.04/ubuntu-updates-main-amd64/thunderbird_52.9.1+build3-0ubuntu0.
On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 10:01:46AM +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
[...]
> If sysvinit was removed from Debian, than this would increase the amount
> of work for Devuan quite significantly, because lots of individual
> Debian packages that currently implement sysvinit support would slowly
> start
On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 09:58:30AM -0400, Kenneth Parker wrote:
On Mon, Oct 15, 2018, 9:42 AM Jonathan Dowland wrote:
It's currently at risk by a lack of maintainers for the sysvinit
package.
Does this mean that Devuan is also at risk?
I can merely speculate. I know very little about Devuan
On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 09:17:41AM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
Sorry for the very unspecific answers. If you'd like more specific
ones, I'd advise to pose more specific questions.
Indeed, likewise it's hard to add much to such an un-specific question,
all I can think of to add is:
On Tue, O
On Tue, 16 Oct 2018 10:06:39 +0200
Martin wrote:
> Am 16.10.18 um 07:31 schrieb steve:
> > Hi there,
> >
> > Purged and then reinstalled apache2 and when I want to start
> > apache2, here's what I get:
> >
> > # systemctl status apache2.service
>
> What is your 'id'?
>
> > ● apache2.service
Hi list members,
with the latest Thunderbird update (60.2.1) some plugins are broken. E.g. Color
Folders (last change July 2014), FireTray (last change May 2016, discontinued),
Lightning (last change May 2017).
Does some of you have a clue, if one should just forget about those plugins or
what
Am 16.10.18 um 08:39 schrieb Steve Kemp:
>>
>> ls -l /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
>> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 7224 jun 2 10:01 /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[...]
> sudo su - www-data -s /bin/sh
Don't use sudo with su. It is evil.
You want to use 'sudo -i' in this case.
[...]
Am 16.10.18 um 07:31 schrieb steve:
> Hi there,
>
> Purged and then reinstalled apache2 and when I want to start apache2,
> here's what I get:
>
> # systemctl status apache2.service
What is your 'id'?
> ● apache2.service - The Apache HTTP Server
> Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/apache2.s
Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 07:28:46PM +0200, deloptes wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>> might be that indeed the local controller has something, because on
>> office pc with windows today it was working just fine.
>>
> It could be the physical ports themselves. I have my desktop syst
On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 05:59:36AM +, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote:
> Good afternoon from Singapore,
>
> What are the differences between systemd and non-systemd Linux distros?
The difference is mainly in the init system.
> Is systemd implemented in all the latest Linux distros?
In
Hi,
Will wrote:
> There are a few Windows/DOS utilites to flash/probe the drive firmware. I
> was just wondering if there was any kind of Linux equivalent.
If i google "dvd diagnostic software" i get advertising for data recovery
tools, which look mostly like hot air wrapped around normal SCSI c
On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 11:51:48PM +, Matthew Crews wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Currently I am running Stretch with XFCE (window manager is XFWM4). I
> presently use Xscreensaver for my screen saver. Caffeine indicator
> doesn't work with XFCE as far as I've been able to tell, so if I want to
> tempo
Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
>
> It could be the physical ports themselves. I have my desktop system in
> a 15+ year old case. As of a few years ago, the front USB ports got to
> the point where the number of devices they could not recognize (I would
> get the same log messages) annoyed me enough
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