Re: ACPI BIOS ERROR

2018-09-22 Thread steve
Le 22-09-2018, à 20:23:28 +0200, deloptes a écrit : steve wrote: Should I open a ticket in the BTS? you have latest BIOS installed? Yes I have.

Re: Debugging mysterious freeze / crash

2018-09-22 Thread Alexander V. Makartsev
On 23.09.2018 07:51, Celejar wrote: > Hi, > > I've been experiencing a great deal of frustration recently with > intermittent freezes / crashes on my Debian Sid system (a Lenovo > W550s). The symptoms are that the screen totally freezes and the system > becomes completely unresponsive (even ssh att

Re: where does fvwm get its xterm icon?

2018-09-22 Thread David Wright
On Sat 22 Sep 2018 at 07:55:12 (+0200), Nicolas George wrote: > David Wright (2018-09-21): > > That sounds like a different problem: a race between fvwm and the > > xterms over which order they start in. The manner in which the race > > affects me is that my (open) xterms get mapped all over the pl

Re: can apt-daily and apt-daily-upgrade be purged from Buster?

2018-09-22 Thread Ben Caradoc-Davies
On 23/09/2018 13:12, Felix Miata wrote: What installs/owns these systemd pseudo-programs? I want them eradicated, not simply disabled. One or more of them by default lock package management at boot so that I can't proceed with any of the operations that are the reason I booted. These are provid

Re: Permission issues - operator error?

2018-09-22 Thread David Christensen
On 9/22/18 5:30 PM, Richard Owlett wrote: On 09/22/2018 03:40 PM, David Christensen wrote: On 9/22/18 7:28 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: On 09/22/2018 08:44 AM, Dan Purgert wrote: Richard Owlett wrote: I'm assuming operator problem as I get same symptoms on: two laptops each running differen

Debugging mysterious freeze / crash

2018-09-22 Thread Celejar
Hi, I've been experiencing a great deal of frustration recently with intermittent freezes / crashes on my Debian Sid system (a Lenovo W550s). The symptoms are that the screen totally freezes and the system becomes completely unresponsive (even ssh attempts from another machine fail), and the only

can apt-daily and apt-daily-upgrade be purged from Buster?

2018-09-22 Thread Felix Miata
What installs/owns these systemd pseudo-programs? I want them eradicated, not simply disabled. One or more of them by default lock package management at boot so that I can't proceed with any of the operations that are the reason I booted. -- "Wisdom is supreme; therefore get wisdom. Whatever else

Re: Permission issues - operator error?

2018-09-22 Thread Richard Owlett
On 09/22/2018 03:40 PM, David Christensen wrote: On 9/22/18 7:28 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: On 09/22/2018 08:44 AM, Dan Purgert wrote: Richard Owlett wrote: I'm assuming operator problem as I get same symptoms on: two laptops each running different Debian releases (6.8, 9.1).    [both

Re: Why does Debian allow all incoming traffic by default

2018-09-22 Thread mick crane
On 2018-09-21 18:29, Subhadip Ghosh wrote: Debian is a Universal OS. I wouldn't say whatever you said, doesn't make sense. I wish there were an easier way to know about it when I started using the OS, something to warn me that I need to configure the firewall to suit my needs. Maybe because I c

Re: Why does Debian allow all incoming traffic by default

2018-09-22 Thread Simon Kengelbacher
Am Samstag, den 22.09.2018, 23:58 +0200 schrieb Pascal Hambourg: > Le 22/09/2018 à 23:35, Simon Kengelbacher a écrit : > > Am Samstag, den 22.09.2018, 22:36 +0200 schrieb to...@tuxteam.de: > > > On Sat, Sep 22, 2018 at 04:15:42PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > > > > They have over the last two

Re: Why does Debian allow all incoming traffic by default

2018-09-22 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 22/09/2018 à 23:35, Simon Kengelbacher a écrit : Am Samstag, den 22.09.2018, 22:36 +0200 schrieb to...@tuxteam.de: On Sat, Sep 22, 2018 at 04:15:42PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: They have over the last two "upgrades" from wheezy to jessie and on to stretch, totally disabled any attempts to f

Re: Why does Debian allow all incoming traffic by default

2018-09-22 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 22/09/2018 à 20:27, Dan Ritter a écrit : On Sat, Sep 22, 2018 at 04:52:40PM +0200, Pascal Hambourg wrote: It does not matter what you entire point was, and I do not expect you to describe a complete firewall policy. *You* exposed a supposedly default firewall policy which I happened to find

Re: Why does Debian allow all incoming traffic by default

2018-09-22 Thread Simon Kengelbacher
Am Samstag, den 22.09.2018, 22:36 +0200 schrieb to...@tuxteam.de: > On Sat, Sep 22, 2018 at 04:15:42PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > [...] > > > They have over the last two "upgrades" from wheezy to jessie and on > > to > > stretch, totally disabled any attempts to forward x to another > > mach

Re: Why does Debian allow all incoming traffic by default

2018-09-22 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 22/09/2018 à 22:16, Stefan Monnier a écrit : [...] The benefit is that one cannot pinpoint the real attacker, of course. Isn't the same benefit provided by just forging the source address ? If all the routers in the path play along... but then, they are all broken. This condition must als

Re: Why does Debian allow all incoming traffic by default

2018-09-22 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 22 September 2018 16:36:15 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Sat, Sep 22, 2018 at 04:15:42PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > [...] > > > They have over the last two "upgrades" from wheezy to jessie and on > > to stretch, totally disabled any attempts to forward x to another > > machine, > >

Re: Permission issues - operator error?

2018-09-22 Thread David Christensen
On 9/22/18 7:28 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: On 09/22/2018 08:44 AM, Dan Purgert wrote: Richard Owlett wrote: I'm assuming operator problem as I get same symptoms on: two laptops each running different Debian releases (6.8, 9.1).    [both using MATE desktop] two different media (32Gb

Re: Why does Debian allow all incoming traffic by default

2018-09-22 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, Sep 22, 2018 at 04:15:42PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: [...] > They have over the last two "upgrades" from wheezy to jessie and on to > stretch, totally disabled any attempts to forward x to another machine, Just a tip: there's "ssh -X" or

Re: Why does Debian allow all incoming traffic by default

2018-09-22 Thread Stefan Monnier
> [...] >> >The benefit is that one cannot pinpoint the real attacker, of course. >> Isn't the same benefit provided by just forging the source address ? > If all the routers in the path play along... but then, they are all > broken. There's also the fact that all those RST packets can come from a

Re: Why does Debian allow all incoming traffic by default

2018-09-22 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 22 September 2018 14:27:44 Dan Ritter wrote: > On Sat, Sep 22, 2018 at 04:52:40PM +0200, Pascal Hambourg wrote: > > Le 22/09/2018 à 13:31, Dan Ritter a écrit : > > > On Sat, Sep 22, 2018 at 12:55:24PM +0200, Pascal Hambourg wrote: > > > > I do not see how all this replies to my questio

Re: Why does Debian allow all incoming traffic by default

2018-09-22 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, Sep 22, 2018 at 12:58:02PM +0200, Pascal Hambourg wrote: > Le 22/09/2018 à 11:51, Reco a écrit : [...] > >The benefit is that one cannot pinpoint the real attacker, of course. > > Isn't the same benefit provided by just forging the source ad

Re: netstat

2018-09-22 Thread rhkramer
Thanks! On Friday, September 21, 2018 02:10:40 PM Reco wrote: > On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 01:52:00PM -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > What is that telling me

Re: Why does Debian allow all incoming traffic by default

2018-09-22 Thread Dan Ritter
On Sat, Sep 22, 2018 at 04:52:40PM +0200, Pascal Hambourg wrote: > Le 22/09/2018 à 13:31, Dan Ritter a écrit : > > On Sat, Sep 22, 2018 at 12:55:24PM +0200, Pascal Hambourg wrote: > > > I do not see how all this replies to my question : > > This comment was intended to Gene Heskett. > > > > Why s

Re: ACPI BIOS ERROR

2018-09-22 Thread deloptes
steve wrote: > Should I open a ticket in the BTS? you have latest BIOS installed?

Re: Why does Debian allow all incoming traffic by default

2018-09-22 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 22 September 2018 10:52:40 Pascal Hambourg wrote: > Le 22/09/2018 à 13:31, Dan Ritter a écrit : > > On Sat, Sep 22, 2018 at 12:55:24PM +0200, Pascal Hambourg wrote: > >> I do not see how all this replies to my question : > > This comment was intended to Gene Heskett. > > >> Why should

[SOLVED] Re: kmail2 and TLS problem

2018-09-22 Thread Hans
Hi folks, nice of you, to try to help. However, this isssue is already solved and should be marked as solved. I updated libqt5network5 to the version in unstable and everything is workinmg again as it should. So this isssue is solved. Looks like a bug in testing, fixed in unstable. Againb, th

Re: kmail2 and TLS problem

2018-09-22 Thread Martin
Hi Hans, is this about SMTP or IMAP/POP? Does kmail/the server support StartTLS or SMTPS/IMAPS/POP3S? What does nmap tell you about that thing? Martin Am 12.09.2018 um 09:54 schrieb Hans: > Hi foilks, > after last update of debian/testing I got into a problem with TLS. > > I can not get acces

Re: kmail2 and TLS problem

2018-09-22 Thread mark
On Wednesday, September 12, 2018 3:54:11 AM EDT Hans wrote: > Hi foilks, > after last update of debian/testing I got into a problem with TLS. > > I can not get access to the mail servers running TLS. Also in the settings > menu of kmail, I can not scan the server. Message: Server not reachable. >

Re: Why does Debian allow all incoming traffic by default

2018-09-22 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 22/09/2018 à 13:11, Joe a écrit : On Sat, 22 Sep 2018 10:38:52 +0200 Pascal Hambourg wrote: Le 22/09/2018 à 09:39, Joe a écrit : Two layers of NAT work just fine, for anything but IPSec. 1) Even one single layer of NAT can cause trouble with other applications that IPSec : FTP, SIP...

Re: Why does Debian allow all incoming traffic by default

2018-09-22 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 22/09/2018 à 13:31, Dan Ritter a écrit : On Sat, Sep 22, 2018 at 12:55:24PM +0200, Pascal Hambourg wrote: I do not see how all this replies to my question : This comment was intended to Gene Heskett. Why should only TCP inbound responses be allowed ? What about UDP-based protocols, ping r

Re: Why does Debian allow all incoming traffic by default

2018-09-22 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 22/09/2018 à 15:39, Dan Purgert a écrit : Pascal Hambourg wrote: Le 21/09/2018 à 19:09, Dan Ritter a écrit : Let's suppose Debian installs a basic firewall by default. How basic? Let's say: - outbound: permit - forward: deny - inbound: accept NTP, DHCP, DNS, and any TCP p

RE: where does fvwm get its xterm icon?

2018-09-22 Thread Kleene, Steven (kleenesj)
On September 21, 2018 11:35 PM, David Wright wrote: >> That sounds like a different problem: a race between fvwm and the >> xterms over which order they start in. The manner in which the race >> affects me is that my (open) xterms get mapped all over the place >> instead of where I want them place

Re: Permission issues - operator error?

2018-09-22 Thread Richard Owlett
On 09/22/2018 08:44 AM, Dan Purgert wrote: Richard Owlett wrote: I'm assuming operator problem as I get same symptoms on: two laptops each running different Debian releases (6.8, 9.1). [both using MATE desktop] two different media (32Gb USB flash, 240 Gb USB SSD). Logged in as

Re: Permission issues - operator error?

2018-09-22 Thread Dan Purgert
Richard Owlett wrote: > I'm assuming operator problem as I get same symptoms on: > two laptops each running different Debian releases (6.8, 9.1). > [both using MATE desktop] > two different media (32Gb USB flash, 240 Gb USB SSD). > > Logged in as 'richard' I use Gparted (providing roo

Re: Why does Debian allow all incoming traffic by default

2018-09-22 Thread Dan Purgert
Pascal Hambourg wrote: > Le 21/09/2018 à 19:09, Dan Ritter a écrit : >> >> Let's suppose Debian installs a basic firewall by default. How >> basic? Let's say: >> >> - outbound: permit >> - forward: deny >> - inbound: accept NTP, DHCP, DNS, and any TCP packet which is a >>re

Re: Why does Debian allow all incoming traffic by default

2018-09-22 Thread Dan Purgert
Reco wrote: > Hi. > > On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 09:59:40PM -, Dan Purgert wrote: >> Reco wrote: >> [...] >> >> So this is why a wise guy buys an industrial pc for 200 US or wrt capable >> >> router for 20-30 US installs linux and makes a good firewall then puts it >> >> between ISP and his

Permission issues - operator error?

2018-09-22 Thread Richard Owlett
I'm assuming operator problem as I get same symptoms on: two laptops each running different Debian releases (6.8, 9.1). [both using MATE desktop] two different media (32Gb USB flash, 240 Gb USB SSD). Logged in as 'richard' I use Gparted (providing root password) to repartition the dri

Re: Why does Debian allow all incoming traffic by default

2018-09-22 Thread Dan Ritter
On Sat, Sep 22, 2018 at 12:55:24PM +0200, Pascal Hambourg wrote: > I do not see how all this replies to my question : > > Why should only TCP inbound responses be allowed ? What about UDP-based > protocols, ping replies (ICMP echo reply), ICMP error messages, and so on ? Given that my entire poin

Re: Why does Debian allow all incoming traffic by default

2018-09-22 Thread Reco
Hi. On Sat, Sep 22, 2018 at 12:58:02PM +0200, Pascal Hambourg wrote: > Le 22/09/2018 à 11:51, Reco a écrit : > > > > On Sat, Sep 22, 2018 at 09:46:35AM +0200, Pascal Hambourg wrote: > > > Le 21/09/2018 à 20:32, Reco a écrit : > > > > > > > > Evil person makes a TCP connection to unprotec

Re: Why does Debian allow all incoming traffic by default

2018-09-22 Thread Joe
On Sat, 22 Sep 2018 10:38:52 +0200 Pascal Hambourg wrote: > Le 22/09/2018 à 09:39, Joe a écrit : > > > > Two layers of NAT work just fine, for anything but IPSec. > > 1) Even one single layer of NAT can cause trouble with other > applications that IPSec : FTP, SIP... > Yes, but one can reas

Re: Why does Debian allow all incoming traffic by default

2018-09-22 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 22/09/2018 à 12:05, Henning Follmann a écrit : If you send a TCP package to a computer not listening it will send a ICMP error back. No, standard behaviour is to send a TCP RST back. An ICMP error may be sent back for other protocols such as UDP.

Re: Why does Debian allow all incoming traffic by default

2018-09-22 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 22/09/2018 à 11:51, Reco a écrit : On Sat, Sep 22, 2018 at 09:46:35AM +0200, Pascal Hambourg wrote: Le 21/09/2018 à 20:32, Reco a écrit : Evil person makes a TCP connection to unprotected host, but forges source IP. Host sends TCP RST to this forged IP, host acting as a 'reflector' to an a

Re: Why does Debian allow all incoming traffic by default

2018-09-22 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 22/09/2018 à 11:12, Gene Heskett a écrit : On Saturday 22 September 2018 03:34:45 Pascal Hambourg wrote: Le 21/09/2018 à 19:09, Dan Ritter a écrit : Let's suppose Debian installs a basic firewall by default. How basic? Let's say: - outbound: permit - forward: deny - inbou

Re: Why does Debian allow all incoming traffic by default

2018-09-22 Thread Reco
Hi. On Sat, Sep 22, 2018 at 06:05:01AM -0400, Henning Follmann wrote: > On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 09:32:45PM +0300, Reco wrote: > > Hi. > > > > On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 07:14:03PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > > On Fri 21 Sep 2018 at 19:25:22 +0300, Reco wrote: > > > > > > > Hi. > > >

Re: Why does Debian allow all incoming traffic by default

2018-09-22 Thread Henning Follmann
On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 09:32:45PM +0300, Reco wrote: > Hi. > > On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 07:14:03PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > On Fri 21 Sep 2018 at 19:25:22 +0300, Reco wrote: > > > > > Hi. > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 08:55:21AM -0400, Henning Follmann wrote: > > > > On Fri, Sep 21,

Re: Why does Debian allow all incoming traffic by default

2018-09-22 Thread Reco
Hi. On Sat, Sep 22, 2018 at 09:46:35AM +0200, Pascal Hambourg wrote: > Le 21/09/2018 à 20:32, Reco a écrit : > > > > Evil person makes a TCP connection to unprotected host, but forges > > source IP. Host sends TCP RST to this forged IP, host acting as a > > 'reflector' to an attack. And b

Re: Why does Debian allow all incoming traffic by default

2018-09-22 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 22 September 2018 03:34:45 Pascal Hambourg wrote: > Le 21/09/2018 à 19:09, Dan Ritter a écrit : > > Let's suppose Debian installs a basic firewall by default. How > > basic? Let's say: > > > > - outbound: permit > > - forward: deny > > - inbound: accept NTP, DHCP, DNS, a

ACPI BIOS ERROR

2018-09-22 Thread steve
Hi, Almost sure nobody will have a solution, but for the sake of it, I'll document it here. dmesg | grep -i error [0.004000] [Firmware Bug]: TSC ADJUST differs within socket(s), fixing all errors [0.196456] ACPI BIOS Error (bug): Failure creating [\_SB.INTS], AE_ALREADY_EXISTS (2018053

Re: [SOLVED] Re: Yet another UEFI/BIOS question

2018-09-22 Thread steve
Le 22-09-2018, à 10:07:36 +0200, Pascal Hambourg a écrit : Le 22/09/2018 à 06:58, steve a écrit : Because what I finally did is install a fresh Debian on another device (using GPT) and the ACPI errors still were there. In legacy mode (with a BIOS boot partition) or EFI mode (with an EFI sy

Re: Why does Debian allow all incoming traffic by default

2018-09-22 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 22/09/2018 à 09:39, Joe a écrit : Two layers of NAT work just fine, for anything but IPSec. 1) Even one single layer of NAT can cause trouble with other applications that IPSec : FTP, SIP... 2) IPSec works through NAT, provided that you enable UDP encapsulation aka NAT-T.

Re: [SOLVED] Re: Yet another UEFI/BIOS question

2018-09-22 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 22/09/2018 à 06:58, steve a écrit : Because what I finally did is install a fresh Debian on another device (using GPT) and the ACPI errors still were there. In legacy mode (with a BIOS boot partition) or EFI mode (with an EFI system partition) ? In EFI mode. The "Bios" is now fully in E

Re: Why does Debian allow all incoming traffic by default

2018-09-22 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 21/09/2018 à 20:32, Reco a écrit : Evil person makes a TCP connection to unprotected host, but forges source IP. Host sends TCP RST to this forged IP, host acting as a 'reflector' to an attack. And being a bad netizen at the same time. Evil person takes as many of such hosts as possible - an

Re: Why does Debian allow all incoming traffic by default

2018-09-22 Thread Joe
On Fri, 21 Sep 2018 18:04:59 -0400 songbird wrote: > Subhadip Ghosh wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I am using Debian and the recently I learned that a standard Debian > > installation allows all 3 types of traffics especially incoming by > > default. I know I can easily use iptables to tighten the rule

Re: Why does Debian allow all incoming traffic by default

2018-09-22 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 21/09/2018 à 19:09, Dan Ritter a écrit : Let's suppose Debian installs a basic firewall by default. How basic? Let's say: - outbound: permit - forward: deny - inbound: accept NTP, DHCP, DNS, and any TCP packet which is a response to an outbound packet Why should unsol

Re: Why does Debian allow all incoming traffic by default

2018-09-22 Thread Reco
Hi. On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 09:59:40PM -, Dan Purgert wrote: > Reco wrote: > > Hi. > > > > On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 11:18:36PM +0200, deloptes wrote: > >> Reco wrote: > >> > >> > So, in this regard Debian is imperfect, but at least they give you right > >> > tools to solve the prob