programs freeze in /

Hi all, In midnight commander if I go to the / directory mc freezes. This also happens in leafpad the cursor just stays spinning and nothing happens. Both mc and leathpad were started from a root console. I have 2 machine both on 9.5 and both do the same. Is there a fix for this? Thanks Gary.

Re: programs freeze in /

Hi. On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 03:57:42PM +1000, Gary Hodder wrote: > Hi all, > In midnight commander if I go to the / directory mc freezes. > This also happens in leafpad the cursor just stays spinning and nothing > happens. > Both mc and leathpad were started from a root console. > I have 2

programs freeze in /

Hi all, In midnight commander if I go to the / directory mc freezes. This also happens in leafpad the cursor just stays spinning and nothing happens. Both mc and leathpad were started from a root console. I have 2 machine both on 9.5 and both do the same. Is there a fix for this? Thanks Gary.

Re: [Buster]: KDE wierdness: missing window titlebars + more

Aug 27, 2018, 6:00 PM by cyaiple...@sitesplace.net: > I had that happen not too long ago in Stretch. I just rebooted and it was OK. > A reboot didn't do it for me, the issue still persist. > You may want to also check your settings in Display - Compositor. You may > have to change to a differen

Re: mailing list vs "the futur"

David writes: > I didn't know they were asking the ISP to *host* the newsgroups, just > to allow NNTP stuff to pass from whoever is hosting it to the user, > who pays for the usage they make of it. The user pays a fixed monthly fee and was promised a certain bandwidth (*bandwidth*, not monthly tot

Re: sometimes i go huh (grep result)

Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 10:36:12AM -0400, songbird wrote: >> me@ant(25)$ env | grep -F "-g" >> grep: invalid option -- 'g' > > You want either -- or -e. > > grep -F -- -g > grep -F -e -g i just found it interesting that after this many years of linux/unix i'd not remembere

Re: Autologin not working (lightdm, openbox)

On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 4:50 AM Alexandre Rossi wrote: > Hi, > > > Before anyone asks, i've looked all over the wiki and every other post > online so i'm not sure why this isn't working. When I start up my machine X > starts up fine. and it goes to the lightdm login screen, but it still makes > m

Re: iproute, NM and ifupdown

On Monday 27 August 2018 15:59:09 David Wright wrote: > On Sun 26 Aug 2018 at 14:24:23 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Sunday 26 August 2018 13:36:41 Pascal Hambourg wrote: > > > Le 26/08/2018 à 17:24, Gene Heskett a écrit : > > > > Most recently on a stretch install on a rock64 I had to erect

Re: mailing list vs "the futur"

On Monday 27 August 2018 13:07:27 David Wright wrote: > On Mon 27 Aug 2018 at 11:37:48 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Monday 27 August 2018 11:11:37 David Wright wrote: > > > On Sat 25 Aug 2018 at 14:27:38 (-0500), John Hasler wrote: > > > > David writes: > > > > > Or are you talking about so

Re: mailing list vs "the futur"

On Monday 27 August 2018 12:28:35 Dan Ritter wrote: > On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 11:37:48AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > That bandwidth limit is not on your side of the isp, its the > > bandwidth from the main trunk lines to the isp. NNTP is a huge > > bandwidth hog regardless of how much of it you

Re: [Buster]: KDE wierdness: missing window titlebars + more

On 08/27/2018 04:55 PM, local10 wrote: Hi, Am experiencing a wierd issue with KDE after installing kde-standard package. KDE starts fine but shows an almost completely empty desktop: no taskbar, no launcher, no clock... just in the upper right conner there's a small rectangle  that opens a

[Buster]: KDE wierdness: missing window titlebars + more

Hi, Am experiencing a wierd issue with KDE after installing kde-standard package. KDE starts fine but shows an almost completely empty desktop: no taskbar, no launcher, no clock... just in the upper right conner there's a small rectangle  that opens a menu allowing to add widgets and activities

Re: mailing list vs "the futur"

On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 04:13:30PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: > On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 12:28:35PM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 11:37:48AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > > > That bandwidth limit is not on your side of the isp, its the bandwidth > > > from the main trun

[SOLVED] Re: [Buster]: Can't start X: no screens found(EE)

Aug 27, 2018, 12:35 PM by mrma...@earthlink.net: > These suggest you are missing a firmware package for your Radeon HD 4200. > firmware-linux & firmware-linux-non-free are meta packages. Likely you only > need > firmware-amd-graphics and/or firmware-linux-free and/or firmware-misc-nonfree. > "fi

Re: mailing list vs "the futur"

On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 12:28:35PM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 11:37:48AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: That bandwidth limit is not on your side of the isp, its the bandwidth from the main trunk lines to the isp. NNTP is a huge bandwidth hog regardless of how much of it your i

Re: iproute, NM and ifupdown

On Sun 26 Aug 2018 at 14:24:23 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > On Sunday 26 August 2018 13:36:41 Pascal Hambourg wrote: > > Le 26/08/2018 à 17:24, Gene Heskett a écrit : > > > Most recently on a stretch install on a rock64 I had to erect > > > immutable attributes to resolv.conf after making it a re

Re: A reliable SIP registrar?

On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 10:52:35AM -0700, pe...@easthope.ca wrote: > Hi, > > For the Ekiga client in Debian, the Ekiga SIP registrar always works. > For other systems the Ekiga registrar can fail. Mikhail Zabaluev > comments in https://sourceforge.net/p/sofia-sip/bugs/102/ at > 2009-06-08, "

A reliable SIP registrar?

Hi, For the Ekiga client in Debian, the Ekiga SIP registrar always works. For other systems the Ekiga registrar can fail. Mikhail Zabaluev comments in https://sourceforge.net/p/sofia-sip/bugs/102/ at 2009-06-08, "The restriction imposed by the proxy is arbitrary. It does not follow any spec

Re: [Buster]: Can't start X: no screens found(EE)

On Mon, 27 Aug 2018 18:07:18 +0200 (CEST) local10 wrote: > Hi, > > Am trying to upgrade a Debian Wheezy PC to Buster. The PC was > successfully running Wheezy with KDE as desktop, in terms of hardware > there are no changes. Initially, sddm was intalled to start KDE but > that did not work for s

Targeted Global B2B Companies emails list

Hi, I just wanted to check if you would be interested in a list of Managed Service Providers (MSPs) and Managed Security Service Providers (MSSPs)? We also have the data intelligence of: • Managed Service Providers (MSP’s) – 25,000 unique companies • Managed Security Service Prov

Re: sometimes i go huh (grep result)

What's tripping you up is that some processing is being done by the shell before grep ever sees your pattern. Taking that into account, what grep is seeing is: songbird writes: > me@ant(25)$ env | grep -F "-g" grep -F -g > grep: invalid option -- 'g' > Usage: grep [OPTION]... PATTERN [FILE]...

Re: linux 4.19 scsi-mq default?

Hi. On Sun, Aug 26, 2018 at 07:47:54PM -0400, Boyan Penkov wrote: > Hello folks, > > Likely not the exact right list to ask, but likely someone here knows — did > scsi-mq by default make it into linux 4.19? > > http://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1807.0/02224.htm 4.19-rc1 has SCS

Re: processing order for configuration files in /etc/network/interfaces.d

Hi. On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 11:46:37AM -0500, David Wright wrote: > On Mon 27 Aug 2018 at 19:24:01 (+0300), Reco wrote: > > Hi. > > > > On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 12:01:23PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 06:41:25PM +0300, Reco wrote: > > > > Last sentence says

Re: mailing list vs "the futur"

On Mon 27 Aug 2018 at 11:37:48 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 27 August 2018 11:11:37 David Wright wrote: > > > On Sat 25 Aug 2018 at 14:27:38 (-0500), John Hasler wrote: > > > David writes: > > > > Or are you talking about some type of "shared channel" of which I > > > > have no knowled

VPS and network traffic

This isn't strictly a debian issue but perhaps there are enough people here running debian on VPSs that someone can explain... I configured monit on a low traffic 'stretch' VPS to alert me about upload or downloads that exceed 1.2MB in a ten minute period. For uploads it works. For downloads it

Re: processing order for configuration files in /etc/network/interfaces.d

On Mon 27 Aug 2018 at 19:24:01 (+0300), Reco wrote: > Hi. > > On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 12:01:23PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 06:41:25PM +0300, Reco wrote: > > > Last sentence says to me that wordexp output should be always sorted. > > > > This only tells us that

Cannot Install/Uninstall sendmail

Hi everyone, I'm having trouble installing/removing sendmail in Debian Sid (well, aptosid -- http://www.aptosid.com -- actually). I tried to install and it failed: https://pastebin.com/Qu2jRqsn 'apt -f install' did not fix it, nor did 'dpkg --configure -a'. Since it was not essential (and did n

Re: [Buster]: Can't start X: no screens found(EE)

local10 composed on 2018-08-27 18:07 (UTC+0200): > # grep "(EE)" .local/share/xorg/Xorg.0.log > (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. > [  1102.702] (EE) open /dev/dri/card0: No such file or directory > [  1102.702] (EE) open /dev/dri/card0: No such file or directory > [  1

Re: mailing list vs "the futur"

On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 11:37:48AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > That bandwidth limit is not on your side of the isp, its the bandwidth > from the main trunk lines to the isp. NNTP is a huge bandwidth hog > regardless of how much of it your isp accepts for spooling on local disk > to serve you

Re: processing order for configuration files in /etc/network/interfaces.d

Hi. On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 12:01:23PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 06:41:25PM +0300, Reco wrote: > > Last sentence says to me that wordexp output should be always sorted. > > This only tells us that it *reads* the config files in glob-sorted order. > And peeking

Re: sometimes i go huh (grep result)

On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 11:26:12AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 11:20:42AM -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > > env |grep [-]g > > Fails if there is a file named -g in the current directory, as that > matches the unquoted glob and causes it to expand. Also fails if failgl

Re: [Buster]: Can't start X: no screens found(EE)

Attached the correct log file. [ 1102.295] X.Org X Server 1.20.1 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 [ 1102.295] Build Operating System: Linux 4.9.0-7-amd64 x86_64 Debian [ 1102.295] Current Operating System: Linux tstsrv 4.17.0-3-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.17.17-1 (2018-08-18) x86_64 [ 1102.295] K

[Buster]: Can't start X: no screens found(EE)

Hi, Am trying to upgrade a Debian Wheezy PC to Buster. The PC was successfully running Wheezy with KDE as desktop, in terms of hardware there are no changes. Initially, sddm was intalled to start KDE but that did not work for some reason, so now I starting KDE manually with startx. Any ideas?

Re: processing order for configuration files in /etc/network/interfaces.d

On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 06:41:25PM +0300, Reco wrote: > Last sentence says to me that wordexp output should be always sorted. This only tells us that it *reads* the config files in glob-sorted order. And peeking into the actual source code of ifupdown, yes, it appears to do this. (File config.c s

Re: processing order for configuration files in /etc/network/interfaces.d

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 06:41:25PM +0300, Reco wrote: [...] > Assuming that glibc stays true to POSIX, 2001 standard - [1] says that: > > The wordexp() function [...] The words shall be in order as described > in the Shell and Utilities volume of IE

Re: processing order for configuration files in /etc/network/interfaces.d

Hi. On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 04:49:06PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 04:32:26PM +0300, Reco wrote: > > Hi. > > > > On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 09:08:19AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > Hm. Interfaces man page refers to wordexp(3), but this one doesn't say >

Re: mailing list vs "the futur"

On Monday 27 August 2018 11:11:37 David Wright wrote: > On Sat 25 Aug 2018 at 14:27:38 (-0500), John Hasler wrote: > > David writes: > > > Or are you talking about some type of "shared channel" of which I > > > have no knowledge? > > > > Cable providers may have a great many customers on a single

Re: Buster: ACPI Error: AE_NOT_FOUND, While resolving a named reference package element - LNKC (20180313/dspkginit-414)

Aug 27, 2018, 2:57 AM by b...@fineby.me.uk: > On Mon, 27 Aug 2018 03:49:14 +0200 (CEST) > local10 <> loca...@tutanota.com > > wrote: > > The two things are unrelated. The error on boot is "annoying but > harmless", according what I've read, after a *very* cursory sear

Re: sometimes i go huh (grep result)

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 11:19:25AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 10:36:12AM -0400, songbird wrote: > > me@ant(25)$ env | grep -F "-g" > > grep: invalid option -- 'g' > > You want either -- or -e. > > grep -F -- -g > grep -F -e

Re: sometimes i go huh (grep result)

songbird (2018-08-27): > me@ant(25)$ env | grep -F "-g" > grep: invalid option -- 'g' Maybe what you want is an explanation rather than just a solution. Quotes are for the shell: they protect arguments that contain special characters, so that commands get them as is. For example, you need to wri

Re: sometimes i go huh (grep result)

On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 11:20:42AM -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > env |grep [-]g Fails if there is a file named -g in the current directory, as that matches the unquoted glob and causes it to expand. Also fails if failglob is turned on, whether the file exists or not (fails differently in the

Re: mailing list vs "the futur"

On Monday, August 27, 2018 10:18:28 AM dekkz...@gmail.com wrote: > On 08/27, Dave Sherohman wrote: > >The only problem I can ever recall seeing with mailing lists and long > >threads is when people don't trim the posts they're replying to. > > Isn't that usually due to topic drift in which case br

Re: sometimes i go huh (grep result)

On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 10:36:12AM -0400, songbird wrote: > me@ant(25)$ env | grep -F "-g" > grep: invalid option -- 'g' > Usage: grep [OPTION]... PATTERN [FILE]... > Try 'grep --help' for more information. > me@ant(26)$ env | grep -F '-g' > grep: invalid option -- 'g' > Usage: grep [OPTION]... PAT

Re: sometimes i go huh (grep result)

On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 10:36:12AM -0400, songbird wrote: > me@ant(25)$ env | grep -F "-g" > grep: invalid option -- 'g' You want either -- or -e. grep -F -- -g grep -F -e -g

sometimes i go huh (grep result)

me@ant(25)$ env | grep -F "-g" grep: invalid option -- 'g' Usage: grep [OPTION]... PATTERN [FILE]... Try 'grep --help' for more information. me@ant(26)$ env | grep -F '-g' grep: invalid option -- 'g' Usage: grep [OPTION]... PATTERN [FILE]... Try 'grep --help' for more information. me@ant(27)$ env |

Re: mailing list vs "the futur"

On Sat 25 Aug 2018 at 14:27:38 (-0500), John Hasler wrote: > David writes: > > Or are you talking about some type of "shared channel" of which I have > > no knowledge? > > Cable providers may have a great many customers on a single cable with > large (but limited) bandwidth. Oh, like me, you mean

Re: why is the kernel "unsleeping" a HDD put to sleep with hdparm -Y ?

On Mon, 27 Aug 2018 19:48:18 +1000 Zenaan Harkness wrote: > So I have a 'spare' internal spinning rust bucket which I only use > for backups, and so most of the time when I'm not using it I put it > to sleep with: > > sudo hdparm -Y /dev/sda > > Unfortunately the kernel wakes the drive up again

Re: processing order for configuration files in /etc/network/interfaces.d

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 04:32:26PM +0300, Reco wrote: > Hi. > > On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 09:08:19AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > Hm. Interfaces man page refers to wordexp(3), but this one doesn't say > > > anything about sorted results > >

Re: Re: mailing list vs "the futur"

On 08/27, Dave Sherohman wrote: On Fri, Aug 24, 2018 at 07:23:15PM +0100, mick crane wrote: mailing list are great until one of the threads gets really, really, really long ...and then they're *REALLY* great. The only problem I can ever recall seeing with mailing lists and long threads is whe

Re: mailing list vs "the futur"

On Monday 27 August 2018 07:48:01 rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Monday, August 27, 2018 04:12:32 AM Dave Sherohman wrote: > > The only problem I can ever recall seeing with mailing lists and > > long threads is when people don't trim the posts they're replying > > to. > > That never happens on th

Re: df -h shows insufficient precision

On Sun, Aug 26, 2018 at 12:25:44PM +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote: df shows bytes, df -h shows only one decimal place, so e.g. on a 1.8TiB drive "1.6T" is the free space, but that resolution/ precision is insufficient. Insufficient for what?

Re: why is the kernel "unsleeping" a HDD put to sleep with hdparm -Y ?

On 2018-08-27 10:48, Zenaan Harkness wrote: So I have a 'spare' internal spinning rust bucket which I only use for backups, and so most of the time when I'm not using it I put it to sleep with: sudo hdparm -Y /dev/sda sorry cannot help but I have similar disk and this seems like a good idea.

Re: lots of issues with KDE after update

Hi HDV, yes, as I am doing full-ugrades nearly every day, I saw this issue very quick. But whenever I see an issue, I wait a few days before filing a bug. In many cases appeasring bugs are solved within a few days, maybe because the developer himself corrects his errors or someone elese found t

Re: processing order for configuration files in /etc/network/interfaces.d

Hi. On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 09:08:19AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > Hm. Interfaces man page refers to wordexp(3), but this one doesn't say > > anything about sorted results > > In the absence of such information, the best thing to conclude is that > the order is unspecified. It may be

Re: processing order for configuration files in /etc/network/interfaces.d

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 09:08:19AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 10:18:29AM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > On Sun, Aug 26, 2018 at 09:36:30PM +0300, Martin T wrote: > > > I'm using "source": > > > > Wait a sec... this is no

Re: processing order for configuration files in /etc/network/interfaces.d

On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 10:18:29AM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Sun, Aug 26, 2018 at 09:36:30PM +0300, Martin T wrote: > > I'm using "source": > > Wait a sec... this is not run-parts, then, but the shell builtin 'source' > you are using, like in: > > > source /etc/network/interfaces.d/* I

Re: lots of issues with KDE after update

On 2018-08-27 10:56, Hans wrote: > Hi folks, > > after lates upgrade of KDE in debian/testing, I found several issues. > > 1. Missing of all applications (icons) inm the taskbar > > 2. Missing of all status icons in the taskbar > > 3. Right mouse click in for desktop settimngs in desktop nbo mo

Re: why is the kernel "unsleeping" a HDD put to sleep with hdparm -Y ?

Zenaan Harkness writes: >So I have a 'spare' internal spinning rust bucket which I only use >for backups, and so most of the time when I'm not using it I put it >to sleep with: > >sudo hdparm -Y /dev/sda > >Unfortunately the kernel wakes the drive up again: > >Aug 27 19:44:40 eye kernel: ata1.00:

Re: mailing list vs "the futur"

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 07:48:01AM -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Monday, August 27, 2018 04:12:32 AM Dave Sherohman wrote: > > The only problem I can ever recall seeing with mailing lists and long > > threads is when people don't trim the posts

Re: mailing list vs "the futur"

On Monday, August 27, 2018 04:12:32 AM Dave Sherohman wrote: > The only problem I can ever recall seeing with mailing lists and long > threads is when people don't trim the posts they're replying to. That never happens on this list, does it (with tongue deeply in cheek).

Re: why is the kernel "unsleeping" a HDD put to sleep with hdparm -Y ?

On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 07:48:18PM +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > So I have a 'spare' internal spinning rust bucket which I only use > for backups, and so most of the time when I'm not using it I put it > to sleep with: > > sudo hdparm -Y /dev/sda > > Unfortunately the kernel wakes the drive up

why is the kernel "unsleeping" a HDD put to sleep with hdparm -Y ?

So I have a 'spare' internal spinning rust bucket which I only use for backups, and so most of the time when I'm not using it I put it to sleep with: sudo hdparm -Y /dev/sda Unfortunately the kernel wakes the drive up again: Aug 27 19:44:40 eye kernel: ata1.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr

lots of issues with KDE after update

Hi folks, after lates upgrade of KDE in debian/testing, I found several issues. 1. Missing of all applications (icons) inm the taskbar 2. Missing of all status icons in the taskbar 3. Right mouse click in for desktop settimngs in desktop nbo more working (so I can not add any widgests or chang

Re: Autologin not working (lightdm, openbox)

Hi, > Before anyone asks, i've looked all over the wiki and every other post online > so i'm not sure why this isn't working. When I start up my machine X starts > up fine. and it goes to the lightdm login screen, but it still makes me put > in the password. > > My user is in the autologin and

Re: processing order for configuration files in /etc/network/interfaces.d

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Aug 26, 2018 at 09:36:30PM +0300, Martin T wrote: > Hi David, > > > You need to post your evidence, starting with your /etc/network/interfaces > > file. You say you're using ifup, so we can perhaps discount this paragraph: > > > >Curre

Re: mailing list vs "the futur"

On Fri, Aug 24, 2018 at 07:23:15PM +0100, mick crane wrote: > mailing list are great until one of the threads gets really, really, really > long ...and then they're *REALLY* great. The only problem I can ever recall seeing with mailing lists and long threads is when people don't trim the posts th

Re: linux 4.19 scsi-mq default?

Hi Boyan, Am Montag, 27. August 2018 schrieb Boyan Penkov: > Hello folks, > > Likely not the exact right list to ask, but likely someone here knows — did > scsi-mq by default make it into linux 4.19? > > http://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1807.0/02224.html >

Autologin not working (lightdm, openbox)

Hey everyone. Before anyone asks, i've looked all over the wiki and every other post online so i'm not sure why this isn't working. When I start up my machine X starts up fine. and it goes to the lightdm login screen, but it still makes me put in the password. My user is in the autologin and nopas