Re: Installing package *NOT* in repository

2018-08-13 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 07:05:33PM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote: > On Mon, 13 Aug 2018 17:49:08 +0200 > wrote: [...] > > As I said already, dpkg does install dependencies. Actually, I don't > > know any (Debian) tool which wouldn't, by default. > >

Slow boot

2018-08-13 Thread Johann Spies
I can push the power on button on my laptop, go and make coffee and come back and wait a few minutes before I can work. The following services each takes longer than 10 seconds to activate: systemd-analyze blame 1min 21.617s apt-daily.service 1min 2.473s systemd-tmpfiles-setup.service

Re: Installing package *NOT* in repository

2018-08-13 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 13.08.18 06:47, Richard Owlett wrote: > PREAMBLE: > I've downloaded a .deb file. > I've recently done such an install but don't remember how. > Looking at the man pages for apt, apt-get, aptitude didn't help. > Couldn't come up with useful search term for wiki. > Eventually recalled "dpkg -i" wh

need help: some words is not easy to understand in /Bugs/server-request

2018-08-13 Thread Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희, 黃炳熙)
Hellow, i'm translating to Korean /Bugs section -- WWW. Though i try 3 times for reading again again, i don't understand what means. See below: #+BEGIN_SRC: text from /Bugs/server-request The Subject of the message is ignored, except for generating the Subject of the reply. #+END_SRC Help me, ple

Re: non-blocking stdin from bash

2018-08-13 Thread Richard Hector
On 14/08/18 02:40, Greg Wooledge wrote: > So, yeah. It's warranted. Perhaps. > Idiot. That bit isn't, though. Richard signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: Installing package *NOT* in repository

2018-08-13 Thread songbird
Richard Owlett wrote: > PREAMBLE: > I've downloaded a .deb file. > I've recently done such an install but don't remember how. > Looking at the man pages for apt, apt-get, aptitude didn't help. > Couldn't come up with useful search term for wiki. > Eventually recalled "dpkg -i" which worked. > > QU

Re: Installing package *NOT* in repository

2018-08-13 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Mon, 13 Aug 2018 17:49:08 +0200 wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 08:35:50AM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > On Mon, 13 Aug 2018 06:47:02 -0500 > > Richard Owlett wrote: > > > > > PREAMBLE: > > > I've downloaded a .deb file. > > > I've r

Re: USB2 or 3 WiFi dual band adapters

2018-08-13 Thread Ben Caradoc-Davies
On 12/08/18 15:12, Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote: I am using a TP-Link TL-WN722N (ath9k_htc). I have two. Inexpensive, high-gain antenna, quite reliable despite regular hard work. Since my broadband upgrade from ADSL to gigabit fibre three days ago, I can put greater load on my WiFi, and my TL-WN72

Re: Monitoring copy file security

2018-08-13 Thread Zenaan Harkness
(Please bottom post.) I'd have the program creating a file, either change file permissions after writing, or call/trigger some other/ "external" script (which you write) to do the tidy ups. Good luck, On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 11:34:40PM +0200, Ilyass Kaouam wrote: > Thank you for you all, > I wi

Re: Monitoring copy file security

2018-08-13 Thread Ilyass Kaouam
Thank you for you all, I will all this. For other friends, if you have other suggestions please do not hesitate :) Le lun. 13 août 2018 à 22:57, Roberto C. Sánchez a écrit : > On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 10:30:02PM +0200, Martin wrote: > > > > Oh, yes! How simple. Unfortunately, 'apt-cache search f

Re: USB2 or 3 WiFi dual band adapters

2018-08-13 Thread Michael Stone
On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 08:46:36AM +1200, Joel Wirāmu Pauling wrote: Huh? Intel cards are numerous and cheap - they come in PCIe / NGFF form factors (like the easily available ath) - get a PCIe/USB to MiniPCIe converter card for a few pennies off Aliexpress and you are in business. Everyone has

Re: Monitoring copy file security

2018-08-13 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 10:30:02PM +0200, Martin wrote: > > Oh, yes! How simple. Unfortunately, 'apt-cache search fam' returns 578 hits. > 'apt-cache search famd' gives zero. Not that smart naming I guess. > Try 'apt-cache pkgnames fam' instead. 'pkgnames' considers only package names, where '

Re: USB2 or 3 WiFi dual band adapters

2018-08-13 Thread Joel Wirāmu Pauling
Huh? Intel cards are numerous and cheap - they come in PCIe / NGFF form factors (like the easily available ath) - get a PCIe/USB to MiniPCIe converter card for a few pennies off Aliexpress and you are in business. On 14 August 2018 at 08:33, Michael Stone wrote: > On Wed, Aug 08, 2018 at 08:12:3

Re: USB2 or 3 WiFi dual band adapters

2018-08-13 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Aug 08, 2018 at 08:12:37AM -0700, tony mollica wrote: I need to find a good, reliable WiFi adapter.  I have an Alfa AWUS036ACH using a RTL8812au chip and there is support but it's unreliable.  Connects sometimes, mostly not.  My older adapters work but they're slow but maybe that's the co

Re: Monitoring copy file security

2018-08-13 Thread Martin
Am 13.08.2018 um 22:16 schrieb Thomas Schmitt: > Hi, > > Martin wrote: >> There is -or was, quite some time ago I've last seen this- a software called >> famd (File Alteration Monitor -> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_Alteration_Monitor). Looks like there is >> no .deb in a current repo, bu

Re: Monitoring copy file security

2018-08-13 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Martin wrote: > There is -or was, quite some time ago I've last seen this- a software called > famd (File Alteration Monitor -> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_Alteration_Monitor). Looks like there is > no .deb in a current repo, but may be the name has changes. Maybe this ? https://tr

Re: Monitoring copy file security

2018-08-13 Thread Martin
Am 13.08.2018 um 20:52 schrieb Ilyass Kaouam: > Hi, > > I have a database server in which I save the database (dump) > let say > /home/backup directory. > I would like to monitor this directory and find out if anyone is doing a cp > or mv or. > Any idea? > Thank you very much > There is -or

Re: Monitoring copy file security

2018-08-13 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 08:52:35PM +0200, Ilyass Kaouam wrote: >Hi, >I have a database server in which I save the database (dump) >let say /home/backup directory. >I would like to monitor this directory and find out if anyone is doing a >cp or mv or. >Any idea? >Than

Re: Monitoring copy file security

2018-08-13 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 08:52:35PM +0200, Ilyass Kaouam wrote: > I have a database server in which I save the database (dump) > let say > /home/backup directory. > I would like to monitor this directory and find out if anyone is doing a cp > or mv or. 1) Set the permissions correctly, so you

Monitoring copy file security

2018-08-13 Thread Ilyass Kaouam
Hi, I have a database server in which I save the database (dump) let say /home/backup directory. I would like to monitor this directory and find out if anyone is doing a cp or mv or. Any idea? Thank you very much

Re: Installing package *NOT* in repository

2018-08-13 Thread Brian
On Mon 13 Aug 2018 at 16:58:18 +, Curt wrote: > On 2018-08-13, Brian wrote: > >> > > >> > I really don't know what you're talking about, dpkg knows nothing about > >> > apt > >> > and its repositories, it can't install any dependency. > >> > >> You're right: it won't download & install dep

Re: Installing package *NOT* in repository

2018-08-13 Thread Curt
On 2018-08-13, Brian wrote: >> > >> > I really don't know what you're talking about, dpkg knows nothing about apt >> > and its repositories, it can't install any dependency. >> >> You're right: it won't download & install dependencies. It'll just >> list those and complain. > > This needn't be a

Re: Installing package *NOT* in repository

2018-08-13 Thread Brian
On Mon 13 Aug 2018 at 18:16:28 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 12:56:58PM -0300, Samuel Henrique wrote: > > > > I use gdebi to install local .deb files. It handles the dependencies, > > > > too. > > > > > > As I said already, dpkg does install dependencies. Actually, I don

Re: Installing package *NOT* in repository

2018-08-13 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 12:56:58PM -0300, Samuel Henrique wrote: > > > I use gdebi to install local .deb files. It handles the dependencies, > > > too. > > > > As I said already, dpkg does install dependencies. Actually, I don't > > know any (Debian) t

Re: Installing package *NOT* in repository

2018-08-13 Thread Samuel Henrique
> > I use gdebi to install local .deb files. It handles the dependencies, > > too. > > As I said already, dpkg does install dependencies. Actually, I don't > know any (Debian) tool which wouldn't, by default. I really don't know what you're talking about, dpkg knows nothing about apt and its repo

Re: Installing package *NOT* in repository

2018-08-13 Thread Brian
On Mon 13 Aug 2018 at 17:49:08 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 08:35:50AM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > On Mon, 13 Aug 2018 06:47:02 -0500 > > Richard Owlett wrote: > > > > > PREAMBLE: > > > I've downloaded a .deb file. > > > I've recently done such an install but don

Re: Installing package *NOT* in repository

2018-08-13 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 08:35:50AM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote: > On Mon, 13 Aug 2018 06:47:02 -0500 > Richard Owlett wrote: > > > PREAMBLE: > > I've downloaded a .deb file. > > I've recently done such an install but don't remember how. > > Looking a

Re: Installing package *NOT* in repository

2018-08-13 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Mon, 13 Aug 2018 06:47:02 -0500 Richard Owlett wrote: > PREAMBLE: > I've downloaded a .deb file. > I've recently done such an install but don't remember how. > Looking at the man pages for apt, apt-get, aptitude didn't help. > Couldn't come up with useful search term for wiki. > Eventually rec

Re: non-blocking stdin from bash

2018-08-13 Thread Dan Purgert
Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 02:58:54PM -, Dan Purgert wrote: >> Greg Wooledge wrote: >> > [...] >> > It's absolutely warranted. You changed the question, and then you >> > changed the question AGAIN.. >> >> This reminds me of bashphorisms 1 through 3. Although, I guess the

Re: non-blocking stdin from bash

2018-08-13 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 02:58:54PM -, Dan Purgert wrote: > Greg Wooledge wrote: > > [...] > > It's absolutely warranted. You changed the question, and then you changed > > the question AGAIN. > > This reminds me of bashphorisms 1 through 3. Although, I guess they're > more related to the IRC

Re: non-blocking stdin from bash

2018-08-13 Thread Dan Purgert
Greg Wooledge wrote: > [...] > It's absolutely warranted. You changed the question, and then you changed > the question AGAIN. This reminds me of bashphorisms 1 through 3. Although, I guess they're more related to the IRC channel. -- |_|O|_| Registered Linux user #585947 |_|_|O| Github: https

Re: non-blocking stdin from bash

2018-08-13 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Mon, 2018-08-13 at 10:40 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 10:34:40AM -0400, Jim Popovitch wrote: > > On Mon, 2018-08-13 at 08:59 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > On Sat, Aug 11, 2018 at 06:08:34PM -0400, Jim Popovitch wrote: > > > > What's the best way to grab anything that

Re: non-blocking stdin from bash

2018-08-13 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 10:34:40AM -0400, Jim Popovitch wrote: > On Mon, 2018-08-13 at 08:59 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Sat, Aug 11, 2018 at 06:08:34PM -0400, Jim Popovitch wrote: > > > What's the best way to grab anything that's in stdin into a > > > variable inside a bash script, but won'

Re: non-blocking stdin from bash

2018-08-13 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Mon, 2018-08-13 at 08:59 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Sat, Aug 11, 2018 at 06:08:34PM -0400, Jim Popovitch wrote: > > What's the best way to grab anything that's in stdin into a > > variable inside a bash script, but won't block if stdin is null? > > On Sun, Aug 12, 2018 at 01:57:09PM -0400

Re: Re: question about the kernel

2018-08-13 Thread deloptes
dekkz...@gmail.com wrote: > On 08/10, deloptes wrote: >>songbird wrote: >> >>> the debian processes are done via the kernel >>> team and so you can also follow that mailing list >>> (i read via gmane and usenet). >> >>And you can always do "make deb-pkg" on the source and produce a ready for >>use

Re: mailing list vs "the futur"

2018-08-13 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 03:53:18PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 09:24:44AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Sat, Aug 11, 2018 at 03:26:16PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > [2] Although with the years, I am more and more prone to what I call > > >tomas's bastar

Re: Installing package *NOT* in repository

2018-08-13 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 07:28:20AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 08/13/2018 06:59 AM, Joe wrote: > > On Mon, 13 Aug 2018 06:47:02 -0500 > > Richard Owlett wrote: > > > > > PREAMBLE: > > > I've downloaded a .deb file. > > > I've recently done such an install but don't remember how. > > > Looki

Re: mailing list vs "the futur"

2018-08-13 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 10:16:17AM -, Dan Purgert wrote: > Miles Fidelman wrote: > > [...] > > Forwarding by email is about the only universal way to share > > stuff, or to move it from some service or another to one's personal > > storage (I can't tell you how often I email stuff to myself).

Re: mailing list vs "the futur"

2018-08-13 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 09:24:44AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Sat, Aug 11, 2018 at 03:26:16PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > [2] Although with the years, I am more and more prone to what I call > >tomas's bastard: "Any sufficiently advanc

Re: Installing package *NOT* in repository

2018-08-13 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 12:54:16PM +, Matthew Crews wrote: > On 8/13/18 4:47 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: > > PREAMBLE: > > I've downloaded a .deb file. > > I've recently done such an install but don't remember how. > > Looking at the man pages for ap

Re: New su behavior in util-linux 2.32

2018-08-13 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2018-08-13 14:06 +0100, Darac Marjal wrote: > Actually, util-linux is distributed by the Linux Kernel Organization > (i.e. the folks at kernel.org). So, yes, Debian has to match what Red > Hat does inasmuch as Red Hat uses a Linux kernel and so does > Debian. It just makes sense to use the kern

Re: mailing list vs "the futur"

2018-08-13 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Aug 11, 2018 at 03:26:16PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > [2] Although with the years, I am more and more prone to what I call >tomas's bastard: "Any sufficiently advanced malice can't be >distinguished from stupidity" -- a kind of unholy cross-over >between Hanlon's Razor and

Re: /etc/alternatives feedback for presentation

2018-08-13 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Aug 11, 2018 at 05:28:37PM -0500, Ryan Nowakowski wrote: > For example if I set the EDITOR env var how does > that interact with update-alternatives when I run visudo? The VISUAL or EDITOR variable takes precedence, if one of them is set. If neither one is set, then visudo uses its compile

Re: New su behavior in util-linux 2.32

2018-08-13 Thread Darac Marjal
On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 08:43:12AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Sat, Aug 11, 2018 at 11:41:34AM +0200, Pétùr wrote: The new 'su' is useless for me because it cannot launch root program. I did the modification in /etc/login.defs and restore the previous behavior. However I am concern with the s

Re: non-blocking stdin from bash

2018-08-13 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Aug 11, 2018 at 06:08:34PM -0400, Jim Popovitch wrote: > What's the best way to grab anything that's in stdin into a variable > inside a bash script, but won't block if stdin is null? On Sun, Aug 12, 2018 at 01:57:09PM -0400, Jim Popovitch wrote: > Interesting. I'm using it via a cron scr

Re: Installing package *NOT* in repository

2018-08-13 Thread Joe
On Mon, 13 Aug 2018 07:28:20 -0500 Richard Owlett wrote: > On 08/13/2018 06:59 AM, Joe wrote: > > On Mon, 13 Aug 2018 06:47:02 -0500 > > Richard Owlett wrote: > > > >> PREAMBLE: > >> I've downloaded a .deb file. > >> I've recently done such an install but don't remember how. > >> Looking at t

Re: Installing package *NOT* in repository

2018-08-13 Thread Matthew Crews
On 8/13/18 4:47 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: > PREAMBLE: > I've downloaded a .deb file. > I've recently done such an install but don't remember how. > Looking at the man pages for apt, apt-get, aptitude didn't help. > Couldn't come up with useful search term for wiki. > Eventually recalled "dpkg -i" w

Re: Spectre variants 3a and 4 on Debian 8

2018-08-13 Thread Matthew Crews
On 8/13/18 12:03 AM, John Naggets wrote: > Hello, > > I would like to protect my SuperMicro SYS-5018R-MR server from the > newest Spectre variants 3a and 4 and hence did the following: > > - updated SuperMicro BIOS to v3.1 from 06/06/2018 which explicitly > addresses these 2 new variants based on

Re: New su behavior in util-linux 2.32

2018-08-13 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Aug 11, 2018 at 11:41:34AM +0200, Pétùr wrote: > The new 'su' is useless for me because it cannot launch root program. > I did the modification in /etc/login.defs and restore the previous > behavior. However I am concern with the statement " Doing plain 'su' > is a really bad idea for many

Re: Installing package *NOT* in repository

2018-08-13 Thread Samuel Henrique
If you pass a file as parameter to apt install, like: apt install ./package.deb It will work, at least on buster. A partial "mea culpa" ;/ > I was completely focused on Debian tools and never thought of searching > the whole web. > > My gut feeling is still there should be a way to use Debian tool

Re: Installing package *NOT* in repository

2018-08-13 Thread Richard Owlett
On 08/13/2018 06:59 AM, Joe wrote: On Mon, 13 Aug 2018 06:47:02 -0500 Richard Owlett wrote: PREAMBLE: I've downloaded a .deb file. I've recently done such an install but don't remember how. Looking at the man pages for apt, apt-get, aptitude didn't help. Couldn't come up with useful search ter

Re: SystemD problem with launching a server

2018-08-13 Thread Didar Hossain
On Thu, Aug 09, 2018 at 08:41:39AM +0200, john doe wrote: > On 8/9/2018 1:02 AM, Bill wrote: > >Hi, > > > >So I'd like to run rinetd at boot time on Stretch along with sshd. > > > >I've no problem running rinetd manually using /usr/sbin/rinetd > >or in a script using the same command. ps aux |grep

adaptec raid controllers (ASR71605Q, module: aacraid) fail to boot with xen hypervisor 4.8 or 4.10

2018-08-13 Thread Christian Schwamborn
Hi list, I tried to upgrade some servers this weekend, but failed in my attempts. the hardware differs except in one component, they all have a Adaptec raid controller of the 7th generation (ASR71605Q to be specific, using kernel module accraid). With debian jessie everything was fine, but upgrad

Re: Installing package *NOT* in repository

2018-08-13 Thread john doe
On 8/13/2018 1:47 PM, Richard Owlett wrote: PREAMBLE: I've downloaded a .deb file. I've recently done such an install but don't remember how. Looking at the man pages for apt, apt-get, aptitude didn't help. Couldn't come up with useful search term for wiki. Eventually recalled "dpkg -i" which wor

Re: Installing package *NOT* in repository

2018-08-13 Thread Joe
On Mon, 13 Aug 2018 06:47:02 -0500 Richard Owlett wrote: > PREAMBLE: > I've downloaded a .deb file. > I've recently done such an install but don't remember how. > Looking at the man pages for apt, apt-get, aptitude didn't help. > Couldn't come up with useful search term for wiki. > Eventually rec

Installing package *NOT* in repository

2018-08-13 Thread Richard Owlett
PREAMBLE: I've downloaded a .deb file. I've recently done such an install but don't remember how. Looking at the man pages for apt, apt-get, aptitude didn't help. Couldn't come up with useful search term for wiki. Eventually recalled "dpkg -i" which worked. QUESTION: How would someone find the an

Re: mailing list vs "the futur"

2018-08-13 Thread Dan Purgert
Zenaan Harkness wrote: > [...] > If your forwardee friend fails to notice your fine coffee art photo, > simply create a new Facebook group for them to join called > "MyDebianPrinterProblemForJohn" or something, and then log into that > group and send an invite to your friend, tweet that you've crea

Re: mailing list vs "the futur"

2018-08-13 Thread Dan Purgert
Miles Fidelman wrote: > [...] > Forwarding by email is about the only universal way to share > stuff, or to move it from some service or another to one's personal > storage (I can't tell you how often I email stuff to myself). Thankfully I only have to do the "mail it to myself" approach rarely,

Re: Re: question about the kernel

2018-08-13 Thread dekkzz78
On 08/10, deloptes wrote: songbird wrote: the debian processes are done via the kernel team and so you can also follow that mailing list (i read via gmane and usenet). And you can always do "make deb-pkg" on the source and produce a ready for use debian package regards How would i go about

Re: USB2 or 3 WiFi dual band adapters

2018-08-13 Thread Curt
On 2018-08-12, Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote: > > You must check the full version as the v2 has a different chipset (see > complaints in the Amazon comments). The original is Atheros, the v2 is > Realtek: But you cannot check the full version because the full version is not specified, thus the compl

Spectre variants 3a and 4 on Debian 8

2018-08-13 Thread John Naggets
Hello, I would like to protect my SuperMicro SYS-5018R-MR server from the newest Spectre variants 3a and 4 and hence did the following: - updated SuperMicro BIOS to v3.1 from 06/06/2018 which explicitly addresses these 2 new variants based on their release notes - updated to the latest Debian 8.1