Re: Problems with kernel 4.17.0-1-amd64

2018-08-11 Thread deloptes
Nicolas George wrote: > I am running testing on a fairly normal i3-based PC. Since yesterday, it > is using the 4.17.0-1-amd64 kernel instead of 4.16.0-2-amd64, and I am > experiencing the following two issues: > > The device for the audio controller takes about 0.3 seconds to open. I > have just

Re: SystemD problem with launching a server

2018-08-11 Thread Dale Forsyth
https://www.mycause.com.au/page/183259/a-smile-will-change-a-day-love-that-changed-my-world From: Bill Sent: Thursday, 9 August 2018 9:02 AM To: Debian User ML Cc: bi...@uniserve.com Subject: SystemD problem with launching a server Hi, So I'd like to run rinetd a

Re: non-blocking stdin from bash

2018-08-11 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Sun, 2018-08-12 at 00:48 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Sat, Aug 11, 2018 at 06:08:34PM -0400, Jim Popovitch wrote: > > Hello! > > > > What's the best way to grab anything that's in stdin into a > > variable > > inside a bash script, but won't block if stdin is null? > > I think read is y

Re: debian-user-digest Digest V2018 #747

2018-08-11 Thread Dale Forsyth
https://www.mycause.com.au/page/183259/a-smile-will-change-a-day-love-that-changed-my-world From: debian-user-digest-requ...@lists.debian.org Sent: Thursday, 9 August 2018 4:38 AM To: debian-user-dig...@lists.debian.org Subject: debian-user-digest Digest V2018 #74

Re: Kernel 4.9.0-7-686 Installed RAM vs. uabale RAM

2018-08-11 Thread Dale Forsyth
https://www.mycause.com.au/page/183259/a-smile-will-change-a-day-love-that-changed-my-world From: basti Sent: Tuesday, 7 August 2018 10:53 PM To: Debian.org Subject: Kernel 4.9.0-7-686 Installed RAM vs. uabale RAM Hello, I have a system with Kernel 4.9.0-7-686, in

Re: luks, crypttab: why 3 partition only 2 passphrases entered

2018-08-11 Thread Dale Forsyth
https://www.mycause.com.au/page/183259/a-smile-will-change-a-day-love-that-changed-my-world From: Carles Pina i Estany Sent: Thursday, 2 August 2018 8:47 AM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: luks, crypttab: why 3 partition only 2 passphrases entered Hi,

Re: manuals

2018-08-11 Thread Dale Forsyth
https://www.mycause.com.au/page/183259/a-smile-will-change-a-day-love-that-changed-my-world From: mick crane Sent: Saturday, 11 August 2018 5:16 AM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: manuals Is it OK if I wget the webpages from https://www.debian.org/doc/ma

Re: USB2 or 3 WiFi dual band adapters

2018-08-11 Thread Ben Caradoc-Davies
On 12/08/18 13:51, Joel Wirāmu Pauling wrote: On 9 August 2018 at 03:12, tony mollica wrote: Hello. I need to find a good, reliable WiFi adapter. I have an Alfa AWUS036ACH using a RTL8812au chip and there is support but it's unreliable. Connects sometimes, mostly not. My older adapters work

Re: how to change default locale [was Re: How to Fix ACPI Error : Namespace lookup failure]

2018-08-11 Thread Dale Forsyth
https://www.mycause.com.au/page/183259/a-smile-will-change-a-day-love-that-changed-my-world From: davidson Sent: Saturday, 11 August 2018 8:02 PM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: how to change default locale [was Re: How to Fix ACPI Error : Namespace look

Re: Plasma 5 unusuable after latest buster "upgrade"

2018-08-11 Thread Dale Forsyth
https://www.mycause.com.au/page/183259/a-smile-will-change-a-day-love-that-changed-my-world From: Gary Dale Sent: Saturday, 11 August 2018 3:23 AM To: Debian Users ML Subject: Re: Plasma 5 unusuable after latest buster "upgrade" On 2018-08-10 12:48 PM, Lisandro Da

Re: Apache Backuppc problem

2018-08-11 Thread Dale Forsyth
https://www.mycause.com.au/page/183259/a-smile-will-change-a-day-love-that-changed-my-world From: Gary Roach Sent: Sunday, 12 August 2018 3:50 AM To: Debian User Subject: Apache Backuppc problem Hi all. Debian Stretch OS I have installed the BackupPC /Apache2 pa

Re: iptables config resets after restarting system

2018-08-11 Thread likcoras
On 08/11/2018 05:29 AM, Hubert Hauser wrote: > Good afternoon! > > I've problem with resetting iptables after restarting system. Here's my > /usr/local/bin/fwall-rules file: > > Running command fwall-rules after restarting system works. What am I > doing wrong? > > -- > Best regards, > Hubert Ha

Re: Any VPS recommendations?

2018-08-11 Thread Dale Forsyth
https://www.mycause.com.au/page/183259/a-smile-will-change-a-day-love-that-changed-my-world From: basti Sent: Monday, 23 July 2018 2:11 AM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Any VPS recommendations? https://www.netcup.eu/ https://www.hosting.de/ I don

Re: USB2 or 3 WiFi dual band adapters

2018-08-11 Thread Joel Wirāmu Pauling
Basically find one that uses the ath9k Chipset. They are easily the best supported Wifi Interface. If you need Wireless AC then ath10k based products are useable too. The Intel ranges are OK as clients, but are not really very Opensource. Ath9k has the best Fully Opensource impementation out of a

Re: Tea4CUPS: TEABILLING reports error

2018-08-11 Thread Dale Forsyth
https://www.mycause.com.au/page/183259/a-smile-will-change-a-day-love-that-changed-my-world From: Rainer Dorsch Sent: Wednesday, 30 May 2018 8:40 PM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Cc: debian-print...@lists.debian.org Subject: Tea4CUPS: TEABILLING reports error

Re: debian-user-digest Digest V2018 #764

2018-08-11 Thread Dale Forsyth
https://www.mycause.com.au/page/183259/a-smile-will-change-a-day-love-that-changed-my-world From: debian-user-digest-requ...@lists.debian.org Sent: Sunday, 12 August 2018 5:57 AM To: debian-user-dig...@lists.debian.org Subject: debian-user-digest Digest V2018 #764

Re: /etc/alternatives feedback for presentation

2018-08-11 Thread Dale Forsyth
https://www.mycause.com.au/page/183259/a-smile-will-change-a-day-love-that-changed-my-world From: Ryan Nowakowski Sent: Sunday, 12 August 2018 8:28 AM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: /etc/alternatives feedback for presentation On Thu, Aug 09, 2018 at

Re: New su behavior in util-linux 2.32

2018-08-11 Thread Dale Forsyth
https://www.mycause.com.au/page/183259/a-smile-will-change-a-day-love-that-changed-my-world From: Pétùr Sent: Saturday, 11 August 2018 7:41 PM To: debian-user Subject: New su behavior in util-linux 2.32 Using 'su' generates now an path error when launching program

Re: Using Sid - sound prob

2018-08-11 Thread Dale Forsyth
https://www.mycause.com.au/page/183259/a-smile-will-change-a-day-love-that-changed-my-world From: Ric Moore Sent: Friday, 10 August 2018 4:56 AM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Using Sid - sound prob On 08/09/2018 05:10 AM, Joe wrote: > On Thu, 09 Au

Re: Plasma 5 unusuable after latest buster "upgrade"

2018-08-11 Thread Dale Forsyth
https://www.mycause.com.au/page/183259/a-smile-will-change-a-day-love-that-changed-my-world From: Gary Dale Sent: Saturday, 11 August 2018 3:23 AM To: Debian Users ML Subject: Re: Plasma 5 unusuable after latest buster "upgrade" On 2018-08-10 12:48 PM, Lisandro Da

Re: mailing list vs "the futur"

2018-08-11 Thread Dale Forsyth
https://www.mycause.com.au/page/183259/a-smile-will-change-a-day-love-that-changed-my-world From: arne Sent: Saturday, 11 August 2018 8:34 AM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Cc: sp113...@telfort.nl Subject: Re: mailing list vs "the futur" On Fri, 10 Aug 2018 22:3

Re: mailing list is the future (corrected spelling mistakes)

2018-08-11 Thread Dale Forsyth
https://www.mycause.com.au/page/183259/a-smile-will-change-a-day-love-that-changed-my-world From: tech Sent: Friday, 10 August 2018 4:08 AM To: Debian Users ML Subject: RE: mailing list is the future (corrected spelling mistakes) my spelling VS was correct. Follo

Re: New `no sound' problems

2018-08-11 Thread Dale Forsyth
https://www.mycause.com.au/page/183259/a-smile-will-change-a-day-love-that-changed-my-world From: Rodolfo Medina Sent: Tuesday, 7 August 2018 5:54 PM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: New `no sound' problems It seems to be damned recursive, the problem...

Re: problem with modern desktops on Buster

2018-08-11 Thread Dale Forsyth
https://www.mycause.com.au/page/183259/a-smile-will-change-a-day-love-that-changed-my-world From: Gary Dale Sent: Tuesday, 7 August 2018 5:03 AM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: problem with modern desktops on Buster When I rebooted my computer (AMD64/Bus

Re: question about the kernel

2018-08-11 Thread Dale Forsyth
https://www.mycause.com.au/page/183259/a-smile-will-change-a-day-love-that-changed-my-world From: mick crane Sent: Thursday, 9 August 2018 5:15 PM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: question about the kernel Am I right in thinking that the kernel is a singl

Re: What time is it, really?

2018-08-11 Thread Dale Forsyth
https://www.mycause.com.au/page/183259/a-smile-will-change-a-day-love-that-changed-my-world From: Michael Stone Sent: Friday, 10 August 2018 3:53 AM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: What time is it, really? On Thu, Aug 09, 2018 at 11:54:54AM -0400, Gr

Re: debian-user-digest Digest V2018 #759

2018-08-11 Thread Dale Forsyth
https://www.mycause.com.au/page/183259/a-smile-will-change-a-day-love-that-changed-my-world From: debian-user-digest-requ...@lists.debian.org Sent: Saturday, 11 August 2018 4:19 AM To: debian-user-dig...@lists.debian.org Subject: debian-user-digest Digest V2018 #7

Re: how to change default locale [was Re: How to Fix ACPI Error : Namespace lookup failure]

2018-08-11 Thread Dale Forsyth
https://www.mycause.com.au/page/183259/a-smile-will-change-a-day-love-that-changed-my-world From: davidson Sent: Saturday, 11 August 2018 8:02 PM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: how to change default locale [was Re: How to Fix ACPI Error : Namespace look

Re: debian-user over NNTP: linux.debian.user (was mailing list vs "the futur")

2018-08-11 Thread Dale Forsyth
https://www.mycause.com.au/page/183259/a-smile-will-change-a-day-love-that-changed-my-world From: Thomas Schmitt Sent: Friday, 10 August 2018 10:47 PM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: debian-user over NNTP: linux.debian.user (was mailing list vs "the futu

Re: Hrdware question

2018-08-11 Thread Dale Forsyth
https://www.mycause.com.au/page/183259/a-smile-will-change-a-day-love-that-changed-my-world From: Stephen P. Molnar Sent: Sunday, 12 August 2018 7:20 AM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Hrdware question On 08/11/2018 04:50 PM, David Christensen wrote

Re: USB2 or 3 WiFi dual band adapters

2018-08-11 Thread Dale Forsyth
https://www.mycause.com.au/page/183259/a-smile-will-change-a-day-love-that-changed-my-world From: tony mollica Sent: Thursday, 9 August 2018 1:12 AM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: USB2 or 3 WiFi dual band adapters Hello. I need to find a good, reliabl

Re: messages from GNU screen always in English

2018-08-11 Thread Dale Forsyth
https://www.mycause.com.au/page/183259/a-smile-will-change-a-day-love-that-changed-my-world From: davidson Sent: Thursday, 9 August 2018 11:17 PM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: messages from GNU screen always in English It seems that regardless of my lo

Re: Using Sid (was: New `no sound' problems)

2018-08-11 Thread Dale Forsyth
https://www.mycause.com.au/page/183259/a-smile-will-change-a-day-love-that-changed-my-world From: Joe Sent: Thursday, 9 August 2018 7:10 PM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Cc: delop...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Using Sid (was: New `no sound' problems) On Thu, 09 Aug

Re: non-blocking stdin from bash

2018-08-11 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, Aug 11, 2018 at 06:08:34PM -0400, Jim Popovitch wrote: > Hello! > > What's the best way to grab anything that's in stdin into a variable > inside a bash script, but won't block if stdin is null? I think read is your friend (at least in bash).

Re: /etc/alternatives feedback for presentation

2018-08-11 Thread Ryan Nowakowski
On Thu, Aug 09, 2018 at 08:08:00PM +, der.hans wrote: > moin moin, > > I'm giving a presentation on /etc/alternatives in a few hours. > > If you use the alternatives system a lot and would like to spend a few > minutes reviewing my talk for me, please see the links below. > > Any use cases o

non-blocking stdin from bash

2018-08-11 Thread Jim Popovitch
Hello! What's the best way to grab anything that's in stdin into a variable inside a bash script, but won't block if stdin is null? -Jim P.

Re: Hrdware question

2018-08-11 Thread Stephen P. Molnar
On 08/11/2018 04:50 PM, David Christensen wrote: On 08/11/2018 08:19 AM, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: I am running Debian Stretch on my 64bit Linux platform. I am planning on installing a 500B SSD as the boot HD and have a question about the SATA connectors on the ASUS M5A97 R2.0 MB. I have wh

Re: Hrdware question

2018-08-11 Thread David Christensen
On 08/11/2018 08:19 AM, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: I am running Debian Stretch on my 64bit Linux platform. I am planning on installing a 500B SSD as the boot HD and have a question about the SATA connectors on the ASUS M5A97 R2.0 MB. I have what I thought was a simple question, but Google has n

Re: Apache Backuppc problem

2018-08-11 Thread Bob Weber
On 8/11/18 1:50 PM, Gary Roach wrote: Hi all. Debian Stretch OS I have installed the BackupPC /Apache2 package before and had no trouble accessing the BackupPC GUI at localhost/backuppc. This time (using apt install backuppc) I keep getting a window asking if I wish to save a bin file. The s

Re: Hrdware question

2018-08-11 Thread Stephen P. Molnar
On 08/11/2018 03:17 PM, Felix Miata wrote: Stephen P. Molnar composed on 2018-08-11 11:19 (UTC-0400): I am running Debian Stretch on my 64bit Linux platform. I am planning on installing a 500B SSD as the boot HD and have a question about the SATA connectors on the ASUS M5A97 R2.0 MB. I have w

Re: Hrdware question

2018-08-11 Thread Shea Alterio
I have not gone thru OP's motherboard manual, but on my HP workstation, the ports are numbered _0 thru _5 and if only one drive is plugged in total then it will be /dev/sda. However if two or more are plugged in then the _0 is sda.

Re: Hrdware question

2018-08-11 Thread Felix Miata
Stephen P. Molnar composed on 2018-08-11 11:19 (UTC-0400): > I am running Debian Stretch on my 64bit Linux platform. > I am planning on installing a 500B SSD as the boot HD and have a > question about the SATA connectors on the ASUS M5A97 R2.0 MB. > I have what I thought was a simple question,

Apache Backuppc problem

2018-08-11 Thread Gary Roach
Hi all. Debian Stretch OS I have installed the BackupPC /Apache2 package before and had no trouble accessing the BackupPC GUI at localhost/backuppc. This time (using apt install backuppc) I keep getting a window asking if I wish to save a bin file. The server downloads a file like W6gLcuk0.bi

Re: mailing list is the future (corrected spelling mistakes)

2018-08-11 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 11 August 2018 12:52:26 Allen Hoover wrote: > On Sun, Aug 12, 2018 at 12:29:33AM +1200, Richard Hector wrote: > > On 11/08/18 23:28, Michelle Konzack wrote: > > > Am DATE hackte AUTHOR in die Tasten: Brad Rogers > > > > > >> On Sat, 11 Aug 2018 12:05:21 +0300 > > >> "Michelle Konzack"

Re: Hrdware question

2018-08-11 Thread Stephen P. Molnar
On 08/11/2018 12:22 PM, john doe wrote: On 8/11/2018 5:19 PM, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: I am running Debian Stretch on my 64bit Linux platform. I am planning on installing a 500B SSD as the boot HD and have a question about the SATA connectors on the ASUS M5A97 R2.0 MB. I have what I though

Re: mailing list is the future (corrected spelling mistakes)

2018-08-11 Thread Allen Hoover
On Sun, Aug 12, 2018 at 12:29:33AM +1200, Richard Hector wrote: > On 11/08/18 23:28, Michelle Konzack wrote: > > Am DATE hackte AUTHOR in die Tasten: Brad Rogers > >> On Sat, 11 Aug 2018 12:05:21 +0300 > >> "Michelle Konzack" wrote: > >> > >> Hello Michelle, > >> > >>> Oh yeah, -- let's hoover! >

Re: New su behavior in util-linux 2.32

2018-08-11 Thread Curt
On 2018-08-11, Pétùr wrote: > Le 11/08/2018 à 16:03, Curt a écrit : >> There was a lengthy discussion, but within it I don't remember anyone >> detailing the numerous reasons (or any reason at all) executing plain >> 'su' is a "really bad idea," (where I'm reading "really bad idea" to >> mean havi

Re: mailing list is the future (corrected spelling mistakes)

2018-08-11 Thread Cindy-Sue Causey
On 8/11/18, Curt wrote: > On 2018-08-11, Michelle Konzack wrote: >> Am DATE hackte Brad Rogers in die Tasten: >>> The wheel has been around for well over two thousand years. Perhaps >>> we >>> should get rid of that, too. >> >> Oh yeah, -- let's hoover! > > That's a vacuum cleaner. My brain te

Re: Hrdware question

2018-08-11 Thread john doe
On 8/11/2018 5:19 PM, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: I am running Debian Stretch on my 64bit Linux platform. I am planning on installing a 500B SSD as the boot HD and have a question about the SATA connectors on the ASUS M5A97 R2.0 MB. I have what I thought was a simple question, but Google has not

Re: Hrdware question

2018-08-11 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 11 August 2018 11:19:19 Stephen P. Molnar wrote: > I am running Debian Stretch on my 64bit Linux platform. > > I am planning on installing a 500B SSD as the boot HD and have a > question about the SATA connectors on the ASUS M5A97 R2.0 MB. > > I have what I thought was a simple questio

Re: New su behavior in util-linux 2.32

2018-08-11 Thread Pétùr
Le 11/08/2018 à 13:42, Nicolas George a écrit : > Pétùr (2018-08-11): >> The new 'su' is useless for me because it cannot launch root program. > Maybe learn how to use $PATH? If I modify $PATH for the new "su", I basically re-implement the old behavior of "su". This is exactly what adding 'ALWAYS_

Re: New su behavior in util-linux 2.32

2018-08-11 Thread Pétùr
Le 11/08/2018 à 16:03, Curt a écrit : > There was a lengthy discussion, but within it I don't remember anyone > detailing the numerous reasons (or any reason at all) executing plain > 'su' is a "really bad idea," (where I'm reading "really bad idea" to > mean having unintended and very detrimental

Re: Hrdware question

2018-08-11 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, Aug 11, 2018 at 11:19:19AM -0400, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: > I am running Debian Stretch on my 64bit Linux platform. > > I am planning on installing a 500B SSD as the boot HD and have a > question about the SATA connectors on the ASUS M5A97 R2

Re: Tea4CUPS: TEABILLING reports error

2018-08-11 Thread daniel-mailinglists
Hey there, I'm having this error too, on my KDE Neon System as well as on my (now) Arch System. It works most of the times, but not all. Did you finally manage to find a solution, Rainer? -- Daniel

Re: New su behavior in util-linux 2.32

2018-08-11 Thread Samuel Henrique
> > There was a lengthy discussion, but within it I don't remember anyone > detailing the numerous reasons (or any reason at all) executing plain > 'su' is a "really bad idea," (where I'm reading "really bad idea" to > mean having unintended and very detrimental consequences to the > hapless user).

Hrdware question

2018-08-11 Thread Stephen P. Molnar
I am running Debian Stretch on my 64bit Linux platform. I am planning on installing a 500B SSD as the boot HD and have a question about the SATA connectors on the ASUS M5A97 R2.0 MB. I have what I thought was a simple question, but Google has not been a friend to me. What I found via that ro

Re: debian-user over NNTP: linux.debian.user (was mailing list vs "the futur")

2018-08-11 Thread songbird
Dan Purgert wrote: > Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희, 黃炳熙) wrote: >> Dan Purgert writes: >>> Yeah, well, least it's on eternal-september (my NNTP provider). I doubt >>> they're the most active, but the service is free, and good enough for my >>> tastes. yes! i'm glad there are people who are willing to

Re: Problems with kernel 4.17.0-1-amd64

2018-08-11 Thread Nicolas George
rv riveravaldez (2018-07-26): > I'm having an audio issue with this same kernel: there's a permanent > buzz that starts at soon as the system has loaded and only stops when > I play some sound (any audio or video) or starts JACK (via qjackctl). A lost interrupt like I suspected initially would not

Re: Problems with kernel 4.17.0-1-amd64

2018-08-11 Thread Nicolas George
Hi. An update on this: Nicolas George (2018-07-25): > The device for the audio controller takes about 0.3 seconds to open. I > have just rebooted on 4.16, and with it the delay is imperceptible. (And > yes, 0.3 seconds for that is a problem for me.) The audio device is > listed as "ALC892 Analog"

Re: New su behavior in util-linux 2.32

2018-08-11 Thread Curt
On 2018-08-11, Stefan Krusche wrote: >> >> The first difference is probably the most user visible one. Doing >> plain 'su' is a really bad idea for many reasons, so using 'su -' is >> strongly recommended to always get a newly set up environment similar >> to a normal login. If you want to

Re: mailing list vs "the futur"

2018-08-11 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, Aug 11, 2018 at 02:19:49PM +0200, Eric S Fraga wrote: > On Friday, 10 Aug 2018 at 12:42, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > [1] I know what I'm talking about: I've watched the slow and painful > >process of replacing mail with something more "mode

Re: mailing list is the future (corrected spelling mistakes)

2018-08-11 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sat, 11 Aug 2018 12:34:15 + (UTC) Curt wrote: Hello Curt, >He did say "well over," people will point out, but there's the unwritten >rule that the quantity attributed to a "well over" cannot be superior to >the original, I knew I wanted a number much greater than 2000, but wasn't sure h

Re: mailing list is the future (corrected spelling mistakes)

2018-08-11 Thread Curt
On 2018-08-11, Michelle Konzack wrote: > Am DATE hackte Brad Rogers in die Tasten: >> The wheel has been around for well over two thousand years. Perhaps >> we >> should get rid of that, too. > > Oh yeah, -- let's hoover! That's a vacuum cleaner. Of course, those new-fangled digital Dysons, wh

Re: mailing list is the future (corrected spelling mistakes)

2018-08-11 Thread Richard Hector
On 11/08/18 23:28, Michelle Konzack wrote: > Am DATE hackte AUTHOR in die Tasten: Brad Rogers >> On Sat, 11 Aug 2018 12:05:21 +0300 >> "Michelle Konzack" wrote: >> >> Hello Michelle, >> >>> Oh yeah, -- let's hoover! >> >> Errr, hoover? >> >> What, like the make of vacuum cleaner? :-) > > Check

Re: mailing list vs "the futur"

2018-08-11 Thread Eric S Fraga
On Friday, 10 Aug 2018 at 12:42, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > [1] I know what I'm talking about: I've watched the slow and painful >process of replacing mail with something more "modern" (O365) in >a big corp, and the underhanded tactics of badmouthing and >marginalizing fueled by a Micros

Re: New su behavior in util-linux 2.32

2018-08-11 Thread Nicolas George
Pétùr (2018-08-11): > The new 'su' is useless for me because it cannot launch root program. Maybe learn how to use $PATH? Regards, -- Nicolas George signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: mailing list is the future (corrected spelling mistakes)

2018-08-11 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am DATE hackte AUTHOR in die Tasten: Brad Rogers > On Sat, 11 Aug 2018 12:05:21 +0300 > "Michelle Konzack" wrote: > > Hello Michelle, > >>Oh yeah, -- let's hoover! > > Errr, hoover? > > What, like the make of vacuum cleaner? :-) Check YouTube for "Hoover Board"... Realy cool inventions! Let a

Re: mailing list is the future (corrected spelling mistakes)

2018-08-11 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sat, 11 Aug 2018 12:05:21 +0300 "Michelle Konzack" wrote: Hello Michelle, >Oh yeah, -- let's hoover! Errr, hoover? What, like the make of vacuum cleaner? :-) -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent" Life's short,

how to change default locale [was Re: How to Fix ACPI Error : Namespace lookup failure]

2018-08-11 Thread davidson
On Sun, 5 Aug 2018, genius wrote: Q: how to change the Language option . my system default language is English , now I want to change it into Chinese.. If there is some connection between the original subject line of your message ("Re: How to Fix ACPI Error : Namespace lookup failure") and the

Re: New su behavior in util-linux 2.32

2018-08-11 Thread Stefan Krusche
Am Samstag 11 August 2018 schrieb Pétùr: > Using 'su' generates now an path error when launching programs such as > 'shutdown'. The cause is a new behavior described below. --- > util-linux (2.32-0.4) unstable; urgency=medium > > The util-linux implementation of /bin/su is now used, replacing the

Re: mailing list vs "the futur"

2018-08-11 Thread Rob van der Putten
Hi there On 10/08/18 01:03, Rich Kulawiec wrote: No. This is an absolutely terrible idea. Here's why mailing lists are (along with Usenet newsgroups) vastly superior to web-based anything: I prefer Usenet to mailing lists. I read dozens of mailing lists and I don't want all that data on

New su behavior in util-linux 2.32

2018-08-11 Thread Pétùr
Using 'su' generates now an path error when launching programs such as 'shutdown'. The cause is a new behavior described below. --- util-linux (2.32-0.4) unstable; urgency=medium The util-linux implementation of /bin/su is now used, replacing the one previously supplied by src:shadow (shipped

Re: mailing list is the future (corrected spelling mistakes)

2018-08-11 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am DATE hackte Brad Rogers in die Tasten: > The wheel has been around for well over two thousand years. Perhaps > we > should get rid of that, too. Oh yeah, -- let's hoover! Time to get cars without wheels. -- Michelle KonzackMiila ITSystems @ TDnet GNU/Linux Developer 00372-5454140

Re: mailing list vs "the futur"

2018-08-11 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am DATE hackte Ben Finney in die Tasten: > It's 2018. Shouldn't we move away from an old “keyboard” to > something > mroe modern like a data-glove? I would prefer the Star Trek version: "Computer, show me Ben Finneys last 10 postings on debian user" -- Michelle KonzackMiila ITSystem

Re: Re: mailing list vs "the futur"

2018-08-11 Thread dekkzz78
On 08/10, Dan Purgert wrote: Rich Kulawiec wrote: On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 06:24:55AM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: I get more mail than that before breakfast. If you've got the right tools, it's easy to deal with. This is an excellent point. Many of the people who lodge complaints like the one th

Re: What time is it, really?

2018-08-11 Thread Fekete Tamás
Dear Colleagues, I think the extensions made by others to my comment were very valuable. Only thing I would like to add, that Fred's (original asker) problem is probably that time sync daemon can not do it's job in the background properly. Ntpd can not sync on startup or later and time async reach

Re: mailing list vs "the futur"

2018-08-11 Thread dekkzz78
On 08/09, tech wrote: The way most people keep up to date on network news is through subscription to a number of mail reflectors (also known as mail exploders). Mail reflectors are special electronic mailboxes which, when they receive a message, resend it to a list of other mailboxes. This in

Re: mailing list vs "the futur"

2018-08-11 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am DATE hackte Dan Purgert in die Tasten: > Thanks for the explanation. At some point I may have to look into it > in > more detail -- although since I run my MTA (well, at least for the > mail > that matters) that does sorting serverside, might not do me any good. I would say, your MTA has nothi

Re: mailing list vs "the futur"

2018-08-11 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hiello, Am sometime in the past hackte Dan Purgert in die Tasten: > Rich Kulawiec wrote: >> On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 06:24:55AM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: >>> I get more mail than that before breakfast. If you've got the >>> right tools, it's easy to deal with. 1+ > Not familiar with procmail. A qu