On Tue, 8 May 2018, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
On Tue, May 08, 2018 at 02:23:57AM +0300, Abdullah Ramazanoğlu wrote:
Is anyone working on a mechanism to allow for install-time selection
of a desired init? I brought this up a few times since systemd came
to Debian, but I've never heard anything mor
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On Tue, May 08, 2018 at 02:23:57AM +0300, Abdullah Ramazanoğlu wrote:
[...]
> >> Is anyone working on a mechanism to allow for install-time selection
> >> of a desired init? I brought this up a few times since systemd came
> >> to Debian, but I've n
(onet was blocked, second try)
Hello.
Recently I found, that some mails (fetched witch fetchmail) does not reach my
mailbox.
Done some check and:
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2018-05-07 11:44:14.306 [9516] 1fFcgn-0002TU-Pb H=(alfa.kjonca)
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On 08/05/18 04:52, songbird wrote:
> David Griffith wrote:
> ...
>> I found someone who has already done most if not all of this analysis and =
>> has set up a repo containing non-systemd-using packages=2E Perhaps this ca=
>> n be used as a foundation for something official=2E
>
> devuan is a
On 2018-05-07 at 14:34, Abdullah Ramazanoğlu wrote:
> On Mon, 07 May 2018 07:39:22 -0400 The Wanderer said:
>
>> 3. See whether it tries to install systemd, either by direct
>> dependency or by an indirect cascade of dependencies.
> ...
>> 5. If it tries to install systemd by indirect dependency,
On Tue, 8 May 2018 00:30:31 + (UTC) David Griffith said:
> Through trial and error, I found that these worked in this order:
>
> Package: libsystemd0
> Pin: release *
> Pin-Priority: 500
>
> Package: *systemd*
> Pin: release *
> Pin-Priority: -1
>
> In the order as you describe, EVERYTHING
On Mon 07 May 2018 at 09:11:08 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 05/07/2018 08:49 AM, Thomas Schmitt wrote:
> >Hi,
> >
> >Andy Smith wrote:
> >>It would still be good to establish why "cp -x" was seemingly able
> >>to cross filesystem boundaries as that would be a bug.
> >
> >Yep. Leaving behind
On Mon 07 May 2018 at 15:28:14 (+0200), Thomas Schmitt wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Richard Owlett wrote:
> > My goal was to copy root and its sub-directory to a directory on another
> > physical device.
>
> Well understood.
> In a slightly different scenario (backup on Blu-ray) i do this several
> times per
On Mon 07 May 2018 at 06:31:16 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 05/06/2018 10:11 AM, Thomas Schmitt wrote:
> >Hi,
> >
> >Richard Owlett wrote:
> >>Thought I was doing that by specifying -x.
> >
> >Either cp -x has a bug or the target directory is not in a different
> >filesystem than "/" and not
On Tue, 8 May 2018, Abdullah Ramazanoğlu wrote:
On Mon, 7 May 2018 08:26:35 + (UTC) David Griffith said:
Package: *systemd*
Pin: release *
Pin-Priority: -1
This will prevent anything requiring systemd from being accidentally
installed. This also prevents libsystemd0 from being updated.
Brian composed on 2018-05-07 23:22 (UTC+0100):
> On Mon 07 May 2018 at 18:04:47 -0400, Dan Norton wrote:
>> On Mon, 7 May 2018 10:42:17 -0400 Felix Miata wrote:
>> linux /install.amd/vmlinuz vga=788 --- tasks=standard
>> base-installer/install-recommends=false
>> Is that going to result i
On Mon, 7 May 2018 12:40:13 -0700 Patrick Bartek said:
> On Mon, 7 May 2018 01:25:15 + (UTC) David Griffith
> wrote:
>> Is anyone working on a mechanism to allow for install-time selection
>> of a desired init? I brought this up a few times since systemd came
>> to Debian, but I've never h
On Mon, 7 May 2018 18:24:04 -0400
Felix Miata wrote:
> Dan Norton composed on 2018-05-07 18:04 (UTC-0400):
>
> > On Mon, 7 May 2018 10:42:17 -0400 Felix Miata wrote:
>
> >> IME, virtually any distro's installation media when its presence
> >> first appears on screen allows for some method of
On Mon 07 May 2018 at 18:37:16 -0400, Dan Norton wrote:
> On Mon, 7 May 2018 23:22:46 +0100
> Brian wrote:
>
> > On Mon 07 May 2018 at 18:04:47 -0400, Dan Norton wrote:
> >
> > > On Mon, 7 May 2018 10:42:17 -0400
> > > Felix Miata wrote:
> > >
> > > > jpff composed on 2018-05-07 12:34 (UTC+
On Mon, 7 May 2018 23:22:46 +0100
Brian wrote:
> On Mon 07 May 2018 at 18:04:47 -0400, Dan Norton wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 7 May 2018 10:42:17 -0400
> > Felix Miata wrote:
> >
> > > jpff composed on 2018-05-07 12:34 (UTC+0100):
> > >
> > > > Felix Miata wrote:
> > >
> > > >> My Debian
Dan Norton composed on 2018-05-07 18:04 (UTC-0400):
> On Mon, 7 May 2018 10:42:17 -0400 Felix Miata wrote:
>> IME, virtually any distro's installation media when its presence
>> first appears on screen allows for some method of appending
>> parameters to the kernel cmdline
> That "kernel cm
On Mon 07 May 2018 at 18:04:47 -0400, Dan Norton wrote:
> On Mon, 7 May 2018 10:42:17 -0400
> Felix Miata wrote:
>
> > jpff composed on 2018-05-07 12:34 (UTC+0100):
> >
> > > Felix Miata wrote:
> >
> > >> My Debian installations are all net installs that include
> >
> > >> tasks=standard
On Mon, 7 May 2018, Brian wrote:
[snip notes on analysing each and every systemd-touching package]
I found someone who has already done most if not all of this analysis
and has set up a repo containing non-systemd-using packages. Perhaps
this can be used as a foundation for something official.
On Mon, 7 May 2018 10:42:17 -0400
Felix Miata wrote:
> jpff composed on 2018-05-07 12:34 (UTC+0100):
>
> > Felix Miata wrote:
>
> >> My Debian installations are all net installs that include
>
> >>tasks=standard base-installer/install-recommends=false
>
> >> on the kernel cmdline. I
Dan Norton composed on 2018-05-07 17:47 (UTC-0400):
> Felix wrote:
> "My Debian installations are all net installs that include
> tasks=standard base-installer/install-recommends=false
> on the kernel cmdline."
> What's the kernel here? The one for the installer, right? We need to
> pass
Dan Norton composed on 2018-05-07 17:47 (UTC-0400):
> Felix wrote:
> "My Debian installations are all net installs that include
> tasks=standard base-installer/install-recommends=false
> on the kernel cmdline."
> What's the kernel here? The one for the installer, right? We need to
> pass
On Mon, 07 May 2018 21:54:48 +0200
deloptes wrote:
Hello deloptes,
>years it dropped, because of this. USA and UK started first, so it must
>be more than 10y there ... or they do not produce anything at all -
Here in the UK, almost as long as I can remember. It even applies to
meat; "British"
On Mon, 7 May 2018 15:30:54 + (UTC)
Curt wrote:
> On 2018-05-07, Curt wrote:
> > On 2018-05-07, Dan Norton wrote:
> >>>
> >>> on the kernel cmdline. I get nothing I don't need installed that
> >>> way. Xorg and whatever else I need I get with apt* once booted
> >>> normally.
> >>
> >> H
On 05/07/2018 02:16 PM, Brian wrote:
Answering a question or two might see a dramatic increase in betterness.
I'm stealing that one! Ric
--
My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say:
"There are two Great Sins in the world...
..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity.
Only the former may
Brad Rogers wrote:
> Hardly unique; USA, UK, etc, etc. (ad nauseam) do the same thing.
well Germany was delivering always a good quality, but in the past couple of
years it dropped, because of this. USA and UK started first, so it must be
more than 10y there ... or they do not produce anything a
On Mon, 7 May 2018 01:25:15 + (UTC) David Griffith
wrote:
> On Sun, 6 May 2018, Patrick Bartek wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 6 May 2018 02:44:16 + (UTC) David Griffith
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Have any advances been made in figuring out just how to remove
> >> libsystemd0 from a Debian 9 machine tha
Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> I think mainly Akonadi, Nepomuk, Plasma, a bit also Phonon needs
> quite some more stabilization and performance work.
After 10years - those basic applications still cause problems ... and you
call it "more stabilization and performance work" ... come on - jokes.
The
David Griffith wrote:
...
> I found someone who has already done most if not all of this analysis and =
> has set up a repo containing non-systemd-using packages=2E Perhaps this ca=
> n be used as a foundation for something official=2E
devuan is already there (is it not?)...
songbird
On Mon 07 May 2018 at 05:50:27 -0700, David Griffith wrote:
> On May 7, 2018 4:39:22 AM PDT, The Wanderer wrote:
> >On 2018-05-06 at 21:47, David Griffith wrote:
> >
> >> Could we start the process of identifying packages that have
> >> dependencies on systemd in some way that is are not actually
On Mon, 07 May 2018 07:39:22 -0400 The Wanderer said:
> 3. See whether it tries to install systemd, either by direct dependency
> or by an indirect cascade of dependencies.
...
> 5. If it tries to install systemd by indirect dependency, identify the
> package in the dependency chain which results
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On Mon, May 07, 2018 at 08:49:00PM +0300, Michelle Konzack wrote:
> Good evening,
>
> Am 2018-05-07 hackte to...@tuxteam.de in die Tasten:
> > If "no systemd" purism is your thing, there's Devuan. There are
> > pretty smart folks over there too.
>
>
On 07/05/18 04:31 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:
I gather that "cp" is then an inappropriate tool.
"tar" is inappropriate for my preferences - I was attempting to use "cp"
as there would be multiple files &/or directories as input *and* output.
I suspect long term I want "rsync" [ *MUCH* reading to
On Mon 07 May 2018 at 18:17:07 +0100, jpff wrote:
> Things are getting better if not quite right. I have a lean x/fvwm system
> installed and I have managed to get an xterm displayed. The major issues I
> have left outstanding are
If you have fvwm on the system it was installed after first boot
Good evening,
Am 2018-05-07 hackte to...@tuxteam.de in die Tasten:
> If "no systemd" purism is your thing, there's Devuan. There are
> pretty smart folks over there too.
Without security updates...
I used some to get rid of systemd entirely, BUT,
those packages are some versions behind Debian!
On Mon, 7 May 2018, Kushal Kumaran wrote:
Date: Mon, 7 May 2018 13:15:48
From: Kushal Kumaran
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Backup problem using "cp"
Resent-Date: Mon, 7 May 2018 17:16:09 + (UTC)
Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Richard Owlett writes:
On 05/07/
Things are getting better if not quite right. I have a lean x/fvwm system
installed and I have managed to get an xterm displayed. The major issues
I have left outstanding are
1: The X40 has a three-mbutton trackpoint but while button 1 works,
button 2 has no affect and button 3 does what bu
Richard Owlett writes:
> On 05/07/2018 07:01 AM, Thomas Schmitt wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Richard Owlett wrote:
>>> richard@debian-jan13:~$ stat / | fgrep Device
>>> Device: 80eh/2062d Inode: 2 Links: 22
>>> richard@debian-jan13:~$ stat /media | fgrep Device
>>> Device: 80eh/2062d I
On Sunday, May 06, 2018 11:54:51 PM Felix Miata wrote:
> rhkra...@gmail.com composed on 2018-05-06 21:28 (UTC-0400):
> > @Martin Steigerwald
> >
> > What a clever idea--security by obscurity, by setting your clock 8 years
> > off...
> >
> > On Monday, May 10, 2010 05:58:42 PM Martin Steigerwald w
On 2018-05-07, Cindy-Sue Causey wrote:
> On 5/6/18, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Sunday, May 06, 2018 04:57:13 PM to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
>>> On Sun, May 06, 2018 at 09:19:24PM +0200, Hans wrote:
>>>
>>> [...]
>>>
>>> > Check also the elkos, if they are blown thick, they are also a problem.
>>
On 2018-05-06, Long Wind wrote:
>
> some Chinese file names are properly shown in xterm in stretch, but other are
> not
>
> all Chinese characters can be properly shown in firefox
>
> how to solve it? Thanks!
>
I really don't know, but this fellow Eric Ma
https://www.systutorials.com/241209/how
On Mon 07 May 2018 at 15:46:12 +0100, jpff wrote:
>
> >
> > > And thank you all who pointed me at the non-free installer files. I will
> > > try that later today with luck
> > >
> > >
>
> well, modified rapture1
>
> i booted from the usb stick with the firmware .iso and tried an install. I
Am Donnerstag 06 Mai 2010 schrieb Sune Vuorela:
> On 2010-05-06, Curt Howland wrote:
> > On Thursday 06 May 2010, Ana Guerrero was heard to say:
> >> On Thu, May 06, 2010 at 03:17:43AM -0300, Jorge Gonçalves wrote:
> >> > Maybe use dummy packages, or rename the packages so that KDE 3.5
> >> > coul
On 2018-05-07, Curt wrote:
> On 2018-05-07, Dan Norton wrote:
>>>
>>> on the kernel cmdline. I get nothing I don't need installed that way.
>>> Xorg and whatever else I need I get with apt* once booted normally.
>>>
>>
>> How do you get that on the kernel cmdline? My guess is that when the
>> n
On 2018-05-07, Dan Norton wrote:
>>
>> on the kernel cmdline. I get nothing I don't need installed that way.
>> Xorg and whatever else I need I get with apt* once booted normally.
>>
>
> How do you get that on the kernel cmdline? My guess is that when the
> net-install medium boots, showing the
On Mon, 7 May 2018, jpff wrote:
>
> >
> > > And thank you all who pointed me at the non-free installer files. I will
> > > try that later today with luck
> > >
> > >
>
> well, modified rapture1
>
> i booted from the usb stick with the firmware .iso and tried an install. I
> accepted the l
On Mon, May 07, 2018 at 01:09:33PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> On Mon 07 May 2018 at 12:34:07 +0100, jpff wrote:
>
> > That looks interesting; it attemts to answer my deep problem about no X,
> > xdm, xterm etc.
> >
> > My problem nowis I do not know where/how to apply this. I have not seen any
> > me
And thank you all who pointed me at the non-free installer files. I will
try that later today with luck
well, modified rapture1
i booted from the usb stick with the firmware .iso and tried an install. I
accepted the licence for the firmware and proceeded to configure the wifi.
It aske
jpff composed on 2018-05-07 12:34 (UTC+0100):
> Felix Miata wrote:
>> My Debian installations are all net installs that include
>> tasks=standard base-installer/install-recommends=false
>> on the kernel cmdline. I get nothing I don't need installed that way. Xorg
>> and
>> whatever else I
On Mon, 7 May 2018 09:59:01 -0400
Bob Weber wrote:
> On 5/7/18 9:28 AM, Thomas Schmitt wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Richard Owlett wrote:
> >> My goal was to copy root and its sub-directory to a directory on
> >> another physical device.
> > Well understood.
> > In a slightly different scenario (ba
On 05/07/2018 08:54 AM, Richard Hector wrote:
On 08/05/18 00:55, David Griffith wrote:
On May 7, 2018 4:31:16 AM PDT, Richard Owlett wrote:
On 05/06/2018 10:11 AM, Thomas Schmitt wrote:
Hi,
Richard Owlett wrote:
Thought I was doing that by specifying -x.
Either cp -x has a bug or the targ
On 05/07/2018 08:49 AM, Thomas Schmitt wrote:
Hi,
Andy Smith wrote:
It would still be good to establish why "cp -x" was seemingly able
to cross filesystem boundaries as that would be a bug.
Yep. Leaving behind too many maybe-bugs can make the ground swampy.
I forgot to mention that the theor
On Sun, May 06, 2018 at 02:36:50PM -0400, Thomas George wrote:
> Box is between two tables but managed to remove side cover and with
> mirror confirmed green light on motherboard. Unplugged power cord,
> green light goes out, reconnected power, green light on and power
> switch works, BIOS message
On dom, 06 mai 2018, Long Wind wrote:
some Chinese file names are properly shown in xterm in stretch, but
other are not
all Chinese characters can be properly shown in firefox
When you say Firefox shows the characters, do you mean it correctly
shows those file names, or just that you can s
On 05/07/2018 08:24 AM, Andy Smith wrote:
Hello,
On Mon, May 07, 2018 at 07:51:23AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
I'll likely abandon further immediate investigation of cp. I've other
projects to complete
It would still be good to establish why "cp -x" was seemingly able
to cross filesystem b
On 05/07/2018 08:28 AM, Thomas Schmitt wrote:
Hi,
Richard Owlett wrote:
My goal was to copy root and its sub-directory to a directory on another
physical device.
Well understood.
In a slightly different scenario (backup on Blu-ray) i do this several
times per day.
But i would not dare to giv
On 5/7/18 9:28 AM, Thomas Schmitt wrote:
Hi,
Richard Owlett wrote:
My goal was to copy root and its sub-directory to a directory on another
physical device.
Well understood.
In a slightly different scenario (backup on Blu-ray) i do this several
times per day.
But i would not dare to give the
On 08/05/18 00:55, David Griffith wrote:
> On May 7, 2018 4:31:16 AM PDT, Richard Owlett wrote:
>> On 05/06/2018 10:11 AM, Thomas Schmitt wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Richard Owlett wrote:
Thought I was doing that by specifying -x.
>>>
>>> Either cp -x has a bug or the target directory is not in a
On 05/07/2018 08:07 AM, Greg Wooledge wrote:
[snip]>
It sounds like you un-checked the specific desktop environments (KDE,
GNOME, XFCE, etc.) but left "Debian desktop environment" selected.
I honestly have no idea what happens in that case. I always un-check
that one. The only Tasks I select d
Hi,
Andy Smith wrote:
> It would still be good to establish why "cp -x" was seemingly able
> to cross filesystem boundaries as that would be a bug.
Yep. Leaving behind too many maybe-bugs can make the ground swampy.
I forgot to mention that the theory of David Wright is not outruled yet:
David
On 05/07/2018 07:55 AM, David Griffith wrote:
On May 7, 2018 4:31:16 AM PDT, Richard Owlett wrote:
On 05/06/2018 10:11 AM, Thomas Schmitt wrote:
Hi,
Richard Owlett wrote:
Thought I was doing that by specifying -x.
Either cp -x has a bug or the target directory is not in a different
filesys
wool...@eeg.ccf.org wrote:
>
>It sounds like you un-checked the specific desktop environments (KDE,
>GNOME, XFCE, etc.) but left "Debian desktop environment" selected.
>I honestly have no idea what happens in that case. I always un-check
>that one. The only Tasks I select during the install are S
Hi,
Richard Owlett wrote:
> My goal was to copy root and its sub-directory to a directory on another
> physical device.
Well understood.
In a slightly different scenario (backup on Blu-ray) i do this several
times per day.
But i would not dare to give the whole root tree as input to any copying
Hello,
On Mon, May 07, 2018 at 07:51:23AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
> I'll likely abandon further immediate investigation of cp. I've other
> projects to complete
It would still be good to establish why "cp -x" was seemingly able
to cross filesystem boundaries as that would be a bug.
Cheers,
Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 05/07/2018 06:54 AM, Dan Purgert wrote:
>> Richard Owlett wrote:
>>> [...]
>>> I suspect long term I want "rsync" [ *MUCH* reading to do! ]
>>
>> Perhaps; although depending on the source / target pathing, you may run
>> into the same length issues.
>>
>
> 1st - I suspe
On 05/07/2018 07:01 AM, Thomas Schmitt wrote:
Hi,
Richard Owlett wrote:
richard@debian-jan13:~$ stat / | fgrep Device
Device: 80eh/2062d Inode: 2 Links: 22
richard@debian-jan13:~$ stat /media | fgrep Device
Device: 80eh/2062d Inode: 131073 Links: 5
"/media" was not th
On Sun, May 06, 2018 at 09:51:09PM +0100, John wrote:
> After rather a long time it said it was installed so I rebooted -- a
> big mistake! I was hoping for a computer where I could write
> programs, mainly with xterm, emacs (with elisp) and C. I had asked
> for no gnome no kde no xfce... I usua
On May 7, 2018 4:39:22 AM PDT, The Wanderer wrote:
>On 2018-05-06 at 21:47, David Griffith wrote:
>
>> Could we start the process of identifying packages that have
>> dependencies on systemd in some way that is are not actually
>> required?
>
>This is a seriously nontrivial task.
>
>As I understan
On Sun, 6 May 2018 21:26 + (UTC), Long Wind wrote:
> some Chinese file names are properly shown in xterm in stretch, but
> other are not
> all Chinese characters can be properly shown in firefox
> how to solve it? Thanks!
You could try uxterm. It is provided by the xterm package.
Another meth
On May 7, 2018 4:31:16 AM PDT, Richard Owlett wrote:
>On 05/06/2018 10:11 AM, Thomas Schmitt wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Richard Owlett wrote:
>>> Thought I was doing that by specifying -x.
>>
>> Either cp -x has a bug or the target directory is not in a different
>> filesystem than "/" and not a mount
On 05/07/2018 06:54 AM, Dan Purgert wrote:
Richard Owlett wrote:
[...]
I suspect long term I want "rsync" [ *MUCH* reading to do! ]
Perhaps; although depending on the source / target pathing, you may run
into the same length issues.
1st - I suspect that --exclude will eliminate multiple pit
On Sun, 2018-05-06 at 16:34 -0400, Boyan Penkov wrote:
> On Sun, 2018-05-06 at 11:20 -0400, Boyan Penkov wrote:
> > > Updating sources to buster and pulling in kernel-image, kernel-
> > > headers, then restarting to 4.16 to recovery mode, uninstalling
> > > nvidia-driver and then reinstalling the n
When I use something like Debian 9 netinst, without a network, I use the
Command Line, through Text Console 1-6, accessible via Alt-F1 through
Alt-F6.
This is what I have been using (when needed) since I first encountered
Linux, in the early 1990's.
This is the original way of conversing with Lin
Hi Henrique,
Thanks very much for detailing the steps involved in getting this patch
into a stable Debian 9 release. It looks like I have to do a bunch of
testing before I file a bug to get this change into a stable Debian 9
release or even a backport.
Regards,
Dinesh
On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 7:06
On Mon 07 May 2018 at 12:34:07 +0100, jpff wrote:
> That looks interesting; it attemts to answer my deep problem about no X,
> xdm, xterm etc.
>
> My problem nowis I do not know where/how to apply this. I have not seen any
> mention of a kernel command line in the net install. More please!
We
Hi,
Richard Owlett wrote:
> richard@debian-jan13:~$ stat / | fgrep Device
> Device: 80eh/2062d Inode: 2 Links: 22
> richard@debian-jan13:~$ stat /media | fgrep Device
> Device: 80eh/2062d Inode: 131073 Links: 5
"/media" was not the directory to examine.
You need to exami
Richard Owlett wrote:
> [...]
> I suspect long term I want "rsync" [ *MUCH* reading to do! ]
Perhaps; although depending on the source / target pathing, you may run
into the same length issues.
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On 2018-05-06 at 21:47, David Griffith wrote:
> Could we start the process of identifying packages that have
> dependencies on systemd in some way that is are not actually
> required?
This is a seriously nontrivial task.
As I understand matters, the only sure way to do it would be something like
That looks interesting; it attemts to answer my deep problem about no X,
xdm, xterm etc.
My problem nowis I do not know where/how to apply this. I have not seen
any mention of a kernel command line in the net install. More please!
And thank you all who pointed me at the non-free installer f
On 05/06/2018 10:11 AM, Thomas Schmitt wrote:
Hi,
Richard Owlett wrote:
Thought I was doing that by specifying -x.
Either cp -x has a bug or the target directory is not in a different
filesystem than "/" and not a mount point of such a filesystem.
Check the device numbers of "/" and "/media/
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On Mon, May 07, 2018 at 08:15:41AM +, David Griffith wrote:
> On Mon, 7 May 2018, Andy Smith wrote:
>
> >Hi David,
> >
> >On Mon, May 07, 2018 at 06:32:16AM +, David Griffith wrote:
> >>How many packages are there that could possibly need to b
On Mon, 7 May 2018, Andy Smith wrote:
Hi David,
On Mon, May 07, 2018 at 06:32:16AM +, David Griffith wrote:
How many packages are there that could possibly need to be linked against
systemd?
Are you going to provide us with any examples of packages you think
are needlessly linked against
In my saga of limiting the damage from remnents of systemd, I'm focusing
in on libsystemd0. I want to allow only libsystemd0 to be upgradable and
forbid the installation and/or upgrading of anything else matching
*systemd*.
Here's what I did so far:
Following http://without-systemd.org/wik
Hi David,
On Mon, May 07, 2018 at 06:32:16AM +, David Griffith wrote:
> How many packages are there that could possibly need to be linked against
> systemd?
Are you going to provide us with any examples of packages you think
are needlessly linked against systemd? I expect there are some, but
David Griffith writes:
> On Sun, 6 May 2018, The Wanderer wrote:
>> On 2018-05-06 at 21:25, David Griffith wrote:
>>
>>> What's the point of allowing libsystemd0 to exist when systemd has
>>> been purged?
>>
>> So that programs which interface with systemd can detect whether or not
>> systemd is pr
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On Mon, May 07, 2018 at 06:32:16AM +, David Griffith wrote:
> On Mon, 7 May 2018, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
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> How many packages are there that could possibly need to be linked
> against systemd?
I don't know what your question has to do with
On Mon, 07 May 2018 08:14:05 +0200
deloptes wrote:
Hello deloptes,
>1/3 or 2/3 of it is made in Germany. So that's why it works so well -
>they produce in China, package or add some few parts in Germany and
>voilla - they sell it as made in Germany.
Hardly unique; USA, UK, etc, etc. (ad nausea
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