On 04/29/2018 03:45 PM, David Margerison wrote:
On 30 April 2018 at 04:12, Antonio A. Rendina wrote:
If you want to improve your bash skills you can read:
http://www.tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/
I suggest that to avoid poor and ancient, it would be
better to read current documents w
On Mon 30 Apr 2018 at 15:15:41 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 04/30/2018 11:58 AM, Brian wrote:
> >On Mon 30 Apr 2018 at 09:27:02 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
> >[snip]
> >>
> >>You have identified a documentation bug!
> >
> >No, I haven't. You may think *you* have, but you haven't.
> >
> >>Th
On 01/05/18 04:31, André Rodier wrote:
> Hello Debian experts,
>
> I have a kvm/libvirt installed on Debian, with a Windows 10 virtual
> machine.
> The Windows virtual machine has access the a whole disk partition,
> /dev/sda2, that I have added using the virtual machine manager.
> Because Windows
> > The Debian English-language backports wiki FAQ suggests (to find
> all backported packages on a given machine):
>
> https://backports.debian.org/FAQ/
>
I removed all backported packages. Then did apt-get autoremove. Then
removed the jessie-backports line from sources.list. I appear to have
On Mon, 30 Apr 2018 10:09:44 -0400 Roberto C. Sánchez sent:
> On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 04:18:01PM +0300, Abdullah Ramazanoglu wrote:
> >
> > AFAIK it is still there untouched in git sources, as originally
> > mentioned in the bug report
> > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=896806
> I would first use old sources.list to purge wine and follow it up
> with
> autoremove. But after that new, this time intended and correct,
> sources.list with apt-get should solve problem.
>
When you say "old" do you mean the sources.list without the jessie
backports entry? Could you explain to
On 04/30/2018 11:58 AM, Brian wrote:
On Mon 30 Apr 2018 at 09:27:02 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
[snip]
You have identified a documentation bug!
No, I haven't. You may think *you* have, but you haven't.
The relevant line of the HTML of
https://manpages.debian.org/stretch/coreutils/ls.1.en.h
On 4/30/2018 5:00 PM, john doe wrote:
Hi Alan,
On 4/30/2018 2:54 PM, Alan Tu wrote:
John, I do enjoy giving back by documenting and reporting bugs.
:)
Is there some way, at least theoretically, that you know of to get the
text installer to record the output and the responses it think its
r
On Monday 30 April 2018 12:03:31 David Wright wrote:
> On Mon 30 Apr 2018 at 10:44:58 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Monday 30 April 2018 09:24:12 Richard Owlett wrote:
> > > Sometimes automount and cousins are convenient. Other times
> > > %@%$^$!*() ;/
> >
> > Let me clarify that, to a righ
On 04/30/2018 12:12 PM, Brian wrote:
On Mon 30 Apr 2018 at 10:01:13 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
On 04/30/2018 08:38 AM, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
On Monday, April 30, 2018 09:06:09 AM Richard Owlett wrote:
[snip]
A partial solution might include "Summer of Documentation" projects
along side
On 2018-04-30, Anil Duggirala wrote:
> hello,
> I mistakenly added an etc/apt/sources.list line for "jessie"(backports)
> instead of "stretch", which is my current release. I proceded to update
> apt and installed Wine (along with many packages, some i386) from the
> jessie-backports source (i.e.
Hi,
Reco wrote:
> $ qemu-system-mips -m 2048 -nographic
> -cdrom /tmp/debian-7.4.0-mips-netinst.iso -boot d
> qemu-system-mips: Could not load MIPS bios 'mips_bios.bin', and no -kernel
> argument was specified
Oops. I did not expect it to die so early.
> Also, that 'iso' is no way a conventiona
On 30-04-18, Brian wrote:
> On Mon 30 Apr 2018 at 11:49:33 -0500, Anil Duggirala wrote:
>
> > hello,
> > I mistakenly added an etc/apt/sources.list line for "jessie"(backports)
> > instead of "stretch", which is my current release. I proceded to update
> > apt and installed Wine (along with many p
On Mon 30 Apr 2018 at 16:18:01 +0300, Abdullah Ramazanoglu wrote:
> On Mon, 30 Apr 2018 14:24:19 +0200 to...@tuxteam.de said:
> > On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 03:00:07PM +0300, Abdullah Ramazanoglu wrote:
> > > On Mon, 30 Apr 2018 06:43:03 +0200 to...@tuxteam.de said:
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > > > It s
On Mon 30 Apr 2018 at 13:23:38 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 06:19:11PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> > On Mon 30 Apr 2018 at 10:34:23 -0500, David Wright wrote:
> > > info coreutils came up with 18696.
> >
> > Isn't 18696 the byte count?
>
> No.
>
> wooledg:~$ info coreutils
Hi.
On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 06:58:13PM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote:
> Hi,
>
> i wrote:
> > > Shouldn't there be a bootloader installed in debian_mips32b.img ?
>
> Reco wrote:
> > No. One of the oddities of QEMU's malta that nobody was able to
> > write a
> > working bootloader for it. OP i
Hi.
In-Reply-To: <3824776101913512...@scdbackup.webframe.org>
On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 06:58:13PM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote:
> Hi,
>
> i wrote:
> > > Shouldn't there be a bootloader installed in debian_mips32b.img ?
>
> Reco wrote:
> > No. One of the oddities of QEMU's malta that nobod
On Mon 30 Apr 2018 at 11:49:33 -0500, Anil Duggirala wrote:
> hello,
> I mistakenly added an etc/apt/sources.list line for "jessie"(backports)
> instead of "stretch", which is my current release. I proceded to update
> apt and installed Wine (along with many packages, some i386) from the
> jessie-
On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 06:19:11PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> On Mon 30 Apr 2018 at 10:34:23 -0500, David Wright wrote:
> > info coreutils came up with 18696.
>
> Isn't 18696 the byte count?
No.
wooledg:~$ info coreutils | wc
18696 111230 863180
On Mon 30 Apr 2018 at 10:34:23 -0500, David Wright wrote:
> On Mon 30 Apr 2018 at 11:16:46 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 10:59:03AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > On Monday 30 April 2018 10:44:56 Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > > > wooledg:~$ man ls | wc
> > > > 233
On Mon 30 Apr 2018 at 10:01:13 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 04/30/2018 08:38 AM, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Monday, April 30, 2018 09:06:09 AM Richard Owlett wrote:
> > [snip]
> > > A partial solution might include "Summer of Documentation" projects
> > > along side of "Summer of Code".
On Mon 30 Apr 2018 at 09:27:02 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 04/30/2018 08:20 AM, Brian wrote:
> > On Mon 30 Apr 2018 at 06:46:01 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
> >
> > > Debian documentation NOT written for hoi polloi.
> >
> > Strong words.
>
> BUT true!
No they are not. Valid, perhaps.
>
Hi,
i wrote:
> > Shouldn't there be a bootloader installed in debian_mips32b.img ?
Reco wrote:
> No. One of the oddities of QEMU's malta that nobody was able to write a
> working bootloader for it. OP is doing it the only way that's possible.
And he has luck to already have found somebody who ha
hello,
I mistakenly added an etc/apt/sources.list line for "jessie"(backports)
instead of "stretch", which is my current release. I proceded to update
apt and installed Wine (along with many packages, some i386) from the
jessie-backports source (i.e. apt install wine/jessie-backports).
Please tell
Thanks Reco. The concept I missed is, I need to grab the initrd and
kernel from the installed system, specifically from the /boot
directory. I know that now for all future architectures I mess with!
There are lots of ways to do the same thing, I'm just sharing. To
mount a partition inside raw disk
Hi.
On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 06:30:32PM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote:
> > # qemu-system-mips -m 2048 -rtc base=localtime -boot order=c
> > -nographic -hda debian_mips32b.img -kernel vmlinux-4.9.0-6-4kc-malta
> > -append "root=/dev/sda1"
>
> Shouldn't there be a bootloader installed in debia
Hi.
On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 07:54:56AM -0700, Alan Tu wrote:
> Hi, I'm having trouble bootting Debian 9.4 on a QEMU-emulated MIPS
> malta virtual machine. I know QEMU introduces some complexity, but I
> think my problem is more of a misunderstanding of Linux boot concepts.
> I've tried dif
Hi,
Alan Tu wrote:
> I installed Debian inside a virtual disk image.
>From outside qemu ? That could be tricky because being unusual.
Last time i installed a virtual Debian, i did something like this:
# Create virtual disk as data file
qemu-img create debian_vm_disk.qemu 32G
# Start qem
Richard Owlett writes:
> Debian documentation NOT written for hoi polloi.
>
> This morning's partial set of items I do not grok include:
>
>
> Partial output of "mount -l" is
> "/dev/sdc1 on /media/richard/rco1 type ext4
> (rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,data=ordered,uhelper=udisks2) [rco1]".
>
> { (.
On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 12:07:51PM -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
> Well, I wouldn't say it's untrue--it is sometimes (and maybe often) true--I
> don't have an example at hand, but back in the days when I did look at an
> info
> page after viewing a man page, I often found the exact same conte
On Monday, April 30, 2018 10:44:56 AM Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 10:37:22AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > as those files appear to be made by just copying the man
> > page into the info format.
>
> That's untrue. Compare a GNU info page to the same tool's GNU man page
> and
On Mon 30 Apr 2018 at 10:44:58 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Monday 30 April 2018 09:24:12 Richard Owlett wrote:
> > Sometimes automount and cousins are convenient. Other times %@%$^$!*()
> > ;/
> >
> Let me clarify that, to a right Pain In The Ass when trying to write an
> armhf or arm64 sys
Hi,
I forked boost and make some updates for version 1.67.0 and add asio and
beast libraries. The result is here:
https://salsa.debian.org/avalchev-guest/boost.
I have problems with dpk-buildpackage command:
https://salsa.debian.org/snippets/54.
Do you have any idea what's wrong ?
On Mon 30 Apr 2018 at 11:16:46 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 10:59:03AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Monday 30 April 2018 10:44:56 Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > > wooledg:~$ man ls | wc
> > > 233 9117823
> > > wooledg:~$ info coreutils ls | wc
> > > 835
On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 10:59:03AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Monday 30 April 2018 10:44:56 Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > wooledg:~$ man ls | wc
> > 233 9117823
> > wooledg:~$ info coreutils ls | wc
> > 8354551 34791
> >
> > In this example, the info page is about 4 times as l
On Monday 30 April 2018 10:09:44 Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 04:18:01PM +0300, Abdullah Ramazanoglu wrote:
> > AFAIK it is still there untouched in git sources, as originally
> > mentioned in the bug report
> > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=896806
> >
>
On Mon 30 Apr 2018 at 06:46:01 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote:
> Debian documentation NOT written for hoi polloi.
>
> I've been trying to debug my usage of debootstrap.
> Therefore been reading many man pages - often with incomplete comprehension.
> E.G. In reply to one of my questions a gentleman
On 04/30/2018 08:38 AM, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
On Monday, April 30, 2018 09:06:09 AM Richard Owlett wrote:
[snip]
A partial solution might include "Summer of Documentation" projects
along side of "Summer of Code".
Yes, or encouraging people to contribute to HowTos, wikis, the Linux
Document
Hi Alan,
On 4/30/2018 2:54 PM, Alan Tu wrote:
John, I do enjoy giving back by documenting and reporting bugs.
:)
Is there some way, at least theoretically, that you know of to get the
text installer to record the output and the responses it think its
receiving? There's going to be an issue
On Monday 30 April 2018 10:44:56 Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 10:37:22AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > The recommendation to get the full story via info/pinfo is a
> > running joke
>
> This is specific to the GNU project. They're pushing their "info"
> reader and their "texinfo
Hi, I'm having trouble bootting Debian 9.4 on a QEMU-emulated MIPS
malta virtual machine. I know QEMU introduces some complexity, but I
think my problem is more of a misunderstanding of Linux boot concepts.
I've tried different permutations, and reading, but am stuck.
I installed Debian inside a v
On Monday 30 April 2018 09:24:12 Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 04/30/2018 07:27 AM, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Oh, and PS: it is not very clear to me in what you wrote what you
> > are having trouble understanding -- if you are seeking answers,
> > maybe you should ask more clearly.
> >
> > From
On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 10:37:22AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> The recommendation to get the full story via info/pinfo is a
> running joke
This is specific to the GNU project. They're pushing their "info" reader
and their "texinfo" documentation format for their own political reasons.
(To be ho
On Monday 30 April 2018 09:06:09 Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 04/30/2018 07:23 AM, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Monday, April 30, 2018 07:46:01 AM Richard Owlett wrote:
> >> Debian documentation NOT written for hoi polloi.
> >
> > ...
> >
> >> Man pages by their nature/purpose assume a certain l
On 04/30/2018 08:20 AM, Brian wrote:
On Mon 30 Apr 2018 at 06:46:01 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
Debian documentation NOT written for hoi polloi.
Strong words.
BUT true!
[...]
Output of "ls -Rdl /media/richard/rco1" is
"drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Apr 28 23:49 /media/richard/rco1".
On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 04:18:01PM +0300, Abdullah Ramazanoglu wrote:
>
> AFAIK it is still there untouched in git sources, as originally mentioned in
> the bug report https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=896806
>
> That aside, the question of whether it will ever get fixed in upstre
On Monday, April 30, 2018 09:06:09 AM Richard Owlett wrote:
> PREACH it brother. I've made similar comments in the past.
> The problem on this list is that newbies are often told
> "*READ THE MANUAL!*"
> as if it were a panacea.
True, I guess I always (well, usually) tried to interpret
On 04/30/2018 07:27 AM, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
Oh, and PS: it is not very clear to me in what you wrote what you are having
trouble understanding -- if you are seeking answers, maybe you should ask more
clearly.
From my peanut gallery observation of this thread, I think one of your
problems
On Mon 30 Apr 2018 at 06:46:01 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
> Debian documentation NOT written for hoi polloi.
Strong words.
[...]
> Output of "ls -Rdl /media/richard/rco1" is
> "drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Apr 28 23:49 /media/richard/rco1".
>
> { In "drwxr-xr-x 3", what do "d" and "3" tell m
On 04/30/2018 07:23 AM, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
On Monday, April 30, 2018 07:46:01 AM Richard Owlett wrote:
Debian documentation NOT written for hoi polloi.
...
Man pages by their nature/purpose assume a certain level of expertise.
They can be daunting for the uninitiated.
Comments?
Tru
On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 03:09:15PM +0200, Simon Beirnaert wrote:
> Hi Recently I've started moving a fleet of Debian 7, 32-bit machines over to
> Debian 9, 64-bit. This migration is done by creating a fresh Debian 9 image
> with the necessary services, moving over user data (some wars and the
> con
John, I do enjoy giving back by documenting and reporting bugs.
Is there some way, at least theoretically, that you know of to get the
text installer to record the output and the responses it think its
receiving? There's going to be an issue if the media is read-only and
it can't write files, that
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Hash: SHA1
On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 03:00:07PM +0300, Abdullah Ramazanoglu wrote:
> On Mon, 30 Apr 2018 06:43:03 +0200 to...@tuxteam.de said:
[...]
> > It seems this issue is fixed upstream. Would you like to check that?
> >
> > Tone down. Apply Hanlon's razor
Oh, and PS: it is not very clear to me in what you wrote what you are having
trouble understanding -- if you are seeking answers, maybe you should ask more
clearly.
From my peanut gallery observation of this thread, I think one of your
problems is that the device you are tying to use (to instal
On Monday, April 30, 2018 07:46:01 AM Richard Owlett wrote:
> Debian documentation NOT written for hoi polloi.
...
> Man pages by their nature/purpose assume a certain level of expertise.
> They can be daunting for the uninitiated.
>
> Comments?
True. Have you read one or more general introduc
Debian documentation NOT written for hoi polloi.
I've been trying to debug my usage of debootstrap.
Therefore been reading many man pages - often with incomplete comprehension.
E.G. In reply to one of my questions a gentleman replied with the proper
syntax for one command. He followed it with se
Hi,
on my laptop (with Stretch) anacron for some reason refuses to work, which
I only noticed initially when I discovered that the syslog had become
rather huge, so apparently logrotate had not been performed for months.
cron itself is working, which I can tell by a custom script
in /etc/cron.hou
On 4/30/2018 12:01 PM, Alan Tu wrote:
Thanks John for confirming how things are supposed to work, that helps
because it narrows things down and I don't need to wonder what is the
correct way. In MIPS it turns out choices 10 11 is the default.
Problem averted/bypassed.
We're not going to solve it
Thanks John for confirming how things are supposed to work, that helps
because it narrows things down and I don't need to wonder what is the
correct way. In MIPS it turns out choices 10 11 is the default.
Problem averted/bypassed.
We're not going to solve it here, but its still weird. Entering 10
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