Re: domain names, was: hostname

2018-03-20 Thread Richard Hector
On 21/03/18 12:07, Brian wrote: [re inability to connect to remote SMTP servers] > You are in an unfortunate position of being deprived of the freedom to > decide how to deal with your own communications. [snip] > I am a user of the network, whether I am at home or not. I have no > better acces

Re: Missing Shared Object File for ffmpeg

2018-03-20 Thread Dan Norton
On Tue, 20 Mar 2018 18:35:48 -0500 David Wright wrote: > On Tue 20 Mar 2018 at 18:41:55 (-0400), Dan Norton wrote: > > On Tue, 20 Mar 2018 13:42:24 -0500 > > David Wright wrote: > > > > > On Tue 20 Mar 2018 at 13:47:42 (-0400), Dan Norton wrote: > > > > On Tue, 20 Mar 2018 12:59:21 -0400 >

Re: More then 2800 spams from the list...

2018-03-20 Thread Brian
On Tue 20 Mar 2018 at 20:54:47 +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote: > Am 2018-03-20 hackte Joe in die Tasten: [...] > > This has reduced with the decline of small (and > > large!) businesses running their own private SMTP servers but > > downloading their mail from a single shared external POP3 accoun

Re: Missing Shared Object File for ffmpeg

2018-03-20 Thread David Wright
On Tue 20 Mar 2018 at 18:41:55 (-0400), Dan Norton wrote: > On Tue, 20 Mar 2018 13:42:24 -0500 > David Wright wrote: > > > On Tue 20 Mar 2018 at 13:47:42 (-0400), Dan Norton wrote: > > > On Tue, 20 Mar 2018 12:59:21 -0400 > > > Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 12:18:

Re: Federated, decentralised communication on the internet (was: domain names, was: hostname)

2018-03-20 Thread Forest Dean Feighner
Right on! I used to have an email server in the 90's and even hand wrote the sendmail config file, lol. Shell account, of course, at the local ISP. On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 7:13 PM, Forest Dean Feighner < forest.feigh...@gmail.com> wrote: > Right on! I used to have an email server in the 90's an

Re: domain names, was: hostname

2018-03-20 Thread Brian
On Tue 20 Mar 2018 at 17:07:47 -0500, David Wright wrote: > On Fri 23 Feb 2018 at 16:18:29 (+), Brian wrote: > > On Thu 22 Feb 2018 at 11:58:18 -0600, David Wright wrote: > > > > > On Mon 19 Feb 2018 at 18:39:02 (+), Brian wrote: > > > > On Mon 19 Feb 2018 at 10:23:56 -0600, David Wright

Re: How to correctly select gcc / why dkms rebuild failed on xtables-addons

2018-03-20 Thread David Wright
On Tue 20 Mar 2018 at 23:18:29 (+0100), Neo wrote: > Hey folks > > I've had a setup with xtables-addons running (on jessie with > standard repos), especially the geoip module in this case. The > normal upgrade path installed gcc-4.9 and broke my dkms setup and in > turn my iptables setup. So it fe

Federated, decentralised communication on the internet (was: domain names, was: hostname)

2018-03-20 Thread Ben Finney
David Wright writes: > I don't understand why a home user would not be using a smarthost. > Perhaps we're talking about a different group of people. Why would a > home user want to relay mail rather than submit it to a smarthost? First, note that even if you don't know the reason why someone wou

Re: Missing Shared Object File for ffmpeg

2018-03-20 Thread Dan Norton
On Tue, 20 Mar 2018 13:42:24 -0500 David Wright wrote: > On Tue 20 Mar 2018 at 13:47:42 (-0400), Dan Norton wrote: > > On Tue, 20 Mar 2018 12:59:21 -0400 > > Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > > On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 12:18:05PM -0400, Dan Norton wrote: > > > > > * The output of "apt policy ffm

How to correctly select gcc / why dkms rebuild failed on xtables-addons

2018-03-20 Thread Neo
Hey folks I've had a setup with xtables-addons running (on jessie with standard repos), especially the geoip module in this case. The normal upgrade path installed gcc-4.9 and broke my dkms setup and in turn my iptables setup. So it fell back on my fail2ban protection against ssh scripts. /u

Re: domain names, was: hostname

2018-03-20 Thread David Wright
On Fri 23 Feb 2018 at 16:18:29 (+), Brian wrote: > On Thu 22 Feb 2018 at 11:58:18 -0600, David Wright wrote: > > > On Mon 19 Feb 2018 at 18:39:02 (+), Brian wrote: > > > On Mon 19 Feb 2018 at 10:23:56 -0600, David Wright wrote: > > > > > > > 127.0.0.1 localhost > > > > 127.0.1.1

Re: Missing Shared Object File for ffmpeg

2018-03-20 Thread Dan Norton
On Tue, 20 Mar 2018 19:02:23 +0100 wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 01:47:42PM -0400, Dan Norton wrote: > > [...] > > > > apt-get --reinstall install libopenal1 > > > > > > > That did it - thanks, Greg! > > My guess would be that libo

Re: Printing impossible

2018-03-20 Thread Brian
On Mon 19 Mar 2018 at 15:25:41 +, Brian wrote: > On Mon 19 Mar 2018 at 14:52:25 +, Curt wrote: > > > On 2018-03-19, Brian wrote: > > >> > > >> How do I do it? Editing the ppd? In a commandline switch of cups-filter? > > > > > > Using the CUPS web interface at localhost:631 is easiest. >

Re: Missing Shared Object File for ffmpeg

2018-03-20 Thread David Wright
On Tue 20 Mar 2018 at 13:47:42 (-0400), Dan Norton wrote: > On Tue, 20 Mar 2018 12:59:21 -0400 > Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 12:18:05PM -0400, Dan Norton wrote: > > > > * The output of "apt policy ffmpeg". > > > > > > ffmpeg: > > > Installed: 7:3.2.10-1~deb9u1 > > >

Re: Missing Shared Object File for ffmpeg

2018-03-20 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 01:47:42PM -0400, Dan Norton wrote: [...] > > apt-get --reinstall install libopenal1 > > > > That did it - thanks, Greg! My guess would be that libopenal1 (the package) was installed, but the library (the file) has been so

Re: Missing Shared Object File for ffmpeg

2018-03-20 Thread Dan Norton
On Tue, 20 Mar 2018 12:59:21 -0400 Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 12:18:05PM -0400, Dan Norton wrote: > > > * The output of "apt policy ffmpeg". > > > > ffmpeg: > > Installed: 7:3.2.10-1~deb9u1 > > Candidate: 7:3.2.10-1~deb9u1 > > Version table: > > *** 7:3.2.10-1~deb9u

Re: Ideal place to set environment variables

2018-03-20 Thread Subhadip Ghosh
Hello Ben, Your login manager invokes the correct script based on the selected desktop, and your personal one in ~/.config/xfce4/xinitrc takes precedence over /etc/xdg/xfce4/xinitrc . The last line just tells sh to source (run) the official /etc/xdg/xfce4/xinitrc , but you get to set your env

Re: Missing Shared Object File for ffmpeg

2018-03-20 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 12:18:05PM -0400, Dan Norton wrote: > > * The output of "apt policy ffmpeg". > > ffmpeg: > Installed: 7:3.2.10-1~deb9u1 > Candidate: 7:3.2.10-1~deb9u1 > Version table: > *** 7:3.2.10-1~deb9u1 500 > 500 http://debian.gtisc.gatech.edu/debian stretch/main amd64

Re: Missing Shared Object File for ffmpeg

2018-03-20 Thread David Wright
On Tue 20 Mar 2018 at 15:57:03 (+), Curt wrote: > On 2018-03-20, David Wright wrote: > >> > >> Yes the package is libopenal1. I don't have the package in Stretch, > >> though ffmpeg is installed. > > > > In my ftp.us.debian.org_debian_dists_stretch_main_binary-amd64_Packages > > (39116092 Mar

Re: Missing Shared Object File for ffmpeg

2018-03-20 Thread Dan Norton
On Tue, 20 Mar 2018 08:41:40 -0400 Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 10:12:41AM +, Curt wrote: > > On 2018-03-20, wrote: > > > Now the interesting question would be: in *both* your stretches? > > > > It is interesting maybe. I don't understand it, though. > > Basically

Re: Missing Shared Object File for ffmpeg

2018-03-20 Thread Curt
On 2018-03-20, David Wright wrote: >> >> Yes the package is libopenal1. I don't have the package in Stretch, >> though ffmpeg is installed. > > In my ftp.us.debian.org_debian_dists_stretch_main_binary-amd64_Packages > (39116092 Mar 10 03:33) ffmpeg says: > > Package: ffmpeg > and libavdevice57

Re: Missing Shared Object File for ffmpeg

2018-03-20 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 09:50:53AM -0500, David Wright wrote: > In my ftp.us.debian.org_debian_dists_stretch_main_binary-amd64_Packages > (39116092 Mar 10 03:33) ffmpeg says: > > Package: ffmpeg > Version: 7:3.2.10-1~deb9u1 > Installed-Size: 2137 > Maintainer: Debian Multimedia Maintainers > > A

Re: Missing Shared Object File for ffmpeg

2018-03-20 Thread David Wright
On Tue 20 Mar 2018 at 08:41:05 (+), Curt wrote: > On 2018-03-20, wrote: > > > > Try "apt-file search" (in package apt-file): > > > > tomas@trotzki:~$ apt-file search libopenal.so.1 > > libopenal1: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libopenal.so.1 > > libopenal1: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libopen

Re: Missing Shared Object File for ffmpeg

2018-03-20 Thread Curt
On 2018-03-20, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 10:12:41AM +, Curt wrote: >> On 2018-03-20, wrote: >> > Now the interesting question would be: in *both* your stretches? >> >> It is interesting maybe. I don't understand it, though. > > Basically, you're not supplying enough in

Re: More then 2800 spams from the list...

2018-03-20 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 08:30:50AM -0500, David Wright wrote: > On Tue 20 Mar 2018 at 08:28:20 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > > P.S. someone said that bounces are generated using the Reply-To: header. > > This is incorrect (or at least, would be a violation of the protocols). > > Bounces are sent

Re: More then 2800 spams from the list...

2018-03-20 Thread David Wright
On Tue 20 Mar 2018 at 08:28:20 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > P.S. someone said that bounces are generated using the Reply-To: header. > This is incorrect (or at least, would be a violation of the protocols). > Bounces are sent to the envelope sender address (the one given by the > sender during t

Re: Missing Shared Object File for ffmpeg

2018-03-20 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 10:12:41AM +, Curt wrote: > On 2018-03-20, wrote: > > Now the interesting question would be: in *both* your stretches? > > It is interesting maybe. I don't understand it, though. Basically, you're not supplying enough information to diagnose the problem. We would n

Re: More then 2800 spams from the list...

2018-03-20 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 09:21:03AM +, Joe wrote: > A SMTP server, by default, accepts email only for recipients which have > an account on it. If only. No, that's part of the problem. An SMTP server, *by default*, has no knowledge of which local-recipient-parts are valid and which are not.

Re: Debian stretch -- Installation Guide?

2018-03-20 Thread Richard Owlett
On 03/20/2018 06:04 AM, Dominique Dumont wrote: On Monday, 19 March 2018 16:43:21 CET Richard Owlett wrote: It's better, but with an HTML document I can simply coerce the document to display with a comfortably readable font and I find the existence of functional internal links extremely useful f

Re: Debian stretch -- Installation Guide?

2018-03-20 Thread Dominique Dumont
On Monday, 19 March 2018 16:43:21 CET Richard Owlett wrote: > It's better, but with an HTML document I can simply coerce the document > to display with a comfortably readable font and I find the existence of > functional internal links extremely useful for how I read that type of > document. This

Re: Missing Shared Object File for ffmpeg

2018-03-20 Thread Curt
On 2018-03-20, wrote: > >> Yes the package is libopenal1. I don't have the package in Stretch, >> though ffmpeg is installed. > > I take "you don't have the package in Stretch" to mean "in your box > it isn't installed", because the package does exist in Stretch (at > least in my little corner of

Re: More then 2800 spams from the list...

2018-03-20 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 09:21:03AM +, Joe wrote: > On Tue, 20 Mar 2018 08:52:48 +0100 > wrote: > > > > > > > "never" is too strong a word. This is a corollary of the fundamental > > law "all generalizations suck". > > > How do you determine the

Re: More then 2800 spams from the list...

2018-03-20 Thread Joe
On Tue, 20 Mar 2018 08:52:48 +0100 wrote: > > > "never" is too strong a word. This is a corollary of the fundamental > law "all generalizations suck". > How do you determine the exceptions? A SMTP server, by default, accepts email only for recipients which have an account on it. Aliases can b

Re: Missing Shared Object File for ffmpeg

2018-03-20 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 08:41:05AM +, Curt wrote: > On 2018-03-20, wrote: > > > > Try "apt-file search" (in package apt-file): > > > > tomas@trotzki:~$ apt-file search libopenal.so.1 > > libopenal1: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libopenal.so.1 >

Re: Missing Shared Object File for ffmpeg

2018-03-20 Thread Curt
On 2018-03-20, wrote: > > Try "apt-file search" (in package apt-file): > > tomas@trotzki:~$ apt-file search libopenal.so.1 > libopenal1: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libopenal.so.1 > libopenal1: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libopenal.so.1.17.2 > > I guess libopenal gets loaded on-demand as a plug

Re: Missing Shared Object File for ffmpeg

2018-03-20 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 09:38:57PM -0400, Dan Norton wrote: > I have two stretch systems, named deb4 and deb9. Both were installed > via netinst, have the latest apt update; apt upgrade, and report: > > $ uname -v > #1 SMP Debian 4.9.82-1+deb9u3 (2018

Re: More then 2800 spams from the list...

2018-03-20 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 10:21:57PM +, Joe wrote: [...] > > This is precisely why e-mail server should never send bounces to > > non-local senders. When sender is spoofed as in this case then is hit > > with thousands of DSNs. [delivery status no