SSL inspection

Reco: Browsers do certificate validation, "wrong IP address" would be possible if the third party somehow produced a valid certificate for wiki.debian.org (you have to be a CA *or* the government to do this) and faked a DNS record (that's easy part). One can also do it if one is the person's

failed to set console font and keymap

Anil Duggirala: Actually, the error says. "Failed to start Set console font and keymap". That is the description of a service. Read the journal with systemctl status and journalctl to see what has been logged about why it has failed.

Re: What is available for setting services to run levels

Harry Putnam: What tools do we have for setting services to run levels As of Debian 8, you are using a systemd operating system. Forget about runlevels. They are, as the systemd doco says several times over, "obsolete". * https://unix.stackexchange.com/a/196014/5132 * https://unix.stacke

nosh version 1.37

The nosh package is now up to version 1.37 . * http://jdebp.eu./Softwares/nosh/ * https://www.freebsd.org/news/status/report-2017-07-2017-09.html#The-nosh-Project * http://jdebp.info./Softwares/nosh/ Some of the changes in this release are works in progress, that you will see

djbwares version 7

djbwares is now at version 7. * http://jdebp.eu./Softwares/djbwares/ * http://jdebp.info./Softwares/djbwares/ There are only a few changes. A common build problem across several toolsets that occurs if one has set a |CDPATH|, has been fixed. |dnscache| now has a |FORWARDFIRST| mode

redo version 1.4

redo is now at version 1.4 * http://jdebp.eu./Softwares/redo/ The only change from 1.3 is a belt-and-braces protection mechanism that prevents cleanup code from being told to delete a parent directory.

Re: is this a bug of startx?

On Sun 18 Feb 2018 at 03:20:11 (+), Long Wind wrote: > maybe few users still use startx?at first i found some strange problems with > stretchand unable to run X > now i'm able to describe the problemafter i install twm , i can't run > startxthen i create .xinitrc: > xterm & > twm > and it sol

Re: Multiple independent terminals on a single machinde

On Sat 17 Feb 2018 at 17:38:00 (-0800), David Christensen wrote: > On 02/17/18 11:32, Richard Owlett wrote: > >On 02/17/2018 01:19 PM, David Christensen wrote: > >>On 02/17/18 04:46, Richard Owlett wrote: > >>>On 02/17/2018 01:57 AM, deloptes wrote: > Richard Owlett wrote: > > >Therefo

Re: Multiple independent terminals on a single machinde

On 02/17/18 11:32, Richard Owlett wrote: On 02/17/2018 01:19 PM, David Christensen wrote: On 02/17/18 04:46, Richard Owlett wrote: On 02/17/2018 01:57 AM, deloptes wrote: Richard Owlett wrote: Therefore I'll change my metaphor. It is routine for one machine to support multiple independent t

Re: Stretch net install on EeePC - unable to resolve mirror host address

On Saturday 17 February 2018 19:48:20 Rodary Jacques wrote: > Le samedi 17 février 2018, 16:20:06 CET Roger Price a écrit : > > I am trying to net install stretch i386 on an EeePC using a wired > > connection. I chose my ISP as the mirror, but the installation hangs > > on "Configure the packet ma

Re: Stretch net install on EeePC - unable to resolve mirror host address

On Saturday 17 February 2018 18:35:10 Brian wrote: > On Sat 17 Feb 2018 at 18:27:57 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Saturday 17 February 2018 18:13:33 Brian wrote: > > > On Sat 17 Feb 2018 at 22:21:49 +0100, Roger Price wrote: > > > > On Sat, 17 Feb 2018, Brian wrote: > > > > > > ~ # cat /etc/r

Re: Stretch net install on EeePC - unable to resolve mirror host address

Le samedi 17 février 2018, 16:20:06 CET Roger Price a écrit : > I am trying to net install stretch i386 on an EeePC using a wired connection. > I > chose my ISP as the mirror, but the installation hangs on "Configure the > packet > management tool (APT)" [french text reads "Configurer l'outil d

Re: Stretch net install on EeePC - unable to resolve mirror host address

On Sat 17 Feb 2018 at 18:27:57 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Saturday 17 February 2018 18:13:33 Brian wrote: > > > On Sat 17 Feb 2018 at 22:21:49 +0100, Roger Price wrote: > > > On Sat, 17 Feb 2018, Brian wrote: > > > > > ~ # cat /etc/resolv.conf > > > > > search rogerprice.org > > > > > nam

Re: Stretch net install on EeePC - unable to resolve mirror host address

On Saturday 17 February 2018 18:13:33 Brian wrote: > On Sat 17 Feb 2018 at 22:21:49 +0100, Roger Price wrote: > > On Sat, 17 Feb 2018, Brian wrote: > > > > ~ # cat /etc/resolv.conf > > > > search rogerprice.org > > > > nameserver 10.218.0.1 > > > > > > > > I am using the same router and the sam

Re: Stretch net install on EeePC - unable to resolve mirror host address

On Sat 17 Feb 2018 at 22:21:49 +0100, Roger Price wrote: > On Sat, 17 Feb 2018, Brian wrote: > > > > ~ # cat /etc/resolv.conf > > > search rogerprice.org > > > nameserver 10.218.0.1 > > > > > > I am using the same router and the same name server to post this message. > > > > I would try ping

troubleshooting Kmail

Ernst, Things that come to mind... The way IMAP works is e-mail is delivered to the mail server (google/gmail, is what I think you said). Your client (kmail, thunderbird, etc) reads an email message from the server. Then, depending on configuration, the message is saved or deleted? So, check y

Re: [ROFL] cross product [CAVEAT LECTOR] -- Re: [likely out of luck]

You can map it all to two dimensions. I can think of my system as consisting a square array of 4 workspaces each subdivided into 16 panes so that becomes an 8x8 array of panes. I find the 3D view more convenient, though. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: Stretch net install on EeePC - unable to resolve mirror host address

On Saturday 17 February 2018 16:21:49 Roger Price wrote: > On Sat, 17 Feb 2018, Brian wrote: > >> ~ # cat /etc/resolv.conf > >> search rogerprice.org > >> nameserver 10.218.0.1 > >> > >> I am using the same router and the same name server to post this > >> message. > > > > I would try pinging w

Re: [likely out of luck]

Thomas Schmitt writes: > So the visible window title might be a good first guess. That usually works, but be careful. Some ornery applications ignore Unix and X11 conventions and resources and/or retitle themselves. Firefox is a prime example. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: [ROFL] cross product [CAVEAT LECTOR]

Hi, > Any one familiar with "Flatland" ? Obviously stolen from Futurama by temporal espionage. https://i1.wp.com/37prime.com/news/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Futurama-2-D-Blacktop.jpg Have a nice day :) Thomas

[ROFL] cross product [CAVEAT LECTOR] -- Re: [likely out of luck]

If you think that subject line is weird U B right It was intentional ;/ I just closed tooo many windows. Someone had just referred me to two Wikipedia articles with 2-dimensional pictorial representations of a multi-dimensional problem. Any one familiar with "Flatland"

Re: [likely out of luck]

Hi, John Hasler wrote: > An icon is a window. Windows are only sticky if you make them so. Ahum ... i see this line in my configuration Style "*" StickyIcon and man fvwm says StickyIcon makes the window sticky when it's iconified. It de-iconifies on top the active desktop. SlipperyI

Re: troubleshooting Kmail

On Saturday, February 17, 2018 3:59:53 PM EST ernst doubt wrote: > I sent a similar message to debian-kde this morning, but it appears there's > not much activity there, so I figured I'd also try here. > > I've been a debian GNU/linux user (I like KDE for my desktop, though I > generally keep open

requesting assistance troubleshooting Kmail

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Apologies if this turns out to be a duplicate message. I tried to send to the list using my problematic Kmail client (and a message appeared in my sent mail folder) but so far I don't see it having posted when I look at the web archives for debian-us

Re: Stretch net install on EeePC - unable to resolve mirror host address

On Sat, 17 Feb 2018, Brian wrote: ~ # cat /etc/resolv.conf search rogerprice.org nameserver 10.218.0.1 I am using the same router and the same name server to post this message. I would try pinging www.debian.org and anywhere else you can think of. Or edit resolv.conf to have 8.8.8.8 (a Goo

Re: [likely out of luck]

Thomas Schmitt writes: > It seems you are looking for non-sticky icons. I'm not sure whether i > could talk fvwm2 into doing that. An icon is a window. Windows are only sticky if you make them so. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: Stretch net install on EeePC - unable to resolve mirror host address

On Sat, 17 Feb 2018, Curt wrote: On 2018-02-17, Reco wrote: First, please don't get me wrong, but can you provide the output of (regular box, of course): wget -S --spider https://wiki.debian.org There have been some reports from people using your ISP that this page does not work for them some

Re: [likely out of luck]

Hi, Richard Owlett wrote: > I'm getting the impression that: > 1. a window manager can manage several desktops. > 2. each desktop may or may not have an associated desktop environment. Be careful with the term "desktop". It is used in several differing meanings. From "screenful of stuff" to "hi

Re: [likely out of luck]

On Sat 17 Feb 2018 at 13:22:52 (-0600), Richard Owlett wrote: > On 02/17/2018 10:13 AM, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > >Google for "fvwm2rc". It is rewarding to add the word "examples". > > > >My experience with installing Debian package fvwm2 two years ago would > >have been much worse if i did not have

troubleshooting Kmail

I sent a similar message to debian-kde this morning, but it appears there's not much activity there, so I figured I'd also try here. I've been a debian GNU/linux user (I like KDE for my desktop, though I generally keep openbox (and gnome) available as "fallbacks") for quite some time now (decad

Re: Stretch net install on EeePC - unable to resolve mirror host address

Hello, On Sat, Feb 17, 2018 at 10:34:10PM +0300, Reco wrote: > Weird, isn't it? Someone responsible to wiki.debian.org blocked the > whole 78.192.0.0/10 subnet (AS12322), so it seems. In it was suggested to report such things to w...@de

Re: [likely out of luck]

See and The basic difference, though, is that a desktop environment tries to enforce uniformity and coordinated aesthetics on all applications in the Microsoft and Apple way while a window manager m

Re: Stretch net install on EeePC - unable to resolve mirror host address

Hi. On Sat, Feb 17, 2018 at 06:52:43PM +, Curt wrote: > On 2018-02-17, Reco wrote: > > > > First, please don't get me wrong, but can you provide the output of > > (regular box, of course): > > > > wget -S --spider https://wiki.debian.org > > > > There have been some reports from peopl

Re: Multiple independent terminals on a single machinde

On 02/17/2018 01:19 PM, David Christensen wrote: On 02/17/18 04:46, Richard Owlett wrote: On 02/17/2018 01:57 AM, deloptes wrote: Richard Owlett wrote: Therefore I'll change my metaphor. It is routine for one machine to support multiple independent terminals. Logically one expect that those

Re: failed to set console font and keymap

On 2018-02-16, Anil Duggirala wrote: > All I did was change "us" for "gb" in my /etc/default/keyboard file. I > am now getting a "failed to set console font and keymap" message at > bootup. The default keymap appears to have been changed, and everything > works well otherwise. > please help. > We

Re: [likely out of luck]

On 02/17/2018 10:13 AM, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Hi, Richard Owlet wrote: Is there a recommended site that gives a good description of why and how one would use [FVWM] {similar to what does for KDE}? John Hasler wrote:

Re: Multiple independent terminals on a single machinde

On 02/17/18 04:46, Richard Owlett wrote: On 02/17/2018 01:57 AM, deloptes wrote: Richard Owlett wrote: Therefore I'll change my metaphor. It is routine for one machine to support multiple independent terminals. Logically one expect that those terminals could appear on the host device. How m

Re: Debian New Guy

I'm new to systemd/systemctl as well. I had a long delay with NetworkManager-wait-online.service and the delay referred me to systemctl systemctl feels more like working with a database. Interesting system to get acquainted with. On Sat, Feb 17, 2018 at 1:54 PM, john doe wrote: > On 2/17/201

Re: Firefox too slow when opening new window or typing in the URL

On 2018-02-17, deloptes wrote: >> > https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/refresh-firefox-reset-add-ons-and-settings > > I tried this now, so it says in the first paragraph: > > If you're having problems with Firefox, refreshing it can help. The refresh > feature fixes many issues by restoring Fire

Re: Stretch net install on EeePC - unable to resolve mirror host address

On 2018-02-17, Reco wrote: > > First, please don't get me wrong, but can you provide the output of > (regular box, of course): > > wget -S --spider https://wiki.debian.org > > There have been some reports from people using your ISP that this page > does not work for them somehow, and I'm too lazy

Re: Debian New Guy

On 2/17/2018 1:53 PM, Jeffrin Jose wrote: are you looking for path of a command ?  "whereis  systemctl"may be "systemd" is starting point for all scripts during startupcheck "cd /etc/init.d/"  which is atleast one place for startup scripts For service files: /lib/systemd/system -- John Doe

Re: Stretch net install on EeePC - unable to resolve mirror host address

On Sat 17 Feb 2018 at 16:20:06 +0100, Roger Price wrote: > I am trying to net install stretch i386 on an EeePC using a wired > connection. I chose my ISP as the mirror, but the installation hangs on > "Configure the packet management tool (APT)" [french text reads "Configurer > l'outil de gestion

Re: Firefox too slow when opening new window or typing in the URL

Liam O'Toole wrote: > On 2018-02-17, deloptes wrote: > > [...] > >> Might be I need to clean up and see if it makes a difference >> >> thanks > > After 15 years, probably yes. I suggest you consider a refresh[1]. Make > sure you understand what will be kept and what will be discarded, and > ho

Re: Firefox too slow when opening new window or typing in the URL

Liam O'Toole wrote: > After 15 years, probably yes. I suggest you consider a refresh[1]. Make > sure you understand what will be kept and what will be discarded, and > how to recover the previous state of your profile if necessary. Hi, thanks for the link. This is probably exactly what I need to

Re: Stretch net install on EeePC - unable to resolve mirror host address

Hi. On Sat, Feb 17, 2018 at 04:20:06PM +0100, Roger Price wrote: > I am trying to net install stretch i386 on an EeePC using a wired > connection. I chose my ISP as the mirror, but the installation hangs on > "Configure the packet management tool (APT)" [french text reads "Configurer > l'o

Re: [likely out of luck]

Thomas Schmitt writes: > Fvwm is software for people who don't want look-and-feel to change for > the mere reason that another decade went by. One has to customize it > by editing the configuration file, not by drag-and-drop. It is best > used with a zillion xterm windows and a few inavoidable GUI

fvwm resources, was Re: [likely out of luck] was -- Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively

On Sat 17 Feb 2018 at 09:01:07 (-0600), John Hasler wrote: > Richard Owlett writes: > > A sketchy preliminary web search doses not look promising. I'll > > initially experiment with KDE. Is there a recommended site that gives > > a good description of why and how one would use [FVWM] {similar to

Re: [likely out of luck]

Hi, Richard Owlet wrote: >>> Is there a recommended site that gives >>> a good description of why and how one would use [FVWM] {similar to what >>> >>> does for KDE}? John Hasler wrote: >> is what the

Re: [likely out of luck] was -- Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively

On 02/17/2018 09:01 AM, John Hasler wrote: Richard Owlett writes: A sketchy preliminary web search doses not look promising. I'll initially experiment with KDE. Is there a recommended site that gives a good description of why and how one would use [FVWM] {similar to what

Stretch net install on EeePC - unable to resolve mirror host address

I am trying to net install stretch i386 on an EeePC using a wired connection. I chose my ISP as the mirror, but the installation hangs on "Configure the packet management tool (APT)" [french text reads "Configurer l'outil de gestion des paquets (APT)"]. I checked on my regular box that stretch

Re: [likely out of luck] was -- Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively

Richard Owlett writes: > A sketchy preliminary web search doses not look promising. I'll > initially experiment with KDE. Is there a recommended site that gives > a good description of why and how one would use [FVWM] {similar to what >

Re: [likely out of luck] was -- Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively

On 02/17/2018 07:42 AM, John Hasler wrote: Richard Owlett wrote: I have no problem with different applications being open in each workspace. What I would like would be to be able to do is have differing sets of applications available in each workspace. This can be done with FVWM. A sketchy

Re: Debian New Guy

Thanks for all the great info. Looks like I have some reading to do.

Re: Firefox too slow when opening new window or typing in the URL

On 2018-02-17, deloptes wrote: [...] > Might be I need to clean up and see if it makes a difference > > thanks After 15 years, probably yes. I suggest you consider a refresh[1]. Make sure you understand what will be kept and what will be discarded, and how to recover the previous state of your

Re: [likely out of luck] was -- Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively

On 02/17/2018 07:17 AM, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday, February 16, 2018 10:33:01 PM Richard Owlett wrote: Both are good descriptions of what I want. If it cannot be done in MATE, is there another desktop or approach that will accomplish my goal? TIA As long as we are talking about icons

Re: Debian New Guy

You don't need to know that. What you need to know is how to reproduce the output after login. As root run dmesg|grep -i "error" and also run dmesg|grep -i "warning" and finally run dmesg|grep -i "fatal". You might want to save those runs to files or maybe not. On Sat, 17 Feb 2018, Legion Po

Re: Something eating diskspace in Testing

On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 10:14:25PM -0800, David Christensen wrote: > > Unix has a feature whereby a program can open a file, save the file handle, > and then unlink the file. Once unlinked, the file is inaccessible to most > (all?) other programs, but the originating program can still access the

Re: [likely out of luck] was -- Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively

Richard Owlett wrote: > I have no problem with different applications being open in each workspace. > > What I would like would be to be able to do is have differing sets of > applications available in each workspace. This can be done with FVWM. I start it up four desks (similar, I think, to MATE

Re: Something eating diskspace in Testing

On Saturday, February 17, 2018 12:51:54 AM Johan DS wrote: > hi > I have testing installed with a separete /Home partition. > > My root partition /dev/sda2 is slowly filling up. In a few hours it goes > from 7GB to 15GB. > Until there is no more space. I used ncdu. And also did > ls and finds for

Re: Multiple independent terminals on a single machinde

Richard Owlett wrote: > See my reply to deloptes. > I was told by English professors since the 60's that my composition > skills lack ... ;/ :D and for the past 55y you did not improve :D - you should be ashamed!

Re: Debian New Guy

Legion Post #52 wrote: > Ok, I have a question. What is that script called that runs when you > start up the system that causes all that text to come across the > monitor? In that text I see a failure that references "systemct1 > network service" but can't find where that is located to check it ou

Re: Multiple independent terminals on a single machinde

On 02/17/2018 05:27 AM, Tom Furie wrote: On Sat, Feb 17, 2018 at 01:08:58AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: I use the MATE desktop. I had originally thought I could achieve my goals using MATE's workspaces. I've read this post over, several times, but can't work out what your actual question is.

Re: Firefox too slow when opening new window or typing in the URL

Erik Christiansen wrote: > Whenever that happens here, I just clear the cookies & cache with > CTRL+SHIFT+DEL. That puts a spring in its step again. > I tried this already and it did not help > Admittedly, my old mobo is too slow for video streaming, so I bought a > Udoo-X86 for that - with ver

Re: [likely out of luck] was -- Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively

On Friday, February 16, 2018 10:33:01 PM Richard Owlett wrote: > Both are good descriptions of what I want. > If it cannot be done in MATE, is there another desktop or approach that > will accomplish my goal? > TIA As long as we are talking about icons on the desktop (instead of, for example, men

Re: Firefox too slow when opening new window or typing in the URL

Reco wrote: > Well, if it's sqlite databases you're worried about, then install > "sqlite3" package, shutdown firefox (important!), and run something like > this: > > for x in $(find .mozilla -name '*sqlite'); do > sqlite3 "$x" "VACUUM;" > done $ time for x in $(find .mozilla -name '*.sqlite');

Re: [likely out of luck] was -- Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively

On 02/17/2018 05:11 AM, Cindy-Sue Causey wrote: On 2/17/18, Curt wrote: On 2018-02-17, Richard Owlett wrote: Both are good descriptions of what I want. If it cannot be done in MATE, is there another desktop or approach that will accomplish my goal? TIA Maybe KDE "activities" matches your

Re: [likely out of luck] was -- Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively

On 02/17/2018 04:25 AM, Curt wrote: On 2018-02-17, Richard Owlett wrote: Both are good descriptions of what I want. If it cannot be done in MATE, is there another desktop or approach that will accomplish my goal? TIA Maybe KDE "activities" matches your desires: [snip summary of] https://www

Re: Debian New Guy

are you looking for path of a command ?  "whereis  systemctl"may be "systemd" is starting point for all scripts during startupcheck "cd /etc/init.d/"  which is atleast one place for startup scripts --software engineerrajagiri school of engineering and technology On Saturday 17 February 2018, 6

Re: Multiple independent terminals on a single machinde

On 02/17/2018 01:57 AM, deloptes wrote: Richard Owlett wrote: Therefore I'll change my metaphor. It is routine for one machine to support multiple independent terminals. Logically one expect that those terminals could appear on the host device. How might this be done? Hi, first you write you

Debian New Guy

Ok, I have a question. What is that script called that runs when you start up the system that causes all that text to come across the monitor? In that text I see a failure that references "systemct1 network service" but can't find where that is located to check it out. Any help greatly appreciated.

Re: Multiple independent terminals on a single machinde

On Sat, Feb 17, 2018 at 01:08:58AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: > I use the MATE desktop. I had originally thought I could achieve my goals > using MATE's workspaces. I've read this post over, several times, but can't work out what your actual question is. Could you restate it plainly? Cheers, T

Re: [likely out of luck] was -- Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively

On 2/17/18, Curt wrote: > On 2018-02-17, Richard Owlett wrote: >> >> Both are good descriptions of what I want. >> If it cannot be done in MATE, is there another desktop or approach that >> will accomplish my goal? >> TIA >> > > Maybe KDE "activities" matches your desires: > > The classic Linux

Re: Firefox too slow when opening new window or typing in the URL

On 17.02.18 10:00, deloptes wrote: > Since couple of months firefox is taking too long to open a new window or > new page. Whenever that happens here, I just clear the cookies & cache with CTRL+SHIFT+DEL. That puts a spring in its step again. Admittedly, my old mobo is too slow for video streamin

Re: Firefox too slow when opening new window or typing in the URL

Hi. On Sat, Feb 17, 2018 at 10:00:07AM +0100, deloptes wrote: > Hi all, > perhaps someone of you has dealt with this issue and can give me an idea how > can I fix it. > > Since couple of months firefox is taking too long to open a new window or > new page. > When I press "CTRL+n" it opens

Re: [likely out of luck] was -- Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively

On 2018-02-17, Richard Owlett wrote: > > Both are good descriptions of what I want. > If it cannot be done in MATE, is there another desktop or approach that > will accomplish my goal? > TIA > Maybe KDE "activities" matches your desires: The classic Linux desktop -- a workspace, a panel, and a

Firefox too slow when opening new window or typing in the URL

Hi all, perhaps someone of you has dealt with this issue and can give me an idea how can I fix it. Since couple of months firefox is taking too long to open a new window or new page. When I press "CTRL+n" it opens the window but whole firefox gets blocked until something happens in the background

Re: Multiple independent terminals on a single machinde

Richard Owlett wrote: > Therefore I'll change my metaphor. > It is routine for one machine to support multiple independent terminals. > Logically one expect that those terminals could appear on the host device. > > How might this be done? Hi, first you write you want to have independent terminal