Re: scriptable way to list packages that are not installed

2018-01-13 Thread john doe
On 1/14/2018 7:28 AM, john doe wrote: On 1/14/2018 4:52 AM, Vasyl Vavrychuk wrote: I would like to list not installed packages in my script. Currently I do dpkg-query -W -f='${db:Status-Abbrev}${binary:Package}\n' $PACKAGES | grep -v "^ii" | awk '{print $2}' As an aside; you don't need

Re: scriptable way to list packages that are not installed

2018-01-13 Thread john doe
On 1/14/2018 4:52 AM, Vasyl Vavrychuk wrote: I would like to list not installed packages in my script. Currently I do dpkg-query -W -f='${db:Status-Abbrev}${binary:Package}\n' $PACKAGES | grep -v "^ii" | awk '{print $2}' As an aside; you don't need grep in this command: $ | awk '!/^ii/

Re: apt uninstall apparmor

2018-01-13 Thread solitone
On 13/01/18 20:51, Brian wrote: >> Do you have a plan to inform the AppArmor team of your detailed findings? > > Thought not. > > Pointing the finger at a 3+ year old post on another OS is easier than > engaging in a detailed bug report which involves time and effort. And > people wonder why bugs

Re: HiDPI migration: desktop environment issue

2018-01-13 Thread Charlie Gibbs
On 13/01/18 07:02 PM, Doug wrote: Well, I'm using KDE5 ("plasma") and I like it, but Windows 10 comes stock with a really gross interface--great big boxes on the screen for just a few apps. You can abolish that junk with a free app that makes the screen look and act like the Win 7 desktop, or on

scriptable way to list packages that are not installed

2018-01-13 Thread Vasyl Vavrychuk
I would like to list not installed packages in my script. Currently I do dpkg-query -W -f='${db:Status-Abbrev}${binary:Package}\n' $PACKAGES | grep -v "^ii" | awk '{print $2}' Problem is that dpkg-query outputs information about no matching packages in stderr in a not suitable for scripts way

Re: HiDPI migration: desktop environment issue

2018-01-13 Thread Doug
On 12/27/2017 05:43 PM, Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote: On 25/12/17 01:44, Anders Andersson wrote: If you can pull yourself from a Windows 95-era start menu and always-visible panels, try the natural and more modern and updated successor: Gnome 3. Really. I found this "modern and updated" interface

Re: Frustration over Debian naming

2018-01-13 Thread Charlie Gibbs
On 13/01/18 07:24 AM, bw wrote: On Sat, 13 Jan 2018, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: On Saturday, January 13, 2018 09:07:58 AM bw wrote: >> It is a good point, however have you considered the effect of a visual association along with a word and a number? For me, no--why should I go to that tr

Re: apt uninstall apparmor (was: Thunderbird no longer opens links)

2018-01-13 Thread Brian
On Fri 12 Jan 2018 at 20:37:22 +, Brian wrote: > On Fri 12 Jan 2018 at 19:16:28 +0100, solitone wrote: > > > On 30/11/17 08:48, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: > > > On 30.11.2017 10:45, solitone wrote: > > >> Hi, since a few days, hyperlink no longer works in my Thunderbird. > > >> When I clic

Re: Frustration over Debian naming (was: Re: Meltdown fix for wheezy-backports)

2018-01-13 Thread David Wright
On Sat 13 Jan 2018 at 17:05:54 (+), Curt wrote: > On 2018-01-13, David Wright wrote: > > On Sat 13 Jan 2018 at 05:14:37 (+0100), Ionel Mugurel Ciobîcă wrote: > >> On 12-01-2018, at 15h 03'25", David Wright wrote about "Re: Frustration > >> over Debian naming (was: Re: Meltdown fix for wheezy-

Re: Thunderbird font broken

2018-01-13 Thread Siard
Markus Grunwald wrote: > Thunderbird seems to handle fontsizes different than all the other > programs I'm using. In Testing, if I start Thunderbird from an x-terminal, this is what I see: $ thunderbird No protocol specified Unable to init server: Could not connect: Connection refused Error: cann

Re: Frustration over Debian naming (was: Re: Meltdown fix for wheezy-backports)

2018-01-13 Thread Curt
On 2018-01-13, David Wright wrote: > On Sat 13 Jan 2018 at 05:14:37 (+0100), Ionel Mugurel Ciobîcă wrote: >> On 12-01-2018, at 15h 03'25", David Wright wrote about "Re: Frustration over >> Debian naming (was: Re: Meltdown fix for wheezy-backports)" >> > [...] People use names, computers like numb

Re: Frustration over Debian naming (was: Re: Meltdown fix for wheezy-backports)

2018-01-13 Thread David Wright
On Sat 13 Jan 2018 at 16:56:05 (+), Glenn English wrote: > Has anyone in this thread mentioned DNS yet? Quoting RFC 1178: “There is always room for an exception. “I don't think any explanation is needed here. However, let me add that if you later decide to change a name (to someth

Re: Frustration over Debian naming

2018-01-13 Thread David Wright
On Fri 12 Jan 2018 at 21:29:34 (-0600), John Hasler wrote: > rhkramer writes: > > The Toy Story names have no inherent sequence to them, and fail to aid > > in my (and I suspect several others) understanding. > > I dislike them as well and would also prefer numbers. I never saw the > movie nor ha

Re: Frustration over Debian naming (was: Re: Meltdown fix for wheezy-backports)

2018-01-13 Thread Glenn English
Has anyone in this thread mentioned DNS yet? -- Glenn English

Re: Frustration over Debian naming (was: Re: Meltdown fix for wheezy-backports)

2018-01-13 Thread David Wright
On Sat 13 Jan 2018 at 05:14:37 (+0100), Ionel Mugurel Ciobîcă wrote: > On 12-01-2018, at 15h 03'25", David Wright wrote about "Re: Frustration over > Debian naming (was: Re: Meltdown fix for wheezy-backports)" > > [...] People use names, computers like numbers. > > > > I do not take sides here,

Re: Frustration over Debian naming

2018-01-13 Thread David Wright
On Sat 13 Jan 2018 at 16:49:34 (+1300), Richard Hector wrote: > On 13/01/18 10:03, David Wright wrote: > > On Fri 12 Jan 2018 at 14:01:34 (+), Ian Campbell wrote: > >> On Fri, 2018-01-12 at 13:54 +, Holger Levsen wrote: > >>> On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 08:49:05AM -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrot

Re: Frustration over Debian naming (was: Re: Meltdown fix for wheezy-backports)

2018-01-13 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sat, 13 Jan 2018, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > Some people always seem to remain confused. Perhaps they have > > the same confusion with timezones, for similar reasons. > > Both are confusing. One, Debian has the possibility to improve. Yes, we could "improve". But for many of us that doesn't

Re: Frustration over Debian naming (was: Re: Meltdown fix for wheezy-backports)

2018-01-13 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 03:03:25PM -0600, David Wright wrote: Which reason? The formal name of a release is the Release number. And yet our sources.list files all contain deb stretch main and not deb 9 main And I had to look up "9" in that wiki page to even make this point. The page

Re: Debian iso installation incorrectly sets sources.list

2018-01-13 Thread Brian
On Sat 13 Jan 2018 at 13:28:17 +, Steve McIntyre wrote: > Steve McIntyre wrote: > >David Wright wrote: > > >>Perhaps /etc/apt/sources.list could have a one-line pointer to a text > >>file that explained the options available and how to achieve them. > > > >At the very least, to go with the ch

Re: Frustration over Debian naming (was: Re: Meltdown fix for wheezy-backports)

2018-01-13 Thread Ionel Mugurel Ciobîcă
On 13-01-2018, at 09h 07'58", bw wrote about "Re: Frustration over Debian naming (was: Re: Meltdown fix for wheezy-backports)" > > On Friday, January 12, 2018 11:14:37 PM Ionel Mugurel Ciobîcă wrote: > > > On 12-01-2018, at 15h 03'25", David Wright wrote about "Re: Frustration > > > over Debian na

Re: Frustration over Debian naming (was: Re: Meltdown fix for wheezy-backports)

2018-01-13 Thread rhkramer
On Saturday, January 13, 2018 09:07:58 AM bw wrote: > It is a good point, however have you considered the effect of a visual > association along with a word and a number? For instance, everytime I > think of debian "stretch" i see a purple octopus. For "buster" I see a > yapping little dachshund

Re: Thunderbird font broken

2018-01-13 Thread Ric Moore
On 01/12/2018 03:32 PM, Felix Miata wrote: Markus Grunwald composed on 2018-01-12 20:24 (UTC+0100): Thunderbird seems to handle fontsizes different than all the other programs I'm using. I had to install the extension "Theme Font & Size Changer for Thunderbird" (62.0) to fix that broken behavio

Re: Frustration over Debian naming (was: Re: Meltdown fix for wheezy-backports)

2018-01-13 Thread bw
On Sat, 13 Jan 2018, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Friday, January 12, 2018 11:14:37 PM Ionel Mugurel Ciobîcă wrote: > > On 12-01-2018, at 15h 03'25", David Wright wrote about "Re: Frustration > > over Debian naming (was: Re: Meltdown fix for wheezy-backports)" > > > > > [...] People use names

Re: Debian iso installation incorrectly sets sources.list

2018-01-13 Thread Steve McIntyre
Steve McIntyre wrote: >David Wright wrote: >>On Wed 10 Jan 2018 at 11:34:57 (+), Steve McIntyre wrote: >>> >>> * if you've used a bigger (set of) image(s), then you most likely >>>will want to use this again in the future. This is to support >>>people using CD/DVD media sets for insta

[LIKELY Resolved] - was [Re: Strange message during boot]

2018-01-13 Thread Richard Owlett
On 01/13/2018 04:43 AM, Curt wrote: On 2018-01-11, The Wanderer wrote: Googling on that error message (with the presumed typo corrected) leads me to http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=3D5&t=3D133578 as a first hit. That's funny; I am led here first-hit wise: https://lists.debian.org/

Re: CVE-2017-5754 - XEN silent_disable?

2018-01-13 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, Jan 13, 2018 at 10:45:31AM +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote: [...] > For the "silent" part, I've reported a wishlist bug here: > > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=887061 You're my hero :) thanks - -- t -BEGIN PGP SIGNAT

Re: Frustration over Debian naming (was: Re: Meltdown fix for wheezy-backports)

2018-01-13 Thread rhkramer
On Friday, January 12, 2018 11:14:37 PM Ionel Mugurel Ciobîcă wrote: > On 12-01-2018, at 15h 03'25", David Wright wrote about "Re: Frustration > over Debian naming (was: Re: Meltdown fix for wheezy-backports)" > > > [...] People use names, computers like numbers. > > I do not take sides here, but

Re: Strange message during boot

2018-01-13 Thread Curt
On 2018-01-11, The Wanderer wrote: > > Googling on that error message (with the presumed typo corrected) leads > me to http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=3D5&t=3D133578 as a first > hit. > That's funny; I am led here first-hit wise: https://lists.debian.org/debian-kernel/2017/04/msg00192.h

Re: CVE-2017-5754 - XEN silent_disable?

2018-01-13 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2018-01-13 08:25:53 +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > FWIW, this is the patch which brought it about: > > > http://lists-archives.com/linux-kernel/29009008-kaiser-disabled-on-xen-pv.html > > I'm not very happy with the "silent" part either. For the "silent" part, I've reported a wishlist bu

Re: CVE-2017-5754 - ETA?

2018-01-13 Thread Tixy
On Sat, 2018-01-13 at 08:06 +, Tixy wrote: > On Fri, 2018-01-12 at 22:40 +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > On 2018-01-12 21:21:06 +, Nick wrote: > > > It might have aged out of the buffer that dmesg reports on. > > > > No, there's the beginning of the dmesg output: > > > > [0.00]

Re: CVE-2017-5754 - ETA?

2018-01-13 Thread Tixy
On Fri, 2018-01-12 at 22:40 +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2018-01-12 21:21:06 +, Nick wrote: > > It might have aged out of the buffer that dmesg reports on. > > No, there's the beginning of the dmesg output: > > [0.00] Linux version 4.9.0-5-amd64 (debian-ker...@lists.debian.org)