Re: hostname of the modem gateway

2018-01-01 Thread john doe
On 1/2/2018 8:16 AM, john doe wrote: On 1/2/2018 8:01 AM, Tom Furie wrote: On Tue, Jan 02, 2018 at 07:52:31AM +0100, john doe wrote: My default route is not 192.168.1.1 and host(1) gives me that same error. What the error actually means is that there is no reverse DNS resolution for that IP

Re: hostname of the modem gateway

2018-01-01 Thread john doe
On 1/2/2018 8:01 AM, Tom Furie wrote: On Tue, Jan 02, 2018 at 07:52:31AM +0100, john doe wrote: My default route is not 192.168.1.1 and host(1) gives me that same error. What the error actually means is that there is no reverse DNS resolution for that IP address, in other words the IP address

Re: hostname of the modem gateway

2018-01-01 Thread Tom Furie
On Tue, Jan 02, 2018 at 07:52:31AM +0100, john doe wrote: > My default route is not 192.168.1.1 and host(1) gives me that same error. What the error actually means is that there is no reverse DNS resolution for that IP address, in other words the IP address cannot be resolved to its hostname. It

Re: hostname of the modem gateway

2018-01-01 Thread john doe
On 1/2/2018 7:45 AM, Tom Furie wrote: On Tue, Jan 02, 2018 at 07:38:54AM +0100, john doe wrote: Looks like 192.168.1.1 is not your default route. What led you to that conclusion? My default route is not 192.168.1.1 and host(1) gives me that same error. -- John Doe

Re: hostname of the modem gateway

2018-01-01 Thread Tom Furie
On Tue, Jan 02, 2018 at 07:38:54AM +0100, john doe wrote: > Looks like 192.168.1.1 is not your default route. What led you to that conclusion? Cheers, Tom -- A good scapegoat is hard to find. A guilty conscience is the mother of invention. -- Carolyn Wells signature.asc Descr

Re: hostname of the modem gateway

2018-01-01 Thread john doe
On 1/2/2018 7:15 AM, David Wright wrote: On Tue 02 Jan 2018 at 06:25:29 (+0100), john doe wrote: On 1/2/2018 12:12 AM, Max Power wrote: Hi guys, with the new release of Debian 'Stretch', the route command has been replaced but what other command returns the hostname of the modem/router gateway.

Re: hostname of the modem gateway

2018-01-01 Thread David Wright
On Tue 02 Jan 2018 at 06:25:29 (+0100), john doe wrote: > On 1/2/2018 12:12 AM, Max Power wrote: > >Hi guys, > >with the new release of Debian 'Stretch', the route command has been replaced > >but what other command returns the hostname of the modem/router gateway...? > ># route > >gateway = home.t

Re: hostname of the modem gateway

2018-01-01 Thread john doe
On 1/2/2018 12:12 AM, Max Power wrote: Hi guys, with the new release of Debian 'Stretch', the route command has been replaced but what other command returns the hostname of the modem/router gateway...? # route gateway = home.telecomitalia.it # ip route gateway = 192.168.1.1 Thanks for reply, Max

Re: Experiences with BTRFS -- is it mature enough for enterprise use?

2018-01-01 Thread David Christensen
On 12/31/17 14:45, Sven Hartge wrote: David Christensen wrote: $ man 4 md SCRUBBING AND MISMATCHES ... If check was used, then no action is taken to handle the mismatch, it is simply recorded. If repair was used, then a mismatch will be repaire

Re: How to relocate LVM pv to make room for grub install

2018-01-01 Thread Tom Dial
On 01/01/2018 02:46 AM, Pascal Hambourg wrote: > Le 01/01/2018 à 06:51, Tom Dial a écrit : >> Upgrading a workstation from Jessie to Stretch I found that the original >> disk partitioning left insufficient space for grub (re)install. The >> system has two identical ~233 GiB disks, sda and sdb, par

hostname of the modem gateway

2018-01-01 Thread Max Power
Hi guys, with the new release of Debian 'Stretch', the route command has been replaced but what other command returns the hostname of the modem/router gateway...? # route gateway = home.telecomitalia.it # ip route gateway = 192.168.1.1 Thanks for reply, Max Power.

Re: [ADDENDUM] File permission confusion [Debian 9.1 with MATE]

2018-01-01 Thread Brian
On Mon 01 Jan 2018 at 05:37:15 -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 01/01/2018 05:23 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: > > As user "richard" I created 3 files. > > I later wanted to protect them totally from accidental change. > > For each file, I went to Properties->Permissions and changed Access for > > Ow

Re: File permission confusion [Debian 9.1 with MATE]

2018-01-01 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Richard Owlett > I used "linux tutorial chmod chattr" [w/o quotes] in both DuckDuckGo and > Google. A general search topic would be "linux file permissions" and "chattr". I can show you an example shell session on an ext4 filesystem. I create a directory with a file and take away w-permissi

Re: File permission confusion [Debian 9.1 with MATE]

2018-01-01 Thread Michael Stone
On Mon, Jan 01, 2018 at 07:13:19PM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: The nice thing about chattr is that you can protect the file's directory entry (which one?) from being deleted. But I agree that using chattr without having first understood chmod is like using a circular saw without having first m

Re: File permission confusion [Debian 9.1 with MATE]

2018-01-01 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Jan 01, 2018 at 06:11:59PM -, Dan Purgert wrote: [...] > Note that "write" permissions on a file only really comes into play when > you're messing with a file in an editor (e.g. vim, emacs, nano, > whatever). It does not necessarily prev

Re: File permission confusion [Debian 9.1 with MATE]

2018-01-01 Thread Dan Purgert
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Richard Owlett wrote: > [...] > I need a tutorial. Man pages are unsatisfactory. Sort of like giving > someone a dictionary and expecting them to become competent writers. In brief: chmod - change "mode" bits (i.e. read / write / execute) based on wh

Re: File permission confusion [Debian 9.1 with MATE]

2018-01-01 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Jan 01, 2018 at 01:01:50PM -0500, Michael Stone wrote: > And forget chattr, it's just going to confuse things. The nice thing about chattr is that you can protect the file's directory entry (which one?) from being deleted. But I agree that usi

Re: File permission confusion [Debian 9.1 with MATE]

2018-01-01 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Jan 01, 2018 at 11:49:01AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: [...] > It's one of those theory and ability to apply. > That's why I asked for pointer suitable tutorial. > [https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2018/01/msg8.html] Roughly in this

Re: File permission confusion [Debian 9.1 with MATE]

2018-01-01 Thread Michael Stone
And forget chattr, it's just going to confuse things.

Re: File permission confusion [Debian 9.1 with MATE]

2018-01-01 Thread Richard Owlett
On 01/01/2018 11:34 AM, Michael Stone wrote: On Mon, Jan 01, 2018 at 11:28:37AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: WHY should one with "Read-only" access be able to delete it? A number of people have already explained that the ability delete requires write permission on the directory containing the

Re: File permission confusion [Debian 9.1 with MATE]

2018-01-01 Thread Michael Stone
On Mon, Jan 01, 2018 at 11:28:37AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: WHY should one with "Read-only" access be able to delete it? A number of people have already explained that the ability delete requires write permission on the directory containing the file. You don't seem to have acknowledged th

Re: File permission confusion [Debian 9.1 with MATE]

2018-01-01 Thread Richard Owlett
On 01/01/2018 10:23 AM, David Wright wrote: On Mon 01 Jan 2018 at 05:23:29 (-0600), Richard Owlett wrote: As user "richard" I created 3 files. I later wanted to protect them totally from accidental change. For each file, I went to Properties->Permissions and changed Access for Owner, Group, and

Re: installing ufraw on buster

2018-01-01 Thread Eric S Fraga
On Sunday, 31 Dec 2017 at 19:53, Brian wrote: > Indeed; especially if you are coming from apt-get. But, if you think > about it, do users want to keep all the debs they have downloaded? I agree: removing the .deb files makes sense for most use cases. > I'm moved to suggest that apt rather than a

Re: File permission confusion [Debian 9.1 with MATE]

2018-01-01 Thread Richard Owlett
On 01/01/2018 06:01 AM, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Hi, Richard Owlett wrote: As user "richard" I was able to delete them with Caja. To prevent renaming or deletion of a file, you need to prevent writing to the directory which hosts it. (Actually you delete the "dirent", which points to the inode.

Re: File permission confusion [Debian 9.1 with MATE]

2018-01-01 Thread David Wright
On Mon 01 Jan 2018 at 05:23:29 (-0600), Richard Owlett wrote: > As user "richard" I created 3 files. > I later wanted to protect them totally from accidental change. > For each file, I went to Properties->Permissions and changed Access > for Owner, Group, and Others to "Read Only". No, you set the

Re: File permission confusion [Debian 9.1 with MATE]

2018-01-01 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Richard Owlett wrote: > As user "richard" I was able to delete them with Caja. To prevent renaming or deletion of a file, you need to prevent writing to the directory which hosts it. (Actually you delete the "dirent", which points to the inode. The inode gets deleted when its last dirent is g

Re: [ADDENDUM] File permission confusion [Debian 9.1 with MATE]

2018-01-01 Thread Brian
On Mon 01 Jan 2018 at 05:37:15 -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 01/01/2018 05:23 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: > > As user "richard" I created 3 files. > > I later wanted to protect them totally from accidental change. > > For each file, I went to Properties->Permissions and changed Access for > > Ow

[ADDENDUM] File permission confusion [Debian 9.1 with MATE]

2018-01-01 Thread Richard Owlett
On 01/01/2018 05:23 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: As user "richard" I created 3 files. I later wanted to protect them totally from accidental change. For each file, I went to Properties->Permissions and changed Access for Owner, Group, and Others to "Read Only". As user "richard" I was able to delete

Re: File permission confusion [Debian 9.1 with MATE]

2018-01-01 Thread Mark Fletcher
On Mon, Jan 01, 2018 at 05:23:29AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: > As user "richard" I created 3 files. > I later wanted to protect them totally from accidental change. > For each file, I went to Properties->Permissions and changed Access for > Owner, Group, and Others to "Read Only". > As user "ric

File permission confusion [Debian 9.1 with MATE]

2018-01-01 Thread Richard Owlett
As user "richard" I created 3 files. I later wanted to protect them totally from accidental change. For each file, I went to Properties->Permissions and changed Access for Owner, Group, and Others to "Read Only". As user "richard" I was able to delete them with Caja. *UNDESIRABLE* As "root" I ch

Re: How to relocate LVM pv to make room for grub install

2018-01-01 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 01/01/2018 à 06:51, Tom Dial a écrit : Upgrading a workstation from Jessie to Stretch I found that the original disk partitioning left insufficient space for grub (re)install. The system has two identical ~233 GiB disks, sda and sdb, partitioned identically: Disk /dev/sda: 232.9 GiB, 25005935