Re: LUKS password gets printed as stars

2017-12-19 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 02:07:34PM -0800, Don Armstrong wrote: > On Wed, 20 Dec 2017, root kea wrote: > > I want *default* password agent to be consistent with traditional *Nix > > password handling. And that is echoing NOTHING at all. > > You can jus

Re: BeFS or BFS or other filesystem for linux with attributes on debian

2017-12-19 Thread David Christensen
On 12/19/17 14:07, Dan Hitt wrote: Just for reference, although the attributes exist and i ithink are exactly what i need, it looks like the system has to be nudged a little to use them. So, for example, with cp, you need to do 'cp -a' to carry along the attributes ('cp -p' is not enough). Also

Re: LVM: how to avoid scanning all devices

2017-12-19 Thread Igor Cicimov
On 15 Dec 2017 11:36 pm, "Steve Keller" wrote: When calling LVM commands it seems they all scan all disks for physical volumes. This is annoying because it spins up all disks that are currently idle and causes long delays to wait for these disks to come up. Also, I don't understand why LVM comm

Re: Debian, FF & NavyFed

2017-12-19 Thread Matthew Crews
> Original Message >Subject: Re: Debian, FF & NavyFed >Local Time: December 19, 2017 4:21 PM >UTC Time: December 19, 2017 11:21 PM >From: mike.junk...@att.net >To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > >On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 03:06:10PM -0500, Matthew Crews wrote: >>Well there is the fo

Re: Debian, FF & NavyFed

2017-12-19 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Mon, 18 Dec 2017 18:10:28 -0800 Mike McClain wrote: > I signed up with Navy Federal Credit Union online banking last week. > I can login, I get the banner in color , it says getting your info. > As soon they come back with and display my balance all the text turnes > to grey and a twiddler pop

Re: Debian, FF & NavyFed

2017-12-19 Thread Mike McClain
On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 03:06:10PM -0500, Matthew Crews wrote: > > Well there is the fourth option, though its not ideal and doesn't really fix > the problem: > > Use some version of Windows in a VM (ideally Windows 7, but Windows 10 will > be easier to acquire), or access your bank on a modern m

Re: BeFS or BFS or other filesystem for linux with attributes on debian

2017-12-19 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 02:07:35PM -0800, Dan Hitt wrote: > > Just for reference, although the attributes exist and i ithink are > exactly what i need, it looks like the system has to be nudged a > little to use them. > > So, for example, with cp, you need to do 'cp -a' to carry along the > attri

Re: BeFS or BFS or other filesystem for linux with attributes on debian

2017-12-19 Thread Dan Hitt
On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 11:07 AM, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 11:03:36AM -0800, Dan Hitt wrote: >> Awesome, Tomas, awesome. >> . >> But obviously the attr program has programmatic access to the >> attributes, so presumably all i need to do is hunt down its code and >> l

Re: LUKS password gets printed as stars

2017-12-19 Thread Don Armstrong
On Wed, 20 Dec 2017, root kea wrote: > I want *default* password agent to be consistent with traditional *Nix > password handling. And that is echoing NOTHING at all. You can just recompile systemd-ask-password and set ASK_PASSWORD_SILENT true. This probably should be a command-line option, though

Re: LUKS password gets printed as stars

2017-12-19 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 12:15:36AM +0530, root kea wrote: I am amazed that at times I had to defend not wanting stars(*) getting echoed on terminal on *Linux* box. That should have been other way around. That is the onus to defend should be on the one who wants stars(*) being echoed on Terminal.

Re: Debian, FF & NavyFed

2017-12-19 Thread Tom Dial
On 12/19/2017 12:15 PM, Jack Dangler wrote: > On 12/19/2017 02:05 PM, Matthew Crews wrote: >>> Original Message >>> Subject: Debian, FF & NavyFed >>> Local Time: December 18, 2017 7:10 PM >>> UTC Time: December 19, 2017 2:10 AM >>> From: mike.junk...@att.net >>> To: debian-user@

Re: Debian, FF & NavyFed

2017-12-19 Thread Tom Dial
On 12/19/2017 06:06 AM, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Mon, Dec 18, 2017 at 06:10:28PM -0800, Mike McClain wrote: >> I signed up with Navy Federal Credit Union online banking last week. >> I can login, I get the banner in color , it says getting your info. > > Which browser? > > > ... > > > ... >

Re: Debian, FF & NavyFed

2017-12-19 Thread Joe
On Tue, 19 Dec 2017 14:15:57 -0500 Jack Dangler wrote: > On 12/19/2017 02:05 PM, Matthew Crews wrote: > >> Original Message > >> Subject: Debian, FF & NavyFed > >> Local Time: December 18, 2017 7:10 PM > >> UTC Time: December 19, 2017 2:10 AM > >> From: mike.junk...@att.net > >>

RE: systemd (was Debian, FF & NavyFed)

2017-12-19 Thread Richard Zimmerman
>From: Nicholas Geovanis [mailto:nickgeova...@gmail.com] >Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2017 2:30 PM > > > Hmm. So it is possible that you will come to hate Linux now too ;-)) Only dabbled in systemd so far and not liking it. Been watching the CentOS list and this list. CentOS / RHEL seems to ha

Re: Debian, FF & NavyFed

2017-12-19 Thread Matthew Crews
>FF version won't likely help. I also have accounts there and have the > same complaint. I have 2 debian, 1 mint, and 1 Ubuntu box all running > differing flavors of FF and Chrome. So far, they all do it. The only > browser I've seen work with it is IE or Edge. Producing web sites for a > particula

Re: LUKS password gets printed as stars

2017-12-19 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 12:15:36AM +0530, root kea wrote: > On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 11:58 PM, wrote: > > > So you might try to write your own agent, or file a wishlist > > bug. > > I want *default* password agent to be consistent with traditional *

attempt to load openSUSE installation kernel and initrd produces kernel has invalid signature

2017-12-19 Thread Felix Miata
Secure boot is not enabled in BIOS or any installation on this multiboot system. Why would such a boot impediment and message be produced by Stretch's Grub? If I instead try to chainload to the already installed openSUSE TW's Grub (on EXT4 gpt6), I get only Booting a command list

RE: Debian, FF & NavyFed

2017-12-19 Thread Richard Zimmerman
>-Original Message- >From: Cindy-Sue Causey [mailto:butterflyby...@gmail.com] >Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2017 11:58 AM > >COINCIDENTALLY.. From yesterday's W3C newsletter: >https://www.w3.org/blog/news/archives/6696 >https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-validator/ Excellent site. I

Re: Debian, FF & NavyFed

2017-12-19 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 12:02 PM, Richard Zimmerman < rzimmer...@riverbendhose.com> wrote: > >Just because Forth is no longer a going concern, doesn't imply you have > to > > > debase yourself. Move to a truly "higher-level language", say Erlang or > > >something like that. Stay out of the gutter.

Re: No sound in Firefox

2017-12-19 Thread Pierre Frenkiel
On Sat, 5 Aug 2017, Curt wrote: On 2017-08-05, cu...@free.fr wrote Did you try configuring the output device with pavucontrol (especially if you have more than one sound card / HDMI)? hi Curt, I'm coming back with still the same problem: pulseaudio is running, but Firefox (now versio

Re: Debian, FF & NavyFed

2017-12-19 Thread Jack Dangler
On 12/19/2017 02:05 PM, Matthew Crews wrote: Original Message Subject: Debian, FF & NavyFed Local Time: December 18, 2017 7:10 PM UTC Time: December 19, 2017 2:10 AM From: mike.junk...@att.net To: debian-user@lists.debian.org I signed up with Navy Federal Credit Union online

Re: BeFS or BFS or other filesystem for linux with attributes on debian

2017-12-19 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 11:03:36AM -0800, Dan Hitt wrote: > Awesome, Tomas, awesome. > > So it was implicit in my system all this time. > > Good grief. > > Anyhow, yes, that's exactly what i was looking for. > > Well, i guess a little more: i want programmatic access to the > attributes as well

Re: Debian, FF & NavyFed

2017-12-19 Thread Matthew Crews
> Original Message >Subject: Debian, FF & NavyFed >Local Time: December 18, 2017 7:10 PM >UTC Time: December 19, 2017 2:10 AM >From: mike.junk...@att.net >To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > >I signed up with Navy Federal Credit Union online banking last week. > I can login, I get t

Re: BeFS or BFS or other filesystem for linux with attributes on debian

2017-12-19 Thread Dan Hitt
Awesome, Tomas, awesome. So it was implicit in my system all this time. Good grief. Anyhow, yes, that's exactly what i was looking for. Well, i guess a little more: i want programmatic access to the attributes as well. But obviously the attr program has programmatic access to the attributes, s

Re: LUKS password gets printed as stars

2017-12-19 Thread root kea
On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 11:58 PM, wrote: > So you might try to write your own agent, or file a wishlist > bug. I want *default* password agent to be consistent with traditional *Nix password handling. And that is echoing NOTHING at all. I am amazed that at times I had to defend not wanting sta

Debian networking - accessing public-side servers from a private network

2017-12-19 Thread Phil Reynolds
I have a network with a Debian router, using iptables for NAT and firewalling. Connected to it via a Wi-fi acces point is, among other things, an Android phone. This is mosty relevant in that I cannot vary its settings very much, other than by changing them on the router. I have IPv6 on the networ

Re: BeFS or BFS or other filesystem for linux with attributes on debian

2017-12-19 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 10:27:38AM -0800, Dan Hitt wrote: > BeOS had (and i imagine Haiku has) a file system that allows all kinds > of attributes to be attached to a file. Most self-respecting file systems on Linux have extended attributes these days

Re: LUKS password gets printed as stars

2017-12-19 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 11:04:38PM +0530, root kea wrote: [...] > Thanks for the apt-file tip. I was hoping to find systemd-ask-password > command execution in this file so that I could omit `--echo` switch > (I'm thinking it's there as user input is

BeFS or BFS or other filesystem for linux with attributes on debian

2017-12-19 Thread Dan Hitt
BeOS had (and i imagine Haiku has) a file system that allows all kinds of attributes to be attached to a file. I understand it to be something like having a two-column key-value table attached to every file. I understand that file system was ported to linux with the name BeFS (the Be name of 'BFS

RE: Debian, FF & NavyFed

2017-12-19 Thread Richard Zimmerman
>Just because Forth is no longer a going concern, doesn't imply you have to > debase yourself. Move to a truly "higher-level language", say Erlang or >something like that. Stay out of the gutter. It's your soul, dude. >:-) Never heard of Erlang till just now…. Interesting but not interested.

Re: LUKS password gets printed as stars

2017-12-19 Thread root kea
On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 1:58 AM, wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 12:42:57AM +0530, root kea wrote: >> Now I just need to find out from where this `systemd-ask-password` is >> executed and then edit it's command by omitting the `--echo` flag >>

Re: Debian, FF & NavyFed

2017-12-19 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 11:34 AM, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 11:28:35AM -0600, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > > There is today only One Human > > Interface and One Hardware Interface: WWW; Intel. > > Completely wrong. You've heard of mobile phones? Tablets? Those > are the big

Re: Debian, FF & NavyFed

2017-12-19 Thread Joe
On Tue, 19 Dec 2017 12:34:05 -0500 Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 11:28:35AM -0600, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > > There is today only One Human > > Interface and One Hardware Interface: WWW; Intel. > > Completely wrong. You've heard of mobile phones? Tablets? Those > are the

Re: mplayer changed behaviour in stretch

2017-12-19 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 09:36:11AM -0800, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > Follow-up: I've just come across MP3 files in my collection for which the > new mplayer _does_ display the tags. Maybe it's just becoming more picky - > which isn't really a Good Thing. Postel's Law says, "Be conservative in > what

Re: mplayer changed behaviour in stretch

2017-12-19 Thread Charlie Gibbs
On 19/12/17 09:15 AM, Charlie Gibbs wrote: On 19/12/17 12:12 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Mon, Dec 18, 2017 at 01:48:13PM -0800, Charlie Gibbs wrote: I'm a heavy user of mplayer from the command line - it's a wonderful utility that does what I want [...] There are config files for mplaye

Re: Debian, FF & NavyFed

2017-12-19 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 11:28:35AM -0600, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > There is today only One Human > Interface and One Hardware Interface: WWW; Intel. Completely wrong. You've heard of mobile phones? Tablets? Those are the big thing right now, and their architecture is ARM, not Intel.

Re: Debian, FF & NavyFed

2017-12-19 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 8:25 AM, Richard Zimmerman < rzimmer...@riverbendhose.com> wrote: > > I apologize about the rant but we need to put the blame where it belongs. > Today's web programmers that don't crap about programming and their > employers who don't do due diligence in TESTING, Quality C

Re: Need an fft hystogram of a cameras output

2017-12-19 Thread Cousin Stanley
Gene Heskett wrote: > Do we have such a critter that can analyze the output of a v4l2 camera, > and give an amplitude at bandwidth histogram? > The python numpy module provides a variety of fft functions https://docs.scipy.org/doc/numpy-1.13.0/reference/routines.fft.html

Re: mplayer changed behaviour in stretch

2017-12-19 Thread Charlie Gibbs
On 19/12/17 12:12 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Mon, Dec 18, 2017 at 01:48:13PM -0800, Charlie Gibbs wrote: I'm a heavy user of mplayer from the command line - it's a wonderful utility that does what I want [...] There are config files for mplayer; the Debian mplayer puts them in /etc/mplay

Re: Debian, FF & NavyFed

2017-12-19 Thread Cindy-Sue Causey
On 12/19/17, Richard Zimmerman wrote: >>> As soon they come back with and display my balance all the text >>> turnes to grey and a twiddler pops up and it stays like that forever. >>> NFCU's tech support will not admit to knowing who's waiting for >>> what just we don't support Linux. > > Spea

Re: foss usb charger

2017-12-19 Thread Neo
You can take a look here. https://pkgs.org/download/ipad-charge But be careful, messing around with this will for sure void any warranty, and you should know what you're doing (and probably have voltage measuring equipment) I wont take any guarantees or such. Am 19.12.2017 um 11:09 schrieb

Re: got a new one

2017-12-19 Thread Curt
On 2017-12-19, Gene Heskett wrote: > Greetings all; > > I just got a pdf emailed to me thats an invoice, and a puzzle. The > automatic linkage when I click on the pdf opens it in evince. It reads > perfectly on screen, but prints blank pages. Even with the colors > inverted. > > I then saved it

Re: overcoming known kernel bug

2017-12-19 Thread deloptes
Hi, before doing make, do make menuconfig or make xconfig and inspect the relevant options. I usually collect the chipset specs regarding the mainboard CPU and expansion cards and go through documentation and configuration (if needed). Mostly I just check that the drivers is enabled and if it shou

RE: Debian, FF & NavyFed

2017-12-19 Thread Richard Zimmerman
>> As soon they come back with and display my balance all the text >> turnes to grey and a twiddler pops up and it stays like that forever. >> NFCU's tech support will not admit to knowing who's waiting for >> what just we don't support Linux. Speaking as a programmer. You write websites for

Re: got a new one

2017-12-19 Thread Brian
On Tue 19 Dec 2017 at 08:43:20 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > Greetings all; > > I just got a pdf emailed to me thats an invoice, and a puzzle. The > automatic linkage when I click on the pdf opens it in evince. It reads > perfectly on screen, but prints blank pages. Even with the colors > inver

got a new one

2017-12-19 Thread Gene Heskett
Greetings all; I just got a pdf emailed to me thats an invoice, and a puzzle. The automatic linkage when I click on the pdf opens it in evince. It reads perfectly on screen, but prints blank pages. Even with the colors inverted. I then saved it, loaded it up into okular, and it printed perfect

Re: overcoming known kernel bug

2017-12-19 Thread Brian Oney
Thank you for the advice. I have gotten that far and went that far again. Below is what I am doing: kversion="4.14.2" cd ~/kernel/linux-$kversion # uname -r # 4.9.0-4-amd64 cp /boot/config-`uname -r` .config yes '' | make oldconfig # There are TONS of new options make -j 4 deb-pkg I get everythin

Re: Debian, FF & NavyFed

2017-12-19 Thread Jude DaShiell
I have a good friend who has been part of Navy Federal Credit Union for a while and he has had his credit card hacked and replaced three times this year. Forewarned is forearmed and his email address if you want to check is kingtu...@gmail.com. On Tue, 19 Dec 2017, Greg Wooledge wrote: Date

Re: Debian, FF & NavyFed

2017-12-19 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Dec 18, 2017 at 06:10:28PM -0800, Mike McClain wrote: > I signed up with Navy Federal Credit Union online banking last week. > I can login, I get the banner in color , it says getting your info. Which browser? ... ... Oh, you're one of those people who hides details in the Subject.

kernel param vga=* and grub2

2017-12-19 Thread john doe
Hi list, I'm booting and installing debian 9 using a serial console. After entering the boot command: "install console=ttyS0,115200n8" the following appeared: "Undefined video mode number: 314 Press to see video modes available, to continue, or wait 30 sec" This can be suppressed by add

Re: foss usb charger

2017-12-19 Thread Neo
Usually such applications come from the HW vendor, I've had an Asus motherboard with such an application (Ai Charge). It just raised the voltage/current/power on an USB port, so it could charge a device faster. This in mind, you will probably have to ask you HW vendor for a linux version of

Re: Debian 9 stretch screen flicker on w3m and command line applications

2017-12-19 Thread Aslam Sayyed
We had similar issues (flickering and continous moving of the screen horizontally) for 2 of our dell latitude 3460 running on Debian 9.3 configured with i915 driver. Observed that it was mostly on terminal with some key combinations like CTRL + C but happened randomly. We choose advance option

Re: mplayer changed behaviour in stretch

2017-12-19 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Dec 18, 2017 at 01:48:13PM -0800, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > I'm a heavy user of mplayer from the command line - it's a wonderful > utility that does what I want [...] There are config files for mplayer; the Debian mplayer puts them in /etc/mplaye

Re: mplayer changed behaviour in stretch

2017-12-19 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Dec 18, 2017 at 06:54:32PM -0500, Marc Auslander wrote: > In stretch mplayer may be linked to mpv - the current prefered > multi-media player in debian. The mplayer2 package does this. Note that mplayer2 is just a dummy package pulling in mpv