Re: Embarrassing security bug in systemd

2017-12-10 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 10 December 2017 23:50:13 David Wright wrote: > On Sun 10 Dec 2017 at 22:17:12 (-0500), Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Sunday 10 December 2017 19:02:49 David Wright wrote: > > > On Sun 10 Dec 2017 at 16:43:02 (-0500), Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > On Sunday 10 December 2017 14:12:09 David Wrig

Re: Embarrassing security bug in systemd

2017-12-10 Thread David Wright
On Sun 10 Dec 2017 at 22:17:12 (-0500), Gene Heskett wrote: > On Sunday 10 December 2017 19:02:49 David Wright wrote: > > > On Sun 10 Dec 2017 at 16:43:02 (-0500), Gene Heskett wrote: > > > On Sunday 10 December 2017 14:12:09 David Wright wrote: > > > > On Sun 10 Dec 2017 at 10:42:53 (-0500), Gene

Re: Embarrassing security bug in systemd

2017-12-10 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 10 December 2017 19:02:49 David Wright wrote: > On Sun 10 Dec 2017 at 16:43:02 (-0500), Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Sunday 10 December 2017 14:12:09 David Wright wrote: > > > On Sun 10 Dec 2017 at 10:42:53 (-0500), Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > For something that can be such a pita, not ins

Re: Embarrassing security bug in systemd

2017-12-10 Thread David Wright
On Sun 10 Dec 2017 at 16:43:02 (-0500), Gene Heskett wrote: > On Sunday 10 December 2017 14:12:09 David Wright wrote: > > > On Sun 10 Dec 2017 at 10:42:53 (-0500), Gene Heskett wrote: > > > For something that can be such a pita, not installing the docs > > > doesn't seem like my error, they should

Re: Embarrassing security bug in systemd

2017-12-10 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 10 December 2017 17:45:36 Brian wrote: > On Sun 10 Dec 2017 at 16:47:05 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Sunday 10 December 2017 15:05:04 Brian wrote: > > > On Sun 10 Dec 2017 at 13:12:09 -0600, David Wright wrote: > > > > On Sun 10 Dec 2017 at 10:42:53 (-0500), Gene Heskett wrote: > >

Re: Embarrassing security bug in systemd

2017-12-10 Thread Brian
On Sun 10 Dec 2017 at 16:47:05 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Sunday 10 December 2017 15:05:04 Brian wrote: > > > On Sun 10 Dec 2017 at 13:12:09 -0600, David Wright wrote: > > > On Sun 10 Dec 2017 at 10:42:53 (-0500), Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > For something that can be such a pita, not install

Re: Embarrassing security bug in systemd

2017-12-10 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 10 December 2017 15:05:04 Brian wrote: > On Sun 10 Dec 2017 at 13:12:09 -0600, David Wright wrote: > > On Sun 10 Dec 2017 at 10:42:53 (-0500), Gene Heskett wrote: > > > For something that can be such a pita, not installing the docs > > > doesn't seem like my error, they should have been

Re: Embarrassing security bug in systemd

2017-12-10 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 10 December 2017 14:12:09 David Wright wrote: > On Sun 10 Dec 2017 at 10:42:53 (-0500), Gene Heskett wrote: > > For something that can be such a pita, not installing the docs > > doesn't seem like my error, they should have been part of the > > install. IMO. > > That's ridiculous. I don'

Re: Embarrassing security bug in systemd

2017-12-10 Thread Brian
On Sat 09 Dec 2017 at 18:36:46 -0500, The Wanderer wrote: > On 2017-12-09 at 09:10, Brian wrote: > > > The Terms and Conditions of installing a Debian package include (as > > I'm sure you are aware) accepting the Depends: and Recomends: lines. > > What is in these lines can be accepted or rejec

Re: Embarrassing security bug in systemd

2017-12-10 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 01:12:09PM -0600, David Wright wrote: > On Sun 10 Dec 2017 at 10:42:53 (-0500), Gene Heskett wrote: > > > For something that can be such a pita, not installing the docs doesn't > > seem like my error, they should have been par

Re: Embarrassing security bug in systemd

2017-12-10 Thread Brian
On Sun 10 Dec 2017 at 13:12:09 -0600, David Wright wrote: > On Sun 10 Dec 2017 at 10:42:53 (-0500), Gene Heskett wrote: > > > For something that can be such a pita, not installing the docs doesn't > > seem like my error, they should have been part of the install. IMO. > > That's ridiculous. I d

Re: unison compatibility in stretch

2017-12-10 Thread Eric S Fraga
On Sunday, 10 Dec 2017 at 12:25, Tony van der Hoff wrote: [...] > In the passt, I've always worked round this by installing the lower > version on my desktop and adjusted the links. This appears no lnger to > be possible. > > Does anyone know how to get round this? (I've no immediate intention to

Re: Embarrassing security bug in systemd

2017-12-10 Thread David Wright
On Sun 10 Dec 2017 at 00:38:12 (-0800), Jimmy Johnson wrote: > On 12/09/2017 08:23 AM, David Wright wrote: > >On Fri 08 Dec 2017 at 18:30:08 (-0800), Jimmy Johnson wrote: > >>On 12/07/2017 02:31 AM, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > >>>On Thu, Dec 07, 2017 at 10:02:56AM +, Tixy wrote: > I'm running

Re: Embarrassing security bug in systemd

2017-12-10 Thread David Wright
On Sun 10 Dec 2017 at 10:42:53 (-0500), Gene Heskett wrote: > For something that can be such a pita, not installing the docs doesn't > seem like my error, they should have been part of the install. IMO. That's ridiculous. I don't want all the docs on all the installations. I only install docs on

hosting emails at home

2017-12-10 Thread André Rodier
Hello everyone, I have been using Postfix and Dovecot on Debian (Since potato) for my personal emails for years. After being tired of reinstalling my personal mail server many times, I am currently writing some Ansible scripts to do it automatically. I obviously checked the other projects, and di

Re: Gnome strange behavior while typing in some windows

2017-12-10 Thread Paulo Roberto
Mark, I searched for "input method" but I couldn't find anything relevant (at least not for me). In Gnome Control Center -> Region & Language I have two Input Sources: Portuguese (Brazil) and English (US) In Input Source Options I have "Use the same source for all windows" checked. In Gnome

Re: Embarrassing security bug in systemd

2017-12-10 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 10 December 2017 05:33:17 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Sat, Dec 09, 2017 at 11:29:58AM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Thats another very sore point. Where are the man pages? Its > > installed on 6, maybe 7 machines here, with zero docs. > > Not a user of policykit here -- I don't like it

Re: unison compatibility in stretch

2017-12-10 Thread Juan R. de Silva
On Sun, 10 Dec 2017 12:25:42 +, Tony van der Hoff wrote: > Hi, > > For years I've been using unison to keep common files amongst my various > systems. > > I now find that stretch provides version 2.48, whereas Jessie provided > 2.40, and they are not compatible. My server, which still runs J

Re: Repharsing [MATE Search Tool -- forcing a default search path]

2017-12-10 Thread Curt
On 2017-12-10, Richard Owlett wrote: > > I have not discovered a pattern in how the default for "Look in folder:" > is determined. Man page for Mate search tool says: OPTIONS --path=PATH Set the text of "Look in folder" search option so presumably (hah!) editing the launcher to mate-searc

Re: Embarrassing security bug in systemd

2017-12-10 Thread Dejan Jocic
On 10-12-17, Joe wrote: > On Sun, 10 Dec 2017 11:02:45 +0100 > Dejan Jocic wrote: > > > On 10-12-17, Joe wrote: > > > On Sun, 10 Dec 2017 00:13:59 +0100 > > > Dejan Jocic wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Man page for pklocalauthority is bit more helpful, but far from > > > > self explanat

Re: Gnome strange behavior while typing in some windows

2017-12-10 Thread Mark Fletcher
On Thu, Dec 07, 2017 at 11:03:04PM +, Paulo Roberto wrote: > Roberto, I figure out how to trigger and disable the problem and I think > it's a BUG. > > The problem occurs when I press SHIFT + SPACE (together). > > I went though the list of shortcuts in the Gnome Control Center under > Devices

Re: unison compatibility in stretch

2017-12-10 Thread Joe
On Sun, 10 Dec 2017 12:25:42 + Tony van der Hoff wrote: > Hi, > > For years I've been using unison to keep common files amongst my > various systems. > > I now find that stretch provides version 2.48, whereas Jessie provided > 2.40, and they are not compatible. My server, which still runs J

Repharsing [MATE Search Tool -- forcing a default search path]

2017-12-10 Thread Richard Owlett
For the *VAST majority* of my searches, I don't know the folder where the desired file is. Either I'm researching a problem with an unfamiliar program or I know that very similar file names exist in several folders. Therefore, I wish to set "Look in folder: to "File System". How? "MATE Search To

Re: kde in stretch is very usable

2017-12-10 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 10:15:17AM +0100, deloptes wrote: > bw wrote: > > > I won't chime in on the main topic, there has been way too much already, > > but this is really undeserved.  The plasma implementation the debian > > maintainers put together for stretch is really pretty nice. > > > > No,

unison compatibility in stretch

2017-12-10 Thread Tony van der Hoff
Hi, For years I've been using unison to keep common files amongst my various systems. I now find that stretch provides version 2.48, whereas Jessie provided 2.40, and they are not compatible. My server, which still runs Jessie, will therefore not accept connections from my desktop box. In the pa

The process for the file protocol died unexpectedly.

2017-12-10 Thread Tony van der Hoff
Hi, After upgrading Jessie to Stretch, using KDE, I am seeing the error message "The process for the file protocol died unexpectedly." when opening Dolphin in su mode. No files are shown. The same happens when invoking Dolphin from a root text console. This does feature in Google searches, bu

Re: Embarrassing security bug in systemd

2017-12-10 Thread Joe
On Sun, 10 Dec 2017 11:02:45 +0100 Dejan Jocic wrote: > On 10-12-17, Joe wrote: > > On Sun, 10 Dec 2017 00:13:59 +0100 > > Dejan Jocic wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Man page for pklocalauthority is bit more helpful, but far from > > > self explanatory. > > > > And not updated for Debian. >

Re: on-screen artifacts (red pixels) at high resolution with Intel HD 630 (Kaby Lake)

2017-12-10 Thread Jörg-Volker Peetz
Hi, could you show your Xorg.0.log files? The Kaby Lake GPU needs some firmware. Therefore, what is the print out of grep firmware /var/log/dmesg ? Regards, jvp.

Re: Embarrassing security bug in systemd

2017-12-10 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, Dec 09, 2017 at 11:29:58AM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > Thats another very sore point. Where are the man pages? Its installed on > 6, maybe 7 machines here, with zero docs. Not a user of policykit here -- I don't like it (as may be deduced fr

Re: Embarrassing security bug in systemd

2017-12-10 Thread Dejan Jocic
On 10-12-17, Joe wrote: > On Sun, 10 Dec 2017 00:13:59 +0100 > Dejan Jocic wrote: > > > > > > Man page for pklocalauthority is bit more helpful, but far from self > > explanatory. > > And not updated for Debian. > > > In its examples section, it provides some insight about > > writing .pkla

Re: on-screen artifacts (red pixels) at high resolution with Intel HD 630 (Kaby Lake)

2017-12-10 Thread Alexandre Rossi
> The image with errors looks as it was manipulated in a photoeditor, eg. > Gamma/levels curves ... Does the driver have some image adjustment enabled? I use defaults everywhere, and the behavior is the same with a ubuntu live image. $ xgamma -> Red 1.000, Green 1.000, Blue 1.000

Re: Embarrassing security bug in systemd

2017-12-10 Thread Joe
On Sun, 10 Dec 2017 00:13:59 +0100 Dejan Jocic wrote: > > Man page for pklocalauthority is bit more helpful, but far from self > explanatory. And not updated for Debian. > In its examples section, it provides some insight about > writing .pkla files, but it does not show all possible options

Re: kde in stretch is very usable

2017-12-10 Thread deloptes
bw wrote: > I won't chime in on the main topic, there has been way too much already, > but this is really undeserved.  The plasma implementation the debian > maintainers put together for stretch is really pretty nice. > > No, it's not perfect, but I'm really good, so it's close. ;-> I recently h

Re: Embarrassing security bug in systemd

2017-12-10 Thread Jimmy Johnson
On 12/09/2017 08:23 AM, David Wright wrote: On Fri 08 Dec 2017 at 18:30:08 (-0800), Jimmy Johnson wrote: On 12/07/2017 02:31 AM, Jonathan Dowland wrote: On Thu, Dec 07, 2017 at 10:02:56AM +, Tixy wrote: I'm running Jessie (with systemd running but booting with sysvinit) and trying to execu