Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD

2017-10-08 Thread anxiousmac
On Monday, 9 October 2017 06:50:03 UTC+1, Jimmy Johnson wrote: > > Is there some kind of man page or something to explain what foo.deb is > and or bar.deb is, because in my 20+ years googling or other ways I > don't understand. If not I've been doing fine without knowing. I will > say I pro

Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD

2017-10-08 Thread Jimmy Johnson
On 10/08/2017 05:29 PM, David Wright wrote: On Sun 08 Oct 2017 at 13:26:54 (-0700), Jimmy Johnson wrote: On 10/08/2017 07:07 AM, Emanuel Berg wrote: Jimmy Johnson wrote: You will need to download the depends too and then cd to the directory that holds the files and #dpkg -i (the package name)

Re: x : keyboard not working

2017-10-08 Thread David Wright
On Sat 07 Oct 2017 at 22:14:41 (+1100), Zenaan Harkness wrote: > Yes I too like to have console work as well as x/gui terms (which I > mostly live in TBH). > > I've now done this over a dozen times in the last month, and > consistently, this works, to get the extra symbols I'm after - and > yes,

Re: x : keyboard not working

2017-10-08 Thread David Wright
On Sat 07 Oct 2017 at 22:14:41 (+1100), Zenaan Harkness wrote: > On Fri, Oct 06, 2017 at 08:37:16PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > > On Fri 06 Oct 2017 at 23:54:36 (+0100), Brian wrote: > > > On Sat 07 Oct 2017 at 09:24:01 +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 06, 2017 at 11:11:52P

Re: x : keyboard not working

2017-10-08 Thread David Wright
On Sat 07 Oct 2017 at 01:11:18 (-0400), Felix Miata wrote: > David Wright composed on 2017-10-06 20:25 (UTC-0500): > > > On Fri 06 Oct 2017 at 18:57:31 (-0400), Felix Miata wrote: > > >> Brian composed on 2017-10-06 23:31 (UTC+0100): > ... > >> > 'setxbdmap -option "terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp"' in ~

Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD

2017-10-08 Thread David Wright
On Sun 08 Oct 2017 at 13:26:54 (-0700), Jimmy Johnson wrote: > On 10/08/2017 07:07 AM, Emanuel Berg wrote: > >Jimmy Johnson wrote: > > > >>You will need to download the depends too and > >>then cd to the directory that holds the files > >>and #dpkg -i (the package name) to install. > > > >OK. How s

Re: Loosing my mind with sending an E-Mail...

2017-10-08 Thread Mark Fletcher
On Sat, Oct 07, 2017 at 04:29:08PM -0300, Eike Lantzsch wrote: > On Saturday, 7 October 2017 00:22:19 -03 Markus Grunwald wrote: > > Hello, > > > > > I'm loosing my mind. Why is that email disappearing? > > > > Well, lost my mind. Thunderbird treated it as spam (doh!) > So Thunderbird is actually

Debian-installer writes /dev/ references in grub.cfg, was Re: Log files: location and description

2017-10-08 Thread David Wright
On Sat 07 Oct 2017 at 09:36:37 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote: > My current problem is finding the appropriate logs to document the > details behind my addendum to Bug 852323. Looking at the grub.cfg written by stretch's d-i RC3, it appears to write linux /boot/vmlinuz-4.9.0-2-686 root=

Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD

2017-10-08 Thread Jimmy Johnson
On 10/08/2017 09:07 AM, Brian wrote: On Sun 08 Oct 2017 at 17:28:31 +0200, Emanuel Berg wrote: Brian wrote: Install using the ethernet connection on the machine. Then sort out the WiFi. Ethernet doesn't work either! After the firmware issue is brought up, the DHCP autoconf fails. You are sa

Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD

2017-10-08 Thread Jimmy Johnson
On 10/08/2017 01:57 PM, bw wrote: On Sun, 8 Oct 2017, Jimmy Johnson wrote: On 10/08/2017 07:07 AM, Emanuel Berg wrote: Jimmy Johnson wrote: You will need to download the depends too and then cd to the directory that holds the files and #dpkg -i (the package name) to install. OK. How shou

Xorg multi-session on Debian 9 with systemd

2017-10-08 Thread Oleg Kostyuk
Hi, I would like to configure multi-session support on freshly-installed Debian 9. Previously I've used Debian 7 with KDE and KDM. It was easy to configure what I needed by setting "StaticServers=:0,:1,:2,:3" in /etc/kde4/kdm/kdmrc and several other tweaks (to decrease number of text consoles to

New stretch kernel: lilo boot fails with "EBDA is big" message

2017-10-08 Thread Bill Brelsford
After the stretch 9.2 kernel upgrade to 4.9.0-4, lilo gives, at boot, "EBDA is big; kernel setup stack overlaps LILO second stage" and freezes. Steps: - After upgrading, I installed irqbalance before re-booting. - Lilo then gave "Loading linux" followed by a line and a half of "." an

Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD

2017-10-08 Thread Brian
On Sun 08 Oct 2017 at 23:34:55 +0200, Emanuel Berg wrote: > Brian wrote: > > > As for following up with a solution - don't > > keep your hopes high. > > ? Two bites of the cherry. https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2017/08/msg00457.html -- Brian.

Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD

2017-10-08 Thread Emanuel Berg
Brian wrote: > As for following up with a solution - don't > keep your hopes high. ? -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573

Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD

2017-10-08 Thread Brian
On Sun 08 Oct 2017 at 17:07:13 -0400, bw wrote: > On Sun, 8 Oct 2017, Emanuel Berg wrote: > > > Actually I don't care about wireless stuff, I always considered it > > unreliable and error-prone and it seems at least in this case I was > > correct :) > > I know there is a legacy of this kind of

Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD

2017-10-08 Thread bw
On Sun, 8 Oct 2017, Jimmy Johnson wrote: > On 10/08/2017 07:07 AM, Emanuel Berg wrote: > > Jimmy Johnson wrote: > > > > > You will need to download the depends too and > > > then cd to the directory that holds the files > > > and #dpkg -i (the package name) to install. > > > > OK. How should t

Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD

2017-10-08 Thread Jimmy Johnson
On 10/08/2017 07:14 AM, Emanuel Berg wrote: Jimmy Johnson wrote: You will need to download the depends too and then cd to the directory that holds the files and #dpkg -i (the package name) to install. Do I abort the OS installation to do this or do I "complete" it without network support and

Re: Log files: location and description

2017-10-08 Thread David Wright
On Sun 08 Oct 2017 at 07:31:23 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote: > On 10/07/2017 03:01 PM, David Wright wrote: > >On Sat 07 Oct 2017 at 09:36:37 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote: > >>[snip] > >> > >>I have a hypothesis, but I need to have facts to back it up. > >>Specifically: > >>1. During the installat

Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD

2017-10-08 Thread Jimmy Johnson
On 10/08/2017 07:07 AM, Emanuel Berg wrote: Jimmy Johnson wrote: You will need to download the depends too and then cd to the directory that holds the files and #dpkg -i (the package name) to install. OK. How should the depends be organized? I.e., the dir structure? You should only need to

Re: Debian packages for Sparc

2017-10-08 Thread Fred
On 10/07/2017 06:48 PM, Sven Hartge wrote: Fred wrote: I have a Sun Ultra 5 that needs to continue running Wheezy for a while. I tried to apt-update but binary_sparc is no longer at http://security.debian.org/dists/wheezy/updates/Release. What do I need to change the sources list to? Debian

Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD

2017-10-08 Thread Emanuel Berg
Brian wrote: > In line with bw's suggestion you can now > provide some hard information to base > theories and solutions on. > > We surmise your computer is connected to > a router by an ethernet cable. Boot the > installer in expert mode and go through the > first two screens. Say "no" to providi

Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD

2017-10-08 Thread Brian
On Sun 08 Oct 2017 at 18:29:04 +0200, Emanuel Berg wrote: > Brian wrote: > > > If "yes", the failure to get an IP address > > via DHCP has nothing to do with missing > > wireless chip firmware. > > OK! > > So any theories as to why that happens?! > > I have another Debian computer there which

Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD

2017-10-08 Thread Emanuel Berg
bw wrote: > Also I did a quick search for Compaq 6720s > and it the links I found don;t mention > a broadcom device, it should have an intel > wireless setup? ... okay? Actually I don't care about wireless stuff, I always considered it unreliable and error-prone and it seems at least in this cas

Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD

2017-10-08 Thread Emanuel Berg
Brian wrote: > If "yes", the failure to get an IP address > via DHCP has nothing to do with missing > wireless chip firmware. OK! So any theories as to why that happens?! I have another Debian computer there which doesn't have an Ethernet problem save for I run 'dhclient eth0' every time the co

Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD

2017-10-08 Thread Brian
On Sun 08 Oct 2017 at 17:28:31 +0200, Emanuel Berg wrote: > Brian wrote: > > > Install using the ethernet connection on the > > machine. Then sort out the WiFi. > > Ethernet doesn't work either! After the > firmware issue is brought up, the DHCP autoconf > fails. You are saying this isn't relate

Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD

2017-10-08 Thread Emanuel Berg
Brian wrote: > Install using the ethernet connection on the > machine. Then sort out the WiFi. Ethernet doesn't work either! After the firmware issue is brought up, the DHCP autoconf fails. You are saying this isn't related to the missing firmware? If the firmware is only for WiFi, then it is a

Re: Log files: location and description

2017-10-08 Thread Richard Owlett
On 10/08/2017 09:40 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Oct 08, 2017 at 08:58:11AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: On 10/08/2017 07:38 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Oct 08, 2017 at 07:31:23AM -0500,

Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD

2017-10-08 Thread Curt
On 2017-10-08, Emanuel Berg wrote: > Jimmy Johnson wrote: > >> You will need to download the depends too and >> then cd to the directory that holds the files >> and #dpkg -i (the package name) to install. > > OK. How should the depends be organized? I.e., > the dir structure? > I opened up the is

Re: Log files: location and description

2017-10-08 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Oct 08, 2017 at 08:58:11AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 10/08/2017 07:38 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > >-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > >Hash: SHA1 > > > >On Sun, Oct 08, 2017 at 07:31:23AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: [...] > >In a

Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD

2017-10-08 Thread Richard Owlett
On 10/08/2017 09:14 AM, Emanuel Berg wrote: Jimmy Johnson wrote: You will need to download the depends too and then cd to the directory that holds the files and #dpkg -i (the package name) to install. Do I abort the OS installation to do this or do I "complete" it without network support and

Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD

2017-10-08 Thread Brian
On Sun 08 Oct 2017 at 15:45:40 +0200, Emanuel Berg wrote: > Brian wrote: > > > https://wiki.debian.org/bcm43xx > > Thanks, however the installation guide says use > the Internet to get it, and the reason that > isn't working is the missing firmware! Install using the ethernet connection on the

Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD

2017-10-08 Thread Emanuel Berg
Jimmy Johnson wrote: > You will need to download the depends too and > then cd to the directory that holds the files > and #dpkg -i (the package name) to install. Do I abort the OS installation to do this or do I "complete" it without network support and then patch it later? That probably makes

Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD

2017-10-08 Thread Emanuel Berg
Jimmy Johnson wrote: > You will need to download the depends too and > then cd to the directory that holds the files > and #dpkg -i (the package name) to install. Or do you mean install the depends the same way? I hope they don't depend on too much as well :) -- underground experts united http:

Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD

2017-10-08 Thread Emanuel Berg
Jimmy Johnson wrote: > You will need to download the depends too and > then cd to the directory that holds the files > and #dpkg -i (the package name) to install. OK. How should the depends be organized? I.e., the dir structure? -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573

Re: Log files: location and description

2017-10-08 Thread Richard Owlett
On 10/08/2017 07:38 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Oct 08, 2017 at 07:31:23AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: On 10/07/2017 03:01 PM, David Wright wrote: On Sat 07 Oct 2017 at 09:36:37 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote: [...] No idea about the oth

Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD

2017-10-08 Thread Jimmy Johnson
On 10/08/2017 06:48 AM, Emanuel Berg wrote: Jimmy Johnson wrote: Is this what you are looking for: https://packages.debian.org/stretch/firmware-b43-installer Can I download that package with another computer, install Debian without network support, bring the installer over, and manually insta

Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD

2017-10-08 Thread Emanuel Berg
Jimmy Johnson wrote: > https://packages.debian.org/stretch/firmware-b43-installer The installer (the Debian installer on the laptop) says I can insert a USB stick with the missing firmware to patch the installation. However it doesn't say in what form it should come. Just having the files on the

Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD

2017-10-08 Thread Emanuel Berg
Jimmy Johnson wrote: > Is this what you are looking for: > https://packages.debian.org/stretch/firmware-b43-installer Can I download that package with another computer, install Debian without network support, bring the installer over, and manually install it without Internet? If so, how? -- un

Re: Log files: location and description

2017-10-08 Thread Richard Owlett
On 10/07/2017 03:01 PM, David Wright wrote: On Sat 07 Oct 2017 at 09:36:37 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote: [snip] I have a hypothesis, but I need to have facts to back it up. Specifically: 1. During the installation process I need to inventory when and "as what" various USB devices are recogn

Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD

2017-10-08 Thread Emanuel Berg
Brian wrote: > https://wiki.debian.org/bcm43xx Thanks, however the installation guide says use the Internet to get it, and the reason that isn't working is the missing firmware! -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573

Re: Log files: location and description

2017-10-08 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Oct 08, 2017 at 07:31:23AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 10/07/2017 03:01 PM, David Wright wrote: > >On Sat 07 Oct 2017 at 09:36:37 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote: [...] No idea about the other things, but: > I don't understand. > Accordi

Re: HD device name assignments

2017-10-08 Thread Richard Owlett
On 10/07/2017 03:24 PM, Felix Miata wrote: David Wright composed on 2017-10-07 15:01 (UTC-0500): it might be worth pointing out that it has been reported here that a USB3 stick inserted at boot can demote the internal disk to /dev/sdb. It need not be v3 of USB, and it's one of the prime reaso

Re: Log files: location and description

2017-10-08 Thread Richard Owlett
On 10/07/2017 03:01 PM, David Wright wrote: On Sat 07 Oct 2017 at 09:36:37 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote: [snip] I have a hypothesis, but I need to have facts to back it up. Specifically: 1. During the installation process I need to inventory when and "as what" various USB devices are recogn

Re: Blank screen bug

2017-10-08 Thread anxiousmac
On Sunday, 8 October 2017 11:10:04 UTC+1, Tim wrote: > First of all, sorry for my late reply: It took me a while before I > realized this is a mailing list. [snip] I have exactly the same problem with the same model of laptop ( HP EliteBook 840) >From time to time the screen goes blank for 2-

Re: Blank screen bug

2017-10-08 Thread Jimmy Johnson
On 10/08/2017 03:00 AM, Tim wrote: First of all, sorry for my late reply: It took me a while before I realized this is a mailing list. (I also hope Evolution is smart enough to figure out to send the right In-Reply-To header.) On Sat, 23 Sep 2017 20:28:59 -0500, David Wright wrote: Does the scr

Re: Blank screen bug

2017-10-08 Thread Tim
First of all, sorry for my late reply: It took me a while before I realized this is a mailing list. (I also hope Evolution is smart enough to figure out to send the right In-Reply-To header.) On Sat, 23 Sep 2017 20:28:59 -0500, David Wright wrote: > Does the screen turn blank after a random time,

Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD

2017-10-08 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Oct 08, 2017 at 05:17:44AM -0400, bw wrote: [...] > Yes, that isn't included. The firmware must be extracted from the > proprietary (windows?) driver from Broadcom. It's possibly a legal hurdle > set up by the manufacturer? Yeah. If anyo

Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD

2017-10-08 Thread Jimmy Johnson
On 10/08/2017 12:46 AM, Emanuel Berg wrote: First I downloaded this ISO: https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/i386/iso-cd/firmware-9.2.0-i386-netinst.iso Then I burned it onto a CD-R, and booted into the installer. The computer is a HP Comp

Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD

2017-10-08 Thread Brian
On Sun 08 Oct 2017 at 09:46:19 +0200, Emanuel Berg wrote: > First I downloaded this ISO: > > > https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/i386/iso-cd/firmware-9.2.0-i386-netinst.iso > > Then I burned it onto a CD-R, and booted into > the installer.

Re: What happen if I start following stable after upgrading to unstable?

2017-10-08 Thread Daniel Keast
On Sun, Oct 08, 2017 at 06:30:03AM +0330, Mostafa Shahverdy wrote: > > Yes. I am assuming you made a new stable installation, you have not > > just changed the repository from unstable to stable. That will most > > definitely not work. > > > > Are you asking why only a few packages are upgraded, c

Re: What happen if I start following stable after upgrading to unstable?

2017-10-08 Thread deloptes
Mostafa Shahverdy wrote: > I believe unstable was `buster` and my current installed packages are > from `buster`. I know that most my packages are ahead, but what about > like 10 month from now that `buster` becomes stable? cat /etc/debian_version 9.1 is stretch I would suggest keep the name bust

non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD

2017-10-08 Thread Emanuel Berg
First I downloaded this ISO: https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/i386/iso-cd/firmware-9.2.0-i386-netinst.iso Then I burned it onto a CD-R, and booted into the installer. The computer is a HP Compaq 6720s laptop. However the installer doesn't

Re: Trying to understand keymaps in virtual console.

2017-10-08 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, Oct 07, 2017 at 10:49:41PM -, apreka...@openmailbox.org wrote: > Trying to examine why i cant insert acute accent diacritic over greek vowels > i come upon the console-common package. > Trying to install it i get prompted: > > -Select k