Re: SOLVED - Re: xfce4-terminal fails to “pass through” environment variables

2017-10-02 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Oct 03, 2017 at 08:25:40AM +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote: [...] > Tomas - I will try your Liberation font suggestion, but xfce term is > giving me a rock solid "Fixed" experience, AND the fancy character > dancing... for me, this is peak produ

This (new to me) ip thingy

2017-10-02 Thread Gene Heskett
Greetings; Confusion still reigns here. For instance: oot@coyote:~# ip m l eth0 2: eth0 link 01:00:5e:00:00:01 link 33:33:00:00:02:02 link 33:33:00:00:00:01 link 01:00:5e:00:00:fb link 33:33:ff:62:fc:bb link 33:33:00:00:00:fb inet

Re: Can't find the DNS Servers

2017-10-02 Thread David Wright
On Mon 02 Oct 2017 at 21:32:40 (+0300), Reco wrote: > Hi. > > On Mon, Oct 02, 2017 at 11:15:16AM -0500, David Wright wrote: > > On Mon 02 Oct 2017 at 10:00:28 (+0300), Reco wrote: > > > > > To bring order to this chaos, you'll need this e/n/i: > > > > > > auto enp4s0 > > > iface enp4s0 ine

Re: Prevent apt/dpkg from automatically enabling services during the upgrade process.

2017-10-02 Thread Ben Caradoc-Davies
On 03/10/17 08:55, Victor wrote: Dear Debian friends, I use Debian Sid as my home distribution, and I have an annoying problem. If I disable some services with "systemctl disable service", it happens that whenever an upgrade of any service's package appears, apt/dpkg will automatically enable the

why do not break debian ?

2017-10-02 Thread mizett
to : por...@narod.ru (yandex) https://wiki.debian.org/ru/FrontPage https://www.debian.org/index.ru.html https://lists.debian.org/debian-russian/ https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian : Translation(s): English - Français - Español

Re: debian-user-digest Digest V2017 #107

2017-10-02 Thread Ben Caradoc-Davies
On 03/10/17 05:10, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Steven Ponton wrote: Please can you unsubscribe me, far to many emails come through If a first unsubscribe request does not work, you might need to send the next request from that mail address. More ways to unsubscribe are given here: https://www.debia

v4l2 cameras in stretch.

2017-10-02 Thread peter
Another stretch system has a JVC camera connected to a Hauppauge framegrabber. It works no better than the USB camera referenced in the header. guest@imager:/dev$ mpv tv:// --tv-device=/dev/video0 Playing: tv:// [tv] Selected driver: v4l2 [tv] name: Video 4 Linux 2 input [tv] Selected device:

Re: SOLVED - Re: xfce4-terminal fails to “pass through” environment variables

2017-10-02 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Mon, Oct 02, 2017 at 08:41:22AM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: > On Mon, Oct 02, 2017 at 10:52:11PM +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > > I'm using font "Fixed SemiCondensed" 8 pt in xfce4-term - and it > > seems xfce4-terminal has some fallback to either some other font(s?) > > but in any case, displa

Re: Prevent apt/dpkg from automatically enabling services during the upgrade process.

2017-10-02 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2017-10-02 19:55 +, Victor wrote: > I use Debian Sid as my home distribution, and I have an annoying > problem. If I disable some services with "systemctl disable service", it > happens that whenever an upgrade of any service's package appears, > apt/dpkg will automatically enable the servi

Re: Why stretch-backports does not work for kate package?

2017-10-02 Thread Victor Porton
Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: > Better fix that "FrankenDebian" first. > Please read and understand this useful article: > https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian It is not a problem for me, because I use "APT::Default-Release stretch;" in apt.conf. This makes to install from stretch by default.

Re: Prevent apt/dpkg from automatically enabling services during the upgrade process.

2017-10-02 Thread Reco
Hi. On Mon, Oct 02, 2017 at 07:55:11PM +, Victor wrote: > Dear Debian friends, > > I use Debian Sid as my home distribution, and I have an annoying > problem. If I disable some services with "systemctl disable service", it > happens that whenever an upgrade of any service's package ap

Prevent apt/dpkg from automatically enabling services during the upgrade process.

2017-10-02 Thread Victor
Dear Debian friends, I use Debian Sid as my home distribution, and I have an annoying problem. If I disable some services with "systemctl disable service", it happens that whenever an upgrade of any service's package appears, apt/dpkg will automatically enable the service during the upgrade proces

Re: Can't find the DNS Servers

2017-10-02 Thread Reco
Hi. On Mon, Oct 02, 2017 at 11:15:16AM -0500, David Wright wrote: > On Mon 02 Oct 2017 at 10:00:28 (+0300), Reco wrote: > > > To bring order to this chaos, you'll need this e/n/i: > > > > auto enp4s0 > > iface enp4s0 inet dhcp > > dns-nameserver 8.8.4.4 > > dns-nameserver 8.8.8.8

Re: Can't find the DNS Servers

2017-10-02 Thread David Wright
On Mon 02 Oct 2017 at 06:26:08 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 02 October 2017 03:00:28 Reco wrote: > > > Hi. > > > > On Sun, Oct 01, 2017 at 07:26:30PM -0700, Gary Roach wrote: > > > This is the second time I've tried to send this. The first one just > > > disappeared to the bit buck

Re: Can't find the DNS Servers

2017-10-02 Thread David Wright
On Mon 02 Oct 2017 at 10:00:28 (+0300), Reco wrote: > To bring order to this chaos, you'll need this e/n/i: > > auto enp4s0 > iface enp4s0 inet dhcp > dns-nameserver 8.8.4.4 > dns-nameserver 8.8.8.8 > > Please note the indentation, … which looks tidy, but the indentation carries no

Re: debian-user-digest Digest V2017 #107

2017-10-02 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Steven Ponton wrote: > Please can you unsubscribe me, far to many emails come through You need to mail from the subscribed address to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with the exact subject text: unsubscribe Your mail to the list lacks the usual indication of a subscribed mail ad

Re: Icons for mount points (Continuing with configuring our "new" Debian server

2017-10-02 Thread James H. H. Lampert
About a week and a half before I went on my fall vacation, acting on recommendations from a couple of List members, I moved the mount point for the "Auxiliary" mirrored pair I added from "Media" to the file system root, and it works quite nicely. Just before my vacation, I asked a question about

Re: Free TCP/IP port numbers?

2017-10-02 Thread Reco
Hi. On Mon, Oct 02, 2017 at 10:23:36AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 02 October 2017 10:04:05 Reco wrote: > > > Hi. > > > > On Mon, Oct 02, 2017 at 09:39:38AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > On Sun, Oct 01, 2017 at 05:47:52PM +0300, Reco wrote: > > > > Patches are welcome.

Re: USB camera;

2017-10-02 Thread Reco
Hi. On Mon, Oct 02, 2017 at 07:28:58AM -0700, pe...@easthope.ca wrote: > From: Reco > Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2017 10:16:20 +0300 > > Try (assuming that you have appropriate device permissions): > > > > mpv tv:// --tv-device=/dev/video0 > > peter@dalton:~$ mpv tv:// --tv-device=/dev/video0 > P

Re: debian-user-digest Digest V2017 #1077

2017-10-02 Thread Steven Ponton
Hello, Please can you unsubscribe me, far to many emails come through 😀 On 2 Oct 2017 13:03, wrote: > Content-Type: text/plain > > debian-user-digest Digest Volume 2017 : > Issue 1077 > > Today's Topics: > Re: Supper slow USB disk [ Mostafa Shahverdy

Re: USB camera;

2017-10-02 Thread peter
From: Reco Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2017 10:16:20 +0300 > Try (assuming that you have appropriate device permissions): > > mpv tv:// --tv-device=/dev/video0 peter@dalton:~$ mpv tv:// --tv-device=/dev/video0 Playing: tv:// [tv] Selected driver: v4l2 [tv] name: Video 4 Linux 2 input [tv] your device driv

Re: Free TCP/IP port numbers?

2017-10-02 Thread rhkramer
On Monday, October 02, 2017 09:39:38 AM Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Sun, Oct 01, 2017 at 05:47:52PM +0300, Reco wrote: > > Patches are welcome. File a bug against "grep" package, make a world a > > better place. > > It has been my experience, in general, that man page patches are rarely > welcome.

Re: Free TCP/IP port numbers?

2017-10-02 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 02 October 2017 10:04:05 Reco wrote: > Hi. > > On Mon, Oct 02, 2017 at 09:39:38AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Sun, Oct 01, 2017 at 05:47:52PM +0300, Reco wrote: > > > Patches are welcome. File a bug against "grep" package, make a > > > world a better place. > > > > It has be

Re: Free TCP/IP port numbers?

2017-10-02 Thread Reco
Hi. On Mon, Oct 02, 2017 at 09:39:38AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Sun, Oct 01, 2017 at 05:47:52PM +0300, Reco wrote: > > Patches are welcome. File a bug against "grep" package, make a world a > > better place. > > It has been my experience, in general, that man page patches are rare

Re: Free TCP/IP port numbers?

2017-10-02 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sun, Oct 01, 2017 at 05:47:52PM +0300, Reco wrote: > Patches are welcome. File a bug against "grep" package, make a world a > better place. It has been my experience, in general, that man page patches are rarely welcome. Especially by Debian packagers of programs that get their man pages from

Re: Why stretch-backports does not work for kate package?

2017-10-02 Thread Alexander V. Makartsev
Better fix that "FrankenDebian" first. Please read and understand this useful article: https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian On 02.10.2017 15:53, Victor Porton wrote: > $ cat /etc/apt/sources.list > deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ stretch main contrib non-free > deb http://httpredir.deb

Re: SOLVED - Re: xfce4-terminal fails to “pass through” environment variables

2017-10-02 Thread Michael Stone
On Mon, Oct 02, 2017 at 10:52:11PM +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote: I'm using font "Fixed SemiCondensed" 8 pt in xfce4-term - and it seems xfce4-terminal has some fallback to either some other font(s?) but in any case, displays all Unicode chars I've tried to display, whereas xterm fails on some cha

Re: monit and systemd

2017-10-02 Thread Sven Hartge
Debian EN wrote: > someone using monit? > with systemd and different handles of PID files, what is the best way > to configure monit? > i.e. smartd (started from systemd) doesn't have /run/smartd.pid and > monit doesn't "see" that pid > any idea? Replace monit with the Restart capabilities of

Re: SOLVED - Re: xfce4-terminal fails to “pass through” environment variables

2017-10-02 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Oct 02, 2017 at 10:52:11PM +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > On Mon, Oct 02, 2017 at 01:38:07PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > A couple of years ago or five, I switched back to xterm (from a random > > walk which included gnome-terminal at so

Re: SOLVED - Re: xfce4-terminal fails to “pass through” environment variables

2017-10-02 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Mon, Oct 02, 2017 at 01:38:07PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > A couple of years ago or five, I switched back to xterm (from a random > walk which included gnome-terminal at some point). Xterm had fixed its > UTF-8 problems, could use modern fonts and all that. > > Reading your accounts remim

Re: SOLVED - Re: xfce4-terminal fails to “pass through” environment variables

2017-10-02 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Oct 02, 2017 at 10:13:47PM +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > On Mon, Oct 02, 2017 at 01:33:01PM +0300, Reco wrote: [...] > > --disable-server removes xfce4-terminal ability to talk to DBUS, which > > is intended be used, presumably (too lazy to

Re: SOLVED - Re: xfce4-terminal fails to “pass through” environment variables

2017-10-02 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Mon, Oct 02, 2017 at 01:33:01PM +0300, Reco wrote: > Hi. > > On Mon, Oct 02, 2017 at 08:11:14PM +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 02, 2017 at 10:19:44AM +0300, Reco wrote: > > > Hi. > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 02, 2017 at 02:58:59PM +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > > > > >From t

Re: monit and systemd

2017-10-02 Thread Michael Stone
On Mon, Oct 02, 2017 at 10:29:52AM +0200, Debian EN wrote: someone using monit? with systemd and different handles of PID files, what is the best way to configure monit? i.e. smartd (started from systemd) doesn't have /run/smartd.pid and monit doesn't "see" that pid any idea? What are yo

Why stretch-backports does not work for kate package?

2017-10-02 Thread Victor Porton
Backports is meant to install a package using old libs. Why does it not work for kate? # cat /etc/apt/apt.conf Acquire::http::Proxy ""; Acquire::ftp::Proxy ""; APT::Default-Release stretch; $ cat /etc/apt/sources.list deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ stretch main contrib non-free deb htt

Re: E-mail headers 101 (was: Can't find the DNS Servers)

2017-10-02 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 02 October 2017 06:39:00 Reco wrote: > On Mon, Oct 02, 2017 at 06:26:08AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Monday 02 October 2017 03:00:28 Reco wrote: > > > Hi. > > > > > > On Sun, Oct 01, 2017 at 07:26:30PM -0700, Gary Roach wrote: > > > > This is the second time I've tried to send t

Re: Free TCP/IP port numbers?

2017-10-02 Thread Michael Stone
On Mon, Oct 02, 2017 at 10:19:42AM -, Dan Purgert wrote: Trouble with ports <1024 is that the process trying to use them will need root permissions to bind to the port. This may cause its own fallout rather than using something in the upper range. And the advantage of such a port is that a

Re: E-mail headers 101 (was: Can't find the DNS Servers)

2017-10-02 Thread Reco
On Mon, Oct 02, 2017 at 06:26:08AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 02 October 2017 03:00:28 Reco wrote: > > > Hi. > > > > On Sun, Oct 01, 2017 at 07:26:30PM -0700, Gary Roach wrote: > > > This is the second time I've tried to send this. The first one just > > > disappeared to the bit bu

Re: SOLVED - Re: xfce4-terminal fails to “pass through” environment variables

2017-10-02 Thread Reco
Hi. On Mon, Oct 02, 2017 at 08:11:14PM +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > On Mon, Oct 02, 2017 at 10:19:44AM +0300, Reco wrote: > > Hi. > > > > On Mon, Oct 02, 2017 at 02:58:59PM +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > > > >From terminal A (may be xterm or xfce4-terminal), launch terminals: > >

Re: Can't find the DNS Servers

2017-10-02 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 02 October 2017 03:00:28 Reco wrote: > Hi. > > On Sun, Oct 01, 2017 at 07:26:30PM -0700, Gary Roach wrote: > > This is the second time I've tried to send this. The first one just > > disappeared to the bit bucket I assume. So lets try again. > > It did not. Everyone on the list got

Re: Free TCP/IP port numbers?

2017-10-02 Thread Dan Purgert
Gene Heskett wrote: > On Sunday 01 October 2017 03:34:19 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > >> On Sun, Oct 01, 2017 at 01:28:39AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: >> >> [...] >> >> > > > Assuring that my port is not in this IANA list is not enough to >> > > > ensure that my port number will not clash with a port

Re: Free TCP/IP port numbers?

2017-10-02 Thread Dan Purgert
shawn wilson wrote: > [...] > Lastly, certain ports are so old, their intended services shouldn't be > online anymore (see the first 20 ports or 90-110 - off the top of my > head - not sitting here and going through them) or if the service > probably won't be used in ICS or on a box designed to be

SOLVED - Re: xfce4-terminal fails to “pass through” environment variables

2017-10-02 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Mon, Oct 02, 2017 at 10:19:44AM +0300, Reco wrote: > Hi. > > On Mon, Oct 02, 2017 at 02:58:59PM +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > > >From terminal A (may be xterm or xfce4-terminal), launch terminals: > > > > MYVAR="wow - some text!" xterm & > > MYVAR="wow - some text!" xfce4-terminal &

monit and systemd

2017-10-02 Thread Debian EN
Hello all, someone using monit? with systemd and different handles of PID files, what is the best way to configure monit? i.e. smartd (started from systemd) doesn't have /run/smartd.pid and monit doesn't "see" that pid any idea? thanks! Pol

Re: xfce4-terminal fails to “pass through” environment variables

2017-10-02 Thread Reco
Hi. On Mon, Oct 02, 2017 at 02:58:59PM +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > >From terminal A (may be xterm or xfce4-terminal), launch terminals: > > MYVAR="wow - some text!" xterm & > MYVAR="wow - some text!" xfce4-terminal & > > Now from those terminals, run: > > echo $MYVAR > > > In x

Re: USB camera;

2017-10-02 Thread Reco
On Sun, Oct 01, 2017 at 04:12:19PM -0700, pe...@easthope.ca wrote: > * From: Reco > * Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2017 14:10:35 +0300 > > reportbug is teasing you. > > Today's kernel update bumped the kernel to 4.9.30-2+deb9u5. > > Update the kernel, disregard reportbug warning and file a bugreport.

Re: Can't find the DNS Servers

2017-10-02 Thread Reco
Hi. On Sun, Oct 01, 2017 at 07:26:30PM -0700, Gary Roach wrote: > This is the second time I've tried to send this. The first one just > disappeared to the bit bucket I assume. So lets try again. It did not. Everyone on the list got it, I believe. > Sorry about the delay in replying to yo