Re: Laptop randomly reboots

2017-09-04 Thread Sam Smith
On 08/28/2017 03:32 PM, Sam Smith wrote: On 06/13/2017 02:27 PM, Sam Smith wrote: On 05/12/2017 03:38 PM, Sam Smith wrote: On 01/20/2017 08:04 PM, Sam Smith wrote: I'll try to keep this short. I bought a used Lenovo T520 back in May. It had the motherboard with nvidia GPU. Because it sucks po

Re: (solved) Re: how to roll back to jessie

2017-09-04 Thread Glenn English
On Mon, Sep 4, 2017 at 4:16 AM, Long Wind wrote: > Thanks! > > I finds today that it's really not jessie > it's wheezy > > it seems that wheezy is not too old for me Wheezy works good. Reliable piece of software. That's what's on my server. Jessie's OK. One of my virtual websites didn't work --

Re: Recommended editor for novice programmers?

2017-09-04 Thread The Wanderer
On 2017-09-04 at 17:23, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: >> On 9/2/17, 7:29 PM, Doug wrote: >> >>> There must be something simpler than emacs or vi that will still >>> allow coding formatting! > > There are quite a few GUI editors that support coding formatting, > some by an interface to something like

Re: Recommended editor for novice programmers?

2017-09-04 Thread rhkramer
> On 9/2/17, 7:29 PM, Doug wrote: > > There must be something simpler than emacs or vi that will still allow > > coding formatting! There are quite a few GUI editors that support coding formatting, some by an interface to something like a pretty printer, and some by autoindent in various flavors

Re: Install on hp-pavilion-g6-2100 stops at 98%

2017-09-04 Thread Luis Speciale
Le 04/09/2017 à 19:56, Thomas Schmitt a écrit : That's a good sign. If it does not offer resistence then it s not worth. Como en el truco. Lo que cuesta, vale. ;) Luis

Security updates (Was: (solved) how to roll back to jessie)

2017-09-04 Thread Mario Castelán Castro
On 04/09/17 02:58, Long Wind wrote: > i do not install security update > and it not cause trouble for me Hello. I am wondering: Why do you choose to not to install security updates? There seems to be nothing to gain and much to lose with that choice. -- Do not eat animals; respect them as you res

Re: Install on hp-pavilion-g6-2100 stops at 98%

2017-09-04 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Brian wrote: > Rate art? "Raten" = to guess. "Kunst" = art. But together it's more down-home. Guesscraft, maybe. Lecture announcement: Guesscraft II. Room 201, monday and thursday 10:00 ct. > "casemate" is to do with gun emplacements. In german it sounds like the words for cheese and pad.

Re: Install on hp-pavilion-g6-2100 stops at 98%

2017-09-04 Thread Brian
On Mon 04 Sep 2017 at 21:23:57 +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > Brian wrote: > > A stochastic guy? > > German wikipedia says it's greek: stochastikē technē = The Art of Guessing. Something similar with en. > Some mathematician obviously thought that Ratekunst does not sound Rate art? >

Re: Install on hp-pavilion-g6-2100 stops at 98%

2017-09-04 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Brian wrote: > A stochastic guy? German wikipedia says it's greek: stochastikē technē = The Art of Guessing. Some mathematician obviously thought that Ratekunst does not sound impressive enough. Back then, greek was mandatory for getting to university. So the word got unearthed and re-used i

Re: Install on hp-pavilion-g6-2100 stops at 98%

2017-09-04 Thread Brian
On Mon 04 Sep 2017 at 20:17:58 +0200, Luis Speciale wrote: > I'm beginning to believe that you overestimate my skills. I'm not > complaining, but I need some time to read all this. > Anyway, I must admit that I don't have a solid theoretical background, I'm > mostly an stochastic guy. I mean that

Re: Install on hp-pavilion-g6-2100 stops at 98%

2017-09-04 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, > I need some time to read all this. It took me a while to learn it. We grow with our challenges. :)) I must emphasize that one can be a great Debian expert without knowing any of those details. On the other hand, i am a rather mediocre admin of my Debian system. "apt-file search" and "apt-g

Re: Install on hp-pavilion-g6-2100 stops at 98%

2017-09-04 Thread Luis Speciale
Le 04/09/2017 à 19:56, Thomas Schmitt a écrit : Hi, i wrote: This would be a preparation for a method that works by unpacking. Luis Speciale wrote: ? There are two ways to bring a bootable ISO onto a USB stick: - The old way is to create a partition with a filesystem (FAT32 is not the

Re: Install on hp-pavilion-g6-2100 stops at 98%

2017-09-04 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, i wrote: > > This would be a preparation for a method that works by unpacking. Luis Speciale wrote: > ? There are two ways to bring a bootable ISO onto a USB stick: - The old way is to create a partition with a filesystem (FAT32 is not the best choice because it has so poor filenames),

Re: Install on hp-pavilion-g6-2100 stops at 98%

2017-09-04 Thread Luis Speciale
Le 04/09/2017 à 18:27, Thomas Schmitt a écrit : Hi, Cindy-Sue Causey wrote: Are you saying that it looks like he copied straight to the device instead of to a mount point? Yes, i believe it is so. I cannot be totally sure, because i have no MacOS at hand. But /dev/disk1 is a whole disk device

Re: Install on hp-pavilion-g6-2100 stops at 98%

2017-09-04 Thread Luis Speciale
Le 04/09/2017 à 14:05, Thomas Schmitt a écrit : I don't understand some things you wrote, so I'll mark this items by a question mark… I formated the USB as FAT32 in my iMac This would be a preparation for a method that works by unpacking. ? I downloaded the firmware version firmware-9.1

Re: (solved) how to roll back to jessie

2017-09-04 Thread Cindy-Sue Causey
On 9/4/17, Long Wind wrote: > > > On Mon, 9/4/17, Felix Miata wrote: > > >> Wheezy support is >> scheduled to terminate less than 9 months from today. >> Maybe >> now is a good time to consider at >> least Jessie if not Stretch, since you're >> i

Re: Install on hp-pavilion-g6-2100 stops at 98%

2017-09-04 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Cindy-Sue Causey wrote: > Are you saying that it looks like he copied straight to > the device instead of to a mount point? Yes, i believe it is so. I cannot be totally sure, because i have no MacOS at hand. But /dev/disk1 is a whole disk device, according to web and other confirmations. No U

Re: Install on hp-pavilion-g6-2100 stops at 98%

2017-09-04 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 04 September 2017 11:57:19 Cindy-Sue Causey wrote: > On 9/4/17, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Luis Speciale wrote: > >> sudo cp firmware-9.1.0-amd64-netinst.iso /dev/disk1 > > > > You copy to the device file, not to the mount directory. At least on > > GNU/Linux this is like "dd

Re: Recommended editor for novice programmers?

2017-09-04 Thread Morten Bo Johansen
On 2017-09-02 Tom Browder wrote: > I would especially appreciate other ideas for programming editors for > novice programmers. Jed, http://www.jedsoft.org/jed/, is highly recommendable! Morten

Re: Install on hp-pavilion-g6-2100 stops at 98%

2017-09-04 Thread Cindy-Sue Causey
On 9/4/17, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > Luis Speciale wrote: > >> sudo cp firmware-9.1.0-amd64-netinst.iso /dev/disk1 > > You copy to the device file, not to the mount directory. At least on > GNU/Linux this is like "dd". On MacOS it might differ but it will not > put the ISO as file into the F

Re: network trouble on stretch

2017-09-04 Thread Glenn English
Very sorry. I told you guys some horrible lies yesterday about Buster. ifupdown is there. route is back. ifconfig is back. Thanks much, Fungi4All, for the name fix, I haven't implemented it yet, and I'm not sure I will because who knows what'll happen in the next release. I'm going to try to li

Re: external USB hard drive mount permissions

2017-09-04 Thread James H. H. Lampert
On 9/2/17, 6:01 AM, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: On 02-09-2017 09:29, Federico Beffa wrote: I'm using Debian Stretch with Gnome. When I plug-in an external USB hard drive (ext4) it gets automatically mounted at /media/beffa/label. but the device is still only writable by root. How can I tell t

Re: Recommended editor for novice programmers?

2017-09-04 Thread James H. H. Lampert
On 9/2/17, 7:29 PM, Doug wrote: There must be something simpler than emacs or vi that will still allow coding formatting! Personally, I use nano from a terminal session, or GEdit from a Gnome session. -- JHHL

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Re: Recommended editor for novice programmers?

2017-09-04 Thread solitone
On Sunday, 3 September 2017 21:33:55 CEST Dejan Jocic wrote: > On 03-09-17, solitone wrote: > > But is there anything that can do code autocomplation, for C++ or Java for > > instance? Like getting the list of methods available for an object, when > > typing a dot, as a typical IDE would do. > > F

Re: network trouble on stretch

2017-09-04 Thread Felix Miata
Fungi4All composed on 2017-09-04 07:16 (UTC-0400): >> From: mrma...@earthlink.net To: debian-user@lists.debian.org >> Erik Christiansen composed on 2017-09-04 18:06 (UTC+1000): >>> But Fungi4All"s solution is so easy to use that I"m won over, and have >>> implemented it here. >> I think I start

Re: Install on hp-pavilion-g6-2100 stops at 98%

2017-09-04 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Luis Speciale wrote: > I formated the USB as FAT32 in my iMac This would be a preparation for a method that works by unpacking. > I downloaded the firmware version firmware-9.1.0-amd64-netinst.iso This could have been the decisive trick. Laptop and the need for non-free firmware are a know

Re: Install on hp-pavilion-g6-2100 stops at 98% (SOLVED)

2017-09-04 Thread Luis Speciale
Oups. Forgot to mark this thread as SOLVED

Re: Install on hp-pavilion-g6-2100 stops at 98%

2017-09-04 Thread Luis Speciale
Le 03/09/2017 à 19:40, Thomas Schmitt a écrit I will explain (what I remember) what I did tomorrow. Don't forget it. I formated the USB as FAT32 in my iMac I downloaded the firmware version firmware-9.1.0-amd64-netinst.iso Then I did sudo cp firmware-9.1.0-amd64-netinst.iso /dev/disk1

Re: (solved) how to roll back to jessie

2017-09-04 Thread Fungi4All
> From: longwi...@yahoo.com > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org >>On Mon, 9/4/17, Felix Miata wrote: > >> Wheezy support is scheduled to terminate less than 9 months from today. >> Maybe now is a good time to consider at least Jessie if not Stretch, since >> you"re >> installing fresh. > >> Thank

Re: network trouble on stretch

2017-09-04 Thread Fungi4All
> From: mrma...@earthlink.net > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > > Erik Christiansen composed on 2017-09-04 18:06 (UTC+1000): > >> But Fungi4All"s solution is so easy to use that I"m won over, and >> have implemented it here. > > I think I started putting net.ifnames=0 on the kernel command line

Re: network trouble on stretch

2017-09-04 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 04.09.17 04:42, Felix Miata wrote: > Erik Christiansen composed on 2017-09-04 18:06 (UTC+1000): > > > But Fungi4All's solution is so easy to use that I'm won over, and > > have implemented it here. > > I think I started putting net.ifnames=0 on the kernel command line close to 3 > years ago.

Re: network trouble on stretch

2017-09-04 Thread Felix Miata
Erik Christiansen composed on 2017-09-04 18:06 (UTC+1000): > But Fungi4All's solution is so easy to use that I'm won over, and > have implemented it here. I think I started putting net.ifnames=0 on the kernel command line close to 3 years ago. :-) More than that it's been around:

Re: Laptop recommendation

2017-09-04 Thread Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희, 黃炳熙)
In Article <20170903133817.hppdseouwbc3kvjk@grond>, Jonas Hedman writes: > Hello I hope that is not OT for this list. > > Basically I'm on the hunt for a newish laptop on which I naturally want > to run Debian. I'm a student and I spend most of my daily outandabout > computer time reading pdfs,

Re: network trouble on stretch

2017-09-04 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 03.09.17 20:09, Glenn English wrote: > I looked on the 'Net, asking why the interface names were changed. I > found a good reason: sometimes the ethn names aren't reliably > consistent. Fine, I say, you've figured how to make them consistent. > That's no reason to change the names from a meaning

Re: (solved) how to roll back to jessie

2017-09-04 Thread Long Wind
On Mon, 9/4/17, Felix Miata wrote: Wheezy support is scheduled to terminate less than 9 months from today. Maybe now is a good time to consider at least Jessie if not Stretch, since you're installing fresh. -- "The wise are known for their